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Takeover at Glentoran is complete, no tycoons but there is a Nigerian consortium.

Looks like there has been a liitle bit of investment, with a £10m rise in the value of the club and improvements to the training facilities. It should be interesting to see if they make any big moves in the next transfer window.

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Bourneview Young Men - Carling Premiership - 2067/68

Last season we won back our Champions League title that we had previously lost, this season we looked to retain it.

League Table

We improved, but so did Tobermore as they start to look like genuine title contenders.

Domestic Cups - a clean sweep.

UEFA Super Cup - a narrow, but deserved win.

FIFA Club World Cup - a convincing win.

UEFA Champions League - we were storming it until we met the fast rising Tobermore United. We should have won the first leg, but didn't. They made us look ordinary in the second leg.

Glentoran in Europe - at least they qualified, but this was another poor season in Europe from Glentoran.

Linfield in Europe - they struggled for goals in the group stage but made a decent run in the Europa League.

Tobermore in Europe - just amazing, as they beat Real Madrid in the final. I attended the match and cheered them on as if we had won it.

Newry in Europe - unlucky in the qualifiers, but they had a great run in the Europa League.

Squad - the squad is a bit shaky after the recent changes, so there might be more work to be done.

Transfers - not a lot of action after last season.

Premiership Transfers - not a lot of big spending about.

Key Player Profiles:

Marcus Bickerstaff - he's now scored 925 club goals, 1030 including internationals.

Kamil Moreau - he's still doing well.

Samuel Fernández - a great year for the young winger.

Craig Ricketts - the World class Canadian.

Pat Daws - the new hope.

Career Overview

Season    League                   Position    Achievements
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2012/13   Championship Two         1st         Championship Two, Mid-Ulster and Intermediate Cup winners
2013/14   Championship One         1st         Championship One, Mid-Ulster and Irish Cup winners
2014/15   Carling Premiership      2nd         Irish Cup winners
2015/16   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster and Setanta Cup winners
2016/17   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2017/18   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League and Setanta Cup winners
2018/19   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish, League and Setanta Cup winners
2019/20   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish, Mid-Ulster and Setanta Cup winners
2020/21   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish, Mid-Ulster and League Cup winners
2021/22   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2022/23   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2023/24   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2024/25   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish and Setanta Cup winners, Europa League finalists
2025/26   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2026/27   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2027/28   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2028/29   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2029/30   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2030/31   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2031/32   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2032/33   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2033/34   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2034/35   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2035/36   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners, Champions League finalists
2036/37   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Europa League winners
2037/38   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2038/39   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2039/40   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2040/41   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2041/42   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2042/43   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2043/44   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, CWC and Champions League winners
2044/45   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2045/46   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, and Champions League winners
2046/47   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League Cup and CWC winners
2047/48   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2048/49   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2049/50   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2050/51   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2051/52   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2052/53   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2053/54   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2054/55   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2055/56   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, NextGen, Mid-Ulster,  Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2056/57   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2057/58   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, Setanta Cup and CWC winners, Champions League finalists
2058/59   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership,  Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2059/60   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership,  Mid-Ulster, League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2060/61   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership,  Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2061/62   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2062/63   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2063/64   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2064/65   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2065/66   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2066/67   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2067/68   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners

Next Season

We lost the Champions League, but it felt like we had won it.

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Wow, what a result for Tobermore! That ought to help with the coefficients I imagine.

With us losing in the semis I don't think it will make a difference, but the runs in the Europa league might make up for the losses elsewhere. It will be interesting to see.

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How havn't Tobermore got a larger stadium? 1,000 in a Champions League semi final is god awful poor :D

Despite their tycoon owners they have been stupidly slow into moving into a new ground.

They are due to move into the 6250 capacity Stark Stadium :mad:

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Another fantastic season!

It's strange that Tobermore are still not a real threat for you in the league.

They have been getting closer every year, so hopefully one day they will mount a title challenge. It would be great to have to take the league seriously again :D

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Reputation and Coefficients

Carling Premiership - 4th in European competitions (4 stars, up half a star) - up 2

Northern Ireland - 4th in UEFA coefficients - no change

Northern Ireland - 12th in FIFA rankings - up 18

Bourneview - 1st in UEFA coefficients - no change

Glentoran - 44th in UEFA coefficients - down 5

Linfield - 15th in UEFA coefficients - up 7

Newry - 26th in UEFA coefficients - up 5

Tobermore United - 3rd in UEFA coefficients - up 2

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They should already be established enough to continue on themselves.

Edit: Daf, is it possible that you have 52.000 posts on this board?!?!?!?! Never noticed it before.

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You'll overflow back to 0 soon I think! I assume they're stored as double integers, for which there are only 55,625 (IIRC) values. Being a lurker in LLM I've noticed that happened to iajafer.

That doesn't happen :D

There is someone with 117k posts, and I think iajafer asked for a reset.

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They should already be established enough to continue on themselves.

I'm not convinced. Both clubs have wage bills similar to ours which we are able to maintain by selling players for good prices. Since the prize/TV money in NI is tiny, they are going to have to cut back quite a bit to keep going.

I think Tobermore could be in trouble soon, they have a £76m loan and have just built a tiny new stadium.

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Hi Dafuge,

Absolutely brilliant stuff (had to sign up to reply to this, but have been reading for months)

Just a quick question really, do regens get younger as the game goes on because as I understand it you don't use any editors but would Pat Daws and Marcus Bickerstaff have not been 12 when they joined Manchester Utd and Bourneview respectively?

Regards.

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Normally they take into account the years when they joined their respective academies.Normally the youngsters coming through on the youth candidate days could have been at the club 3 or 4 years by the time they reach the candidate days.

Also Dafuge,your career has been epic and it is brilliant to see the massive improvement in Northern Irish football.Also a late congrats to Bickerstaff for passing 1000 goals :D

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Do you find yourself wishing to use Bickerstaff less now considering his waning talents daf?

I can't wait to drop him and bring through another star striker, but he's still scoring more than a goal a game so it's quite tough to leave him out.

He's 31 so I think he's still got another couple of good seasons in him yet before I start dropping him.

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(Long integers wrap at 65536, doubles are maaaaasive.)

Amazing, last time I posted I don't think anyone else in N. Ireland was doing well in Europe, now Tobermore are the World Champions, hopefully some other teams can start pushing for an all N. Ireland Semi Final ;)

Great work Daf.

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also i just found this :D

N Ireland soccer personality, George Best, on his arrival at Belfast International Airport, to make a guest appearance for Tobermore United FC, a local intermediate club in their cup final match against ______. It was the only occasion when Best played competitively for a N Ireland club side

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Hi , would you post up some of Tobermore's best players or a player or two from some of the other good team in Northern Ireland please? Will be interesting to compare them to your guys!

Greg Benton - top league scorer last season

Ahmad Mirzaei - probably the best player outside of Bourneview (ex Bourneview)

Thomas Franzen - highest paid player in the league

Nick Schouten - top player at Linfield

Ebenezer Hagan - top player at Glentoran

Valery Ryzhov - top player at Newry (ex Bourneview)

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Great topic! Are there awards for a place in the league? And if, along with the success of these awards were growing?

(sorry, translator :p)

The prize money has grown (£570000 for winning the league now, £50000 at the start), but it is still a long way behind the bigger leagues.

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Bourneview Young Men - Carling Premiership - 2068/69

Last season made history as the second club from Northern Ireland won the Champions League, but with the two tycoon owners walking away the future progress of the league is in doubt.

League Table

The lack of investment at Tobermore seems to have had an impact already, but at least Glentoran are on the up.

Domestic Cups - just the one loss which could be blamed on international call ups.

UEFA Champions League - we were in superb form in Europe, but we threw the final away.

Glentoran in Europe - it was a disappointing result after coming through a tough group.

Linfield in Europe - really unlucky to go out on penalties.

Tobermore in Europe - really unlucky not to make a second successive final.

Newry in Europe - they had a few good results but then fell apart in Florence.

Squad - with a small squad we suffered badly with tiredness and injuries.

Transfers - the departure of Moreau was the big story as I wanted to bring through a younger striker. It was a big mistake.

Premiership Transfers - not a lot of action from the other clubs.

Key Player Profiles:

Marcus Bickerstaff - suffered a bad injury which ended his season early.

Sandrinho - our top scorer, but he's not the sort of quality I am after from our main man.

Izudin Mehmedovic - signed as an AMC, but he might switch to a striker.

Craig Ricketts - the beast.

Michel - had a decent season.

Career Overview

Season    League                   Position    Achievements
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2012/13   Championship Two         1st         Championship Two, Mid-Ulster and Intermediate Cup winners
2013/14   Championship One         1st         Championship One, Mid-Ulster and Irish Cup winners
2014/15   Carling Premiership      2nd         Irish Cup winners
2015/16   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster and Setanta Cup winners
2016/17   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2017/18   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League and Setanta Cup winners
2018/19   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish, League and Setanta Cup winners
2019/20   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish, Mid-Ulster and Setanta Cup winners
2020/21   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Irish, Mid-Ulster and League Cup winners
2021/22   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2022/23   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2023/24   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2024/25   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish and Setanta Cup winners, Europa League finalists
2025/26   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2026/27   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2027/28   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2028/29   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2029/30   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish and Setanta Cup winners
2030/31   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2031/32   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2032/33   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2033/34   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2034/35   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2035/36   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners, Champions League finalists
2036/37   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Europa League winners
2037/38   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2038/39   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2039/40   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2040/41   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2041/42   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2042/43   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2043/44   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, CWC and Champions League winners
2044/45   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2045/46   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, and Champions League winners
2046/47   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League Cup and CWC winners
2047/48   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2048/49   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2049/50   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2050/51   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2051/52   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2052/53   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2053/54   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2054/55   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster,  League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2055/56   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, NextGen, Mid-Ulster,  Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2056/57   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2057/58   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Intermediate, Mid-Ulster, Setanta Cup and CWC winners, Champions League finalists
2058/59   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership,  Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2059/60   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership,  Mid-Ulster, League, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2060/61   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership,  Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2061/62   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2062/63   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2063/64   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2064/65   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, Irish, Setanta Cup, CWC and Champions League winners
2065/66   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2066/67   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and Champions League winners
2067/68   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League, Irish, Setanta Cup and CWC winners
2068/69   Carling Premiership      1st         Premiership, Mid-Ulster, League and Irish Cup winners, Champions League finalists

Next Season

We need to win that Champions League back in the hope of keeping the league reputation high.

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Reputation and Coefficients

Carling Premiership - 4th in European competitions (4 stars) - no change

Northern Ireland - 3rd in UEFA coefficients - up 1

Northern Ireland - 19th in FIFA rankings - down 7

Bourneview - 1st in UEFA coefficients - no change

Glentoran - 41st in UEFA coefficients - up 3

Linfield - 14th in UEFA coefficients - up 1

Newry - 27th in UEFA coefficients - down 1

Tobermore United - 2nd in UEFA coefficients - up 1

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Daf I think it would be fascinating to see a summary of the various players you've had through your youth system (that have made it) from the point they were created to the high point of their respective careers.

Any information about facilities, finances etc would also be really good.

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