Rob1981 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Brilliant attitude that. They probably won't have to play, so let's just take anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm hardly saying just take anybody, its not as if he isnt already going to have a good idea of the options available to him. Normally I would like the provisional squad, I just think its a better use of time to go straight to the 23 this time. In an ideal world you would take 30 odd players and pick the ones who impress but we all know that never happens and the manager mostly already knows who he wants. Why not save everyone the time and effort and concentrate on the 23 who are going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Carlsberg done another England advert for the Euros. Pretty funny. Prefer this one to other one. Little more tongue in cheek It's absolutely awful ffs. Things like this are exactly what I hate about your national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 So now the new coaching staff are Ray Lewington as assistant. Nev as coach and this lad from Brum as a goalkeeping coach. Can’t remember his name. Along with Ray Clemence still How come Clemence manages to keep his job every time even when other goalkeeping coaches are brought in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 It's absolutely awful ffs.Things like this are exactly what I hate about your national team. Haha, you said the same thing last time. Not going to explain why? Probably right because the last advert you laughable called xenophobic and was roundly laughed off. I suspect you'll always hate England regardless of the quality of advert produced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 In an ideal world you would take 30 odd players and pick the ones who impress but we all know that never happens and the manager mostly already knows who he wants. Why not save everyone the time and effort and concentrate on the 23 who are going? The manager has mostly already spent 2 years with the players once every month or two. He isn't starting the job Monday, picking a tournament squad Wednesday. Surely even more important that we use the provisional squad this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 And that advert is pretty bad. Hard to dislike anything with Brian Blessed in it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I like that advert, patriotic with just the right amount of self-deprecating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Myself I wouldn't take 30, about 26 or 27 to suss out the fringe places in the squad and see how the dynamics work. If one or two don't fit in well with what I'm doing then it's easier to get rid. Bit of a risk picking your 23 off the bat when you haven't had the chance to see if any players you were considering but didn't pick in your 23 worked better for you than players you picked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Love the advert for the first 5 secs with Capellos portrait being removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Didn't even spot that Superb effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Neville the most sensible and honest guy in the whole England camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Love the advert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Odd that he isn't naming like 30 and then maybe meeting up with the squad before knocking it down. Not a massive deal though but you'd think he'd give himself more time but we have wasted so much time already in appointing him maybe acting quicker on the squad gives an air of control Or maybe he knows which 23 he wants anyway and he needs the friendlies not to decide on fringe players, but to instill how he wants to play to the 11-15 guys he plans on playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Very true. That's why I think naming it this early and 'getting on with it' sort of gives an air of control and planning. Why muck about getting 30 down to 23 when you could pick the 23 and start working on things, as you say. Let's face it, does he need to name 30? I am sure we could all have a pretty decent go at the England squad and get a good 18 or 19 of that 23 and that's with assumptions about how Hodge will play, etc Is there a point in picking the Ox and then dropping him when Hodge probably knows the Ox and Scott Sinclair don't have a chance of going. I don't have a problem with it tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Clearly on about Downing. http://m.skysports.com/article/football//7757181 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Tbf with that he could be talking about the lot of them! I guess they have all 'not shown' how good they are in some regard but you're right, an underhanded way to tell us 'yes, I am picking Downing .. I am the latest in a line of managers that sees something the rest of the world doesn't'. I think that's the first comment I have seen about footballing matters from Hodgson though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Downing would be such a depressing pick. Especially over someone like Ox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 You just know though ... Downing is going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorando Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Belgium selection against England: Goalkeepers: Thibaut Courtois (Atlético Madrid), Simon Mignolet (Sunderland), Jean-François Gillet (Bologna) Defense: Toby Alderweireld (Ajax), Denis Odoi (Anderlecht), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Münich), Jan Vertonghen (Ajax) en Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit Sint-Petersburg) Midfield: Guillaume Gillet (Anderlecht), Timmy Simons (Nürnberg), Radja Nainggolan (Cagliari), Steven Defour (FC Porto), Marouane Fellaini (Everton), Axel Witsel (Benfica), Nacer Chadli (Twente) en Dries Mertens (PSV), Moussa Dembele (Fulham) Strikers: Eden Hazard (Lille), Igor De Camargo (Mönchengladbach), Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea), Kevin Mirallas (Olympiakos), Christian Benteke (Genk), Jelle Vossen (Genk) en Benji De Ceulaer (Lokeren). De Bruyne (Genk/Chelsea) is injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestroik Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hart Walker-Rio-Cahill-Cole Gerrard-Parker-Milner Walcott-Carroll-Young Decent line-up for the 1st 2 games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 How has Defour done at Porto? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 HartWalker-Rio-Cahill-Cole Gerrard-Parker-Milner Walcott-Carroll-Young Decent line-up for the 1st 2 games? As good as any other but I doubt Carroll will start. Well, we don't have a clue until the Royal Hodge-ness speaketh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Wonder if Woy will reveal the squad like Sven did in 06. On a big screen and all. Or do Capello where the drop outs leaked it onto the net before the official announcement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 No doubt there will be 150 'reports' on Twitter before it comes out and most of those are wrong. I expect the Twitter reports will have either Terry or Rio missing and then hours of speculation before the announcement they're both in. Any idea what time tomorrow, it is tomorrow, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorando Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 How has Defour done at Porto? Played 12 games as a starter & 12 games as a sub. Needed more time than expected to adapt ... is ready now to become a full time starter at Porto next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hodgson meeting with Terry and Ferdinand now (seperately). It's going to be one or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If they make an issue of it, I don't see how they can take Terry over Ferdinand. You don't side with the accused. Any other walk of life Terry would be suspended on full pay until the hearing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Do wonder how this situation would be resolved if Capello was still here. Not saying he'd not of had a meeting or anything (he probably would), just can imagine it going tits up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 HartWalker-Rio-Cahill-Cole Gerrard-Parker-Milner Walcott-Carroll-Young Decent line-up for the 1st 2 games? Carroll? Would also prefer Barry and Carrick in there ahead of Milner and Gerrard. Scholes if we can get him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hom3r Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Think one of them should be, but both Barry and Carrick in the same midfield would be pretty depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I really hope we don't see Gerrard playing for England again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 HartWalker-Rio-Cahill-Cole Gerrard-Parker-Milner Walcott-Carroll-Young Decent line-up for the 1st 2 games? Ladies and Gentlemen. England will be playing Four Four ****ing Two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Three cheers for Ramirez! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Strong rumours that Walker/crouch/richards are out and carrroll,zamora and joe cole are in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 i would love joe cole to be in the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 How can Crouch be out. He's not even been in since the France friendly iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I really hope we don't see Gerrard playing for England again He only seems to be good for a few games a season these days and somehow gets away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hom3r Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 i would love joe cole to be in the squad Yeah I had forgot about him completely until today, could be an option to play behind the striker for the first 2 games maybe? Although I am purely going off other people that he has been good in France, I have no idea myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Zamora over Crouch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Neither please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'd rather have Gary Neville as right back than Phil Jones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didier Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I would have taken Richards, and probably Rio/Crouch, so not encouraging start! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 So, I assume we know about Rio, Crouch and Richards not going as they have actually received a call from Hodge and it's trickled out, no doubt from agents/media buddies but there are some journos (hello, Sam Wallace) reporting on this as though they know the squad. Erm, what time is it actually officially being announced, do we have any clue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 If Walker is injured, how can he not take Richards. And Carroll I'm not liking all this so far. Hopefuly Scholes goes, that'll make me happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 So, I assume we know about Rio, Crouch and Richards not going as they have actually received a call from Hodge and it's trickled out, no doubt from agents/media buddies but there are some journos (hello, Sam Wallace) reporting on this as though they know the squad. Erm, what time is it actually officially being announced, do we have any clue? Richards got his call from Stuart Pearce, apparently to ask if he wants to play in the Olympics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 That'd be a good conversation "hi, it's Stu, what you up to this summer" "going Euros, innit" "......" "am I not" "Just keep July open" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 So, I assume we know about Rio, Crouch and Richards not going as they have actually received a call from Hodge and it's trickled out, no doubt from agents/media buddies but there are some journos (hello, Sam Wallace) reporting on this as though they know the squad. Erm, what time is it actually officially being announced, do we have any clue? 12:45pm, apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fvg Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 12:45pm, apparently. 1 according to BBC, but hodgson will have a conference at 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 At least by 2pm then, cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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