thefinalbroadcast Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Boycs may be fb, but he keeps being obstinate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengedragon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 dear oh dear the tension whatever. its going to be sunny tomorrow, we've got to see the blond fella off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mrgrapefruits: shut up geoffrey, australia have themselves to blame for being in this position </div></BLOCKQUOTE> in the context of the series, yes. but in the context of this match alone - not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 tbf to the umpires, they have the technology to look at the light, not the commentators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreclaw Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wazup: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Henry_14: yeah \o/ "£60 for a ticket and you hope to see nothing" </div></BLOCKQUOTE> well they have seen the Auzzies crumble this morning </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah, 8 wickets fell, not exactly a bad bit of cricket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengedragon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: how can it be dangerous with two spinners on ffs </div></BLOCKQUOTE> surely if you cant see it you cant play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Basing it on when Australia went off on the first day. Coming back to haunt ya eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalbroadcast Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Hahaha @ Rudi. "What's the reading" "I can't tell you that. That's for us." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zink Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 "i can't tell you the reading". because it aint dark is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pengedragon: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: how can it be dangerous with two spinners on ffs </div></BLOCKQUOTE> surely if you cant see it you cant play </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Unfair according to umpire. Fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I can't BELIEVE some of you lot saying winning the Ashes this way would sour it ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWesthead Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Someone get the BetFair blimp to block out the sun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsl Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Working 1 till 9 tommorow so will probably miss the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pengedragon: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: how can it be dangerous with two spinners on ffs </div></BLOCKQUOTE> surely if you cant see it you cant play </div></BLOCKQUOTE> aye, but it's nowhere near dark enough for that. by general consensus from all of the commentators, the light has improved from this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 although ponting needs yet another kick up the arse for allowing mcgrath that one extra over... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yes Scatter but Rudi said that when Australia went off on the first day they took a reading. That reading is what they've used for the entire match. They give the spinners a bit more leeway but once it drops too much below that level then they offer the light. So basically because you went off on the first day, this is Australia's fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboygersh Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Well in SA in the winter we'd have gone 2-0 up had the umps not taken the South Africans off for the light and England were livid and did the sit down protest iirc. Now it's the Aussies turn to think themselves as 'robbed'. Never mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bennyboygersh: Well in SA in the winter we'd have gone 2-0 up had the umps not taken the South Africans off for the light and England were livid and did the sit down protest iirc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh... no hypocrisy here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalbroadcast Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 It seems a bit of an odd call, but I'm not there so I can't tell, tbf. They are there, we're not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengedragon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: surely if you cant see it you cant play </div></BLOCKQUOTE> aye, but it's nowhere near dark enough for that. by general consensus from all of the commentators, the light has improved from this morning. tbf only the players and umps know what its like in the middle i would like to take this opportunity (in case i forget in the excitement later/tomorrow) to give a big to scatter for showing up consistently in this thread in the face of some fairly inane comments, enjoying the banter and increasing my knowledge of the baggy greens good on ya mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: Yes Scatter but Rudi said that when Australia went off on the first day they took a reading. That reading is what they've used for the entire match. They give the spinners a bit more leeway but once it drops too much below that level then they offer the light. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> even on the tv you can tell it was clearly darker on the two occassions we took the light. i don't blame england for going off, not at all, and i don't blame them for only getting through 12 overs an hour this morning. but this is yet another poor decision from the umpires... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreclaw Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefinalbroadcast: It seems a bit of an odd call, but I'm not there so I can't tell, tbf. They are there, we're not. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Exactly, the umps are in the best position to judge. Even the commentators are not seeing it from the POV of the umps or players, so they don't know what it's EXACTLY like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesc Fabregas the Phenom Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Makes me wonder how bad the light really was this morning, when the Aussies were batting. After all, its supposed to be better now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalbroadcast Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pengedragon: i would like to take this opportunity (in case i forget in the excitement later/tomorrow) to give a big to scatter for showing up consistently in this thread in the face of some fairly inane comments, enjoying the banter and increasing my knowledge of the baggy greens good on ya mate </div></BLOCKQUOTE> same here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblets_of_fire Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 covers coming on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Aye Scatter's been great this series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalbroadcast Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 And now the covers are on \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pengedragon: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: surely if you cant see it you cant play </div></BLOCKQUOTE> aye, but it's nowhere near dark enough for that. by general consensus from all of the commentators, the light has improved from this morning. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> tbf only the players and umps know what its like in the middle i would like to take this opportunity (in case i forget in the excitement later/tomorrow) to give a big to scatter for showing up consistently in this thread in the face of some fairly inane comments, enjoying the banter and increasing my knowledge of the baggy greens good on ya mate cheers for that and yes, you are right. the players are really the only ones who can know. i've played in matches where the supporters and team mates on the sidelines have been absolutely amazed at play being stopped. it's very different out in the middle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Drizzle \o/ \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted September 11, 2005 Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2005 Athers ifffffffffffffffb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 dean jones getting his conspiracy theories out there... "just had an sms from a mate at the ground - it isn't raining, why are the covers coming on?" ooooooooohhhhhhh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Athers going down in my estimations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zvonimir Boban Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: Athers going down in my estimations </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Harper disagreeing with some who's correct, who'd have thunk it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalbroadcast Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: Athers going down in my estimations </div></BLOCKQUOTE> If Rudi's got the wording of the rules wrong, then perhaps he's right. I've not got a problem with coming off because the Aussies have come off before, but it isn't good for the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 rudi contradicting his previous (incorrect) statement from earlier in this match the batsmen can request play resume... \o/ maybe billy "i don't know the lbw rules" bowden got in his ear... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: Athers going down in my estimations </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Harper disagreeing with some who's correct, who'd have thunk it </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Says someone who thinks Bell is great for England. Cheers Mr Hindsight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItS_A_RaP Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: Athers going down in my estimations </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Being a **** isn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Its raining anyway, so they would have gone off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbler Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 What are these lot going on about now? There have been plenty of times that play has been stopped for bad light and no-one has said anything. Why should we be playing to different rules now than in the rest of the series? Everyone knows what the rules says, but it has never been applied to the letter by any umpire in my lifetime, so why yak on about the wording? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 What Athers supposedly doing wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zvonimir Boban Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: Athers going down in my estimations </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Harper disagreeing with some who's correct, who'd have thunk it </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Says someone who thinks Bell is great for England. Cheers Mr Hindsight </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Touch my hindsight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squijee Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: dean jones getting his conspiracy theories out there... "just had an sms from a mate at the ground - it isn't raining, why are the covers coming on?" ooooooooohhhhhhh... </div></BLOCKQUOTE> 'Mo' Matthews: Hey, listen in man. This is not groovy. Far out, if they can't play against spinners in these conditions, well, that's whack. AND WHY ISN'T MACGILL PLAYING?!?!? HE IS THE GREATEST BOWLER EVER TO LICK A STUMP AND HE'S NOT PLAYING? WHAT'S GOING ON? HE DROPS MY SHEET ANCHOR! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20: What Athers supposedly doing wrong? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Saying that England should still bat in bad light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zvonimir Boban Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20: What Athers supposedly doing wrong? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Said the decision to go off for bad light there was ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengedragon Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 dickie bird in the tms box \o/ he's not happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20: What Athers supposedly doing wrong? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Saying that England should still bat in bad light </div></BLOCKQUOTE> england taking the light isn;t th issue. the light being offered in the first place is. now jonesy and mo matthews are harping on about the scheduling of the tour, playing the last match so late in the summer. wasn't that supposed to be in our best interests when we arrived??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted September 11, 2005 Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2005 The rules contradict themselves: http://www.lords.org/data/files/law_3_qanda-9661.pdf <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "Unreasonable or Dangerous any reasonable person could forsee the likelihood of injury to those on the field of play" </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "obvious and foreseeable risk to the safety of any player" </div></BLOCKQUOTE> so where's the likelihood of injury here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Harper Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">now jonesy and mo matthews are harping on about the scheduling of the tour, playing the last match so late in the summer. wasn't that supposed to be in our best interests when we arrived??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Before the series most people have said that BSKYB wanted all those one-dayers at the start of the summer, and the ECB being money grabbing barstewards agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreclaw Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam Harper: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20: What Athers supposedly doing wrong? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Saying that England should still bat in bad light </div></BLOCKQUOTE> england taking the light isn;t th issue. the light being offered in the first place is. now jonesy and mo matthews are harping on about the scheduling of the tour, playing the last match so late in the summer. wasn't that supposed to be in our best interests when we arrived??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah, we gave you too much time to prepare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboygersh Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20: What Athers supposedly doing wrong? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Said the decision to go off for bad light there was ridiculous </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Somehow I think if he was captain he wouldn't be complaining. I still don't think the series is ruined if the match is a draw anyway or if it rains the rest of the match. The middle three tests and the play today has been stunning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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