dking Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I have a youth player who is very good, however, he is only 16. Do you think it is to young to play him even though he could easily do a job? Will it burn him out? Is it possible to burn youngsters out? Basically, will it help his progression or hinder it? If you think you have the answer could you explain, in detail, why you think it will help or hinder him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Now there's a thread title... eek! I've had mixed results with players that young - sometimes they crack under the pressure, leading to poor morale. Sometimes they're not as effective due to relatively low mental attributes, which will grow as they mature. Either way, sprinkle him into the lineup as long as he's doing well and getting good ratings, but I wouldn't hope to rely on him as a every-game starter that first season. Just my experience. Definitely find him a good tutor though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob110481 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 i usually put my 16 year old regen in the odd league cup game dont play him that much yet then when he turns 17 will send him to my feeder club for a year to see how hes developing my advice is if hes good enough to play then play him but dont play him week in week out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postman123 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 play him if you think he is good enough, take a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thread title of the year tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontask Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 had a few before, the reports i had were saying hes good enough to be in the 1st team. when this has happened i have generally made him a sub for the first team and will get a 20 min run out if were in a good position. started him in cup games against lower league sides and in league games when there is less pressure, e.g playin whos bottom or last game of season when the league is decided. made him available for reserves so he is getting 90 minutes in games. like somebody said above get him a tutor to help improve his game and remember not to expect too much of him at that age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Come on moderator, keep it on topic. I started the 16 year old in a mickey mouse cup game, he was absolutely outstanding. He played like he was 28, not 16, and got a 7.9 rating. Admittedly, the opposition wasn't the best but they weren't the worst either. Could have found myself possibly the best regen i have ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontask Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 screenshot??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 If he's good enough, he's old enough. Don't play him if he's at all tired though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnetboyz Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 i never take age in consideration when it comes to good players, (currently have a 18 year old french striker who was starting matches when he was signed as a 16 year old, and also have a 15 year old (got his debut at 14) when i had my normal right back injured) so no 16 is not to young for players imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubey84 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thread title of the year tbh. Undoubtedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarian Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I've never really paid that much attention to how old a player is. I've rarely played a youngster who is on a youth contract in a first team match. Though that is mainly due to the fact I've rarely found a regen under 17 who is good enough. I was disappointed to get a 14 year regen when managing in Brazil who was my best player by far only to find he is too young to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'd use him as a sub, often, with occasional starts. That reduces the risk of "feeling the pressure of public expectation", whilst increasing possible game time. That doesn't apply so much to goalkeepers or defenders. I'd be tempted to play them once every three matches as a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsdfdsf Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Like one of my friends says "if theres grass on the wicket, lets play cricket!!"..... Oh, i think i have mis-understood. if hes good enough to play then play him but dont play him week in week out, play against lesser teams, cup comps etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montanaro Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I started a 16 year old goalkeeper, he leaked goals, but did a lot more good than bad. At 17 he is still starting and honestly kicking butt. He has 17 pace, makes for an excellent sweeper keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 If he's good enough, he's old enough. This . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham FM Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 i currently have a 16 year old playing CB for my team doing a good job so depends on if trust him enough to start playing him that soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan0r Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I would suggest to wait untill you know eachother a little longer and make ur right hand ur best friend untill then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigadier Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 As long as you don't record it and stick it on the internet it's fine... Oh, FM? Well as long as you don't play them week in week out, and they're good enough, then play them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Billy-Jay Jones Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I've had mixed results when playing youngsters, though I only play them in the cup games until they establish themselves. That said, i've got an attacking midfielder who came on in a cup game last season (When he was 16, he's 17 now) and scored. He's now my backup AMC and has chipped in with a couple of league goals for me this season. I always remember to tell anyone that young 'no pressure' in my pre-match team talks, stops them playing nervously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heddlo2009 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 old enough to bleed, bleeding old enough. You kinds set yourself up with that title dude. I'd ship him out to a much lower league team, where he'll learn the true meaning of "toughing up", not for long tho, like 3 months or something. This'll get him a little experience of first team action. Then I'd bring him back with a good tutor and start bringing him on for the last20 mind, giving him a few starts. You dontwant to play him too much tho cos he will burn himself out and probably won't progress as you hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Age is only a number. If he's good enough to play, play him! If you check Neppo Youth Project thread, for a youth player 'Javier'. I started him all season at Liga adelante at 16 years old. He became World Class. But what are his attributes? Javier was already a 'good Liga adelante' player at 16, which is why I played on all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy69 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 At Atalanta I had a striker who made his debut at 15! Used him a lot that season, mainly as a sub and he even nicked a couple of goals! Most notably away at Juventus... shame they scored 4 mind! It really helped his progression, when I left Atalanta he was a first team and scored a decent amount of goals. His value rocketed up as well. Just checked his value and he's now worth 6 million, is 18 now and last season he scored 10 in 15 games! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 For some 16 is too old, *cough* Glitter *cough* Normally if they have the attributes to be played, play them! They can only get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I wanna say it......but I really shudnt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebanumut Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thats illegal yes i said it,thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Guys, careful with the jokes, i don't want the thread closed. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I had a 16 y.o. regen for Valencia who outplayed the majority of my team for a whole season, including players like David Silva + Mata.. so, go for it if you believe in hiim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thats illegalyes i said it,thank you Not in the UK (16) or France (15). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 9 of my starting 11 in my Liverpool First Team are aged 15-19. Yes you read right, 15. They are performing wonderfull also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 If he's good enough, he's old enough. EDIT: Someone already said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohkey Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Not in the UK (16) or France (15). Or in nearly 20 states of the U.S, too bad the poor grammar of the title ruined it's glamor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thread title of the year tbh. Are you THAT impressed with bad spelling? On topic, I'm surprised no one has asked the key question - what league are you playing in? If it's the EPL with it's attendant pressure, you have to be careful. I'm managing part-timers in the tenth tier - there are no cameras, no 'big games', no problem for my crop of 16 year olds to play first team football regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 played Iker Muniain on top from the start in my Athletic game, sure he got some media pressure, but still was my secound best striker after Llorente, and he still kept geting better stats first year he scored 13 goals, got 11 assists and had 7.21 rating in 32 league games (most which was from start) at an age of 16 so i supose i would agree with the others saying, if he's good enough, play him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezza88 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Well on FM 09, i had Bojan and Keirrison upfront, and both were young, and still developing... they never quite got to where they should have in the end though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southy277 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Any players I have about that age that I want to give a chance to I bring them on after 55-60 minutes unless i'm struggling in the game. This seems to give them a good chance. I have also found that if for example you have Gerrard tutoring your young un then him playing along side him seems to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibs1977 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I had a 16 yr old once, but that'sa different matter Get him played. It's been the same with FM and CM before that, you have to go with youth it's the only way. If he crumbles and burns out then he's not man enough for your team anyway!! I started playing a 16yr old in my team, he's 20 now and in the Italian U21 squad, which for a Hibs player ain't too shabby, regularly gets 20 goals a season for now, but I'll sell him soon and replace him with my 16 yr old German AMC/FC who has 1 in 2 this season (scoared on his debut). So yes play him from 16 - 21 then sell him and bring the next 16 yr old on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Rudd Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Or in nearly 20 states of the U.S, too bad the poor grammar of the title ruined it's glamor. ...and in time-honoured fashion, the person who pointed out the error made a grammatical mistake himself. (The "it's" in your post should have been "its".) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thread title of the year tbh. Pretty bold statement for a January day Come on moderator, keep it on topic. lol On topic: Play him if he is good enough, but don't play him every game. Give him rests from starting, otherwise his development might be halted at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanZG Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 9 of my starting 11 in my Liverpool First Team are aged 15-19. Yes you read right, 15. They are performing wonderfull also. I'm going to have to ask you to post screenshots of your team... I always try to get quite a few youngsters in the first squad, and the occasional 16 year old will get a few sub appearances in the CL and cups but I found that they lack a LOT of consistency when put under pressure in the league (Lukaku e.g.), but this is not a rule (Wilshere has been decent, though 17) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 Or in nearly 20 states of the U.S, too bad the poor grammar of the title ruined it's glamor. Grammar? glamor? Seriously, what on earth are you talking about. Guys, if you have nothing constructive to post on the thread, then don't post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 Are you THAT impressed with bad spelling? On topic, I'm surprised no one has asked the key question - what league are you playing in? If it's the EPL with it's attendant pressure, you have to be careful. I'm managing part-timers in the tenth tier - there are no cameras, no 'big games', no problem for my crop of 16 year olds to play first team football regularly. What is with the grammar police in this thread!! In the EPL. Not taken those factors into account. On topic, or is it off topic... Was my spelling okay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinThomson'1 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Screenshot ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkD Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I bought a promising 15 year old right back with the plan to give him reserve/u18 games for a while the loan him out. After my regular right-back had a run of poor form and my back up wasn't doing all to well I thought I'd give them a kick up the backside and started him for a league game against the bottom club. He got two assists, hit the bar and we kept a clean sheet for the first time in donkeys. I gave him a little run and he continued to do well, he was pretty much first choice for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.H. Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thats illegalyes i said it,thank you not even in this poster's country, you can get married in 16 on topic: I tend to wait wait at least until they are 20-21 if I am a big club loaning him around the world for different football experiences, but if you are a small club I would say don't hesitate... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I'm using 2 16 year old right backs who alternate because they lack the stamina, 2 central midfielders and a centre back. None are really that good now, but I find they improve much faster than when I loan them out or let them rot in the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohkey Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 ...and in time-honoured fashion, the person who pointed out the error made a grammatical mistake himself. (The "it's" in your post should have been "its".) This is an intentionally error, I think 'it's' should always be apostrophized, as it's either showing possession or a contraction for 'it is.' Possession is supposed to have the ' right? Never understood why it wasn't case for pronouns. Anyways, if the kid can play...play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMister Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I've been wondering about this recently, so it's been an interesting thread for me, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edle Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Half your age plus 7 is the general rule. Thats why Fergusons team is getting older and older Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RATED X SUPERSTAR Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I bought a sick young 15 year old, I put him in the Under 18s to get some matches and then a year later i played him in a FA cup match he scored a goal but Welback got MotM, now he's still in the under 18s at 16 years old, although i buy alot of young players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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