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    zeza
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    Hey there! Been playing for 200ish hours already and scouting doesn't seem to work for me.

    I've loaded all leagues, detail level set at Continental, database players set as almost every option at every continent. 

    So when I try to scout for 15-23 (Age), 5* Gray CA, 3* PA, my scouts doesn't seem to find ANYONE in ANY country. I'm attaching the game file as well as some screenshoots proving that I'm scouting a lot of countries at the same time.

     

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    Em 16/03/2024 em 16:25, wazzaflow10 disse:

    if you're scouting "any" (again meaning world - or in Sunderland's case all available regions board allows you to scout) area

    I only had the English package, so that's why it happened to only find English teams players'.

     

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    2 hours ago, zeza said:

    I only had the English package, so that's why it happened to only find English teams players'.

     

    Sure I figured that. But for a global team "any" would be the entire world. That seems horribly inefficient and a good way to overwork scouts and/or not get good coverage.

    A good test would be if there's a difference between any and England (or UK not sure which) for that save. In theory there shouldn't be.

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    Just an example of how blind we are with the current scouting "rules". He wouldn't show up at all until he's 18 and "interested". I'm not asking that we be able to sign 16 year olds to precontracts, just want to know what players exist via scouting whether they're 16 or 35.

    https://www.marca.com/en/football/manchester-city/2024/03/18/65f85e61e2704ef7218b4567.html

    I know there's no 14 year olds in the game but if big teams are tracking young players this early there's no reason we shouldn't be getting scouting reports either for older, established players. Obviously there should be a very, very wide unknown PA factor for someone so young.

     

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    Still no updates on this? In these last 5 months I started careers with Lyon and N.E.C. Both scouting worked fine. I now tried another save with Juventus for the 5th time. I have 11 different scouts to different regions of which they have knowledge. The only demands I added to the focuses are age between 15 and 27, 1 gold star current level and 1 gold star potential level. I have had 0 recommendations in the first 7 months of the career. 

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    Thinking along the lines of a tweak here - there seems to be two key factors that limit the players that are scouted/recommended. The first is the ability of the player and the second is the interested of the player.

    I would propose something along the lines of the recruitment focus set up being something like this:

    The CA/PA stars handle the quality of the player. If you only want to get players that can play or potentially play for Arsenal or Man City then you can adjust them here. If you want a broader assignment then reducing the stars would provide loads of useless players. This currently exists though I'm not entirely sure it functions as it appears in the UI screen. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it does.

    A new addition would be using the interest level widget we see on the scouting page that ranges from Very interested to Doubtful/Dubious/None. When selecting the recruitment focus we can use this to also filter out players who have interest or lack of interest in joining. Setting it to None would provide the widest range of players while very interested would be the most narrow.

    I think the default would be the game as is. Players who are interested in joining as well as possess the requisite ability to contribute. I think that provides the new user/speed scouter play styles sufficiently. For those of us who want to be more hands on, allowing the focus to be more open and direct who is scouted more directly by the current mechanism of acknowledge (defer), keep scouting, or discard in reports would be more satisfactory. It would also create enough volume that the wonderkid hunters would have to trawl through a load of reports or just empty recommendation focuses to find obscure wonderkids.

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    On 23/05/2024 at 17:50, wazzaflow10 said:

    Thinking along the lines of a tweak here - there seems to be two key factors that limit the players that are scouted/recommended. The first is the ability of the player and the second is the interested of the player.

    I would propose something along the lines of the recruitment focus set up being something like this:

    The CA/PA stars handle the quality of the player. If you only want to get players that can play or potentially play for Arsenal or Man City then you can adjust them here. If you want a broader assignment then reducing the stars would provide loads of useless players. This currently exists though I'm not entirely sure it functions as it appears in the UI screen. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it does.

    A new addition would be using the interest level widget we see on the scouting page that ranges from Very interested to Doubtful/Dubious/None. When selecting the recruitment focus we can use this to also filter out players who have interest or lack of interest in joining. Setting it to None would provide the widest range of players while very interested would be the most narrow.

    I think the default would be the game as is. Players who are interested in joining as well as possess the requisite ability to contribute. I think that provides the new user/speed scouter play styles sufficiently. For those of us who want to be more hands on, allowing the focus to be more open and direct who is scouted more directly by the current mechanism of acknowledge (defer), keep scouting, or discard in reports would be more satisfactory. It would also create enough volume that the wonderkid hunters would have to trawl through a load of reports or just empty recommendation focuses to find obscure wonderkids.

    Great solution - this would completely fix it for me.

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