ozgoz Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Can't believe it!! I've got Harrogate from the Blue Square Premier, to the Blue Square North, to League 2, to League 1, and last year lost in the play off final to get into the championship......by which time I've built up a bank balance of £1.2m only to find out that I've just been rinsed for £1,100,052.25, over a million quid to add 229 seats!!! Sounds like contract rigging to me! That's the amount I've got under expenditure for this month on ground maintenance, and I've checked the facilties and we still have basic youth, and poor corporate facilties. The only other thing we had done was had the pitch relayed because it was a bog but still - pitch relay and 229 seats cannot come to a million quid?! We charge £24 a ticket, so those 29 seats, if, and I do mean if, we fill them every game will generate £5,496 game, so to make back my million pound will take me 181 games! Say we play on average 25 home games a season, that's over SEVEN SEASONS to recoup my money! SACK THE BOARD?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Quite annoying and frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 stupid but perhaps to get those extra seats the cheapest thing was to demolish an entire stand and rebuild it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazzabee Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Whenever ive lost in a play-off final i didnt get promoted, maybe its just me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Sounds reasonable to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgoz Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 Sounds reasonable to me! Seriously, do you think?????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhinchliffe Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Whenever ive lost in a play-off final i didnt get promoted, maybe its just me! (10 character fail) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgoz Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Whenever ive lost in a play-off final i didnt get promoted, maybe its just me! don't be a wiseguy. fills the forums with junk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Definitely sack the board!!!! Ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishSteven Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I had it happen 2 seasons on the trot with Marine as well. Really frustrating... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Seriously, do you think?????? Absolutely. 7 seasons to recoup a stadium expansion is absolutely realistic, maybe even cheap. From season 8 on you will make profits only and forever. That's a good investment. Also, smaller expansions tend to be more expensive per seat. What I would rather question here is why they haven't done an expansion by 2000 or 3000 seat for 5m and take a loan for that. They should be able to see a return on that and the ground is then better prepared for the future. Also they should be aware that you will need this million now to strenghten the team. This is where I would question the AI while the figures seems perfectly realistic. Btw my club irl just expands the ground by 4000 seats for € 13m. Just compare. That's what it costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Seriously, do you think?????? Absolutely.7 seasons to recoup a stadium expansion is absolutely realistic, maybe even cheap. From season 8 on you will make profits only and forever. That's a good investment. Also, smaller expansions tend to be more expensive per seat. What I would rather question here is why they haven't done an expansion by 2000 or 3000 seat for 5m and take a loan for that. They should be able to see a return on that and the ground is then better prepared for the future. Also they should be aware that you will need this million now to strenghten the team. This is where I would question the AI while the figures seems perfectly realistic. Btw my club irl just expands the ground by 4000 seats for € 13m. Just compare. That's what it costs. I was joking but jayahr's logic is splendid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 TBF those 300 seats could be seats for the posh people hence why they are so expensive. Prawn sandwich brigade ftl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockStein1967 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Whenever ive lost in a play-off final i didnt get promoted, maybe its just me! Have you read yer post? Losing in a play-off final, doesn't get promotion. :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 He was responding to this comment in the OP "and last year lost in the play off final to get into the championship" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
impirion Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 That makes sense though. He is saying he is still in League 1 because he lost the playoff final. I am impressed how he went from Blue square premier down to north and then straight up to League 2 though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nielsvd Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 A possibility may be that a new ring needed to be added. If a Stadium needs a new ring, that costs alot of money. So when they charged you one milion, they probably charged you for the whole added ring, even though you only use a small part for the seats. Just my two cents! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What I'd see as a more serious issue here is not whether 229 seats would cost a million pounds or not but rather the fact that his board are willing to invest nearly all the money the club has for something that doesn't look like it will benefit them greatly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 TBF those 300 seats could be seats for the posh people hence why they are so expensive.Prawn sandwich brigade ftl. Beat me to it. Maybe they're made from velvet or crocodile skin or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Seems pretty realistic to me tbh, Not like you can just throw some plastic chairs onto the stands and bolt em down. the existing stand may not have been compatible with seating.. theres all sorts of reasons why it would have cost that much, or even more... trust me, im an architect, i know these things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm_macuser Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well, Im sure that the capacity of the ground wasnt all that much anyway. Maybe around 3000, with say 500 seated? In this case they are increasing the stadium size by around 8% and adding over 50% to the seated section. Depending on your average attendances this may be spot on. It's all relative. I agree it's a lot of money though, and could perhaps have been better used elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgoz Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 That makes sense though. He is saying he is still in League 1 because he lost the playoff final.I am impressed how he went from Blue square premier down to north and then straight up to League 2 though ha ha ha. TO ALL: obviously what I meant was started off in the Blue Square North, then went up to the Blue Square Premier, then up to League 2, then up to League 1, and then I got to the play off FOR the championship but LOST so I am still in league 1. not consecutively mind. over 10 seasons. But the topic is about stadium expansion anyway so who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Gold seats aren't cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedredtrucker Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 You must have hired the wembley contractors... oops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullion1 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 You must have hired the wembley contractors... oops! Impossible, it was done in the off season! The Wembley contractors would've taken until 2025! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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