Jongi Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 <insert swear word> the whole barry situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I thought he looked good for someone that hasnt played since March or something. Got the new home shirt the other day too, love the little 'This is Anfield' bit inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 i will be more than happy if xabi stays. i have never been that keen on the barry transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'd be happy enough with either, just hope we dont end going crazy and buying Barry before Alonso is sold then end up not having a buyer for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 We could easily keep Alonso AND get Barry. Rafa stated the Barry money was already there last week and the sale of Alonso wasn't necessary to finalise the deal. Add to that the fact Rafa has also stated he sees fullbacks as his way of adding width to the attack rather than wingers, and we could see an Alonso, Masch, Barry and Gerrard midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 i give up if we sign barry & keep alsonso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRH Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I don't know what Barry would have brought to the side that isn't there already. It struck me as a move to keep Gerrard happy more than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 We could easily keep Alonso AND get Barry. Rafa stated the Barry money was already there last week and the sale of Alonso wasn't necessary to finalise the deal. Add to that the fact Rafa has also stated he sees fullbacks as his way of adding width to the attack rather than wingers, and we could see an Alonso, Masch, Barry and Gerrard midfield. I'm not talking just about the cost of the deal. I'm thinking that if we have both then we have 5 central midfielders. Even if the fullbacks are going to get forward I wouldn't want to have a 4 man midfield all being central based players. Would much prefer to buy a high quality winger with that money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Stoke agree fee for keeper Carson Stoke City have agreed a fee of around £4m with Liverpool for England international goalkeeper Scott Carson, BBC Radio Stoke understands. Carson was at the Britannia Stadium on Monday to open negotiations over personal terms. The 22-year-old joined Liverpool from Leeds for £750,000 in 2005, but spent last season on loan at Aston Villa, making 35 Premier League appearances. Carson, who has two caps for England, would become Stoke's record signing. The proposed £4m fee marks a major reduction in the player's asking price, with Liverpool previously holding out for around £10m. However, Carson was critical of his original price tag, claiming it could price him out of a move. Aston Villa had been favourites to sign Carson on a permanent basis, but manager Martin O'Neill's interest appeared to cool with Tottenham keeper Paul Robinson emerging as a more likely target for the Villans. Liverpool, who have already sold Peter Crouch to Portsmouth this summer, are keen to free up transfer funds as they look to finalise a deal for Villa captain Gareth Barry and continue to chase Spurs striker Robbie Keane. Stoke, meanwhile, will hope that Carson follows midfielder Rudolph Austin into the club, the 22-year-old midfielder signing in a £1m deal from Jamaican side Portmore United. £4m better than a loan i suspose. him having such a bad second half of the season at villa effected his price a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet-Zombie-Jesus Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 4m.Is that all? There must be some add-ons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Good deal for Stoke, bad for us Only 4m for what will probably be a future number 1 england goalkeeper Must be some type of clauses in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanricouk Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Good deal. Hes a **** keeper. We've also made 2 mil from the loan deal to Villa, so 6mil made from a £750,000 signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Wasnt aware there was money in his loan fee, so that makes it better But i still think we should of got more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Future number 1 england goalkeeper isn't a massive achievement. Though he probably won't be anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRH Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Great signing from Stokes point of view though. Hope he does well there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well i'd love to be England's number 1 Doubt you will find many english goalkeepers that wouldnt like to be tbh, so it is a big acheivement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well, a young goalkeeper who has the potential to be the number 1 goalkeeper in his country, i just thought he would go for more than 4m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissybabe Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Juventus signing Poulsen doesn't bode well for the Alonso deal. I get the feeling he'll be staying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJG123 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well i'd love to be England's number 1Doubt you will find many english goalkeepers that wouldnt like to be tbh, so it is a big acheivement WP on ridiculously taking a post out of context. "Potentially becoming England No 1" isn't a big achievement for a professional footballer who plays for Liverpool, and is not a reason for him to stay. He could, potentially, be England No. 1 and be a distinctly average goalkeeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Thats a decent deal for all parties involved tbh. Carson gets first team Premier League footy and we get another £4mill added to the transfer kitty for a player who cost peanuts and was never going to be a first team regular. All those people saying we should be getting more money for Carson should realise he has been on the transfer list for a while now and no-one has come forward until now with a bid. As Alanricouk said we have now recouped £6mill for him which is excellent business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Carson was good business indeed, as was the Guthrie sale imo. Carson won't ever be England number 1, not with keepers like Ben Foster and Joe Hart around. I hope he does well at Stoke though. I reckon there's room for Alonso and Barry if you consider Gerrard as more of a second striker. Those two alongside Masch with Lucas as back-up should see us through all competitions quite nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinLFC Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 4 mill for Carson I would had thought it should had been around 7 but last season he wasnt that great with Villa which maybe the reason for the drop in price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 whats happening with Itandje about time he buggers of. sky sports website claiming the carson deal is £3.5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Nemeth scored for hungary today at the under 19 euro's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Nemeth is King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Do LFC TV show reserve/U18 games throughout the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 They did last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Carson was good business indeed, as was the Guthrie sale imo. Carson won't ever be England number 1, not with keepers like Ben Foster and Joe Hart around. I hope he does well at Stoke though. I reckon there's room for Alonso and Barry if you consider Gerrard as more of a second striker. Those two alongside Masch with Lucas as back-up should see us through all competitions quite nicely. Masch? As backup? To anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Lucas as back-up, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Read it properly joshboy, Lucas is the back-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Carson was good business indeed, as was the Guthrie sale imo. Carson won't ever be England number 1, not with keepers like Ben Foster and Joe Hart around. I hope he does well at Stoke though. I reckon there's room for Alonso and Barry if you consider Gerrard as more of a second striker. Those two alongside Masch with Lucas as back-up should see us through all competitions quite nicely. So is this playing a 3 man midfield or Barry on the left ? We could play some sort of 4-3-1-2 formation and have Barry Masch and Alonso as the 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy_Bum Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 It seems Ajdarevic may sign for us permanently, as he is having a trial from today. Nemeth is too good for a trial, and may sign for us on loan after the U19 championships. Hope he is as good as you lot suggest. Most excited I have been about a transfer at Elland Road for god knows how long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Galgreefe Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 ajdarevic takes a better set piece than anyone else at liverpool. i don't think you'll get nemeth though. he was a good first teamer in the top division in hungary before he joined us, and that's probably a better standard than league one. wouldn't mind if he did go there as long as gary mac actually plays proper, pass and move football like he says he will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreclaw Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Juventus signing Poulsen doesn't bode well for the Alonso deal. I get the feeling he'll be staying. Let's hope. In an ideal world we'll keep Alonso and never mention Gareth Barry's name again. TBH I wanted Barry, but with the fees involved and the amount MON has been a bellend, i'd rather keep Alonso and not give in to MON's tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Juventus have annouced that they don't want Xabi now, after signing Poulsen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Seems as though there is now only a £1mill difference with our valuation of Barry and Villa's £18mill valuation. Looks as though that deal will be done soon (can't see Rafa pulling out now, even though we are paying over the odds) but the Xabi news today is interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Have I just heard right on SSN - apparently Barry can buy himself out of his contract next season for £2mill. If thats the case then surely we should just tell them to gtf and get him next year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I really hope we don't end up with both Barry and Alonso. I wanted Barry and for us to get rid of Alonso but now I'd prefer to just call it off and keep Alonso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Galgreefe Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 if we end up paying £18m for barry, keeping alonso and signing no new wingers i might start supporting tranmere or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Apparently, Valencia only want 16m for Joaquin Why doesnt Rafa go after him, cheeper than Barry and plays where we should be singing players for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy From The Sunny Place Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Joaquin requires a few doctors with him though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet-Zombie-Jesus Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Why does Joaquin need doctors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dave Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Our friendly is on channel 5 tomorrow. Will be a good chance to see our new striker and winger in action. Oh wait, it's going to be Degen and Leto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet-Zombie-Jesus Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Damn.Don't have channel 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cote_kid Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Little Dave? Hmmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissybabe Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Welcome back gr. Can't wait for he world's narrowest midfield next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreclaw Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Seems as though there is now only a £1mill difference with our valuation of Barry and Villa's £18mill valuation. Looks as though that deal will be done soon (can't see Rafa pulling out now, even though we are paying over the odds) but the Xabi news today is interesting. Doubt it, we were at this point 2 weeks ago and we've not bid since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Headline on BBC Football is "Barry returns to Villa training". Looking more like Alonso will stay and Barry won't come. Which I think I'd prefer, given the supposed valuation of the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinLFC Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 whats happening with Itandje about time he buggers of.sky sports website claiming the carson deal is £3.5m. The last I heard was that Itandje was off to Galatasary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissybabe Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I know Barry hasn't covered himself in glory but we've f*cked him right over if we end up not buying him. Thoroughly feasible now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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