skybluedave Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Swiss away probably our hardest game, playing them 2nd is the same thing we did with Croatia last time. Get the impression Capello likes the ahrdest game out the way early maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 would have thought Wales away will be our hardest test, rivalry n all. Friday nights now also a footy night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'd be a bit disappointed if Bent didn't go to SA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Swiss away probably our hardest game, playing them 2nd is the same thing we did with Croatia last time. Get the impression Capello likes the ahrdest game out the way early maybe They were decided by a random draw in the end, because all the different FAs failed to agree a schedule. Not too bad, but I think he'd rather have played Bulgaria/Montenegro away earlier on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted March 28, 2010 Author Share Posted March 28, 2010 4 of the top 5 goal scorers in the Premiership are English- not bad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Only because Torres has been crippled all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 4 of the top 5 goal scorers in the Premiership are English- not bad! Only because Torres has been crippled all season. Case in point. Make that 2 in 6 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Just some random thoughts after the football this weekend. I think Lampard has been solid for us under Capello. But it's clearly not top end Lampard (eg: yesterday). I think he has had more defensive duties for England, seems to interchange with Barry a bit when deciding to go forward. I do wonder whether we should try a 451 in one of the friendlies before the WC. Barry, Gerrard and Lampard giving more freedom for Lampard. TBH I'd love to see Barry-Carrick behind Lampard but that isn't gonna happen with Gerrard around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Rooney got caught right at the end of the Bayern game, doesn't look good at the mo, especially when he goes to ground and stays there /o\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Who caught him? Was it some dirty Argie? Crouch and Defoe up front then please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 on the replay, it wasn't the actual "challenge" but he landed awkwardly and his foot buckled a bit (twisted ankle, maybe ligaments etc), doesn't look as bad, think we're fine for RSA, but he'll probably be out of the Utd Chelski game and maybe even the 2nd leg vs Bayern. Sir Alex says its a wait and see until tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hope you are right. Nice rest for him before the WC then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Ah, Rooney, Rooney, Rooney Went over on his ankle, Fergie playing it down, hopefully it isn't much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Apparently Rooney is out for 4 weeks, not ligament damage. Interactive Injured England Squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yeah he should be back before the end of the season, same with Ashley Cole. Was too good to be true, all this Rooney form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 The following is little more than a rant, sorry! I couldn't think of which other thread to put it in. Tony Cascarino has a weekley "column" in The Sunday Times, where he simply lists five things which are on his mind (regarding football). It's usually pretty terrible, but as it's centre-right on page three of a well respected newspaper, so I guess I am in a minority and people love his views. Number Five today was (I'm paraphrasing) "Bent needs to go to the World Cup this summer, instead of a third goalkeeper. Third goalkeepers are never used anyway so instead of wasting the spot take Bent" Now, call me old-fashioned, but if you are paid by a newspaper (heck - what has being paid got to do with it anyway - it should just be pride?) to offer comment shouldn't you read up on the subjects you are commenting on? It's a FIFA rule that national teams have to take three goalkeepers to tournaments such as the WC. I couldn't care less if Bent goes or not, but by saying third GKs are pointless he is ignorant of the basic rules. /rant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 that is terrible knowledge there. Cascarino such an idiot. In other news, A.Cole should be back playing in 3/4 weeks and hopefully Hargreaves can get some game time, would love to see him at the WC. Also good to see Joe Cole play well against United, he's usually one of our unsung heroes in international comps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Yes, originally was 22 players but they then made it 23 for an extra keeper. The thing with Bent is that we are likely to take 2 target men and 2 goal scorers. Bent would come under goal scorers and wont be ahead of Defoe or Rooney. And Bent has had a few chances and never impressed or even scored for England. Recently he started against Brazil and was pretty bad. Whereas Defoe scored twice against Holland and Rooney is Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 Cascarino is a clown. Best ever footy song. Some awesome penalties taken in that shootout with Germany. Its amazing how many more good English strikers we had in 96, A.Cole, Sheringham, Wright, Ferdinand, Shearer, Fowler, Collymore without even thinking. Compared to Rooney and erm....C.Cole, Heskey, Crouchie etc Seaman was a lot better than what we have in goal now too. Defence and Midfield would be a good debate, I'd go for our current lot, although I think the Euro 96' team had greater depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Euro 96 squad 1 GK David Seaman 19 September 1963 (aged 32) 24 Arsenal 2 DF Gary Neville 18 February 1975 (aged 21) 10 Manchester United 3 DF Stuart Pearce 24 April 1962 (aged 34) 65 Nottingham Forest 4 MF Paul Ince 21 October 1967 (aged 28) 19 Internazionale 5 DF Tony Adams (captain) 10 October 1966 (aged 29) 40 Arsenal 6 DF Gareth Southgate 3 September 1970 (aged 25) 4 Aston Villa 7 MF David Platt 10 June 1966 (aged 29) 58 Arsenal 8 MF Paul Gascoigne 27 May 1967 (aged 29) 38 Rangers 9 FW Alan Shearer 13 August 1970 (aged 25) 23 Blackburn Rovers 10 FW Teddy Sheringham 2 April 1966 (aged 30) 15 Tottenham Hotspur 11 MF Darren Anderton 3 March 1972 (aged 24) 11 Tottenham Hotspur 12 DF Steve Howey 26 October 1971 (aged 24) 4 Newcastle United 13 GK Ian Walker 31 October 1971 (aged 24) 2 Tottenham Hotspur 14 MF Nick Barmby 11 February 1974 (aged 22) 6 Middlesbrough 15 MF Jamie Redknapp 25 June 1973 (aged 22) 4 Liverpool 16 DF Sol Campbell 18 September 1974 (aged 21) 1 Tottenham Hotspur 17 MF Steve McManaman 11 February 1972 (aged 24) 10 Liverpool 18 FW Les Ferdinand 8 December 1966 (aged 29) 10 Newcastle United 19 DF Phil Neville 21 January 1977 (aged 19) 1 Manchester United 20 MF Steve Stone 20 August 1971 (aged 24) 6 Nottingham Forest 21 FW Robbie Fowler 9 April 1975 (aged 21) 3 Liverpool 22 GK Tim Flowers 3 February 1967 (aged 29) 8 Blackburn Rovers The WC98 squad would of been better if they had taken Dion Dublin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 And if Gazza had kept himself in shape I do hope you are joking about Dublin (pressumably not, as you're a Sky Blue!). Good player, very good on his day, but not international quality for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 Platt was only 29? Thought he must have been 30's, as his career stalled pretty soon afterwards. Very young squad that, Fowler, both Nevilles, Redknapp, Barmby, Shearer, Stone, Anderton, McManaman, Howey, Walker all 25 and under. A lot of those were very good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm not joking. He was joint top scorer in the Prem going into that WC (think it was that year). He could of doubled up as centre back too. Would of taken him over Rio Ferdinand or Merson to WC98 We took 5 centre backs ffs Maybe a bit biased....... but was really disapointed he never went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I feel like if we're discussing Dublin then someone should mention 'he's a handful' at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 1 GK David Seaman 19 September 1963 (aged 34) England Arsenal 2 DF Sol Campbell 18 September 1974 (aged 23) England Tottenham Hotspur 3 DF Graeme Le Saux 17 October 1968 (aged 29) England Chelsea 4 MF Paul Ince 21 October 1967 (aged 30) England Liverpool 5 DF Tony Adams 10 October 1966 (aged 31) England Arsenal 6 DF Gareth Southgate 3 September 1970 (aged 27) England Aston Villa 7 MF David Beckham 2 May 1975 (aged 23) England Manchester United 8 MF David Batty 2 December 1968 (aged 29) England Newcastle United 9 FW Alan Shearer 13 August 1970 (aged 27) England Newcastle United 10 FW Teddy Sheringham 2 April 1966 (aged 32) England Manchester United 11 MF Steve McManaman 11 February 1972 (aged 26) England Liverpool 12 DF Gary Neville 18 February 1975 (aged 23) England Manchester United 13 GK Nigel Martyn 11 August 1966 (aged 31) England Leeds United 14 MF Darren Anderton 3 March 1972 (aged 26) England Tottenham Hotspur 15 MF Paul Merson 20 March 1968 (aged 30) England Middlesbrough 16 MF Paul Scholes 16 November 1974 (aged 23) England Manchester United 17 MF Rob Lee 1 February 1966 (aged 32) England Newcastle United 18 DF Martin Keown 24 July 1966 (aged 31) England Arsenal 19 FW Les Ferdinand 18 December 1966 (aged 31) England Tottenham Hotspur 20 FW Michael Owen 14 December 1979 (aged 18) England Liverpool 21 DF Rio Ferdinand 7 November 1978 (aged 19) England West Ham United 22 GK Tim Flowers Fair point on the CB's, how good was he there though? I can't really remember? Hoddle had some great ideas, think he is a brilliant pundit, shame he was so shoking at man management. Maybe Gazza was on a self destruct mission, but his handling of Beckham was poor. edit- but did we play 3 CB's under Hoddle? If so 5 is justified for me. Getting confused on formations, played a mixture of 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Good point on the formations. I seem to think we played 3 at the back at one of these tournements. Might of been WC98 then. Didn't El Tel play a Xmas Tree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 i've come to the conclusion that Zamora's undeniable talent will remain untapped for the World Cup for one reason, the referees. By god that euro 96 squad was pretty outstanding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dublin will never be forgot by Villa fans, for that headbutt on Savage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 O'Neil keeping an eye on Milner, rested him last week, he has played a hell of a lot of football what with the U21 tournament and all. Ashley Cole should be fit too ... bloody hope so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why did Dublin have to be such a traitor . Awesome player mind but joining Villa . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/10/al-qaida-england-usa-world-cup The warning was issued the other day I think. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 First I've heard of it really amazed it hasn't got more media attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Mentioned in the WC forum, but could we have this thread moved there? Unless someone wants to make a new thread and leave this redudant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Its coming home, Its coming home....... Please happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 C'mon England! Title change would be good. Something witty and clever instead of "do we need one??" please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 with a dictator, an old king and a Beatle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Haha, be my guest. I would have put more effort if I knew this would be the WC thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The Official English National Football Team Thread WARNING: CONTAINS DELUDED ENGLISH FANS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 with failure, massive failure, and Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 The Official English National Football Team Thread WARNING: CONTAINS DELUDED ENGLISH FANS I like! Though tbf the posters so far haven't been! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I confidently predict we will win the world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 The Official English National Football Team Thread- South Africa lock up your daughters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 .... something Italian out of respect for Capello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Was watching ESPN classics, Hodgson V Capello in the Milan derby. Zanetti was playing back then even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 really, really looking like Lennon won't make it, no word on when he's supposedly due back, is there? I hope he gets plenty of time to prove himself, got until end of May, I'd hope he makes the initial 30 or whatever is it before it gets scaled back for the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Normally it's JT doing the screwing....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 really, really looking like Lennon won't make it, no word on when he's supposedly due back, is there? I hope he gets plenty of time to prove himself, got until end of May, I'd hope he makes the initial 30 or whatever is it before it gets scaled back for the squad I'll be really upset if Lennon doesn't make it. He was awesome in the 5-1 against Croatia. So was everyone really. That's like the benchmark performance for us. If we can play like that in SA then who knows. And Lennon was vital in that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 What about Adam Johnson being in the squad then? Is he good enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Not seen enough of him. Sounds like Capello likes him though. Sounds like he's gonna be in the 30 man pre WC squad. Guess it depends a lot on Lennon's fitness on whether he'd go to the WC or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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