Red Star Belgrade Reserve Team Issue

RFK Grafičar is not a B team of Crvena zvezda.During this summer I had a talk with a few people who works in the club,and all of them have the same opinion,Grafičar is not B team.

-If they were B team,then Crvena zvezda wouldn't try so hard to put FSS on pressure with double registration rule.

-If you have access to Comet system by FSS,you'll see that all players from Crvena zvezda in Grafičar are on loan.Same thing you can find on Crvena zvezda site when there's a text about loans.

-If we put Grafičar as B team that would mean that more than 15 Grafičar players are in contract with Crvena Zvezda wich is not even close to reality.

-At this point OFK Beograd in reality is more B team than Grafičar,but that's simply can't happen by many other rules and facts.

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by BajaHater

5 hours ago, BajaHater said:

RFK Grafičar is not a B team of Crvena zvezda.During this summer I had a talk with a few people who works in the club,and all of them have the same opinion,Grafičar is not B team.

-If they were B team,then Crvena zvezda wouldn't try so hard to put FSS on pressure with double registration rule.

-If you have access to Comet system by FSS,you'll see that all players from Crvena zvezda in Grafičar are on loan.Same thing you can find on Crvena zvezda site when there's a text about loans.

-If we put Grafičar as B team that would mean that more than 15 Grafičar players are in contract with Crvena Zvezda wich is not even close to reality.

-At this point OFK Beograd in reality is more B team than Grafičar,but that's simply can't happen by many other rules and facts.

 

Thanks for clarifying this. Now I understand it's not a bug. Although it worked like I described in Fm23. I guess it was an error then which was now fixed. Unfortunately for me. I guess Red Star is not what I am looking for then. Will play with Partizan instead which does seem to have a reserve team in lower league to which I can send players freely. 

5 hours ago, crusadertsar said:

Thanks for clarifying this. Now I understand it's not a bug. Although it worked like I described in Fm23. I guess it was an error then which was now fixed. Unfortunately for me. I guess Red Star is not what I am looking for then. Will play with Partizan instead which does seem to have a reserve team in lower league to which I can send players freely. 

Few years back there was a limit of loans,so only way to sort that out was to create Grafičar as B team.Now,when there's no limit on loans for players under21 (all Zvezda guys in Grafičar are under 20-21) I've decide to cut that.

Partizan/Teleoptik and TSC/Bajša are only two teams with real B  teams.

Graficar is not a B team simply because they are eligable to play Super League if they qualify. But i think you could send players to Graficar simply by Move to affiliate - Graficar.

5 minutes ago, Duke™ said:

Graficar is not a B team simply because they are eligable to play Super League if they qualify. But i think you could send players to Graficar simply by Move to affiliate - Graficar.

Yeah I know but it's not ideal. I was looking for a set up similar to Benfica or Braga or Real Sociedad where you control tactics of the affiliate team and control its staff and players fully. And that team wouldn't be able to play in the same league as parent club. Same as Jong Ajax too. 

Edited October 22, 2023 by crusadertsar

But its weird because I remember that in FM23 and FM22 Graficar couldn't play in the same league as Red Star. So guess it was a recent development.

21 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:

But its weird because I remember that in FM23 and FM22 Graficar couldn't play in the same league as Red Star. So guess it was a recent development.

True, but from end of last season/start of this one, they "broke" partnership, but Red Star still sends youngsters to them, and they have like 4,5 veterans and rest are Red Star youngsters, or Graficar Youngsters. Similar story is between Red Star and OFK from this summer, son of Red Star director is director in OFK and Red Star aids them financially, but ther also are not B team. Red Star doesnt have a B team.

42 minutes ago, Duke™ said:

Graficar is not a B team simply because they are eligable to play Super League if they qualify. But i think you could send players to Graficar simply by Move to affiliate - Graficar.

Actually no they are not eligible to play in Super League. See this is screen I'm looking at now. It's in the last line at bottom.

So I'm really confused now. Are they a B Team or not?

Edited October 22, 2023 by crusadertsar

6 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:

Actually no they are not eligible to play in Super League. See this is screen I'm looking at now. It's in the last line at bottom.

So I'm really confused now. Are they a B Team or not?

I dont know if you can translate this Grafičar sutra igra baraž za Superligu: Ako se plasiramo u najviši rang, prekida se saradnja sa Zvezdom - Sportal (blic.rs)

Bassicly it says they player something like play off for Super League, and if they won they would terminate link between clubs.(they lost) Its complicated situation in criminal country :D. So clubs work together but not with some official link...I dont know how would SI make that. Maybe that link cuts when Graficar actualy qualify for Super League, i dont know.

2 minutes ago, Duke™ said:

I dont know if you can translate this Grafičar sutra igra baraž za Superligu: Ako se plasiramo u najviši rang, prekida se saradnja sa Zvezdom - Sportal (blic.rs)

Bassicly it says they player something like play off for Super League, and if they won they would terminate link between clubs.(they lost) Its complicated situation in criminal country :D. So clubs work together but not with some official link...I dont know how would SI make that. Maybe that link cuts when Graficar actualy qualify for Super League, i dont know.

No how this works in the game right now is that Graficar simply cannot advance into Super League even if they win their league. Thats how its coded right now. So guess its an error in the game that does not reflect reality. 

6 hours ago, crusadertsar said:

No how this works in the game right now is that Graficar simply cannot advance into Super League even if they win their league. Thats how its coded right now. So guess its an error in the game that does not reflect reality. 

I'll have a look and see if it's possible to fix that error for full game.Even they are in 3rd group of total 4 groups predicted for moving to Superliga.