JamieWatson Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Downloaded this yesterday really enjoying it at the mo but i would like to know as jamie says can we go up to the 3rd div.You wont go to div 3 with them anyway m8 lol mon the talbot Lol , Well if this patch allows promotion to the 3rd division from the lower leagues, I'm gonna start a career and keep you posted on the career section of the forum Would be good to get a network game going with you on this one mate haha, The old Medda would show yeez up lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWatson Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I've had a look and the answer is there is no promotion into the 3rd. Now to the question, is there any way (using the editor) that the winner of NORTH, EAST, SOUTH & WEST leagues can go into like a playoff, for a position in 3rd division, or is this impossible? If this is impossible, is there any way atall to even make promotion available to the 3rd from the WEST, because it's Irvine Meadow I'd like to lead all the way up from the bottom. Thanks, Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter28 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Ah noooo i was hopin to get the talbot up a division or 2 after playing 12 games am top with the meadow sittin 7th anyway if it cant be done i will still be playing this database for a long time to come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 Unfortunately the way leagues are set up in the editor, it's not possible to add promotion to the third division from more than one league. Well it can be done but it would involve setting West Premier, East Premier and Highland (for example) as one big division split into 3 (this is how the fantasy Scottish database does it), and repeating that down the levels. The existing leagues and cups don't work with that format. Hopefully FM11 will work with this file (I'm told it will, and will continue to expand the file on that basis) and hopefully promotion into leagues can be set from more than one unique division. Right now promotion is added a bit like a chain: League 1 -> League 2 -> League 3 etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter28 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Nice 1 m8 good to hear you will continue doing this as am lovin it .Playing against the teams i played in real life makes the game more real for me great work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meter Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Nice 1 m8 good to hear you will continue doing this as am lovin it .Playing against the teams i played in real life makes the game more real for me great work gonna update for 10.3? will say again, great work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 gonna update for 10.3?will say again, great work Does it not work with 10.3? I haven't had time to try yet have to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter28 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Its fine for 10.3 working on mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWatson Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Its fine for 10.3 working on mine Mine too, shame about the 3rd division thing. Even still, I can have lots of fun with this I'd imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meter Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Mine too, shame about the 3rd division thing. Even still, I can have lots of fun with this I'd imagine thanks for heads up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meter Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Trying to make a competition logo pack for this..Has anyone made or started one? Will not go through the work if already done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 I've posted another update - a lot more amateur teams added, plus some playable amateur competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 Another major update, all leagues now resemble the 2010-11 season and hav e the 2 new teams in at Junior level as well as Berwick Reserves in the East of Scotland league. Tonnes more amateur club info added too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatwal Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 will this happen for fm 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Yep, the link is the same: http://nonleaguescotland.co.uk/SCOTLANDNONLEAGUE.zip for best results, load a custom database, loading all Scottish staff, and both add key staff and fill squads options. The file contains the usual level of depth and detail and REALISM. As little fantasy in this as the editor makes possible. Tested to 2017 yesterday, have made a few changes since - any major issues just shout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Jeez mate, excellent piece of work here. Well done. Sounds wierd but I feel like I can't get into FM11 just don't seem that excited about starting a new league but this has given me a boost hahaha. Thanks alot for all your efforts mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Borghesi Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hi all. Nice to see The Real McCoy again. Work even for 2011? or need an update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Update is 2 posts above your one Marco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Borghesi Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 ooooh thank you ... so i could i use with no problem in FM2011 ... right? great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Yeah its updated for FM11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Borghesi Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 How real is that competition? i used even last year ... but i didn't ask last before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 All competitions are real Marco. The real Scottish system is pretty complicated - as my file shows! lol All of the leagues that are known by the Scottish FA as 'Non Recreational' are included. I'll expand it to include the 'Recreational' leagues when I get a few minutes or 100... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
munrowil Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Any help for dummies as to how to install this? Using steam version, and cannot find the installation area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodro Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I'm sure this is a daft question but with regards to having promotion from more than 1 league, how is this handled by the Blue Square North/South into the Blue Square Premier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Any help for dummies as to how to install this?Using steam version, and cannot find the installation area. I don't use steam s can't say for sure but do you not have: My Documents > Sports Interactive > Football Manager 2011 > editor data if so, then there if not, please say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 I'm sure this is a daft question but with regards to having promotion from more than 1 league, how is this handled by the Blue Square North/South into the Blue Square Premier? It's a Scottish file, those divisions are English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
munrowil Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Thanks for your help, had to add the folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodro Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 It's a Scottish file, those divisions are English. Yea I know, sorry probably didn't make myself clear. It's just that this obviously has teams from 2 divisions being promoted into 1. So I was wondering if the Blue Square North/South are one big division split into 2 (think you said something about this above affecting cup competitions if it was to be done this way). Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yea I know, sorry probably didn't make myself clear.It's just that this obviously has teams from 2 divisions being promoted into 1. So I was wondering if the Blue Square North/South are one big division split into 2 (think you said something about this above affecting cup competitions if it was to be done this way). Cheers. Ok I see what you mean (I think). I'm not sure how BSN/S works to be honest. They're leagues that come 'hard coded'. If I wanted to recreate them I'd have to do it the way I've done the West Super League and East Super League set ups. The system I can apply for FM11 is much improved on FM10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Borghesi Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 For McCoy. I'm just trying to start a new game with your Scottish Football. On Mac ... i'm not able to do it. When i start to Setting up the database FM Crash. I try with and without your file and i can finally say that don't work on my FM. Could you help Me? Marco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 For McCoy.I'm just trying to start a new game with your Scottish Football. On Mac ... i'm not able to do it. When i start to Setting up the database FM Crash. I try with and without your file and i can finally say that don't work on my FM. Could you help Me? Marco Crashed for me as well on Vista, tried to load down to the lowest level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodro Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Ok I see what you mean (I think). I'm not sure how BSN/S works to be honest. They're leagues that come 'hard coded'. If I wanted to recreate them I'd have to do it the way I've done the West Super League and East Super League set ups. I see, didn't realise there was such a thing as hard coded leagues. The system I can apply for FM11 is much improved on FM10. Does this mean you'll be making further updates for FM11? What you've done is great as is. Would be good to have a pseudo-reality setup by having promotions to further up the ladder though and everything else left the same. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 For you guys unable to load, I assume you're not running this with any other Nation Rules and have installed the release day patch? I've just managed to load it fine so stumped as to why it won't work... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 I see, didn't realise there was such a thing as hard coded leagues. Does this mean you'll be making further updates for FM11? What you've done is great as is. Would be good to have a pseudo-reality setup by having promotions to further up the ladder though and everything else left the same. Cheers. Yes there will be further updates. And yes you can do what you suggest, you'd have to put each league in sub divisions though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 Should add, with my latest test (which adds 4 additional leagues) I did not get ANY league games generated in season two. So that's a problem that *may* exist with the file online... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.s Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 finally promotion/relegations between 3.div and lower leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.s Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Should add, with my latest test (which adds 4 additional leagues) I did not get ANY league games generated in season two. So that's a problem that *may* exist with the file online... yes seems to have a problem with that, have simulated to 2020 and only 1st season had league fixtures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.s Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 cmontheloknow: sent you a pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Ok guys a working file now online. Link is same as before. This is tested into season 2013-14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 A new version of the file is now available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Borghesi Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Have you got a change list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 Too much to mention to be honest, but I'm currently tidying up squads etc starting at top down, things that time just ran out on during research. Also, for realism, all teams now are set to a city that has a maternity, for more accurate places of birth (every player from Ayrshire has been born in Irvine for a good few decades for example, and Bellshill until 2000 served Lanarkshire it's now Wishaw I think but that wouldn't show in game for a good few years yet). I've also re-added the three Youth 21s associations and cups which is great fun (IMO). http://www.lanarkshireyouthfa.co.uk/Divisions http://www.seryfa-online.info/ http://www.west-of-scotland-21s-football-league.co.uk/ Next is to add in 19s competitions. I also have added in the Scottish FA Youth Cup. An awful lot of work in progress, lots of leagues, and many, many cups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Legendary stuff J. How's the HFL squads looking? Are they pretty complete in the game as it is or have you had to add in players? And is there a U21 or U18 HFL these days? Fancying a game with The Broch or my local team the Locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Can't get it to load Keeps crash dumping on my ass when starting the game off. EDIT: Got it to load. Any kind of Custom database caused the Crash Dump. Left it at Large and its loaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 interesting Cadijk, not sure why it's not loading - shall keep an eye. Highland squads are basically complete, still doing transfers though. Aberdeenshire sides play in the U21s league. Some from across the league play U19s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Cool, I'm on it now, did start with The Broch after all. Just humped Jimmy Calderwood's Camelon side 5-0 in a pre-season. I knew Good Old JC would find a job eventually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Borghesi Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 i'm the only one with problem with it if i use with other database? I have the new Uncle RON + Welsh 5 tier (Cadijk) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 28, 2010 Author Share Posted November 28, 2010 i'm the only one with problem with it if i use with other database?I have the new Uncle RON + Welsh 5 tier (Cadijk) Not sure Marco, I haven't used it with any others. However, I did so much work for FM10 I wasn't prepared to start again so it's a converted FM10 file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 28, 2010 Author Share Posted November 28, 2010 Cool, I'm on it now, did start with The Broch after all.Just humped Jimmy Calderwood's Camelon side 5-0 in a pre-season. I knew Good Old JC would find a job eventually Yeah he seems to turn up at quite low levels. He's Camelon on my current test save too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc-PTFC Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Got a crashdump when I merged this with my file of updated transfers. Anyone know how to get it to work properly, been spending ages getting these deals correct and want them to fit wi9th the juniors and that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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