Father Senegal Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yids100: my 1st norf london derby in he park lane!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I just counted, I've been to 25 North London derbies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Father Senegal: I just counted, I've been to 25 North London derbies <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I've been to 15. Only 5 of them away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yids100 Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 i've only been to 3 but then you are both a bit older then me! 91' fa cup semi, fa cup semi at OT and last year at the lane! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yids100: i've only been to 3 but then you are both a bit older then me! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Join the club mate, there are plenty of others in the same boat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappo Smiffy Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Firstly, change the blóody title I'm morally outraged here. Secondly I predict a 3-1 win for the arse an riots afterwards. All they have to do is put doherty clean through in his own area and he'll do the rest, hes deadly/suicidal from anywhere within 20yrds of his own box Carr is suspended, and Davies took a knock in our last game so our midfiled will be ****e to say the least. COME ON YOU SPURS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Father Senegal: Join the club mate, there are plenty of others in the same boat <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Indeed, and I haven't been to one for a while! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlando Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Our best defender suspended, our best midfielder injured, Pleat playing players out of position all over the place and Doc is a first team regular. Wheras Arsenal have all instrumental players available and are demolish anything they come across. I'm not sure if I'll be arsed draging myself to witness this on Saturday, or just starting drinking the sorrows away from home. Then I at least save the walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ryan Hollands: I can see a draw here tbh, merely because I think Tottenham will do everything they can to stop Arsenal winning and that may even mean curbing their usual attacking football to do so.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Tottenham usually play attacking football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando THFC Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rich : <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ryan Hollands: I can see a draw here tbh, merely because I think Tottenham will do everything they can to stop Arsenal winning and that may even mean curbing their usual attacking football to do so.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Tottenham usually play attacking football? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Of course, look at how freely we've been scoring recently. 2 goals in 7 games, one of which was an own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 When on a rare occasion Tottenham score three in one game, the opposition usually score four Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Sorry about the attacking football comment, I'm stuck back a few months ago when Spurs were scoring 3 or 4 goals a game.... and still not winning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando THFC Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ryan Hollands: Sorry about the attacking football comment, I'm stuck back a few months ago when Spurs were scoring 3 or 4 goals a game.... and still not winning <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Right, that's it. You and me outside in the carpark now. No hitting the face though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Get 'im Ando Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 oh btw, Ando: It's 3 goals in 8 games, one of which was an own goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Father Senegal: Rand asked me to pass on the following too I WiLl kiLl and KcaD U aLL.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Message from rand: i am coming for them all guns blazing but it would be sweet if arsenal won't get the leage oh it would be so sweet but still beter they then busterd peter k and his "loved" chlski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotg Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Well it's good to see that Pleat has a plan to beat the Arse. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Pleat, who will stand down in the summer, knows where the root of the problem lies. "We have to show more muscle, especially away from home," he said. "We lack a bit of power. What we must not do is give away any free-kicks against Arsenal as they are a very good team." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So. If we don't give any free-kicks away we'll win eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Pleat iafc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yids100: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ratinho: Be lucky to get within ten yards of him.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> that wont stop pires and the rest of your cheatin lot from divin!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ahh, the sweet sound of a bitter Spurs fan. Beautiful, wonderful music to my ears. In a post featuring Tarrico's name, you attempt to call us cheats. I love you man, and all your kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by spotg: Well it's good to see that Pleat has a plan to beat the Arse. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Pleat, who will stand down in the summer, knows where the root of the problem lies. "We have to show more muscle, especially away from home," he said. "We lack a bit of power. What we must not do is give away any free-kicks against Arsenal as they are a very good team." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So. If we don't give any free-kicks away we'll win eh? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Jesus!! He really doesn't have a clue, does he? We are total dogs**t from free-kicks, 'cos Henry shoots everytime and no-one has genuine quality delivery. And even when we get god delivery, we are hardly the strongest team on the offensive header front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Some Sperz team news and pre match gumph Come on you rip roaring reds Tottenham v Arsenal White Hart Lane Sunday, 24 April Kick-off: 1605 BST Referee: Mark Halsey (Lancashire) Tottenham may turn to Dean Richards and Darren Anderton, who have both been suffering from Achilles problems. Captain and right-back Stephen Carr serves the second match of his three-game suspension. Tottenham (from): Keller, Kelly, Gardner, Doherty, Taricco, Ziege, Brown, Redknapp, Kanoute, Defoe, Keane, Davies, Dalmat, Jackson, Marney, Bunjevcevic, King, Postiga, Richards, Ricketts, Anderton, Mabizela, Hirschfield. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BIG-MATCH FACTS TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR face Arsenal in the 134th North London League derby, and the Spurs faithful will face the ignominy of witnessing their arch rivals lifting the Premiership title, if the Gunners win and Chelsea fail to claim maximum points off Newcastle from the earlier Sunday kick off at St James' Park. It would be the second time Arsenal had clinched the League crown at the Lane - they managed it in 1971. The White Hart Lane club go into the game having claimed just one point from a last possible 18. They've not won in six, and their 1-0 home success over Newcastle on 14 March is their only win in nine Premiership games. Spurs' highest ever Premiership placing is seventh. They have finished in the top ten on seven of the 11 Premier League seasons, but are currently well outside the top half and in danger of ending the campaign below their lowest Premier League finish of 15th, ten years ago. Spurs are aiming to beat their North London rivals for the first time in ten League and Cup meetings. The last three corresponding fixtures have been 1-1 draws and ten of the 23 Premiership fixtures between the pair have finished level. ARSENAL are within touching distance of a second Premiership title in three years, a third Premier League crown in their history and a 13th English League Championship. The Gunners go into this game on the back of a vintage 5-0 demolition of relegation-haunted Leeds. It was a victory that took their club and Premiership record-breaking unbeaten run to 35 games and their undefeated sequence from the beginning of this season to 33 matches. It leaves them needing to avoid defeat in five more top flight games to become the third club ever to go through an entire League season without defeat. Liverpool were the last to achieve it in 1893-94 but were only required to play 28 games in their Second Division campaign and Preston did it in 1888-89, having played 22 top flight matches. The Gunners had to come from behind with a late deflected strike from Freddy Ljungberg to win the reverse fixture 2-1 in November. It means if Arsenal can achieve their first victory at White Hart Lane since the 1-3 triumph on 5 May 1999, they'll complete a first Premiership 'double' over Spurs and 13th over them since League conflict commenced in 1909. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SEQUENCES/RECENT FORM TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR Club stats Going into the weekend: 14th 38 points A 1-1 home draw against Manchester City on 12 April was the only game which yielded anything, points wise, in six Premiership outings. Drawn only five times in the highest League. Managed only six clean sheets in the top division - half of them at home. Gone 24 League matches since a goalless draw (away to Middlesbrough on 26 October). Failed to score in 15 top flight matches. Been 'doubled' by Fulham, Manchester United, Southampton, Chelsea and Bolton so far. Of their 42 goals, 13 have been scored in the last quarter-hour of Premiership games. The next fixture is away to Aston Villa next Sunday, 2 May. After this, one home games and two away remain. The run-in ARSENAL Club stats Going into the weekend: 1st 81 points Can afford to drop 11 of their 15 remaining available points and still lift the Premiership trophy. With five matches to go, already amassed 81 points. Only accumulated more than 80 points once since the Premier League was inaugurated. That was 87 in the season before last when they were champions. Won 24 and drawn nine in the Premiership this season. Won 26 and drawn nine in the Premiership since going down 2-3 at home to Leeds on 4 May. Lost just twice in 54 Premiership matches, winning 36 of them. Dropped only 18 points so far. The least a title winning side has dropped in a 20-club Premiership is 23, the most 39. The only remaining unbeaten club in the English League. The Premiership's most winning team (24 matches), with the strongest attack (67 goals in 33 games), and the meanest defence (22 goals conceded) - ahead of this weekend's round of matches. Already 'doubled' Middlesbrough, Aston Villa, Manchester City, Wolves, Southampton, Chelsea, Blackburn, Liverpool and Leeds. Undefeated in 20 away League games (16 this season). Won ten away League games this season, drawn six and lost none. Scored 29 League goals on the road at an average of 1.81 goals per game. Conceded just nine times on their Premiership travels, at an average of 0.56 goals per game. Failed to score in only three Premiership games this term - fewer than any other club. Scored in 105 of the last 110 Premiership matches. Achieved the longest winning run by any club in the top division this season (nine matches). Won nine of 33 League games this season by a 2-1 margin. Used fewer players in Premiership matches this season than any other club (21). After this, it's a home game against Birmingham next Saturday lunchtime. Two home matches and two away remain, including another London derby, away to Fulham. The run-in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 With thoses stats i'm totally confident.... Come on Spurs!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfastNiall Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 If we play like we did last year, there is every chance we will lose. I'm taking nothing for granted in this game. We're a cut above of course, but Spurs will attempt to come at us, and we need to stand up to them better than we did last year. Still think we'll be far too strong though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 According to SSN. should we clinch the title at WHL, the players will NOT celebrate on the pitch afterwards. Common senseI suppose but part of me wishes that the squad as a whole would run over to where the old Shelf was a pull at collective moonie. Anyway, Arsenal team news Arsène Wenger has virtually the entire Arsenal squad at his disposal for the North London derby at White Hart Lane on Sunday. Ashley Cole (ankle) and Freddie Ljungberg (broken hand) have been back in full training during a rare free week for the Premiership leaders. Both missed the 5-0 victory over Leeds nearly a week ago but they are available again on Sunday. Indeed apart from Stuart Taylor, whose shoulder problem will keep him out for the rest of the campaign, the only major absentee is centre back Pascal Cygan and even he is on the way back after an ankle problem. "I have nearly a complete squad available," Wenger told Arsenal Plus during an exclusive interview on Thursday afternoon. "Ashley Cole and Freddie Ljungberg are both back in full training. "Pascal Cygan is not completely back. He is in training but he is not up to full fitness yet. He can't have contact with the ball at the moment." Arsenal Plus subscribers will be able to see the full interview with the Arsenal manager on Friday morning. Wenger talks about the "eternity" since they last played, the Champions League Semi-Finals, Tottenham's troubles this season, the threat of Jermain Defoe and international call-ups next week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wycombe Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Father Senegal: According to SSN. should we clinch the title at WHL, the players will NOT celebrate on the pitch afterwards. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> but but but but, JAMES SAID WE'RE NOT THAT NICE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Senegal, what's that moaning Manc thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by recon: Senegal, what's that moaning Manc thread? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Sorry chap, you've lost me there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Smith Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Were going to get raped, 6-0 to the **** RIP SPURS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Smudger Smith: Were going to get raped, 6-0 to the **** RIP SPURS <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thats the spirit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carlos_Hotspur: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Smudger Smith: Were going to get raped, 6-0 to the **** RIP SPURS <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thats the spirit <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Indeed it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Can't beat a bit of positive thinking to get behind the lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Father Senegal: According to SSN. should we clinch the title at WHL, the players will NOT celebrate on the pitch afterwards.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Arrogant swines. Eh' Bobbie we won ze championship! *shrugs* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Smith Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Carlos I am a realist, and there is no other evidence that suggests anything other than an Arsenal win IMO. we have a bumbling fool as caretaker manager that likes playing players out of position. a keeper that is always suspect to the odd calamity howler a defence that has Gary Docherty at the core Steven Carr is out suspended, so a rookie will have to deputise in his place against Pires, Henry A strikeforce that does not score any goals, although the supply is fairly non-excistant (sp) and HENRY is on Fire at the moment and Arsenal have yet to lose a game in the premiership this season so you can stick your positive thinking up yer arsehole!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 It's a derby ffs - anything can happen. Temperaments of a Spurs fan - suicidal or elated... with nothing inbetween! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Obviously they are the favourites, and i'm a realist too, but theres no point moaning about it, Just back the lads and hope they put on a performance. I know the odds are massively against us but so what? Lets get behind them and hope they do their best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 To be fair though Smudger this is a derby so form goes out of the window (cliche # 1). At the end of the day (cliche #2) Spurs players will be up for this more than any other game in their season, so positive thinking is what is required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carlos_Hotspur: Obviously they are the favourites, and i'm a realist too, but theres no point moaning about it, Just back the lads and hope they put on a performance. I know the odds are massively against us but so what? Lets get behind them and hope they do their best.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually I think you are hoping we don't put in a performance rather than vice versa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Even though you pre-empted me Retro I like to think that my post was a lot more succint and informative. 'Yes boss' [/Phil Neal] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Retro: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carlos_Hotspur: Obviously they are the favourites, and i'm a realist too, but theres no point moaning about it, Just back the lads and hope they put on a performance. I know the odds are massively against us but so what? Lets get behind them and hope they do their best.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually I think you are hoping we _don't_ put in a performance rather than vice versa! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well that would be a bit of a help i suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Father Senegal: Even though you pre-empted me Retro I like to think that my post was a lot more succint and informative. 'Yes boss' [/Phil Neal] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I've just done it again in the Farnham thread... and mine was more informative in that one! Loser! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Come on Tariccio!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Retro: eh?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I can't believe that you're arrogant arsehole players wont even bother celebrating winning the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlando Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Retro: Temperaments of a Spurs fan - suicidal or elated... with nothing inbetween! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's because we "never" draw games. We either win or lose. On and Off, see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by James07?: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Retro: eh?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I can't believe that you're arrogant arsehole players wont even bother celebrating winning the championship.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I assume this is tongue in cheek, as you aren't stupid, but just in case: Dancing around on the pitch, running to and celebrating with the fans, would incite riots outside the ground. For the safety of the fans I assume they have been advised NOT to celebrate wildly infront of the scum faithful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappo Smiffy Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Scenario Reminders: 1. If Newcastle and Chelsea draw then only an Arsenal win would hand them the title. 2. If Chelsea win then even if Arsenal win, Chelsea would be 9pts behind with 3 games remaining, therefore meaning mathematically they can still catch Arsenal 3. If Chelsea lose then just a draw will do for Arsenal. 4. If both Chelsea and Arsenal draw then situation 2 would apply Come on you lilywhites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 In other words, come on Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 Come on you rip roaring reds. Come one Newcastle Come one last minute Campbell winner for the Gunners Will be watching the first 60 or so minutes of the Newcastle game in the Twelve Pins in Finsbury Park, before making my way to WHL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 I'll be listening to the game on the radio driving to the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappo Smiffy Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 I'm skiving off work an hour early to run to a local pub to watch it. COME ONE ME NOT GETTING CAUGHT \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
only one keano (robbie) Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Smiffy: Does your boss like football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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