Archy-91 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Obviously there is not official promotion to Division Three in Scotland, but recent events at Gretna have had me thinking. Due to Gretna's financial crisis, it looks like they might not be in the league next season, and apparently Spartan's are going to move into Division 3. So, especially if SI decided to make the lower leagues in Scotland playable (I know it's unlikely) and even if not, if a club goes into big financial trouble, then they should lose their place in the league, and move to the lowest playable Scottish league, with a team from the league below Division 3 (don't know how it's decided IRL, maybe most successful in recent times) goes up. I don't know how easy this would be to put in the game, but it's something that could add a bit of variety to Scottish management, which can be pretty tedious when there's so little promotion/relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archy-91 Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Obviously there is not official promotion to Division Three in Scotland, but recent events at Gretna have had me thinking. Due to Gretna's financial crisis, it looks like they might not be in the league next season, and apparently Spartan's are going to move into Division 3. So, especially if SI decided to make the lower leagues in Scotland playable (I know it's unlikely) and even if not, if a club goes into big financial trouble, then they should lose their place in the league, and move to the lowest playable Scottish league, with a team from the league below Division 3 (don't know how it's decided IRL, maybe most successful in recent times) goes up. I don't know how easy this would be to put in the game, but it's something that could add a bit of variety to Scottish management, which can be pretty tedious when there's so little promotion/relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Its a rare case though, it probably doesnt happen enough for Si to code it? IDK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 20, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 20, 2008 We don't have clubs going out of business in the game so this isn't likely to be a scenario that would be thrown up. The promotion / relegation thing is indeed frustrating. I would love a restructure with a pyramid system. But that is another topic for another day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunner Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I'd love for SI to open up promotion and relegation into the 3rd Division. Might not be realistic, but it does add variety. Like playing in the English leagues, 10 years into the game, you could have a whole new set of teams battling it out. But with the Scottish leagues, it'll be the exact same teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Well they can't put it in if it doesn't exist in real life, wouldn't make sense. There is no structure below the leagues that decides who should be promoted, it is by election only. Clearly if it was on merits of football played in Scotland, Gretna wouldn't have got in when Airdrie went bust, as they played in England at the time. Equally when Meadowbank were allowed in back in the 70's, they barely had a history then, the reasons were all very political. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenEagle16 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bermybhoy: the reasons were all very political. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> 'tis the problem with most elections... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18-WATP-73 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 im sure promotion to the scottish third division can be gained already without a team having to go bust. If im correct if a team finishes bottom of this division three years in a row then they are relageted and replaced with a lower league team East stirling only just survived this fate this season by 1 point. Has this already been implented in the game? Or are there plans to do so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 18-WATP-73: im sure promotion to the scottish third division can be gained already without a team having to go bust. If im correct if a team finishes bottom of this division three years in a row then they are relageted and replaced with a lower league team East stirling only just survived this fate this season by 1 point. Has this already been implented in the game? Or are there plans to do so? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> IIRC the rule is that IF a team such as The Shire finish bottom 3 years running, the SFA committee meets to decide whether to replace them or not - it's not automatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18-WATP-73 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 ah well that clears that up. Would still be a nice feature to have. Dont think we would see it happening too often though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archy-91 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 From Wiki : There is no direct relegation from the Scottish Third Division but since the 2005/06 season if a club finishes bottom for three successive seasons then they will have their full membership of the SFL suspended. The club will then play the next two seasons as a non-voting associate member after which the full members shall vote on the fate of the suspended club. I doubt this will be coded into the game, but it could be simplified, eg. If a team finished bottom 3 years in a row they get a message (if your managing them that is) saying that their membership has been suspended. If the team then finishes bottom or maybe just in the bottom 2 or 3 teams in the two following seasons, it is presumed the voting clubs have decided to relegate them from the Football League. I know it's a once in a blue moon occurance but still, it would be nice for people playing long-term games as it would then be more likely to take effect. Ultimately what we need is for the SFL to just offer relegation from division 3 to the lower tiers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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