Robert Lewandowski nerf?

We consistently and continuously look at players as they progress. It's entirely possible that players receive changes in certain areas, and of course this accounts for top players too.

I'm not responsible for Benzema, but I would say he has been improving, especially since his issues whereas Lewandowski has not become a better player after his record breaking season. Perhaps he lost a bit of his edge after he decided he wanted to leave Bayern. This was a bit of a trend with a few more of the players where it looked a bit more difficult at times than before. Lewandowski definitely had several moments where he was a bit more tentative - like for example Messi, where he'd lack in his defensive duties and overall teamplay. One player is not the other player.

With that in mind he's still fantastic and he's the 2nd or 3rd best striker in Europe. (Maybe we need to count Haaland) - so please go and enjoy the game and have him Lewangoalski for you. Arriba el Lewa!

 

 

"Perhaps he lost a bit of his edge after he decided he wanted to leave Bayern" 

"Lewandowski definitely had several moments where he was a bit more tentative" 

ok, but -4 Teamwork and -6 Work Rate? maybe a -2,-3, but -6?!?!

but it was clear to me, this is what i wanted to read, everything i thought was confirmed.

I already know where you're going, it's not the first time that a very marked change has happened when a player goes to or leaves Barcelona.

especially in the physical part, just to not extend this conversation any longer, De Jong may leave Barcelona in the future, and I already know what will happen to his stamina and natural fitness, especially if he goes to the Premier League.

Thank you for your attention.

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by higofagundes

 

Hi, thanks for the feedback

If you look closely at Lewandowski, his overall ability has not really changed all that much and he is overall still one of the 5 or so best players in the world, but not the single best player in the world (as some might have considered him to be when he would've won the Ballon d'Or in the year Bayern won the CL or he scored over 40 goals in the league).

Benzema on the other hand got an upgrade after his amazing season, in which he almost single-handedly carried Madrid to the CL and even won the Ballon d'Or.

So it's pretty fair to have both players on basically the same level.

 

Over the last few months, among with a whole host of other players at Bayern, Lewandowski got a slight downgrade due to the team's (for their standards) disappointing season. And Lewandowski himself was not able to carry-on his basically super-human form of 41 goals in 28 league starts.

And as Jeroen said, especially in the last few months (and generally after Flick left Bayern), of his tenure at Bayern, he didn't always commit himself to the fullest, especially when Bayern did not have the ball, hence the downgrades in Work Rate and Team Work.

Whereas his pressing and overall buying into the team ethos have dropped off, he has become more focused on his movements, hence for example his Anticipation and Off The Ball went up, which are far more important for the type of player he is.

If you watch him play, he doesn't go chasing after the ball etc out of possession, but rather looks to conserve energy to be as decisive in the box as possible. 

 

Greetings and enjoy the game!

9 minutos atrás, Dominic10 disse:

 

Hi, thanks for the feedback

If you look closely at Lewandowski, his overall ability has not really changed all that much and he is overall still one of the 5 or so best players in the world, but not the single best player in the world (as some might have considered him to be when he would've won the Ballon d'Or in the year Bayern won the CL or he scored over 40 goals in the league).

Benzema on the other hand got an upgrade after his amazing season, in which he almost single-handedly carried Madrid to the CL and even won the Ballon d'Or.

So it's pretty fair to have both players on basically the same level.

 

Over the last few months, among with a whole host of other players at Bayern, Lewandowski got a slight downgrade due to the team's (for their standards) disappointing season. And Lewandowski himself was not able to carry-on his basically super-human form of 41 goals in 28 league starts.

And as Jeroen said, especially in the last few months (and generally after Flick left Bayern), of his tenure at Bayern, he didn't always commit himself to the fullest, especially when Bayern did not have the ball, hence the downgrades in Work Rate and Team Work.

Whereas his pressing and overall buying into the team ethos have dropped off, he has become more focused on his movements, hence for example his Anticipation and Off The Ball went up, which are far more important for the type of player he is.

If you watch him play, he doesn't go chasing after the ball etc out of possession, but rather looks to conserve energy to be as decisive in the box as possible. 

 

Greetings and enjoy the game!

like a said: ok, but -4, -6?!?!  is he in depression?!?!

"If you watch him play, he doesn't go chasing after the ball etc out of possession, but rather looks to conserve energy to be as decisive in the box as possible."

no, you're not watching the games to say that, for those watching the barcelona games it's impossible to think like that without being biased.

Edited October 22, 2022 by higofagundes

11 minutes ago, higofagundes said:

like a said: ok, but -4, -6?!?!  is he in depression?!?!

"If you watch him play, he doesn't go chasing after the ball etc out of possession, but rather looks to conserve energy to be as decisive in the box as possible."

no, you're not watching the games to say that, for those watching the barcelona games it's impossible to think like that without being biased.

We have watched him for several years in Germany and he has been rated as he was there. We have no interest in Barcelona. (Or disinterest)
There is no reason to adjust him by a lot currently, he is pretty much on a similar level as he was- any minor adjustment will only be subjective, if it appears he is a better or worse player for a longer period over time, the Spanish research team can make appropriate changes, and that's final.

vor 1 Minute schrieb higofagundes:

like a said: ok, but -6, -6?!?!  is he in depression?!?!

"If you watch him play, he doesn't go chasing after the ball etc out of possession, but rather looks to conserve energy to be as decisive in the box as possible."

no, you're not watching the games to say that, for those watching the barcelona games it's impossible to think like that without being biased.

The changes to his Work Rate and Team Work had already been done months ago, when he was playing for Bayern and there wasn't even any speculation about him leaving or anything of that sorts. 

And what you must understand is that not every attribute counts the same, they are weighted differently for each position.

For example as a striker 6 points of Team Work could be the same as 1 point of Off The Ball. So his ability would stay the same, just his stats would be spread out differently.

 

But if you truly believe he has significantly changed his game and become more involved in pressing etc. again after leaving Bayern, then that would be something to discuss with the Spanish Research Team. 

But remember, an increase in TR / WR would require a downgrade in some area (perhaps something more important for his game), so be careful what you wish for  

 

 

hace 3 horas, higofagundes dijo:

like a said: ok, but -4, -6?!?!  is he in depression?!?!

"If you watch him play, he doesn't go chasing after the ball etc out of possession, but rather looks to conserve energy to be as decisive in the box as possible."

no, you're not watching the games to say that, for those watching the barcelona games it's impossible to think like that without being biased.

Don't worry, our Barça researcher will adjust the attributes if neccesary for the winter patch. And I assure you he's not biased against Barça xD.