Peacemaker7 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 We Were Once Great Database requirement- English League: League Two and Above Stage 1- Return to Glory The days of the yo-yo club are all but faded, and ex premiership clubs litter the championship and the leagues below. Man City have famously gone down two leagues only to come back up and under Stuart Pearce guidance nearly made into Europe. Take a former Premiership club (Derby, Sheffield United, Coventry, Barnsley, Oldham, etc) back to the Holy ground and stay there for two seasons. Note: If sacked during Stage 1 repeat with another club. Stage 2- The Pot of Gold at the End of the Rainbow Promotion to the Premiership is big for any club but especially to those who have not tasted it before. Teams like Barnsley, Wolves have tasted it only to go back down, Blackburn on the other hand won it and Wigan aren’t doing bad either. Take a club who have not played in the premiership (Plymouth, Crewe, etc) to the top flight and qualify for Europe Stage 3- From Massive to Just Big Although the Premiership is the place to be some teams have been unable to recapture their former domestic glories. Their fans still wait and all at premium prices. Take a Premiership side who has not won the League (Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton, etc) and win the League, the league cup, the FA Cup and the charity shield, whilst staying in the Premiership Note: If they have won the league during the game you may NOT manage them Stage 4- The Best League, but not the best clubs? The Premiership is without a doubt the best league in the world (Note: No, it isn't), so why aren’t we dominating the European Stage like we did back in the day. Liverpool proved that we can still do it. Win either the UFEA Cup or the European Cup with any British Club. Stage 5- Great Clubs, Crap Country Brazil’s dominance is fading as is France. Greece surprise win the Euro Champs rocked the International scene to it foundation. But what of the countries that have gone so agonizing close but have nothing to show for it. Take charge of a Country have not won the World Cup and take them to Glory in either competition Stage 6-Practise those penalties for God’s sake We gave them football, taught them the rules and then sat back as they kicked our bum all over the pitch. But Football has got to come home sometime. Hasn’t it? Win The World Cup with England. Bonus Stage- The First Great Team The First Great Team was Preston North End first completing the double at the end of the 19th Century. Now there just Crap! Return Preston North End to their past glory and Win the Double Notes: *A stage can only be counted as complete if you were managing the club at the start of the season (no club jumping in May!) *If sacked at any time during Stages 1-5 just repeat with another club *If a side has accomplished promotion/Won the League/won the World Cup during game play you may not take over them. *Stages 3 and 4 may be done at the same time, with the same team but both must be completed before moving on to Stage 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 We Were Once Great Database requirement- English League: League Two and Above Stage 1- Return to Glory The days of the yo-yo club are all but faded, and ex premiership clubs litter the championship and the leagues below. Man City have famously gone down two leagues only to come back up and under Stuart Pearce guidance nearly made into Europe. Take a former Premiership club (Derby, Sheffield United, Coventry, Barnsley, Oldham, etc) back to the Holy ground and stay there for two seasons. Note: If sacked during Stage 1 repeat with another club. Stage 2- The Pot of Gold at the End of the Rainbow Promotion to the Premiership is big for any club but especially to those who have not tasted it before. Teams like Barnsley, Wolves have tasted it only to go back down, Blackburn on the other hand won it and Wigan aren’t doing bad either. Take a club who have not played in the premiership (Plymouth, Crewe, etc) to the top flight and qualify for Europe Stage 3- From Massive to Just Big Although the Premiership is the place to be some teams have been unable to recapture their former domestic glories. Their fans still wait and all at premium prices. Take a Premiership side who has not won the League (Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton, etc) and win the League, the league cup, the FA Cup and the charity shield, whilst staying in the Premiership Note: If they have won the league during the game you may NOT manage them Stage 4- The Best League, but not the best clubs? The Premiership is without a doubt the best league in the world (Note: No, it isn't), so why aren’t we dominating the European Stage like we did back in the day. Liverpool proved that we can still do it. Win either the UFEA Cup or the European Cup with any British Club. Stage 5- Great Clubs, Crap Country Brazil’s dominance is fading as is France. Greece surprise win the Euro Champs rocked the International scene to it foundation. But what of the countries that have gone so agonizing close but have nothing to show for it. Take charge of a Country have not won the World Cup and take them to Glory in either competition Stage 6-Practise those penalties for God’s sake We gave them football, taught them the rules and then sat back as they kicked our bum all over the pitch. But Football has got to come home sometime. Hasn’t it? Win The World Cup with England. Bonus Stage- The First Great Team The First Great Team was Preston North End first completing the double at the end of the 19th Century. Now there just Crap! Return Preston North End to their past glory and Win the Double Notes: *A stage can only be counted as complete if you were managing the club at the start of the season (no club jumping in May!) *If sacked at any time during Stages 1-5 just repeat with another club *If a side has accomplished promotion/Won the League/won the World Cup during game play you may not take over them. *Stages 3 and 4 may be done at the same time, with the same team but both must be completed before moving on to Stage 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Even though I feel personally this challenge is way too long for the current game, still its good to see a new face coming to the fore and hopefully this will encourage others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 This was my favourite challenge. I reckon that I'll have a go at it soon Good job there Jack South Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell and Back Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by axeman: This was my favourite challenge. I reckon that I'll have a go at it soon Good job there Jack South </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Mine too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I like this one but BobBev's is excellent too I shall be making a return to FMS it seems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Nice challenge, Jack. Well done Just a reminder to people *official* challenge stories are not subject to the seven day rule Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'll sticky these for a week, then they live or die on their own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Can't believe i won (OK came second) Thank for everyone who voted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavericktango Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'll do this one in a bit but usuing up all my creative talents on my new belarus story at moment. Will start this one when that's established. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell and Back Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 You Might Call Me Crazy - But We're All Crazy! My attempt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Right i guess as it my challenge, i 've got to open a post about. enjoy Blast from the Past (Hopefully this works) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Blast From the Past Right now it should work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavericktango Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 You Rrrrrrr's my attempt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Weell, thanks to Jack South's blessing, here is my attempt at this challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gricehead Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Although it pains me greatly to write about most of the teams eligible for this challenge, I've gone for the closest to home (ignoring the f*wls - you'd have to kidnap my family to get me to play as them on FM ) So I bring you: What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? NOW! May it sail safely on the seas of FMS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadessico Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 silly Q but can we actually use Preston in the first stage (i only ask cause the final part needs preston too) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadessico Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 bah forget the post i just noticed a list of clubs in the off topic thread (may be an idea to post it here) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Good point, Nadessico. As posted by mavericktango in the off topic thread: For those of you wishing to do this challenge, there are 19 clubs which qualify for Stage one (or possibly 18) Crystal Palace – relegated in 92/93, 97/98, 04/05 Notts Forest – relegated in 92/93, 96/97, 98/99 Sheffield United – relegated in 93/94 Oldham Athletic – relegated in 93/94 Swindon Town – relegated in 93/94 Norwich City – relegated in 94/95, 04/05 Leicester City – relegated – 94/95, 01/02, o3/04, Ipswich Town – relegated in 94/95, o1/02 Queens Park Rangers – relegated in 95/96 Barnsley – relegated in 97/98 Watford - relegated in 99/00 Sheffield Wednesday – relegated in 99/00 Wimbledon - relegated in 99/00 Bradford City - relegated in 00/01 Coventry City – relegated in 00/01 Derby County - relegated in o1/02 Leeds United - relegated in o3/04 Wolverhampton - relegated in o3/04 Southampton – relegated in o4/05 2002/2003 is the only year that all three teams returned to stay in the premier league Wimbledon – if anyone wanted to do the challenge with them, I suppose Jack South would have to rule if MK Dons or a editor swapped into EC (south) AFC Wimbledon would be acceptable. *Note: Jack has indicated that either of these options would be acceptable* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Would Sunderland qualify for Stage 1 as they were relegated in 03/04 I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Seems like the would Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavericktango Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BobBev: Would Sunderland qualify for Stage 1 as they were relegated in 03/04 I think? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I put the years each team was relegated because of the different editions of CM / FM that people are using. But we need a ruling of whether it is out of the premier in your version of CM/FM or out of the premier now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mavericktango: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BobBev: Would Sunderland qualify for Stage 1 as they were relegated in 03/04 I think? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I put the years each team was relegated because of the different editions of CM / FM that people are using. But we need a ruling of whether it is out of the premier in your version of CM/FM or out of the premier now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes, exactly. Jack - a decision please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 If your version of Football manager/ Championship manager starts with Sunderland outside the top flight you may pick them for stage 1. But only if the version is after Sunderland have been relegated from the premiership. So FM05-Yes FM06-No The only way you can play as sunderland is if they get relegated and you are sacked from your job. The above goes for any other team you can think of that have yo yo between divison God this decision lark tiring, but please don't be afraid to ask Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavericktango Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 KUTGW Jack! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Jack-Do you have to apply and be appointed when you got through the stages or can you freely take over a club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 For purposes of story writing i would prefer that people apply and be appointed for jobs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 As many poeple are now started this challenge i decided that it might be worthwhile keeping a log (at this time) of where everyone is with links SO Stage 1 Myself(obviously)(swindon) Blast from the Past Ell and Back (MK Dons)You might call me Crazy but we're all crazy Mavericktango (unknown )You Rrrrrrr's poyplemonkeys BarnsleyThe tale of a true Yorkshire pudding Gricehead Sheffield UnitedWhat do we want? when do we want it! When do we want it NOW! Nadessico Leeds UnitedBack to the future part XII I'll try to update this as often as necessary, but to make my job easier can all new challenger please post a link on this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadessico Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 meh i forgot to post my link, that was the sole reason i asked how to post urls with names lol thanks anyway jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 No worries mate as you can see from my earlier attempt i didn't know how to either Good luck with your story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Johnston Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I've decided to start this challenge: Living in a Crystal Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavericktango Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 to put in a link, click on the URL button just above the message body in the reply box. this produces a drop down box - first space you copy and paste the url to and second space you put the title of the link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadessico Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 hmmm i'm not sure if its good or bad that i'm the only person to get to the actual season matches so far :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm into the season matches. I just decided to post only once or twice a day and playing that slow would kill me. Therefore I'm writing it up in word and then just pasting it once or twice a day into my story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nadessico: hmmm i'm not sure if its good or bad that i'm the only person to get to the actual season matches so far :s </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not true Gricehead is well into his first season with the Blades and going from strength to strength after a patchy start. Myself on the other hand am only at the end of July as writing the start to my story as taken longer than i've spent playing so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gricehead Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jack South: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nadessico: hmmm i'm not sure if its good or bad that i'm the only person to get to the actual season matches so far :s </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not true Gricehead is well into his first season with the Blades and going from strength to strength after a patchy start. Myself on the other hand am only at the end of July as writing the start to my story as taken longer than i've spent playing so far. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Indeed. And we've just taken our first Premiership scalp \o/ Oh, and you might want to check the title of my story in the log, Jack, it's not quite right. Not that it really matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavericktango Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm just about to start the season proper but like Jack the intro writing has taken a while plus of course the two other stories I have got on the go as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell and Back Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I'm a good two months into my season too. Not had time to have a whole night of playing yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 By playing till two last night and playing another 3 hours this morning before work i've managed to get up to the end of August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 up till two this morning as well, not playing but writing. Finally written up to the 10th July 2,500 words later. At this rate i might make the start of the league season in under 10,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Would Stoke City count as a valid team in this challenge. After all, they used to be in the old 1st division and caused me to support Liverpool when they lost 3-5 to the Reds at home. That was back in the early seventies though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by axeman: Would Stoke City count as a valid team in this challenge. After all, they used to be in the old 1st division and caused me to support Liverpool when they lost 3-5 to the Reds at home. That was back in the early seventies though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Seeing as Jack talks about Liverpool being one of the sides never to have won the leauge (18 times) I assume this is purely Premiership based, so Stoke wouldn't qualify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Yeah, axeman Turk is correct Stoke are not a valid team selection for stage 1, only for Stage 2 and Stage 3 and 4 if they are in the premiership at the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 For a full list of team available for stage 1 you'll find somewhere on Page 1 of this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Thanks guys, I had already seen that list. I just wanted to make sure that I hadn't gotten the wrong idea before starting a division that would never count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I decided to dive in with Dancing with Wolves or was it bears? To be honest I don't harbour any grand expectations, but it will be a fun ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkybradley Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hi Guys this is my attempt at the challenge and also my first story. Hope you enjoy Q.P.R. New Manager New Challenges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack South Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thought that might be a challenge, anyway good luck to you and you as Axeman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Cheers Jack. I'm a bit lost for ideas at the moment, but I'll keep going with that story on the weekend I reckon. I'm so damn busy working my way through the other story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkybradley Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I didn't start it as the challenge didn't notice that until after I had started or would have mentioned it in the title. After reading the challenge I thought that sounds fun and lucky for me q.p.r are one of the teams you can use. Love the Swindon story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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