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The Rangers, Champions of Scotland thread: Season 05/06


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Previous Seasons

Season 04/05

Season 03/04

Transfers In

Ian Murray (Hibernian) FREE

Brahim Hemdani (Marseille) FREE

Transfers Out

Bojan Djordjic (Plymouth) FREE

Shota Arveladze (AZ Alkmaar) FREE

Fixtures

You can view the fixtures here

Champions League 3rd Qual Seedings<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Seeded teams coef. Unseeded teams coef.

------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------

Liverpool (TH) * Eng 115.864 Slavia Praha Cze 35.223

Manchester United Eng 110.864 Real Betis Esp 34.326

Internazionale Ita 101.191 FC Basel Sui 33.889

Panathinaikos Gre 70.714 Wisla Kraków Pol 32.930

Celtic ** Sco 63.477 Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 30.012

Villarreal Esp 58.326 Udinese Ita 30.191

Sporting CP Lisbon Por 55.740 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 28.200

AS Monaco Fra 53.325 Maccabi Haifa ** Isr 21.218

Ajax Ned 52.144 Everton Eng 20.864

Club Brugge Bel 50.477 Steaua Bucuresti ** Rom 20.101

Anderlecht ** Bel 47.477 Brøndby IF ** Den 19.676

Glasgow Rangers Sco 40.477 Rapid Wien ** Aut 15.209

Dinamo Kiev ** Ukr 40.200 CSKA Sofia ** Bul 15.118

Werder Bremen Ger 40.166 DVSC Debrecen ** Hun 14.389

Lokomotiv Moscow ** Rus 38.470 Trabzonspor ** Tur 12.872

Rosenborg BK Nor 36.666 VÃ¥lerengen IF ** Nor 11.666</pre>

Let the 05/06 season begin...

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Previous Seasons

Season 04/05

Season 03/04

Transfers In

Ian Murray (Hibernian) FREE

Brahim Hemdani (Marseille) FREE

Transfers Out

Bojan Djordjic (Plymouth) FREE

Shota Arveladze (AZ Alkmaar) FREE

Fixtures

You can view the fixtures here

Champions League 3rd Qual Seedings<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Seeded teams coef. Unseeded teams coef.

------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------

Liverpool (TH) * Eng 115.864 Slavia Praha Cze 35.223

Manchester United Eng 110.864 Real Betis Esp 34.326

Internazionale Ita 101.191 FC Basel Sui 33.889

Panathinaikos Gre 70.714 Wisla Kraków Pol 32.930

Celtic ** Sco 63.477 Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 30.012

Villarreal Esp 58.326 Udinese Ita 30.191

Sporting CP Lisbon Por 55.740 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 28.200

AS Monaco Fra 53.325 Maccabi Haifa ** Isr 21.218

Ajax Ned 52.144 Everton Eng 20.864

Club Brugge Bel 50.477 Steaua Bucuresti ** Rom 20.101

Anderlecht ** Bel 47.477 Brøndby IF ** Den 19.676

Glasgow Rangers Sco 40.477 Rapid Wien ** Aut 15.209

Dinamo Kiev ** Ukr 40.200 CSKA Sofia ** Bul 15.118

Werder Bremen Ger 40.166 DVSC Debrecen ** Hun 14.389

Lokomotiv Moscow ** Rus 38.470 Trabzonspor ** Tur 12.872

Rosenborg BK Nor 36.666 VÃ¥lerengen IF ** Nor 11.666</pre>

Let the 05/06 season begin...

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Defender Andre Bergdolmo has expressed his interest in a move to the Scottish champions

The 33-year-old has been given a free transfer by German side Borussia Dortmund and has turned down a move to Lillestrom in his homeland in a bid to join the 'Gers.

The Norwegian international has been quoted as saying: "Rangers have expressed a strong interest in me. I have also been told Rangers have watched me.

"I could not give Lillestrom any answer and I'm ready for another adventure abroad."

Rangers boss Alex McLeish is still hoping to sign Sotirios Kyrgiakos on a permanent deal from Panathinaikos but will turn to Bergdolmo, who can play either at left-back or centre-half if he cannot do a deal for the Greek star. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like it's the player trying to talk himself into a move tbh

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Defender Paulo Andre has rejected an £800,000 switch to the Scottish champions

Andre had a trial at Ibrox last season and did enough to convince boss Alex McLeish to make a bid.

However after leaving Guarani, the player has opted for a three-year deal with another Brazilian side Atletico Paranaense.

Agent Stephane Pounewatchy told the Scottish Daily Express: "Paulo would prefer to spend at least one more year in Brazilian football.

"He felt he needs to gain more experience before moving to another country." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pleased about that one, he didn't seem to be that great a player from what I read about him.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

Seaspm 03/04? icon_biggrin.gif

Hopefully you lot can get through into the group stages of the CL and get drawn with us again, twas a laugh when you lot came to OT icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

we'd probably do better this time, dont have players like Ostenstadt and Capucho playing icon_cool.gif also, mon the "Champions Of Scotland" in the thread, they did it last year icon_wink.gif

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just had a look at the "links" to the older season threads, last year's had 40 pages, whereas the year before had only 9 icon_redface.gif dunno if it's due to the fact that we had more to speak about, or we won the title icon_wink.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

do rangers have much to spend this summer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Think we may have a little to spend but not much.

We don't need to bring in many players anyway, just mainly a centre back, a left mid and maybe a left back.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TM:

just had a look at the "links" to the older season threads, last year's had 40 pages, whereas the year before had only 9 icon_redface.gif dunno if it's due to the fact that we had more to speak about, or we won the title icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The season 03/04 thread was started in April though icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ter:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TM:

just had a look at the "links" to the older season threads, last year's had 40 pages, whereas the year before had only 9 icon_redface.gif dunno if it's due to the fact that we had more to speak about, or we won the title icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The season 03/04 thread was started in April though icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

aha I never noticed that icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

do rangers have much to spend this summer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We'll only spend if we qualify for the CL and/or get some money in for our dead wood...

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Good to see the new thread, and rightly named Champions as we are after all the top team in Scottish football. I think the Tic one could do with a fresh start a new name possibly with also-rans in it icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Colin14:

looking forward to another scott mc donald double on the opening day, that and a good win at ibrox against the mhanks and we could be 6 points clear straight away. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GingerFurball:

Once again we've been screwed over by the SPL with fixtures - the game at Aberdeen will be the 6th time in the last 8 games between the sides at Pittodrie. Should Aberdeen fail to make the split, we'll only have played Aberdeen at home 3 times out of the last 10. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrankJJ:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GingerFurball:

Once again we've been screwed over by the SPL with fixtures - the game at Aberdeen will be the 6th time in the last 8 games between the sides at Pittodrie. Should Aberdeen fail to make the split, we'll only have played Aberdeen at home 3 times out of the last 10. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Paranoia icon15.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not paranoia, just stating facts. Regardless of who you support, the above situation isn't right.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">do rangers have much to spend this summer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They should make some money from the Dado sale.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Neil Purvis:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">do rangers have much to spend this summer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They should make some money from the Dado sale. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dado is going nowhere. He's as loyal as a soldier.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by buffalo:

Will Buffel stay or not ; nothing new on it in a while so I suppose he will </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope he stays, he should towards the end of the season some great link up play with Dado and could be an instrumental player for us this season coming.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by buffalo:

Will Buffel stay or not ; nothing new on it in a while so I suppose he will </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope he stays, he should towards the end of the season some great link up play with Dado and could be an instrumental player for us this season coming. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Galatasaray not interested anymore?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Better hope The Gers don't get lumbered with Basel </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That the same team Hearts beat in the UEFA Cup last year?

Hopefully we'll get one of the lower seeded teams, but knowing our luck we'll get Betis icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> FOOTBALL: NOW GERS CAN NAB SOTI FOR FREE Jun 27 2005

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RANGERS could snap up Soti Kyrgiakos from Panathinaikos for nothing.

Reports from Greek magazine Sportime have claimed Rangers can make the bold move because of a complex administrative wrangle.

Rangers signed Kyrgiakos from Pana on a six-month loan deal in January for £500,000 and agreed to fork out another £1million in the summer for a further three-year contract.

There were concerns over the scan on one of the Greek defender's knees and Rangers effectively put him on probation until he proved his worth. But Pana recently accused Rangers of attempting to restructure the deal and signed the player back on another 12-month contract with a view to moving him on.

However, reports from Greece suggest the club lacked the authority to sign Kyrgiakos again because he was still a Rangers player.

Now they have been told he is officially out of contract and free to sign for any team he chooses.

It's understood Rangers are still his preferred choice - and they now hope to negotiate a deal to keep him at the club for the long term </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

taken from the daily r.etard online

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Contracts that give the right to the club to unilaterally extend the duration of a contract are very common in Greece. Soti's contract was due to expire this summer but we exercised the right to extend it by a year, so that we don't have to let him go for nothing. The first club that steps in and offers £1M will get him i reckon.

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From the Greek newspaper in the Recods article..

Picture of Soti contract

The straight translation says:

Agreement between:

Football club Rangers

And

Football club Panathinaikos

The following have been agreed to two parties:

1. Panathinaikos have temporarily agreed the transfer and registration of Sotiris Kirgiakos (the player) to Rangers for the period of 20 January 2005 until 30 June 2005 in agreement with the following articles and terms:

* The sum of 700.000 euros to be paid from the moment the players registration is accepted by the Scottish Football Assosiation and Scottish Football League.

2. During that period of time the player is to be paid by Rangers.

3. Rangers has the option in May 2005 to take the player and inform Panathinaikos by the 31st May 2005, if they have such an intention. If Rangers was to do so they will pay Panathinaikos 1.500.000 million euros and can then sign a contract with the player which will be payable(meaning paying for the player) :

*500,000 euro's to be paid by the 31st December 2005

*1.000.000 euro's to be paid by the 31st December 2006

If the player is trasfered by Rangers, Panathinaikos will be paid 10% of any amount above the sum of 2.200.000 million euros.

If the player is to sign a contract with Rangers in June 2005, Rangers will transfer a bank cheque (guarantee) for the owed sums of the third installment (1.000.000 euros).

The terms and conditions of the agreement are to remain confidential between the parties and if the player agrees with the terms and conditions and they in turn to be accepted by the Rules of Authority and the relative documents.

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That's not anything new and most of us knew that already.

But what it comes down to is that in Greece there are some regulations and contract renewls that only exist in Greek football/ sport but are not recognised abroad and what I see is Kirgiakos taking PAO to UEFA/ FIFA to win his freedom from PAO. This couldnt potentially set a precedent in Greek sporting contract.

What Greek clubs do is that they sign i.e a 3+1+1 years contract with the player. The +1 means that the club reserves the right to renew the players contract for another season without the player having the right to do anthing about it. The club can also release the player without the player getting any compensation.

PAO renewed his contract for another season and left a copy of the renewl at his family's house in the letter box with a witness present because no one was home and the gates where shut firm.

(Thanks to walnuts for this translation)

What seems certain is that this won't be solved anytime soon IMO.

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Frankie, that's exactly the case as far as i know. Those kind of contracts may not be recognised by FIFA but it's still an official document and it's absolutely valid as far as the Greek FA is concerned. I'm not sure how strong a case he'd have if he took this matter to FIFA but the truth is that so far, the player hasn't expressed any interest in engaging in a legal battle with Panathinaikos. Such a course of action would worsen an already bad relationship with the club that elevated his career and i'm sure Kyrgiakos would want to keep his options open in case he wants to make a return to Greece in the future. There're only 2-3 Greek clubs that could meet his demands and Panathinaikos is one of them. Besides, it's not like the club is demanding a ridiculously high fee to let him go. £1M is if nothing else a reasonable price. The bottom line is that Soti wanted to stay at Ibrox and Rangers could have easily put an end to the matter had they sent a fax by the 31st May, informing Panathinaikos that they wanted to sign him permanently. Now we'll just have to wait and see what happens i suppose.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Once again we've been screwed over by the SPL with fixtures - the game at Aberdeen will be the 6th time in the last 8 games between the sides at Pittodrie. Should Aberdeen fail to make the split, we'll only have played Aberdeen at home 3 times out of the last 10. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Awww didums. In case you hadn't realised every team in the league has this situation. We have two away games against Celtic this season again. See us moaning? No

F**k the Gers!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner:

Frankie you'll probably know but where the heck have all these Bellamy rumours came from?

Is it just one little guy having a joke and slowly over time more and more people have started to believe it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's mainly because of exactly that.

McLeish was interested in Bellamy at the same time as Celtic in January but is aware that we can't afford him for any longer than that.

It won't happen as Bellamy just isn't worth the £15million it would cost to get on a 4 year contract.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DandyDons1903:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Once again we've been screwed over by the SPL with fixtures - the game at Aberdeen will be the 6th time in the last 8 games between the sides at Pittodrie. Should Aberdeen fail to make the split, we'll only have played Aberdeen at home 3 times out of the last 10. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's not as if we have any trouble beating you at yer dump of a ground anyway...

F88k the Dons!

Awww didums. In case you hadn't realised every team in the league has this situation. We have two away games against Celtic this season again. See us moaning? No

F**k the Gers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner:

Frankie you'll probably know but where the heck have all these Bellamy rumours came from?

Is it just one little guy having a joke and slowly over time more and more people have started to believe it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course he knows, he is that little guy! icon_wink.gif

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i wouldnt be surprised to see novo shipped out to make a bit of cash as buffel has taken his position and forced him out wide. a loan deal for mcfadden or the permanent signing of riordan may also be on the cards in this case.

one of the priorities are replacing peter lovenkrands... the way he played after having one above average season was diabolical. a sack of spuds should do the trick - spud #26 > lovenkrands #26

personally an ambitious move for matthew etherington would appeal to me

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrankJJ:

Lovenkrands is staying apprently. icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Best news you have all day i bet icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrankJJ:

Lovenkrands is staying apprently. icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

bugger

should have sold him when newcastle wanted to give us 3 or 4 mill.

id have rather had djordjic

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