cragswfc Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 new version available post #3 satorox from here http://www.fmpassion.com/index.php?/topic/5629-4-2-2-2-il-devasto/page__pid__147776__st__20#entry147776 2012 versionof "il Devasto" has a few significant changes compared to version 2011. The first concerns the direction of the passing set to "bothsides" to exploit fully the contribution of the two wingers that, unlike past version, will have more CCC but they make so many assists also: http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6596/reloadm.jpg http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8370/screenshot012em.jpg http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4296/screenshot019te.jpg http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4980/screenshot020ng.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4040/screenshot021w.jpg The second change, however, concerns the way in which the two strikers are set in order not to have a singlescorer from which to depend on the fortunes of the team but to put them both in a position to score: http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1661/screenshot015er.jpg http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5746/screenshot017r.jpg http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/5098/screenshot016v.jpg he third change concerns the free kicks,corner kicks in particular are set to send in goals the dcr: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 PLAYERS: (IMPORTANT: pace, stamina, passing, acceleration, ball control, technique are essential skills for all the role, especially for centrals defenders, wings and right striker. Also, as per my tactics, that is always said to avoid players who among the "preferred shares" the shot from distance , CR7 is an exception ) -GK: the best you can find. I suggest you give strong consideration to the following values: one on one, position, concentration. -FB: a) meduim-low reputation teams: I suggest you put aside the typical values of the "Brazilian" full back to give space to the substance. It means you should focus on defensive qualities like marking, contrast, position, without the ball and concentration. and not on offensive skills like cross, technique, passing, dribbling. b) medium-high reputation teams:In this case, I suggest you to take into consideration those fb that, as values, have a right mix of defensive and offensive skills. -CB: The best you can buy. Moreover, the right central defender must be high and good in the air (at least 16) . -MC: a) meduim-low reputation teams: you should focus on Marking (at least 12), determination, contrasts (at least 13), passing (at least 15), without the ball are the skills you need to consider. In short, forget the fantasy, dribbling and forget tc. b) medium-high reputation teams: is the same as above, except that in "contrast", one of the two can have a little bit less than 13. -WINGERS: acceleration, pace (at least 14), steps (at least 13), cross (at least 13), finishing (at least 12), technique, ballcontrol, dribbling, fantasy, without the ball and team play. In this role, you can also adjust the TC but they have all the appropriate values in the "quality" that I wrote. (Pastore, in the last edition, became the best winger right of the game) -RIGHT STRIKER: pace (at least 15), finalization, composure, intuition, without the ball, dribbling, technique. -LEFT STRIKER: may be a little slower than the right, but must have at least 13/14 in passing. Consider, for the rest, the str skills. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HINTS & TIPS: -Pitch dimension: MAX -O.i.: NO -Pre-match training: ASSISTANT MANAGER -Pre season friendly match: ASSISTANT MANAGER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOWNLOADS: In this thread I enclose two versions of the tactic. The first is the "continuum" of the old "il devasto" and the second is a more defensive tactic based on a ball rotation. 1) 4-2-2-2 _il devasto_ RELOAD (Tottenham, Mag 2012).tac ("il devasto" Reload) 2) 4-2-2-2 _il devasto_ V.D. (Tottenham, Mag 2012).tac ("il devasto" Defensive Version) i've created a new better version of this tactic and, this new version, is an evolution of the original devasto ("il devasto" fm2011):specific hints & tips: -you have to select the option "counterattack" -MATCH PREPARATION(important): worklod high; additional focus area: no specific area this is the link ( "il devasto" Foggia ver.): http://www.mediafire.com/?sx6i1616sspprpi [/font][/color]HINTS & TIPS(new "il devasto" foggia ver.): pitch dimension: max -opponents instructions: no -match preparation(IMPORTANT): A) worklod: high B) additional focus area: no specific area -Pre season friendly matches: assistant manager -you have to select the option "counterattack" from tactics menu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW DOWNLOAD: "il devasto" FOGGIA VER. (best version in my opinion): 4-2-4 Il devasto foggia (Foggia, Lug 2012).tac ("il devasto" Foggia ver.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 No way. Didn't think he would release a 2012 version. If this tactic is half as good as last years version, i am definitely going to fall in love with fm again. One question: Is the "continuum" tactic a new/tweaked tactic? or is it jst the old one from last year, i didnt really get that part? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 No way. Didn't think he would release a 2012 version. If this tactic is half as good as last years version, i am definitely going to fall in love with fm again.One question: Is the "continuum" tactic a new/tweaked tactic? or is it jst the old one from last year, i didnt really get that part? i think its a major tweaked one. he very hard to get hold off lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyneutron Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Nice one, although it could be hard to find good cb's in the Dutch Lower Divisions with good ball contol and technique skills but i'll give it a try later on, throw some darts now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Gonna give it a try with Malaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMisBAD2010 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 by the way when i mention this im not accusing im just saying but 2) 4-2-2-2 _il devasto_ V.D. (Tottenham, Mag 2012).tac ("il devasto" Defensive Version) is pretty much identical to mr houghs tactics lol mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 anybody tried this 2012 version of devasto? for me the best tactic i tried on fm 2012 so far is Tackiller FM2012, works with latest patch, very good tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimmeeke Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Tackiller is way to attacking, had games like 4-5 etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth250480 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 probably a stupid question considering its in the title but do we need to untick use target man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 probably a stupid question considering its in the title but do we need to untick use target man? yes theats why he put it in the title as last yr people dint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FH75 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I prefer by the far the old one than this 2012 version. Combination of the clean 11.3 and the 10 notches version........best tactic so far still for fm2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have tested almost all tactics that have been rated high for FM12 without dominating the game. I did use 4-2-2-2 ''il Devasto for some time on FM11 and i have made a tweaked one for FM12. This tweaks is things i have read up and learned from all posts made around this tactic and i think i have combined them good. And for me this one have been brilliant, it is brilliant anyway, but i think the small tweaks i did have been done major impact. Iam just done with my third season with my Liverpool and i ONLY lost 1 match. I won Fa-Cup final 8-0 over Everton, I won League Cup over Sunderland and CL final over Real Madrid 6-2 League table I have a good squad and have used all the transfer money i had, but Man City used almost 500 mill more and they didnt dominate that much. If someone are interrested in my tweaked one. let me know. Sorry for my bad english (from Norway ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MfcChris Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is it my screen not updating or are this and Mr Hough Swarm the same tactic in every single way and notch on team instructions and formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 If so, then Mr Hough have a problem, cuz 4-2-2-2 ''il Devasto was made for FM11 and is still the same. I hope not, because its not kind to take credit for a tactic that someone else did made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have tested almost all tactics that have been rated high for FM12 without dominating the game.I did use 4-2-2-2 ''il Devasto for some time on FM11 and i have made a tweaked one for FM12. This tweaks is things i have read up and learned from all posts made around this tactic and i think i have combined them good. And for me this one have been brilliant, it is brilliant anyway, but i think the small tweaks i did have been done major impact. Iam just done with my third season with my Liverpool and i ONLY lost 1 match. I won Fa-Cup final 8-0 over Everton, I won League Cup over Sunderland and CL final over Real Madrid 6-2 League table I have a good squad and have used all the transfer money i had, but Man City used almost 500 mill more and they didnt dominate that much. If someone are interrested in my tweaked one. let me know. Sorry for my bad english (from Norway ) yeah put it up please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 http://filefactory.com/file/cfe5292/n/4-2-2-2_il_devasto_thespios_(tweak_v12.0.4)_(Liverpool,_Okt_2014).tac http://www.gamefront.com/files/20978092/4-2-2-2+il+devasto_thespios+%28tweak+v12.0.4%29+%28Liverpool%2C+Okt+2014%29.tac Examples of matches with my tweaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stjúlli Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 You wouldn't mind uploading, would you dear? Because that looks good. Sure does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have alrdy upload it, its in same post as my screenshots. But here is it again http://www.gamefront.com/files/20978092/4-2-2-2+il+devasto_thespios+%28tweak+v12.0.4%29+%28Liverpool%2C+Okt+2014%29.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jophilo Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I have alrdy upload it, its in same post as my screenshots. But here is it again http://www.gamefront.com/files/20978092/4-2-2-2+il+devasto_thespios+%28tweak+v12.0.4%29+%28Liverpool%2C+Okt+2014%29.tac Can you put a screen of your team please ? I mean the tactical formation, want to see who is playing where. Thx. oh, what is "contrasti" or contrast ? Does this mean tackle ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Here is a screenshot of my Liverpool team, this is season 2014/15. Direct link:http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u142/Kenthuno1/FM%2012/LiverpoolTaktikk_Oversikt.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jophilo Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thx a lot. And by the way, do you know what does contrasti (or contrast ) mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 http://filefactory.com/file/cfe5292/n/4-2-2-2_il_devasto_thespios_(tweak_v12.0.4)_(Liverpool,_Okt_2014).tachttp://www.gamefront.com/files/20978092/4-2-2-2+il+devasto_thespios+%28tweak+v12.0.4%29+%28Liverpool%2C+Okt+2014%29.tac Examples of matches with my tweaks. you say example of your tweaks could you explain what you done? and dont you tink you getting results like that because of your team #justsaying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I have made some change of mentality of right striker, midfield players, passing, creativ freedom, and some minor changes with those 4 i defence. but if they have made a major different in how the team play i cant say. but overal i think the balance is better. i might start a new game where i start using the tweak version from scratch, then i will see how it works without a team who should be dominating anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Anyway, have any of you tryed it and how do it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 no mate ant had chance to play fm in abit i hope to do some this weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 i thats crap, i hope you get your chance this weekend. iam working on making a 3-2-2-1-2 tactic for fm12, i had sucsess in fm08, fm09 with this kind of tactic, but it didnt work at all on fm10. but that will be sometime in the future! not atm PM me with your steam ID, if you want. share tips would be awsome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuGCuG Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Thespios ur il devasto tweaked version rocks with newcastle i scored 34 goals conceded 11 goals won all of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 look at this My season is over ,...... look and judge yourself most goals, most assists, most of the best average in all, these tactics again very pic's Games : Table : Players Stats Mijn seizoen is ten einde,......Kijk en oordeel zelfMeeste doelpunten, meeste assists, meeste beste gemiddelde, in alles is deze tactiek weer super Wedstrijden] Stand] Statistieken] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Wow, what version of the tactic is that? look at this My season is over ,...... look and judge yourself most goals, most assists, most of the best average in all, these tactics again very pic's Games : Table : Players Stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Thespios ur il devasto tweaked version rocks with newcastle i scored 34 goals conceded 11 goals won all of them Cool CuGCuG, glad to hear that! if you find any tweaks that helps, let me know =) If you could, post me some screenshots. With your Newcastle, first season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko44 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I have tested almost all tactics that have been rated high for FM12 without dominating the game.I did use 4-2-2-2 ''il Devasto for some time on FM11 and i have made a tweaked one for FM12. This tweaks is things i have read up and learned from all posts made around this tactic and i think i have combined them good. And for me this one have been brilliant, it is brilliant anyway, but i think the small tweaks i did have been done major impact. Iam just done with my third season with my Liverpool and i ONLY lost 1 match. I won Fa-Cup final 8-0 over Everton, I won League Cup over Sunderland and CL final over Real Madrid 6-2 League table I have a good squad and have used all the transfer money i had, but Man City used almost 500 mill more and they didnt dominate that much. If someone are interrested in my tweaked one. let me know. Sorry for my bad english (from Norway ) Hi Mate, What kind of match prep do you use? THX! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Wow, what version of the tactic is that? reload mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb1986.hr Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I downloaded tactic from Thespios,it is the best one around.Aloso playing with Newcastle,look at the screens! http://imageshack.us/f/534/englishpremierdivisiono.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/f/851/newcastleunitedtacticso.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/f/189/newcastleunitedfixtures.jpg/ It is a fantastic tactic,THANK YOU! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko44 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I have tested almost all tactics that have been rated high for FM12 without dominating the game.I did use 4-2-2-2 ''il Devasto for some time on FM11 and i have made a tweaked one for FM12. This tweaks is things i have read up and learned from all posts made around this tactic and i think i have combined them good. And for me this one have been brilliant, it is brilliant anyway, but i think the small tweaks i did have been done major impact. Iam just done with my third season with my Liverpool and i ONLY lost 1 match. I won Fa-Cup final 8-0 over Everton, I won League Cup over Sunderland and CL final over Real Madrid 6-2 League table I have a good squad and have used all the transfer money i had, but Man City used almost 500 mill more and they didnt dominate that much. If someone are interrested in my tweaked one. let me know. Sorry for my bad english (from Norway ) Hi Mate, What kind of match prep do you use? THX! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Thespios, You are from norway, I saw your tactic screen. I look at your match preparation Use Google translate You MP is: Average and Attacking movement? thanks, I give it a try, I already use devasto 10 notches (fm11) for fm12, I had a lot of succes with it. Update: I play with a average team from Holland Play against Rapid Wien Away in Euro CUP WON WITH 8-2 !!! WIN 4-3 Away WIN 6-3 Away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Hi Mate,What kind of match prep do you use? THX! Average and Attacking movement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I downloaded tactic from Thespios,it is the best one around.Aloso playing with Newcastle,look at the screens!http://imageshack.us/f/534/englishpremierdivisiono.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/f/851/newcastleunitedtacticso.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/f/189/newcastleunitedfixtures.jpg/ It is a fantastic tactic,THANK YOU! Glad to hear.. i have had some problems atm, but i guess my team just have abit moral problems.. have played 2-3 draws last 6 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Thespios, your tac is amazing Just finished 1st with a average team from holland thanks man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 ^ Wijnard did you find thespios' version to be better than the the fm12 original version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Thespios, your tac is amazingJust finished 1st with a average team from holland thanks man Nice! good job.. i working on my 4th season with LFC, but have some problems.. i guess moral is the problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 ^ Wijnard did you find thespios' version to be better than the the fm12 original version? Thepios is the best so far..... ... Maybe give a try with VODU tactic.... but i'm not sure, cause I win a lot with the Thepios tac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The best out there.... Start season 11 with FC Dordrecht Season 10 for the first time finished 1st in the league (with the Thepios tac) Look at the screen start season 11 T = Home U = Away Look at the results against Man Utd (CL winners in season 10) Thanks Thepios Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 ah nice mate. I still can't decide which i prefer between the devasto variations, tackiller and that tombstone tactic you posted ( though it has lost its umph a little since the updated hotfix) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 @ jimmy, im liverpool and my mate is man scum lol who i know you love, he wooped my ass and won the league cup, league and champions league, with the il devesto reload, amazing thing tho was the champs league semis against Barce, he got destroyed 5-1 away, but he got the greatest result ever at home 6-0, it was amazing to watch and even i was excited for him, that result alone seals it for me, so if thespis version is better then wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Maybe I gonna test (thepios tac) it with a High level team (like Man Utd or Barcelona) Let you know the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolph11 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I've had a lot of success with thepios tactic, my most successful tactic on here. A couple of questions to anybody using it:- Do you use OI's? Pitch Size? Match Prep? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I've had a lot of success with thepios tactic, my most successful tactic on here. A couple of questions to anybody using it:-Do you use OI's? Pitch Size? Match Prep? no OI Max pitch size Average and Attacking movement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibasta18 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 no OIMax pitch size Average and Attacking movement this is what satorax said of match prep: calima ... sets the reload as a primary tactic and try to set the game on pre workout: -Workload: medium -Area of attention: defensive movements tell you one thing, time 3 weeks and assist them to DEVASTATION and:I started in mid-September, up until then was set to "movements of the team." I noticed that, first of all accept so few goals, and almost all are shots from distance and then I noticed (and this can not explain it) the better team attacks and the movement is more fluid testing and it worksssss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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