Full Match Engine (FME) and Quick Match Engine (QME) Statistics

 A couple of these aren't bugs:
- Header won % is a bit higher because it counts uncontested headers in the box, where there's a win but no loss.
- Possession won is lower than loss because there's ways to lose possession unforced e.g. putting a pass out of play.

Other issues have been noted and will be reviewed by the QA team but are fairly minor on the whole.

QME will never be 100% same as FME I'm afraid to say. 

Hopefully that's cleared it up for you, really appreciate the detail you went into. 

@mhaffy slightly off topic but just want to add that you dont need QME and FME values to be the same to make scouting effective. You should only be comparing a player to the league he is in and the quality of the league he is in compared to yours and thankfully when scouting players they give a octagon graph comparison of a player to the rest of their league.

Even in real life stats vary widely between leagues so you have to look at how a player compares to the rest of the league they are in and take into account the quality of their league.

Obvs the FME and QME being more consistent would be very good but just remember that your scouting based on stats can still be effective.

1 hour ago, Platinum said:

@mhaffy slightly off topic but just want to add that you dont need QME and FME values to be the same to make scouting effective. You should only be comparing a player to the league he is in and the quality of the league he is in compared to yours and thankfully when scouting players they give a octagon graph comparison of a player to the rest of their league.

Even in real life stats vary widely between leagues so you have to look at how a player compares to the rest of the league they are in and take into account the quality of their league.

Obvs the FME and QME being more consistent would be very good but just remember that your scouting based on stats can still be effective.

I agree with what you say and scouting on stats can still be effective. The point I was trying to convey is that significant differences between stats produced by FME Vs QME will limit the players that appear (based on your search criteria) who you may then decide to scout further. By way of example, at end of my 21/22 season at Chelsea Pulisic topped Key passes/90 with 4.29 and Callum Hudson Odoi was 2nd with 3.09. Their respective Passes Completed/90 stats were 30.99 and 33.78 based upon FME. If as part of a search for players with similar stats I set Key Passes/90 to be at least 3 and Passes Completed/90 to be at least 30 then only 31 players appeared that met these criteria for possible further scouting. However, only 7 of these 31 possibles were from QME leagues - consistent with my observations at 8) in initial post.

If the FME/QME stats for Key Passes/90 and Passes Completed/90 were more closely aligned then my search would have produced a larger selection of possibles for me to look into further.

6 hours ago, mhaffy said:

I agree with what you say and scouting on stats can still be effective. The point I was trying to convey is that significant differences between stats produced by FME Vs QME will limit the players that appear (based on your search criteria) who you may then decide to scout further. By way of example, at end of my 21/22 season at Chelsea Pulisic topped Key passes/90 with 4.29 and Callum Hudson Odoi was 2nd with 3.09. Their respective Passes Completed/90 stats were 30.99 and 33.78 based upon FME. If as part of a search for players with similar stats I set Key Passes/90 to be at least 3 and Passes Completed/90 to be at least 30 then only 31 players appeared that met these criteria for possible further scouting. However, only 7 of these 31 possibles were from QME leagues - consistent with my observations at 8) in initial post.

If the FME/QME stats for Key Passes/90 and Passes Completed/90 were more closely aligned then my search would have produced a larger selection of possibles for me to look into further.

Yeah that's a really good point, i didnt think of that

Thanks for doing this analysis. I'm glad they fixed dribbles in the QME. I quit playing FM21 when I noticed some of the stats, like dribbles, were so inaccurate.

On 27/10/2021 at 05:46, Rosey Palmer said:

Thanks for doing this analysis. I'm glad they fixed dribbles in the QME. I quit playing FM21 when I noticed some of the stats, like dribbles, were so inaccurate.

Agreed re dribbling; pleased too that improvements also made by SI since FM21 to other areas. Hopefully there will be progress in some of the areas that still need addressing when the full game is released.

Passing % completion being too high (particularly for poorer teams with lots of passes being made between DC etc) has been flagged in several Bug Tracker threads and, like this thread, are flagged as being "Under Review" This is consistent with stats from my tests with the Pass Completion % spread (between Best and Worst teams) being too narrow, versus Real World, for both FME and QME.