dking Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 In theory you should be able to make ant formation from a preferred back 4 set up. The right MC is a DM, the two wingers can be wide forwards and left striker AMC or MC. With a classic tactic to be defensive reduce runs add TW and attacking add runs.If you have a good variation tactic post it up with results for others to try. Sorry, more silly questions - Reduce what runs? Sorry I'm completely confused at the last sentence. Whats TW? Playing as Newcastle with Enyeama in goal, Bassong, Vorsah, Ryan tailor and Jose Enrique as my back four and I've let in eight goals in three games. Not the best back five I know, but thats a lot of goals to concede! I did win two of those games but we're shipping goals at an alarming rate. Any suggestions to tighten up? I'm using the tactic in the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick A Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Tactics tested with 11.3 Squads.Min pitch size required 4222 _ Knap11.3defp100f100a26piledriverdouble _Tottenham_ Jun 2011_.tac - 0.00MB http://www.gamefront.com/files/20116088/!+Knap11.3defp100f100a26piledriverdouble+%28Tottenham%2C+Jun+2011%29.tac Uploaded with ImageShack.us I've now started using this with LFC. I have, however, made a couple of tweaks to suit a strikeforce of Suarez, Carroll and Lukaku (main 3) with support from Kuyt and Lucas (from Sao Paolo). The tweaks: 1. I've reduced the pressing of Suarez (left striker). He was getting exhausted after only about 35 mins in 1H. Since this change, he has been much better going forwards grabbing 4 goals and 2 assists in 7 games. 2. I've changed the wingers to hug touchline and cross from byeline with target man ticked. 3. I've added target man given I have Carroll and Lukaku. 4. Changed the corner routine to fit my players - swapping target man to attack far post and CB to keeper. So far, the changes have worked very well - my changes to tactics are usually disastrous! - and this is largely due to the solidness of the base tactic which so far is awesome. 7 games (4 in EURO admittedly) and I have W6, D1. F22 A4. Creating chances galore! It really is a very good tactic to watch as well. My target man has 8 of those goals (7 Lukaku as Carroll is out for 4 months). The rest are pretty well spread. 7 games in I am also fluid in every category as I used Team Blend on very high from the off. Thanks for this tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Đẹp Trai Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 knap, can you reupload 442 and 4231 to mediafire or firefont , plz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I've now started using this with LFC. I have, however, made a couple of tweaks to suit a strikeforce of Suarez, Carroll and Lukaku (main 3) with support from Kuyt and Lucas (from Sao Paolo). The tweaks:1. I've reduced the pressing of Suarez (left striker). He was getting exhausted after only about 35 mins in 1H. Since this change, he has been much better going forwards grabbing 4 goals and 2 assists in 7 games. 2. I've changed the wingers to hug touchline and cross from byeline with target man ticked. 3. I've added target man given I have Carroll and Lukaku. 4. Changed the corner routine to fit my players - swapping target man to attack far post and CB to keeper. So far, the changes have worked very well - my changes to tactics are usually disastrous! - and this is largely due to the solidness of the base tactic which so far is awesome. 7 games (4 in EURO admittedly) and I have W6, D1. F22 A4. Creating chances galore! It really is a very good tactic to watch as well. My target man has 8 of those goals (7 Lukaku as Carroll is out for 4 months). The rest are pretty well spread. 7 games in I am also fluid in every category as I used Team Blend on very high from the off. Thanks for this tactic! Can you post a link to your tweaked tactic? thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curuedhel Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Well, I started off fantastically with the original 4222 tactic, but like always, come mid-November, the team just starts playing like amateurs. Strikers who were banging in goals for fun early on in the season suddenly forget how to shoot, and when we do score they equalise almost from the next kick of the ball. I really get sick of this inevitable mid-season slump. It's so predictable (with any tactic, not just these ones) that I can almost plan it out in advance. I just don't understand why reaching the point of being fully fluid with your tactic inevitably coincides with a ridiculous drop in form. Surely that's counter-intuitive? We win 6 out of our first 7 matches, then only win 1 in the next 7 - same tactic, same players, setting realistic expectations with team talks and press confs. But the average rating drops from around 7.5 in the first 7 matches to around 6.0 in the next 7. It's just depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Well, I started off fantastically with the original 4222 tactic, but like always, come mid-November, the team just starts playing like amateurs. Strikers who were banging in goals for fun early on in the season suddenly forget how to shoot, and when we do score they equalise almost from the next kick of the ball.I really get sick of this inevitable mid-season slump. It's so predictable (with any tactic, not just these ones) that I can almost plan it out in advance. I just don't understand why reaching the point of being fully fluid with your tactic inevitably coincides with a ridiculous drop in form. Surely that's counter-intuitive? We win 6 out of our first 7 matches, then only win 1 in the next 7 - same tactic, same players, setting realistic expectations with team talks and press confs. But the average rating drops from around 7.5 in the first 7 matches to around 6.0 in the next 7. It's just depressing. SI, Im having the same problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Always like to try out the Kimz formation. ___Knap11.34231p52f52a15 _Tottenham_ Dec 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick A Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Can you post a link to your tweaked tactic?thank you! Will do somewhere. Been on holiday for the weekend, so just catching up with stuff. Will post link later today when I am at home and can get to my own computer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick A Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Incidentally, I highly recommend Lukaku to anyone playing with Knap's tactics set. He is a beast in any of the two positions, averaging a goal a game for me. He was more than a goal a game, but had the usual slump in November and didn't score for a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 TW = Time Wasting as used with a defensive set up, as below, with a change in runs and in this case a position move. ___Knap11.34231p52f52a15cnearlurkdeftw _Tottenham_ Feb 2011_.tac - 0.00MB Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Classic 4231 http://www.gamefront.com/files/20146812/4231spursattackV2P52F49A13CLASSICV1P53F51A13+%28Tottenham%2C+Sep+2010%29.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukepat Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 knap your 4321 tactic is the best tactic out at the minute!! are you a spurs fan by anychance because the tactic is setup perfectly for vdv and defoe haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukepat Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 oops i ment 4231 ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick A Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Well I have reached December and am having an awful time with the tactic. It started very very well. Whilst I am still scoring goals, I am conceding an average of 3 a game and struggling to win at all. My fullbacks are also permanently exhausted as they seem to get hammered by this tactic. It seems to me that you reach the usual magic October/November time where beforehand you are winning everything with all players ratings very high scores. Thereafter, you struggle to get a 6 out of anyone, let alone a 7! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 knap your 4321 tactic is the best tactic out at the minute!! are you a spurs fan by anychance because the tactic is setup perfectly for vdv and defoe haha What 4-2-3-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 knap, where is mine xtree formation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Without proper barrows the FM08 xtree is not really a viable tactic, but I will try a 433 with DM after I;ve incorporated a few ideas into a 442 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Looks good but would it not be better to test tactics on some weaker teams, let's say: Stoke or Birmingham? What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Without proper barrows the FM08 xtree is not really a viable tactic, but I will try a 433 with DM after I;ve incorporated a few ideas into a 442 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Did you get these results with an xtree, 433 or 442 formation??? As the defense is excellent! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Results from 442 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 the Kimz tac, looks very good, it reminds me of your amazing tac from FM08 (still playing with Salernitana with that tactic) Any infromation about the new kimz tactic you made? OI? or match preparation? pitch size? I give it a try, I also download the defensive tac, to SUS Thanks Wijnand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 All tactics atm are tested on Min Pitch Size. Never use OIs. Play around with runs on SUS but in held well against Chelsea in League Cup Final for about last 30mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Results from 442 I take it this is not a 442 tactic you have posted up yet? Will you be posting up some screenshots once you have finished the season? I hope the defense holds up Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 I tend to be a few ideas ahead of tactics that are posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Knap you use Match preparation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Ass Man does match prep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Knap With the new 442 your using now, how is Tottenham doing in the Champions League and other cups? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 I do not pay much attention to cups as one off luck on day. Its based on the Quad tactic so has the potential of Quad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Looking forward to it Knap. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Ass Man does match prep. thank you, any corner settings? Left corner right footed player, and right corner left footed player???? Best header DC on the left or on the right? Thanks Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 I don't bother setting corner takers but DCs take near and far posts. The corner settings tend to be historic from the original base tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 knap what do you do for team talks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 knap, is post 110 your Shut Up Shop tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruudvanwarren Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hi Knap, any chance of the 442 from post 117? there are so many inconsistent tactics around here and yours are the most stable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Teamtalks- 3 a game, 60 odd games a season, at least 10 seasons - The Ass Man gives all team talks at any level. The post 110 would be a type of SUS I use but depends on players on pitch at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 The 442 will be released soon, but I'm still considering options to actually try to make it as stable as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'm guessing all of your tactics are pretty much equal performance-wise, and I should just pick one which fits my players best? I'm asking because I'm having a good run of results with 4222 from opening post, but that 4231 tactic looks like it would MAYBE fit me better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 They all have to win EPL, its just really how many pts they can rack up, but luck will be involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Will be interesting to see your newest 4-4-2, I've not had that much success using a flat 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Flat 442 http://www.gamefront.com/files/20151808/___Knap11_3442QP96F95A27double__Tottenham__Jun_2011__tac Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Nice one Knap, i'm going to give this a go now. Just out of interest how did you do in the cups with this tactic? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Knap Also I will be using the player Alex, from Spartak Moscow. He is an attacking midfielder centre, where would be the best place to play him??? mcl or mcr??? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Not a great start. First game though, so my team needs time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 My first game went great Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Second result, 1 goal from a corner, one from a cross into the box. One from a simple through ball from the left back, straight through the two CB's. The 4th was on the break, Kalou got through 2 challenges and laid s simple ball off to Drogba, who from about 25 yards was free to run at goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mato Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Links doesn`t works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 dan99 You should give a new tactic a good 10 games for the team to get used to it. Also th picture you posted was from the Feyenoord game again. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 dan99You should give a new tactic a good 10 games for the team to get used to it. Also th picture you posted was from the Feyenoord game again. Steve ****, changed Yeah I know, going to give it 15-20 games before posting up more results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Knap link is not working mate. If you can re post it to mediafire that would be appreciated. Look forward to testing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 http://www.mediafire.com/?5u1rsy5u0idua6t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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