StandardFan Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Name: Steven Defour Age: 21 Club: Standard de Liège Still one of the best players in Belgium. Could make it to the subtop, maybe top of a good foreign competition. Anyone got him in FM already? What are you using him for? Advanced playmaker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandardFan Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Defour in 2015 Seems he didnt get any good training, his stats didnt change much. He plays with AC Milan here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Superb player because of his mental stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullem Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 in the demo, as im too skint to get ther full game yet, i got him for like £15M for liverpool (as i had a pathetic transfer budget so put it on 48month installments, not going to matter on the demo though ). And i put him in CM with Hamsik alongside him and Mascherano just behind, worked wonders, he scored a screamer for me against villa first game of the season which won the game for us 2-1, and has got 7 so far (early december, so demo will finish soon ). he's definately capable of playing for liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aston_martin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Defour is the captain of my Villa side in 2012. Awesome player once you untrain the plays short, simple passes PPM, either play him as a deep lying playmaker, advanced playmaker or box-to-box midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braundjoh Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Chelsea have him on mine, but he's rotting in their reserves. Actually he's transfer listed for £4 million, after they signed him for £10+ million. Good business sense. Would be interesting to see how good he is with human training and match experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 His mental stats remind me of players like Moutinho, and Flamini (in FM09, haven't checked him on FM10). Great player, but always seems to cost a bomb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aston_martin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 An excellent way to play Defour is to play him as an Advanced playmaker, and just set everything to mixed, let his excellent mental stats dictate the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blurps11 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Awesome player once you untrain the plays short, simple passes PPM In my save he outright refuses to drop it The passing related PPMs seem to be a bit fishy in general, I've been having issues with getting central midfielders with good passing and creativity to learn the killer balls PPM for the last three or four editions of FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aston_martin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 In my save he outright refuses to drop it The passing related PPMs seem to be a bit fishy in general, I've been having issues with getting central midfielders with good passing and creativity to learn the killer balls PPM for the last three or four editions of FM. Yeah, I had to ask him about 6 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLaisne Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 His mental stats remind me of players like Moutinho, and Flamini (in FM09, haven't checked him on FM10). Great player, but always seems to cost a bomb! He cost me £3.2 mill in November of the first season. You have to unsettle him until Standard have no choice but to get rid of a want away captain. The transfer system in fm10 is the most realistic i've played. Unsettling players is so important now, just like in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristoaster Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I got him for free on mine (expired contract, yeeeahh) but am struggling to work out what to play him best as. He'd be an ideal deep-lying playermaker or ball-winning midfielder if only his tackling wasn't 9 : -/ advanced playmaker maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Deep-lying playmaker, aslong as you have a sitting DM to tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinu Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Unsettling players is so important now, just like in real life. Whats the best way to unsettle a player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGblue Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Defour is the captain of my Villa side in 2012. Awesome player once you untrain the plays short, simple passes PPM, either play him as a deep lying playmaker, advanced playmaker or box-to-box midfielder. how much? he sounds great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 how much?he sounds great He cost me 12M at the end of the first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLaisne Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Whats the best way to unsettle a player? Comment on their potential, Praise their current ability, and declare that you are interested in buying them. Every few months enquire about them, I have found this has unsettled the ambitious youngsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reillyg Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 How can I get Defour to drop his plays simple pass PPM? I have asked him several times but he keeps refusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Just keep trying, as frustrating as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 i bought him for milan for 15m and he's my replacement for pirlo (advanced playmaker at MC) and he plays very well. lots of great passes and also some goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutontown1991 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Just signed him for 10 million with Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeesh Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Wow you got him for a bargain price then. Anyway i think i have paid the highest amount for him. I am with Valencia in my 3rd season and i bought him from Inter where he was a key player. He cost me 30 Mill Pounds. Actually dissapointed to see his stats didnt change in 2015 in one of the posts of the thread. Lets hope with the opportunities and training he develops into a fine player. He is only 23 in my game and has enough of time ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeesh Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Keeps refusing to drop his simple passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I signed Defour for Sevilla and was wondering how people get him to perform. He is struggling a bit and I am not sure what his best role is, it could just be the settling in that is holding him back a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aston_martin Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I usually play him as a CM support. Does well for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Try to get him to unlearn that PPM of plays short passes. What have you set him up as? I'd play him as advanced playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevrin Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Use him as deep lying playmaker at CM for my Man Utd team and his good performance eventually push Carrick to the bench. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObaMartins09 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Try to get him to unlearn that PPM of plays short passes. Why? It's just a "preferred move". It doesn't meant that's all he'll do. If you set him up with direct passing and lots of through balls he'll still do really well. People take PPM's with too much importance, they are only what they prefer to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebraid Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I got him for free with Valencia, had a good half season then roma bid £19.25m and activated his release clause, was gutted but still a good profit in such a short time... I learnt my lesson and now remember to check all release clauses when offering contracts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckaDuck Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 In my Standard Liege save, I've been using him as a Box-to-Box midielder wth great success. I'm playing him alongside Witsel and they've led me on a 8 match winning streak (including a win over barca at Camp Nou). He is a class above in the Belgian League and it will be tough keeping him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebanumut Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Secretly in love with the dude for years,always try to buy him,can come cheap in 3rd or 4th season,great playmaker and box to box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Does anyone know if he has a preffered number, because when he arrived I'm fairly sure he didn't. I gave him 25 and a month later its his preferred number? I could have just forgotten it being that way though. Anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aretak Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 25 was his preferred number when I signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 25 was his preferred number when I signed him. Thanks, must have just missed it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeesh Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Bought him in two different games, really didnt impressive or improve much. He is a good organizer but if you are looking for someone with cutting passes and killer balls he is not your guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Bought him in two different games, really didnt impressive or improve much. He is a good organizer but if you are looking for someone with cutting passes and killer balls he is not your guy. Yes he is. Deep lying playmaker supreme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo_rooney Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Never bought him 'cos of his lack of technical ability, although I do manage a large club, so I guess he'd be ok for a 'lesser' club. His mental attributes are amazing but I feel he lacks the technical skill to carry what his football brain is telling him. Maybe I'm wrong, I have heard many people saying he is amazing, but for what clubs and in which leagues, as there are certanly better MCs around IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Yes he is. Deep lying playmaker supreme. Why would you play someone so bad at tackling as a deep lying playmaker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo_rooney Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Because they are/would be a playmaker not a defensive ball winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Because they are/would be a playmaker not a defensive ball winner "Although primarily a creative player, the deep-lying playmaker also has to be competent in the art of defence" Defour cannot tackle well... Why would you play him in this role instead of advanced playmaker role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhroX Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 "Although primarily a creative player, the deep-lying playmaker also has to be competent in the art of defence"Defour cannot tackle well... Why would you play him in this role instead of advanced playmaker role? Depends on the tactic. In my current Ajax game I've got Defour (signed him on a free a year or so ago ) and while I usually use him as an AMC (in a 4-2-3-1), if my first choice DLP is injured I drop him back there and he does fine. Probably cos he's got a ball winning midfielder alongside him to cover the tacking side of things. If your DLP is your only deep midfielder, I can't see him doing that well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruderic Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Depends on the tactic. In my current Ajax game I've got Defour (signed him on a free a year or so ago ) and while I usually use him as an AMC (in a 4-2-3-1), if my first choice DLP is injured I drop him back there and he does fine. Probably cos he's got a ball winning midfielder alongside him to cover the tacking side of things. If your DLP is your only deep midfielder, I can't see him doing that well. Yes, you can use him as deep laying playmaker, with a great ball winning midfielder next to him. For example, with Anthony Annan they are highly complementary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 "Although primarily a creative player, the deep-lying playmaker also has to be competent in the art of defence"Defour cannot tackle well... Why would you play him in this role instead of advanced playmaker role? Deep lying playmakers don't necessarily have to be good at defending, it purely depends on the team setup. If his side/tactic needs someone to play deep and control play and Defour could do that would you still play him as advanced playmaker just because he's more suited to it? Xavi, Pirlo, Busquets, Xabi Alonso, Schweinsteiger and Montolivo are all examples of players that drop deep to control play and posession despite not being the greatest defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Deep lying playmakers don't necessarily have to be good at defending, it purely depends on the team setup. If his side/tactic needs someone to play deep and control play and Defour could do that would you still play him as advanced playmaker just because he's more suited to it?Xavi, Pirlo, Busquets, Xabi Alonso, Schweinsteiger and Montolivo are all examples of players that drop deep to control play and posession despite not being the greatest defensively. He was amazing for me as a DLP in my Spurs save. Had him on support with a ball winner next to him and he tore it up with assists and goals. Even became my captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 indeed.... i love playing the deep lying playmaking role in my teams... its basically a quarterback role.. sitting deep and spraying the ball about... tom huddlestone and this lad defour are the best ive ever had in-game.. his mentals make him superb for the role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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