Senegal's Arsenal thread 2005/6 - A redcurranty farewell to the Home of Footballâ„¢

September 28, 2005

Aye, Gilbert is underrated.

BTW, the Oliveira who is being bandied about. Is it the Ricardo Oliveira who plays for Betis?

Olly Kenney · September 28, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rdysn5:

Aye, Gilbert is underrated.

BTW, the Oliveira who is being bandied about. Is it the Ricardo Oliveira who plays for Betis? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, that's him.

H.O.V.I · September 28, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rdysn5:

Aye, Gilbert is underrated.

BTW, the Oliveira who is being bandied about. Is it the Ricardo Oliveira who plays for Betis? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

where is this?

Mikkel Blue · September 28, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H.O.V.I:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rdysn5:

Aye, Gilbert is underrated.

BTW, the Oliveira who is being bandied about. Is it the Ricardo Oliveira who plays for Betis? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

where is this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

spain

H.O.V.I · September 28, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikkel Blue:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H.O.V.I:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rdysn5:

Aye, Gilbert is underrated.

BTW, the Oliveira who is being bandied about. Is it the Ricardo Oliveira who plays for Betis? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

where is this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

spain </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

what i mean is, is there a news story or is it just the opinions in this thread he means.

Mikkel Blue · September 28, 2005

One for Mr Retro

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The player that never comes up in voting and is unlikely to win Player of the Month but one whose performances deserve special recognition is Lauren.

Lauren is a vastly underrated part of the Arsenal machinery. A very important player that has NEVER been dropped by Wenger when available since he moved to the first team and has appeared in the Premier League Team of the Year 3 times in his 5 year English career without notice or fuss.

A lot of fans are quick to blame Lauren for defensive errors but what they don't realise is that it is exactly the same underserved blame that Ashley Cole used to get in the England's diamond formation. What I mean is, Lauren like Ashley rarely got beaten on a one-to-one situation. They were only ever exposed rather than beaten.

For England, Ashley Cole was exposed by not having cover when he moved forward. At Arsenal, Sol Campbell is good at covering for Ashley and Vieira was also very "left-minded". He covered on the left and passed the ball to the left side a lot. At Arsenal, Vieira did not cover Lauren and when Freddie made box runs, the whole right was exposed leaving only Kolo TourÃ© to move over. Lauren was always unfairly blamed for this and it detracted from his contribution to the team.

Lauren has seven great qualities.

He's a very tough competitor. Lauren doesn't smile on the pitch of make friends on it. He tackles even his former national team-mates hard. He's got the competitive streak that most Arsenal players don't have.

Lauren has bags of desire. He doesn't get intimidated and plays the same against West Brom as he does against Chelsea. He is a real winner.

Lauren is experienced. He's played 2 World Cups, won the African Nations Cup twice, played in Spain for Sevilla, Levante and Real Mallorca and Arsenal.

He is good tackling defender. He rarely gets beaten on a straight one-on-one. It's tough when he's running back and trying to defend but when players come at him his defends well. Lauren is also good at stopping players who are fast by when he is on the back foot by impeding them and stopping dangerous counter attacks. That is a very good skill. It comes from experience. He gets bookings for some but saves the team. Very few players can do this effectively, picking the right moments and making sure they don't get sent off.

Lauren's biggest contribution by far is that he takes the ball out of defense. Lauren is an ex-midfielder who is extremely good on the ball. Lauren is more of an "outlet man" to Arsenal than Ashley Cole. Campbell and TourÃ© have to rely on him a lot to take the ball out of defense safely since Arsenal don't play long balls. I counted 23 times in the Ajax game yesterday. He's positive player who can also play final passes. He is very stable under pressure.

He also has incredible energy. He is very fit and I have never seen him looking tired during a game, especially given how many times he runs that line.

Lauren never complains about Arsenal, about money, failures or threatens the club even though Real Madrid were genuinely interested in him 2 seasons ago. He is always positive about Arsenal and even gave up his international career partly to concentrate on Arsenal.

The left side of Arsenal has 3 players (Cole â€“ PÃres â€“ Henry) with Campbell and previously Vieira in support. The right side has 2 (Lauren â€“ Freddie). These two work extremely hard with a number disadvantage, sharing defensive responsibility and also creating any attacks from that side . These two deserve a lot of praise. In Fabregas's Arsenal, we have a midfielder who plays to the right and the left and Kolo TourÃ©'s cover for Lauren has improved. Hopefully it will give Arsenal fans the chance to celebrate two of their most reliable and greatest: Lauren and Ljungberg.

To Arsenal's Unsung Player of August and September: Lauren Bisan Etame-Mayer.

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Ratinho · September 28, 2005

Oliveira's name's being banded about??

* cums

Olly Kenney · September 28, 2005

The only person to have been branding about Oliveria's name has been Ratinho

Ratinho · September 28, 2005

So true. I think I knew that anyway.

Ronaldinho93 · September 28, 2005

That article is spot on really. Lauren has never ever from my knowledge complained about money or fuelled transfer speculation and you kind of forget that he is always in the team without fail

That against chelsea 2 seasons ago >>>>>>> *

Mikey G · September 28, 2005

My main gripe is he just is attracted towards the ball and gets out of position.

Ronaldinho93 · September 28, 2005

Aye thats always been my only reservation, tends to get pulled out of position

Asmodeus · September 29, 2005

Ralphie gets a lot of unfair stick.

vidoy · September 29, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> From Skysports

Cesc: I want to be legend

Arsenal's Spanish starlet Cesc Fabregas is determined to become a Gunners legend.

The 18-year-old, who made his first team debut some two years ago, has been thrust into the first team on a regular basis following the departure of Patrick Vieira.

Cesc does not want to be compared to Vieira, but would one day like to have the same legendary status amongst the Arsenal faithful.

"He is a legend here and it's very difficult to compare anyone with Patrick," said the teenager.

"I don't think there will ever be another Patrick Vieira.

"But I'm working to make my own name at Arsenal and one day I would like to be a legend at Arsenal like Patrick is now.''

Despite not replacing Vieira with a new signing, Cesc insists that Arsenal are capable of winning the UEFA Champions League.

"Arsenal can go all the way this season," he added.

"If we think we are going to go out, what's the point in playing in this kind of tournament? We're winners and we want to win everything.

"It's very different to The Premiership. In Europe last season, Liverpool did very well but in the league, they finished behind Everton and nearly didn't even qualify this time.

"I have heard a lot of people still talking about us. Every year it's the same, they say 'maybe it's going to be Arsenal's year'. But in this tournament, you never know what's going to happen.

"It's always very hard because the best teams in Europe are here. But the team is getting its confidence back and working really hard." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This guy will be a legend i have no doubt, for his age he is amazing, i think we can only imagine what we will be like in his prime!

Must be one of Arsenals/Wengers best signings.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> From Skysports:

Smith set for Foxes

Leicester City are hopeful of completing the loan capture of Ryan Smith in time for the youngster to make his debut at the weekend.

The Arsenal starlet is highly rated at Highbury but is set to move to The Foxes in order to accrue first team experience.

Smith, a talented wide man, has six senior appearances to his name in North London and will join Leicester until the end of December.

Foxes boss Craig Levein believes the move should prove to be beneficial to both parties, with The Championship club having secured the option of extending the loan spell should Smith impress.

"Ryan is a young player with bags of potential who needs first team experience,'' Levein told the club's official website.

''He is a winger who can play on either side with plenty of pace and ability and I am sure he will excite the Leicester supporters." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Should be good experience for him, would also be a chance to get to see how well he can adapt to first team football.

I hope he makes it with us i really do.

wycombe · October 3, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Henry refuses to discuss new deal

Thierry Henry has told Arsenal he will not hold talks over a new contract before the end of the season.

By then the 28-year-old Frenchman will have 12 months left on his deal - leaving Arsenal in fear he could leave the club for nothing upon its expiry.

Henry said: "I want to concentrate on football, and focus on winning trophies rather than worry about contracts.

"At the end of the season we will talk about it, I will speak to the boss but my mind is not on it at the moment."

Henry claimed he is just reiterating his thoughts from earlier in the season, but his comments will raise anxiety at Highbury.

Manager Arsene Wenger has been desperate to begin talks with Henry, who is currently sidelined with a groin injury.

But Henry added: "We will look to sort something out, but at the moment I have my injury to deal with."

Arsenal's match against West Brom on 15 October is a potential comeback date for Henry, although he remains cautious.

"I don't know if West Brom will come too early," he continued. "I'll need to talk to the boss, but that game is a possibility."

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so he wants to focus on winning trophies whilst injured rather than discus a contract :/

i get the feeling we're being strung along here.

H.O.V.I · October 3, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom: