stevio11 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Basically I was watching the Athletic Bilbao game last night on sky and they had a player who was born in Venezuela but qualifyed to play for them because his grandparents were Basque's. My question is will this be in FM 11 as it's the first time I have heard of this rule considering Athletic are very strict on this basque rule for their players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I think it should be in. Bilbao are a bit more relaxed on their rules now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Bilbao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I agree too that it should be implemented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 It already is implemented. There is or was an Argentinean player who has Pays Basque as a second nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zar Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 There are a lot of children/grandchildren of Basques immigrants who technically would qualify, the difference is that he moved back to Spain at a young age. I don't think they be as welcoming to Jonathan Urretavizcaya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Isn't the policy simply that the player must have come through the youth system at a Basque cantera, rather than a question of race/nationality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Isn't the policy simply that the player must have come through the youth system at a Basque cantera, rather than a question of race/nationality? They must have come through there or be born in the Basque area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GioGio85 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Is there a similar challenge to that with San Mariono that anyone has suceeded with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlc Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Is there a similar challenge to that with San Mariono that anyone has suceeded with? The Basque team are not FIFA recognized so don't play official matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GioGio85 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 The Basque team are not FIFA recognized so don't play official matches. lol I probably should have kown that. OK let me re-phrase that, has anyone taken on the challenge of Basque only? Seems similar to Dafuge's self set youth team only challenge with Tooting and Mitcham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Athletic can only sign Basque players anyway, you don't have a choice if you play with them. It has been done with a few other clubs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avbarira Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Yeah, for example Real Madrid striker Higuaín is Basque descent so he can play for them too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnyDonny Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Was his name Fernando Amorebieta? He is in the Athletic squad in game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 The point I am making is that this player was born outside of spain so qualifyed not though his parents but his grandparents which must now maybe open up more players to choose from when playing as Athletic Bilbao. If it's already in the game then great but is it and did he come though the youth ranks or was he signed. Sorry can not remember the name of the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zar Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Athletic wouldn't go for these foreigners. Even when they were at a low point a couple of seasons ago the names that were being linked were Spanish players who were born outside the Basque Country to Basque parents/grandparents, such as Kepa and Óscar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Yeah, for example Real Madrid striker Higuaín is Basque descent so he can play for them too. The French bit of the Basque area, to be precise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 This would simply be in the game as Argentinian with Basques as second nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 You cannot sign Higuain on FM, it will not let you bid for him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Athletic wouldn't go for these foreigners. Even when they were at a low point a couple of seasons ago the names that were being linked were Spanish players who were born outside the Basque Country to Basque parents/grandparents, such as Kepa and Óscar. Well this is true as the game was on sky saturday night and it was brought up before the game started Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zar Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Amorebieta was in born in Venezuela to Spanish parents (Basque). When he was two he returned to Spain. It is not the same situation as second, third generation Basques who immigrated to South America. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 Amorebieta was in born in Venezuela to Spanish parents (Basque). When he was two he returned to Spain. It is not the same situation as second, third generation Basques who immigrated to South America. On sky,they stated his parents were not Basques but his grandparents are thus thats why he now qualifys as Athletic have relaxed their rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoiberg Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 The rule IRL is the player must come from Athletic youth ranks. In their youth system currently are some non-basque players: nigerians, italians, portuguese and so, most of them without basque ascendancy. But they have been recruited to play for youth system, so they will be eligibles when they reach first team. An article (in spanish) about that : http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Athletic/viene/elpepudep/20080131elpepidep_8/Tes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 The rule IRL is the player must come from Athletic youth ranks. In their youth system currently are some non-basque players: nigerians, italians, portuguese and so, most of them without basque ascendancy. But they have been recruited to play for youth system, so they will be eligibles when they reach first team.An article (in spanish) about that : http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Athletic/viene/elpepudep/20080131elpepidep_8/Tes In real life I thought they signed players from other Basque clubs that have not come through the Athletic youth ranks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Isn't it "born in the Basque country or raised in Athletic's academy", not just the latter? Done some research on Higuian BTW, it turns out he was born in Brest, so is not Basque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 If you search for Basque players on FM there are not that many non-Spanish Basque players. There were 4 on a large database, all players from France gave 20 something most of which were quite poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I think the deal with Higuain is that he has already represented Argentina and so is classed as foreign. Whereas if he had not been capped he would still be eligible for Athletic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoiberg Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Yeah, I forgot, when signing a new player, yes any player basque it's ok. Even sometimes players formed at a Basque youth team setup. IRL rule it's not even clear for the Athletic supporters, and every case is studied individually to see if the player matches or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayman1 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 On FM you can sign any spanish player under 16. When they come to the club they get the basque nationality automatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm_champ99 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 so can someone please confir this for me athletico bilboa ONLY sign players who are basque?, they dont sign any other nationality, any other type of spanish player (ie catalan etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAF_85 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Isnt there another club in Europe which has exactly the same cantera policy of bilboa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Athletic can only sign Basque players anyway, you don't have a choice if you play with them. It has been done with a few other clubs too. You know which teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zar Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 The only other team I can think of is Chivas (Mexico) who have a policy of Mexican-only players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoiberg Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 so can someone please confir this for me athletico bilboa ONLY sign players who are basque?, they dont sign any other nationality, any other type of spanish player (ie catalan etc) As I said, IRL it's not so easy. They mainly sign basque players, but also accept other players as long as spent some time on their youth setup (e.g. they have Saborit who is a catalan player, who they signed when he was 15). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAF_85 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 The only other team I can think of is Chivas (Mexico) who have a policy of Mexican-only players. No, im pretty sure there is another club in Europe who has the same policy but have been less successful, it was on Eurosport not so long ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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