McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Strange one. I know Mileson's desire was really to take on Carlisle, but the board refuted him, so he chose Gretna. Not quite sure what the lure was there. How a town with a population of 2500 people will compete in the SPL will certainly make interesting viewing. Good luck to them though, and they seem to be going about things the right way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Thing is there's a lot of people down that way and not many big teams. A big catchment area to tempt people along if the team is competing at the top end of the SPL... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Fair point, but there's still going to be quite a low glass ceiling somewhere along the line. For a guy of his wealth and ambition, I find the situation a bit odd. Wouldn't like to see the arse fall out of the team in five years time when he decided he had bigger fish to fry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I don't know much about the guy so can't really judge his motives. But same could be said for other club's money men who, for the most part, pick one club and stick by them. Scottish league isn't a bad place to buy a small team, pay comparatively small wages, be able to rise through divisions quickly because of small investment, then quickly qualify for Europe. If he does manage that by 20010, then he can set his sights on the CL or any other Euro league that's around then. Nice wee project for a football hobby... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Gretna are still seeking planning permission for a new ground and should get it sonner rather than later. It shows what a little money can do. It wouldn't surprise me if they knocked Clyde out of the Cup and were competing for promotion in Division 1 next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Also, hearing now that the 2nd IRA karaoke video (starring Hartson on his own) has now proven to be genuine after all. I don't think Hartson is singing any of the nasty words but once again such association and tolerance of others doing so is rather disappointing. Wonder what club officials and MP's were at this 'private' function singing the 'political, folk' songs...? I'm not sure if this venue is as dodgy as the last one either... I do hear Celtic have promised to seriously investigate the first one. I suppose that's good news, but given the last time they promised to investigate something, I don't hold out much hope of any action being taken. Certainly seems as if Hartson is having a few off-the-field problems right now. Still think he's a good player and it's a pity that he seems to condone the behaviour of the minority. Players like Hartson (and Malcolm with respect to his signature of 2 years ago) should really be above this stuff and walk away if asked. Might not be easy to do so, but would set a much better example than getting caught out. The message has to be made much clearer from all clubs that this kind of moronic behaviour will not be tolerated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Frankie: I don't know much about the guy so can't really judge his motives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I don't know a hell of lot either Frankie, but it is an interesting scenario, so I'd be more than willing to listen to any Gretna fans able to fill us in. I just see the situation at somewhere like Raith where they got themselves into a terrible mess, and fans are now being forced to dip into their pockets and bail out mismanagement and over-expenditure. Now, at Gretna, it looks like they have a more stable backer, who has some affinity with the club and fans but that funding, for whatever reason, can be taken away as quickly as invested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Also, seems as if our esteemed chairman will be revealing some 'exclusive' news on Radio Clyde of all places tonight... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 And there's no truth in the rumour he's teaming up with Alex Rae to sing the political folk song 'Derry Walls' live on air... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 He could perhaps do a solo rendition of 'This Charming Man'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I've heard a few rumours this afternoon about the announcement on radio clyde tonight. Most seem a bit far fetched. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Pat Bowlen who owns the American company Invesco and the Denver Broncos is set to buy Rangers.He will build a new 76,000 all seater stadium for $401million and called it the Invesco Field. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> major new investor (possibly Coca Cola) and could mean the renaming of the stadium! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> the company behind the casio stuff is investing around 150 million in rangers, for this they will get 50 % of the club, have the rights to Ibrox stadium, and the albion car park, the stadium name will not be changed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Don't you just love rumours... I'd imagine the 2nd one is probably closest to the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 For what it's worth, I very much doubt anything of real substance will come of of this. If there were any real big announcements to be made, there would be a press conference. This will just be a bit of flim-flam to appease the masses which most of should take with a pinch of salt until we hear something concrete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted January 12, 2006 Author SI Staff Share Posted January 12, 2006 First one is a load of nonsense. Second one is realistic. Doubt the third one would happen unless they get the green light to build the casino, which I don't think has been granted to Glasgow yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I suppose any sort of investment would be good news but like Frankie says, it will probably be made to sound better than it is. Wouldn't be a huge fan of the 'Coca-cola Stadium' though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Maybe to announce Lovenkrands new four year £30,000 a week contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AndyJ: Maybe to announce Lovenkrands new four year £30,000 a week contract? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Or Inter have renewed their interest from years ago and have tabled a bid of £8 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted January 12, 2006 Author SI Staff Share Posted January 12, 2006 What time is this 'exclusive' news going to be on the radio anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 6pm apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 "we've not got the money to buy anybody in January, but keep buying the Rangers merchandise and keep thinking that we'll buy in the summer when I'll make another announcement that we need to downsize" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 "Get your Rangers calenders 2 for a pound, 2 furra pound" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Cheaper than Asda price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Any news, I can't get Clyde. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Just DJ wittering on at the moment. Might have missed Murray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Murray not been on yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Bugger all really. Just speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Just DJ saying that the paperwork for the new investment is at the lawyers. Don't think Murray is going to make an appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagi [romania kick ass] Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 New investment ? Who, and how much exactly ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Walter Mitty. 300 million lira. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagi [romania kick ass] Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Nah, no idea really mate. If Radio Clyde's idea of an exclusive was Derek Johnston phoning in to say in the vaguest possible terms that there will be 'movement soon', then I don't think they'll be winning any investigative journalism awards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagi [romania kick ass] Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Yeah . . you know what Big D.J is like though . . the slightest hint of story from Ibrox, and he totally looses the plot ! Goes stroming in, under cover, and arranges his own press confrences etc ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankJJ Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hagi [romania kick ass]: New investment ? Who, and how much exactly ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> David Murray could have posted that himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidmar Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hagi [romania kick ass]: Yeah . . you know what Big D.J is like though . . the slightest hint of story from Ibrox, and he totally looses the plot ! Goes stroming in, under cover, and arranges his own press confrences etc ! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> thats just a ploy so he can sneak into the buffet and eat it all undetected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DaveD: I've heard a few rumours this afternoon about the announcement on radio clyde tonight. Most seem a bit far fetched. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Pat Bowlen who owns the American company Invesco and the Denver Broncos is set to buy Rangers.He will build a new 76,000 all seater stadium for $401million and called it the Invesco Field. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> major new investor (possibly Coca Cola) and could mean the renaming of the stadium! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> the company behind the casio stuff is investing around 150 million in rangers, for this they will get 50 % of the club, have the rights to Ibrox stadium, and the albion car park, the stadium name will not be changed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE> If the first were true, which I doubt, then I wouldn't be happy. 2nd wouldn't bother me - I'd still call it Ibrox. 3rd seems alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Frankie: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Colin14: A big jock knew t shirt would be fb </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No it wouldn't. I'd rather you stopped embarrassing the rest of us with your daft comments. The scandal you mention is a disgrace, no doubt about it, but people raising it continually is totally pointless. As for the Soccerhell reply, well, that sums up just how amateur this 'company' are. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> The whole "Big Jock Knew" thing really gets on my tits as well. I personally think it's a disgrace the way the whole scandal was covered up to the extent it was, but child abuse shouldn't be used to score points over your fiercest rivals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Agreed GF. I remember having a big argument on the old FF board with some so-called high profile guys on there. I think most that post such crap are usually spotty teenagers who don't appreciate the significance of the story and the fact that, although it was covered up, most people are aware of it anyway. At that time, I got a few of the guys to admit, it wasn't constructive to use the term or to point score with it. Most eventually agreed, but unfortunately, it's still prevalent amongst many Rangers fans who don't have the gumption to realise that essentially it's a non issue which should remain in the past. None of us know the real story and as such none of us are really suitable to make judgement on Jock Stein or any other person allegedly involved in any cover up. As such, I'd prefer that Colin (and any other Rangers fan on here) didn't raise it again. It's just not relevant to any debate IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 RE: The Clyde 'Excusive'... Seems this was a wee ploy from Clyde to try and get some listeners back from the ever-so slightly better Real Radio phone in. As such, more patience required from us bears. I just hope our chairman does have something concrete for our trust not to be misplaced. For what it's worth, in this matter, I do believe him regarding this substantial investment. I'm not so sure exactly when this will happen or how much of it Eck will get to spend. I reckon the bulk of it will eradicate any outstanding debt but also feel any monies left over won't be fully utilised until the summer. What will be most interesting is if the investor will dilute DM's 91.8% shareholding and have a say in the running of the club. This investment,a long with the proposed ShareSave scheme from the headcases at the RST, means hopefully the disappointments on the park this season will hopefully be replaced with encouragement for a fresh start in various areas for next term. Starting with the appointment of a new, quality manager in late May,/early June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted January 13, 2006 Author SI Staff Share Posted January 13, 2006 Do you think this 'investment' is going to happen once the transfer window is closed so there is no pressure to release funds to McLeish as Murray knows that a new person is coming in at the end of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ter: Do you think this 'investment' is going to happen once the transfer window is closed so there is no pressure to release funds to McLeish as Murray knows that a new person is coming in at the end of the season? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I honestly don't know mate. We can look at the investment in several ways. 1. Eck receives all the money as he's staying long term. 2. Eck receives some money to allow us to challenge for 2nd place but not enough to suggest he's involved in the long term planing. 3. Eck receives some money to spend under the guidance of a 3rd party with the rest to be spent later when the 3rd part actually takes over. I hope it's number 3 but we'll just have to wait and see. One thing we can't afford to do is take our eye of the ball. We have a CL place to clinch from 3 decent other teams. We shouldn't take their challenge lightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The financial incentives are there obviously (amongst other things), but if someone new is to be entering the fray in the summer, Champions League football might be an unneccesary distraction, for a year at least. Sorting out our domestic form is priority. I'm not sure Celtic would be where they are in the league at the moment if they'd had five group games to go through as well. 3rd spot seems a more realistic goal anyway now. We've shown improvement in the last couple of weeks but not enough to suggest we'll catch Hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted January 13, 2006 Author SI Staff Share Posted January 13, 2006 I don't really think the Champions League has had much of an effect on our league performances. We've been dire in the league and in Europe bar a battling performance at home to Porto and two games against Inter. We were awful away to Porto and the away game against Artmedia. At home to Artmedia we just couldn't score. That said, we're in the last 16 and have two games against Villarreal to look forward to and it would be nice if we could get one or two more players in before then. The priority has to be getting into the Champions League next season. We aren't going to win it this year so we must at least get 2nd place. Although maybe a wee UEFA Cup campaign with a new manager and less pressure would be a good thing football wise, but not for the money men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Not making excuses. Just think it's an added pressure a new guy doesn't need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudge Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 i thought the David Murray T-shirt was harmless tbh some people take things too seriously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gudge: i thought the David Murray T-shirt was harmless tbh some people take things too seriously </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Each to their own, but IMO it wasn't harmless but tasteless and unnecessary. Obviously plenty more people felt the same way as it's now been removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by McD: I'm not sure Celtic would be where they are in the league at the moment if they'd had five group games to go through as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> quite possibly with the the team we have at the moment, but we have done the whole CL groups and got to the latter stages of a european tournament with arguably a better league record (long way to go i know). Indeed we won nothing which, as you'll know has been forceably rammed down our throats for the last few years, so you'll get no sympathy from this side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The Celtic team of 2-3 years ago was a better side than the current Rangers or Celtic side though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Frankie, did you ever get a reply to that letter? The one you sent after it was announced that Mcleish would be staying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Prso back in Gers frame Rangers striker Dado Prso returns to the squad for the trip to Motherwell on Sunday. The Croatia international has not played since the defeat at Celtic on November 19. Midfielder Brahim Hemdani and defender Alan Hutton both return after injury but Fernando Ricksen is still sidelined with a stomach muscle problem. Rangers (from): Waterreus, Murray, Lowing, Andrews, Kyrgiakos, Smith, Novo, Malcolm, A Rae, Ferguson, Burke, Boyd, Lovenkrands, McCormack, Klos, Buffel, Prso, Hemdani, Hutton. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Good to see a few players coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted January 13, 2006 Author SI Staff Share Posted January 13, 2006 I'd go with... Klos Hutton Smith Kyrgiakos Andrews Ferguson Murray Burke Buffel Lovenkrands Boyd I reckon he'll play The Mullet and Novo though, but I can't see how we can fit Lovenkrands, Boyd, Buffel, Burke AND Novo all into the same side... so I'd leave Nacho out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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