Not too much in the way of testing, but I have a degree in Multimedia, years of CM/FM playing experience, currently employed as a Web Community Manager, therefore have testing for upgrades, site changes, server modifications, etc, and am IT savvy.
I'm also a huge football fan, know a lot about football and support... (don't laugh) ... Motherwell.
I'll put my name forward. Why? Well I've played CM/FM since the very first one in 93(ish). I've helped another (smaller) company by beta testing a couple of their sports management games over the last 2-3 years - also ended up writing the beginners guide for those games for their manual.
Biggest gripe with FM09 - well I don't have many MAJOR gripes - there are lots of annoying small problems (lots of text errors, daft answer choices in press conferences etc) but the 2 big areas of concern are the AI in the match engine - why do players do such stupid things? (running away from the ball, the crabbing issue etc) and the poor visual representation of what happens in the 3D - eg - why does a player, who has the ball, has an opponent behind him, and then goes down to the ground (as though he has been fouled), then get the foul given AGAINST him? (with the commentary saying he tripped the opponent - who is still on his feet!)
If errors like this in the match engine were cleared up (and I realise that is a HUGE job to make the engine totally realistic), then 95% of the complaints in this forum would go away, as all the rest is far less important if people are getting their players to react to their instructions in a way that is obvious to them.
I'd like to be considered for a Beta Testing.
I don't post so much but I'm really interested in this forum.
I've play all the FM series games.
I'd like to contribute to improve the game from now.
I would like to apply to become a beta tester. Having played the game for longer than i can actually remember, i feel i have a good understanding of the series and what is expected from such a high profile software title. I work as a web developer and build and test my own code (and others) on a daily basis. The testing involves small web sites to fully scalable applications including some desktop applications as well as websites. I am just short of 5 years experience in this industry (as well as a degreee in Computer Science) and feel i have grown to a good level of spotting bugs/errors, whether these be visual or functional. I was a previous FML beta tester as well for SI.
I am also a user of pc's and macs so can test on both platforms. Although i have not been a great contributor to this forum, i have tried to keep my posts to mainly bug reports, no matter how big or small.
I would like to have the opportunity to be considered for beta testing.
A little about myself first, I am 21 years old, I'm from a tiny island called Bahrain and currently studying Computer Science. I've been playing CM/FM since CM01/02 and played every version passionately. What I like most about the game is the ability to control smaller clubs and make them into a world class team. I've beta-tested FML (was not using this account at the time) and tested another MMoRPG game. I play the game alot (approx 6-7 hours a day) until I reach what I aimed for then usually take a break for a few days then start a new challenge. I've decided that I will try and help for this version by posting in the Bugs version whenever I encounter a bug.
What annoys me the most in this years game was the amount of good regens, which I find directly related to the one-footed players bug which over rates certain players even if their CA/PA is not that high. What I noticed in my game (in 2019 at the moment) that there are very very few players that can play with "Either" or just "Left" or just "Right". Alot of the regens appear with either "Right Only" or "Left Only". Also, through the course of the game I have brought in players, for example Obertan's preferred foot was "Right" now in 2019 it has changed to "Right Only" which I find weird.. The same happened with some other players. One other minor issues which are probably not code related, which is my countrys' players having wrong positions, preferred foot etc. which I will address in the Data forum in the future.
Finally, just wanted to say I really appreciate the work you do to make the game better and hopefully I can become a part of the beta-testing team .
I'll simply say I have purchased each version of the game (good and bad) dating all the way back to the original Championship Manager so this equates to a massive amount of hours spent playing the game over the last 15 years or so.
I've been a computer game player since the age of 12-13 (20+ years) so again plenty of knowledge and experience there and I'd love nothing better than to try and improve FM09 into the perfect management game it so nearly is.
My main critism of FM09 is the glitches in the match engine (I won't repeat them as they have been pointed out on the formus enough times already) however I feel that the press conferences need a major overhaul too.
Hopefully this will prove enough for you to consider me as a Beta tester.
I think I would be a good candidate because I am intelligent and articulate, and have a good understanding of FM, and thus will be able to provide you with reliable and insightful feedback. I have a 1:1 Degree and an MPhil, and therefore I am by training and nature inclined towards logical, and critical analysis.
I have been playing FM in various forms for about 8 years now, and would consider myself quite experienced (and fairly good at it!) For example in my first save with FM09, I came third with West Ham in my first season, won the Champions league with them in my second season and in the third completed the treble. This demonstrates that I have a good understanding of how the game works, and how it is intended to be played, how to set up tactics etc, which I believe would be useful attributes for a Beta-tester.
In addition I tend to enjoy long career games, e.g in FM08 I got up to 2025 (again with West Ham!) I think that this could be useful if you are looking to test how well the game plays with respect to long term issues. For example the paucity of quality regens was a real problem in FM08 (though I am delighted to see it seems to have been fixed in FM09). There are many other issues which would benefit from a long term examination e.g the long term buying strategy of clubs, national team composition over time, international competitions, Managerial hiring and firing etc
That being said I would be happy to do play with any team for any length of time if that is what was needed.
In terms of biggest issue, I play on a Mac and was really disappointed with the state of the game upon release. I thought it was simply unprofessional that the game had some major game-ruining bugs, and it felt like there could have been very little testing as I think most of us noticed them within minutes.
I am now playing on 9.1, which I am mostly happy with. I have been scared off upgrading to 9.2 due to some of the reported problems. So I think there is a (acknowledged) consistent problem with the amount of testing that has been done in the past.
The issues I have with 9.1 are rather minor. The transfer system is much improved, but I feel that there are still a few problems. Some clubs are displaying slightly irrational purchasing strategy e.g buying players and not using them.
• Man City in my game play 532, i.e with wingbacks instead of wingers. Yet they still purchase wingers at great expense and don’t use them – e.g Stewart Downing bought for 16mil and then played about 6 times in two years.
• Barcelona buy Gignac for 14 mil and then for two years in a row fail to use him at all (I think they are not even registering him).
• AC Milan bought Elano for 5mil and then didn’t use him at all.
I would have some minor gripes with the match engine as well. Players seem to miss too many easy chances, for example top international strikers will consistently put free headers wide, or pass the ball to the goalkeeper. This is frustrating and looks a bit ridiculous! Overall I tend to be happy with the results, but I too often seem to rely on a percentage game, being rescued with goals from set pieces.
I was invited to take part in the FMLive Beta testing for my contributions on the FMBritain Tactics forum. (I post under a different Alias there – happy to disclose on request) Unfortunately I wasn’t able to dedicate much time to this, due to work and family commitments. (Also when FM09 came out that took priority)! I do however play FM09 for on average 15 hours a week, and I hope this would be sufficient for your requirements.
i feel that i should be a beta tester for sigames and football manager 2009 series. im running a decent mid range spec laptop to test on. my biggest gripe for football 2009 is the slow matchplay as im running the specs ok. i have played football manager/cm since the first cm. i have posted quite a few times under different names throughout the football manager games with issues and bugs. i have good attention to detail. im currently out of work so can dedicate a lot of time to overseeing issues and bugs. other minor gripes are it seems the same as people above with tactics and the press conferences. finally my last gripe and this is why i should be considered for beta testing is that as im not running 3d due to graphics cards not being upto the required standard at the moment is i dont know when pitch needs relaying and for improvement for fm10 would be a description of the state of the pitch prior to a match.
also meant to add im in abertillery in the welsh valleys. i play fm daily and always run a career game with my hometown team of bristol city so i can see the issues with the jump up and regens. fm08 i got upto season 2034 before 2009 was launched. i must add since patch 2 which i seem to have no issues and fixed the problems before it came out makes it very realistic and i must say the hardest challenge of getting into premiereship to date which can be much more fun. i also have played career games in scotland, holland, germany, italy, spain, portugal, argentina and brazil so i would say i have a clear spectrum of the games and different leagues.
I would love to be considered as a beta tester. I have been involved in beta testing for FML and really enjoyed it and made contributions which i hope helped the developers improve the game. I'm a dedicated football fanatic and love to test my skills on both FM09 and FML and spend a ridiculous amount of time on the game.
Currently my biggest fault with FM09 is that training hasn't really been changed, which suprises me as it's the day to day part of football and yet you spend very little time working on it. And also IMO the UI for training isn't very convenient for someone who wishes to create more then a couple of schedules for their team, and it's really irritating for someone like me, who likes to go through each player and adjust his schedule accordingly. Having to create a new schedule for each player is really quite a lengthy experience and often leads me to not bothering.
I look forward to hopefully hearing from you soon.
I've purchased every version of Football Manager, also played quite a lot of the Championship Manager games. I've been in the scene for years contributed lots of graphics, articles, stories. I've played every version quite a lot, even had two buy another copy of 07 has my disc got ruined. I'm quite good as moaning about things but in a constructive way, I utilise all areas of the game, all leagues, online and off line frequently, I want to make the current fm and future versions the best possible for myself, the consumer and for SI, as if we all pull together this will create the best thing possible but only with co-operation of each, as each part of the team is vital.
I would like to apply for the position as beta tester. I have played the game since the days of CM 93/94 I think it was called and enjoy it tremendously. I mainly play in the danish, dutch and belgium leagues but I'm mostly interested in the development of the scandinavian leagues as they have been hampered for years by anoying bugs such as unrealistic transfers. Obviously I would help in any way possible to improve this otherwise fine game! Hopefully you can use that help!
I would like to be considered as a beta tester. I am Italian and I am a part-time journalist, covering non-professional teams in my region; this means, I know a lot about "Serie D" (and football in general...) I also have a decent background in java programming.
I've been playing this game since CM 97/98. My biggest issue with this version of the game was, of course, the Serie C bug. Other than that, I feel it could have been done more about training (the most unrealistic aspect of FM), tactics (there are a lot of sliders, checkbox and options, but in the end it's all about KISS (keep it simple stupid)) and players attributes (too many! And the CA/PA thing needs a radical rethinking, IMO). Oh, and the Italian translation: in the game, there are errors that hadn't been corrected since forever and the manual was clearly translated by someone who knows nothing about the game (and football in general...)
- Lived in the UK for 30 years
- Have now moved out to Australia and have been here the last 4 year living in Melbourne
- Support Crystal Palace
- Have played all the CM games, I can remember I really liked the Championship Manager Italia game. I can even remember playing the original Football Manager on my rubber keyed Spectrum (and I remember it crashing and me having to type some run command in to get it going again)
- I follow Australian, Scottish and English football, would follow more but the missus assures me she needs some attention some time
My biggest issues of the game would have to be firstly the match engine and hoping to get the 3d version playing as though you would almost be watching a normal match. I have to say as yet I have never seen an Premiership players run sideways as on the game, but maybe its something they are developing in the academies these days.
The other one would be improving the system of how actions you take affect the world around you (fans reaction, other manager reactions, board reactions, players reactions etc.). We've seen massive improvements in the last few years with the manager interaction and the teamtalks but it seems to me it could be developed much further.
I would like to be considerered as a beta tester for future FM games. I have played FM since the age of ten - CM 00/01, and have owned every edition since. The issues that irritate me the most are the little things - I have always been very good at proofreading / picking up grammatical errors and have noticed a number of them over the years, and the removal of the highlight speed slider. However, what has annoyed me most about the 09 edition thus far is the inability to give some simple instructions - I am still unsure how to get my wingers to cut inside most of the time with my full backs overlapping a la Arsenal, and I don't think that it should be necessary to plough through 200 pages of wwfan's Tactics Encyclopedia just to make this happen..
I feel that I am a logical and intelligent person, and able to express my opinions in a clear and concise manner. Although I am not a veteran poster (and what posts I have made have mostly been in CSE!), I believe that I have enough experience with the game and most importantly, have an insight into how other people may react to changes.
Thanks for your time and look forward to (hopefully!) hearing from you...
I'm not a regular poster on these forums but I do read/browse/lurk far more than I should.
Here goes, I'll keep it simple and will not over indulge in the use of words when not needed!:
Past Experience with FM/CM - I have played Championship Manager it's first version on the PC (although by no means the youngest here I'm not quite old enough to have been playing in the days of the Amiga) With the girlfriend having firm control over the remote I am therefore found to be playing FM most nights whilst pretending not to be watching America's Next Top Model.
Why I Think I'd be Suitable for this Role: My current second job (my main passion is of course managing my beloved Manchester City in the year 2032) is as a Quality Controller/Analyst for a commercial insurance broker - therefore playing with a system and trying my upmost to find new scenario's that the system/software can't handle is unfortunatley very second nature now.
I'll leave it at that for now - however should you require any further information please feel free to email me.
Hi there, My name is Dominik, and I think I would be a great beta testa because:
1) I love the series. From championship manager to Football Manager 2005 I have been there and played them all. I am a loyal customer and fan. I know the game inside and out.
2) I have worked on games before (designer) and know about beta testing. I would love to have the chance to be a proffessional and thourough beta tester, and I believe I could to this with previous experience and knowledge of what beta testing requires/does.
3) I am an avid member of the online community, contributing here and there with tactics etc.
4) I am determined and would do my best to logicaly work alongside your team.
5) Most importantly? I would have fun ^^ and having fun and approaching this from a customers point of view is exactly how you find and solve issues in the first place!
6) The only issue I have with the game is this - I hope it never ends!
I'm Nick, a 26 year old Aerospace Engineering student and avid wannabe football manager. I would like to put myself down for consideration for the Beta testing role. I have been playing the game since CM2, when visiting some family friends, their son introduced me to the game and I've been hooked ever since. I can still remember my first ever signing, Jan aage Fjortoft scoring a brace on his debut for my beloved Spurs and the rest as they say is history. I've been playing the game ever since, from my Paul Mcveigh inspired Monaco team that won the champions league, to my D'allessandro inspired Millwall world beaters, to my current Dean Sinclair inspired Luton team that suck. I love the fact that over the years I've known about players like Saviola, Henry, Kaka, Robinho, Ronaldinho, etc before they've hit the big time. My biggest dispappointment is that Samba, Bakayoko ( Everton should have used him better lol ) and Paul Mcveigh ( people will probably laugh, but he scored bag fulls for my Monaco team, cant remember which version ) never realised their true potential in real life.
I think I would make a good tester as being an engineering student, I a) have plenty of free time and B) have good analytical skills and report writing capabilities to go alongside an insatiable appetite for FM and football in general.
My biggest gripe with Fm09 is the portrayal of the matches in the 3d view, such as bizzare running on the spot, stupid own goals, keepers stopping, missing of a lot of 1 on 1's, etc. Only little things, but the annoyance adds up over a few seasons.
Anyway, thank you for the opportunity to apply, good luck with the patches and FM10.
Lost in world of numbers, spreadsheets, statistics and percentages !
Re: Become a beta tester for SI
I would love to become part of the beta test team.
I am a 44 year old avid football fan (if you call supporting Coventry City anything to do with football or fun:-)
I have played CM/FM since the beginning. The main thing I think I can offer is a good eye for statistical analysis and play balancing. I did quite a bit of my own work about this time last year with "too many goals and chances" in 8.0.1, which I posted and got some good feedback on. Am very willing to run a few seasons and conduct analysis of chances, goals, woodwork hits etc. ( I spend a lot of time on planes and in airports so have ample opportunity).
Biggest issue of I have with FM09 is the play balance when compared to real football (ie the number of chances, shots, woodwork hits, goals form mistakes, free kicks etc).
Having been a regular player of FM and previously CM (up to 04) I have found myself taking a sabbatical from this version. My reason is simply due to the speed of the game, nothing more.
I have switched loyalties to FML having Beta Tested there for a while and am a dedicated player in the current Shearer gameworld
I'd like to apply to become a beta tester for future versions of the game.
During previous versions I have been able to spot slight issues that have 'irked me somewhat' that i wonder why initial testers have not been able to pick things up. The main spot was with boxed release 08 (I think, or 07) where the defending team simply didn't tackle the attacking team. Other 'spots' include data issues (legends etc), club rosters etc..
I would like to be considered for this beta testing. I feel that I should be considered as a Beta tester and mod on FML for the last 18 months. I have a good record in picking up bugs and have been playing Championship Manager/Football Manager all the way back to 1991/92. Biggest gripes with FM09 so far (only had it a week) is that the press conferences and team talks seem to get very monotonous, and the assman doesnt handle them too well a lot of the time and also the training which feels very tricky to manage to the casual player.
220+ posts in this thread, would be very lucky to get a spot in the testing myself.
We all know that a large percentage of us FM worshippers get extremely angry, but I've never know anyone to jump out of the seat start waving their arms around and shout stuff across the room at the PC, in a very frustrated manner, embarassingly, like I do.
I'd love to be able to decrease the amount of times that I do that by the time I recieve the full game, by helping out with BETA testing. It would also be something I haven't done before, and I'm sure I'd love the opportunity and have fun doing it.
I scan these forums daily, getting soaked up in many a thread, but I don't post regurlalry. Simply because threads often get too long (i.e 100 posts a page). If i could most more I would.
I'm 19 years young, so all the parental legal paperwork would be avoided, you know how much you hate it SI ;)
It would actually be remarkable to be involved with a game, such as Football Manager at some point during my life, whilst I may not be the most active of members (in terms of posting) i found myself daily on here, and on other fansites, quietly seeing what people want and how they want it presented (although one day I was the first to post a feedback thread for a particular patch - one of my most famous days). I admit I'm not a poster maniac, but I certainly do listen and take note.
I've been playing the game for years, through and through, and I'm well known for my high attention to detail.
No number of words could really describe how much of a chance to be involved with a game that I have grown to love, enjoy and absolutely adore for many years, from computer to computer, year to year, summer to summer filled with imagination of managing my local team. Simply cannot be beaten.
I currently am studying English, Computing and Psychology at high levels (second year at college) and with managing to obtain FULL marks within my English Literature & Language course last year, it's evident I can spot an error and observe. The fact I take Computing, also shows I have a clear insight into the capabilities of hardware and software regarding the game.
Thanks SI - the opportunity of being involved is already exciting me.
I would like to be part of the test team for Sports Interactive.
I have been particiating in football manager games since the older games of CM99 and so on and have followed the Football Manager series from the start of 05. I spend time on these boards but i am not a regular poster, more of a viewer. I do interact on other boards though and have over 3000 posts on a different football manager fansite. I regulary play football manager in the evening or on my day off college (Where i am studying Media and TV production).
With regards of what i may add to the team is that if you asked anyone i know im very moany at the bugs that pop up in the game, and i notice alot of detail. I am a man of opinion and like to share and discuss how the game can be improved and what we would like to see in future football manager games. I am an Everton fan (the greatest team on earth - as you may have guessed on my username) and regulary go watching matches at Goodison Park (I am a seasont ticket holder). It is my 11th season this season as a season ticket holder and ive been to many many grounds to watch them play. I have seen how football is played, whats realistic and what isn't as i have made mistakes in my own football career. I think this would help when it comes to the topic of the match engine, i know i have looked at parts of the 3D engine that i think can be improved.
Come September 2009 i will heading off to University at UCLAN University. I am most likely going to be undergoing a course called Computer Games Devlopment and i believe that this would be very beneficial to me and my course, as well future job employment. I believe that in due time that this course will not only help me develop my skills and qualifications but will help you obtain more information about football manager.
I think the 3D Match Engine has been a success however i still believe there is alot of room for improvement. For example there are either way too many chances on the game, or too many one on one's because you get the likes of Michael Owen missing four or five one on one chances a game, which we all know a fit Michael Owen has a better success rate than that! There are more things i can include in improving the game but i'd rather tell you that in the future when i hope to be a beta tester!
I would like to be a beta tester for SI. The first game of the series i played was CM01/02, i played this for some years with a friend until i bought FM05, i enjoyed that game and then bought FM06 which was great for me. The main reason being was the fact that the game wasnt to simple nor was it too complicated. I didnt buy FM07 because i was enjoying FM06 too much, I then purchased FM08 which i really enjoyed, although there was many "bugs" to begin with, the first one that springs to mind was everytime you would score from a corner a free-kick was given however these were fixed and made the game good. Then FM09 when I first started playing within 20 minutes everyone seen the problems with injuries, i feel this showed a distinct lack of testing and why i am backing SI's decision to implement beta testing. The first patch (9.1.0P) fixed this and again the game greatly improved.
I am currently in my GCSE year which makes me 16 (not sure how old my profile says i am but im quite sure that it is wrong) and I have already acheived an A in I.C.T. My target grades are all As and Bs.
I'd love to be involved in BETA testing for Football Manager. Over the course of the past 2 years, i've aided friends,family and people on various forums with all aspects of Football Manager, from Installation to databases. I have an extensive background in the I.T industry and would be more than happy to assist Sports Interactive in future releases of Football Manager
I'd like to put my name down. Played CM/FM for the last 7 years and have been signed up for FML since launch, also beta tested FML for a month in GW 25. I'd love to improve any future SI games, if anything, to stop all the threads on these forums how FM isn't perfect when it is launched.
I would like to be considered for one of the Beta testing roles.
I consider myself a good choice because of my previous experience Beta testing experience. For SI I've tested two versions of FML including the current version. For other companies I've doen this as well and helped identify problems with the software.
As to my FM experience, I've been playing since Championship Manager 03/04 and thoroughly enjoy the game. I've noticed a few problems in this current version especially with LLM. It's terribly hard to expand stadiums or move to new ones. There's also something stagnant about the manager reputatation levels. Having won two successive promotions to be in League Two I'm still unproven. Have noticed similar with other players.
Tactics can also be remodelled. I'm no tactical genius but I have a fair idea what I want to do. I accomplish that most of the time but sometimes I just have to use someone else's tactics.
I'm fairly observant in general life and also while playing the game. I have a good amount of patience and understand that with Beta tests there's a high chance of problems that might lead to frustration for most people. For me though, I'm generally nit flustered much and won't find reason to want to shout obscenities at you lot.
Thanks for the opportunity to do this. Whoever does get the gig will surely have a great time.
Having read through this thread, I imagine that your eyes are starting to bleed from some massive blocks of text that don't say much at all. I won't exacerbate that.
I have always enjoyed this game, I want it to be the best it can. I do not agree with some of SIs policies and decisions, but that's really what you need, getting a load of 'Yes men' is going to do sweet fa. I am going to be studying Mathematics at University next year, so I have a good logical mind. Hope I can help.
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I would like to apply for the beta testing position.
I am entering the last year of computer systems engineering degree, and have had plenty of experiences with games and programming. I can see games from a programmers point of view, and I believe it will help a lot with the testing procedures.
FM is the only game I've played regularly the last 3-4 years, I am keen to contribute to making it a greater game that it can be.
My biggest issue with FM2009 would be the actual match engine. I am one of those players that care most about how the actual match is played. As important as other features in the game are, I believe how the game manages to portray real life football into the match engine is the key to a football management game. I'm not saying the match engine in FM2009 is poor, I just think there is room for endless improvements in that area, to make football as realistic as possible.
I wanna be a tester. Because than i can prove you that individual creative creedom and trainings shedule don't work in FM09 and FM08.
And that lateral movement is more realistic than keeper who can be the best team goalscorer (corners bug)
I've worked as a data analyst and a research asistant since leaving University, both jobs which require a lot of attention to detail and the ability to highlight and report problems in a helpful, structured way.
Suffice to say, I've been dedicating horrible amounts of my spare time to Championship Manager and Football Manager since around about CM2 (the rest I just wasted, etc, etc.) so I'm extremely familiar with the ins and outs of it, by now. I've been involved in (or have been reading) these forums for quite a while, as well.
The area of the game I'd most like to see improved is the user interface for creating tactics - I don't necessarily think the underlying slider system needs to change per se, but the way it's presented definitely does, to make things a little bit more transparent/intuitive and less painful to use. Failing that, I'd like to see the training module given a bit of a revamp.
I would like to be considered as a beta tester because I think my experience of playing is good (15 years or so). I feel I wopuld be helping instead of adding my voice to those who complain about similar issues. All of which have been logged anyway. This would enable me to be constructive and make the game better for everybody, along with all the other testers.
I'm glad to confirm my interest in Beta Testing for FM.
I've been playing FM from FM06. I spend a lot of time in this game and Live one. My name is Alin Vlad, 24 y.o and i'm currently working as a Senior Support Technician for an Internet Security company. In a word, i troubleshoot and i'm good at this.
I believe that this quality will help me a lot in the future possible beta testing analysis.
Also, i was a dedicated FML beta tester from March deciding to purchase the game in October. I like to offer all my knowledge, power, dedication to a task, especially one as being a FM beta tester.
Alltough i'm not very active on SI forums, i'm a moderator on the romanian FM dedicated website and forum : www.fmro.ro. From here, i would like to express one of my main concerns : FM in romanian. Despite the fact that the piratery it's still increased in many worlds, especially Romania, i believe that translating the game will definitely increase the number of FM paying romanian community.
My main concern in FM is the poor research for some lower leagues in different countries. i know that requires a lot of resources, but you must not let down the manager at the most important feature of the game : realism. Also, the ME still needs a lot of work.
I would like to become a beta tester because I am extremely interested in the evolution of this game, and have been since CM2 back in the day.
My interest in football management goes beyond the billionairres of this world, and more so to the grass roots development of raw young talent. So I have a keen interest in the academy side of the game and would like to see that improve beyond what it is now. For example, more interaction with the youngsters - perhaps more real life issues such as bigger clubs poaching the younger players. More theory behind the development of the academy players. Even perhaps the opportunity to start the game as an Academy manager, and perhaps get promoted through the ranks.
I've only recently become active on the forums, and at the moment I am currently prolific in finding out the deepest intricate methods and theories behind the game.
I would like to be considered for the role of beta tester.
I have been a loyal champ manager/football manager customer since the very beginning, and have never skipped a release.
My biggest issue with the game is, the fun seems to slip away with every release.
The cause of this in my opinion is too many "new additions" are added too soon with not enough time for testing.
Now i have plenty of time for testing, and would be very active in providing my view of the games strengths and weaknesses in order to make it perfect for release.
I feel I should be considered for beta tester because I am very experienced with computers and games. I've played enough games, over the many years to be able to spot a bug/glitch in a game.
I want to assist in making the game and patches better for release, by finding as many bugs in the game as possible. I would be able to put a lot of time into bug finding also.
I am also active in the forums these days and have played a very long time in the game(25 days).
My biggest issue with FM09 at the moment is penalties. I'm sure you know the problem with them, so I dont feel the need to explain.
I'm playing this game since CM 98/99 (by te way I think CM4 was the best). I'm a big fan of football (I watch alot of games from England and Romania) and also a FM fan.
The biggest problem (apart from the bugs) is training. You shouldn't have to hire 7-8 coaches plus an assistant manager to get 7 stars in every training schedule. Most Managers in England have in the coaching staff of the first team just 1 assistant, 1 first team coach and 1 goalkeeping coach plus physios and doctors (the rest are working with the reserves or academy players), not 8 coaches (for tactics, attacking, defense, set pieces etc). How can you hire a coach just for "set pieces"?! It should be more realistic and get the best from training with a reasonable number of world class coaches.
I'd love to throw my hat in the ring as a relative newcomer to the FM series. I've been hooked since coming across FM 2007 and have played each version since. I am a MAC user and would like to help out with any possible developments that could help sort of even the playing field for us mac users in the versions to come. I am also South American and though I bwas born in Paraguay I usually play career games strarting in Argentina and have a few ideas on improving some of the realistic aspects of the South American and Argentinian competitions, not to mention the possible development of a playable Paraguayan league ;)
I have a top of the line iMac that makes FM 09's 3D feature look breathtaking and certainly shows signs of great innovation and improvement on SI's part, and I would love to help out in any way with the future development of this beloved series.
Hi there, I'd like to apply for the Beta testing, due to the Economic Downturn I have been made redundant so i have a lot of spare time on my hands!! Obviously i am looking for a job, but might aswell give something ago.
But I have been playing the football/championship manager series since the days of the Amiga. I remember on my game Cambridge united had two made up players that were awesome!!
My big issue is the match. There are too many one on ones where the goalie saves them. AMC player rating is low. Crazy amounts of injury time. Also a slight one where assistant feedback and when there is a highlight it just flips back to the overview.
I hope that dont come across negative. I think this game is fantastic. I would like to assist with the game to make it as best as possible.
I should be considered for the Beta Testing role because I play football manager every waking hour of the day or night and have done with previous carnations aswell. Due to playing so long, nothing irritates me as much as the interface bugs and other little niggles. For this reason I will be a diligent tester with the game at heart.
My main issue with the game this year is definately the incompatibilities with many modern computers which stopped FM working on their computers and I want to help...
I should be considered for testing because I have a good eye for details and like to study the stats of every match I play, I have played Football Manager since it was just Championship Manager 1 and the only game that I really didnt like was FM2008 which I perceived to have problems with the way possession in matches was handled. I have only just purchased the game (last night) and so far I only have one little niggle and thats with injuries there does seem to be a fair few, other than that I havent really read the feedback in these forums so I am coming in with a blank slate so wont be clouded with reported problems.
I post pretty regularly on here so I know most of the major gripes with users, have posted many times on aspects of the game which I think need work on. In terms of experience with testing/development, I'm currently studying Games Design and have experience of programming and the design of games. I also have experience of installing websites based around phpBB and installing mods which requires a fair amount of finding bugs and solving the problems caused.
My biggest gripe with FM would be the AI of opposition managers. Their dodgy transfer behaviour, not strenghtening the team in the right places and their lack of personality.
Hopefully, you know my post history well enough to know whether or not I would be a good candidate and, as a mod, don't feel like I receive enough abuse so being a tester could only help
I love this game and I think I can contribute and I developed in the future of this game .. are also very interesting what will follow! I hope you choose me and thanks y whant to be a betatester! i'm 22years
My Names Lee im 19 from Scotland
Why should i be a beta tester?
I cant really give you a great reason. Except ive followed the series since 2001, buying every edition on its release date. I've been a little critical of this years but saying that i am addicted to it. I feel i found the bugs early on and reported them on the site i post at. Also have alot of spare time to dedicate to this testing should it be required to do a few season into to find bugs.
I would like to throw my hat into the ring. I have been a player of the series since Champ Man broke my affection towards Premier Manager back around 94. My main gripe with the game at the moment has to be the odd occasion when the 3D representation lets down the match engine calculations. It can look awful when a player is standing right beside a ball but doesn't seem to acknowledge its presence. If these lapses between engine and representation were tightened up then the game would be much more enjoyable.
You should consider me because I have been playing the game on a mac ever since it was possible. Lack of mac testing seemed to be a major issue with the present release. Also, I have a good knowledge of past FM's and what worked and didn't work, so would have a good handle on whether new features are working out.
I'd like to put myself forward for beta testing.
I've years of experience as a test engineer for very large projects. I have a eye for fault finding second to none. I have played the fm series since it's inception and would love to be a part of the future development of the game, helping it expand on the great steps forward it has made in this issue. My belief is that the main problem currently in the game is an inability to quickly communicate a tactical change midmatch, that tactical interface needs an overhaul.
This would be better if it was called FMX Factor and the assessment featured cutting and biting putdowns from a panel of experts.
Having said that I would like to apply
My reasons? I like the challenge of trying to outwit the developers and break the code they have toiled over for days nay weeks. I've had a few posts of feedback in the FML forums. Chipped in with a few match engine, tactical things.
As for a big issue, I still think the international management implementation in FM is a bit haphazard. I'd like to experiment with that and feed back what's good and isn't, what's working and what isn't. And generally try to exploit the tactics board to break the match engine. Not that I think the match engine is bad, just it's prone to not being used by the deranged and the eccentric.
As you've highlighted in the OP, sometimes highlighting these things after release feels like wasting your energy since major flaws are a fait accompli. I guess beta testing would be an interesting thing to try.
Plus I have like 23k posts here, so it's not like I'm not going to participate in the supersecret forum
Like many others i've played the game since the Domark days, and have the passion to make the game as enjoyable as possible for everyone.
Not sure what qualifications you need, but i've got a keen eye for detail and a flair for numbers (I'm an analyst by profession). I enjoy the game and have no real axes to grind. That's not to say the game doesn't need to evolve and do the enhanced 3d justice.
I guess my most valuable asset for testing would be my clarity of thought.
I would like to be considered as part of the Beta testing team. I have played FM for many years now after becoming addicted at a relatives house. I think i could provide a good knowledge of football to the team and would like to make FM even more fun and addicting.
I have only just become new to the online forums this year but feel i have offered good advice aswell as taken it. I am easy to communicate with and would be eager to test future FM's.
as a longtime player of the CM/FM series, I've developed a thorough understanding of what components contribute to make a release successful. with this in mind, I feel that I am uniquely able to ascertain where and why specific modules "don't work," so to speak - by comparing FM08 to FM09, for instance, I am able to understand and explain why coach reports have been improved (for those interested for the actual answer, it's the added flexibility provided by being able to look at players' abilities relative to EVERY position they play and the other options at the club).
my analytical skills will allow me to provide feedback that is both valuable and insightful. I believe that I will be able to comment intelligently on every type of issue, from the niggliest of bugs to potential inaccuracies in the financial module or match engine.
the biggest problem with FM09 in my mind is the lack of transparency in the match engine - the interplay between sliders is still confusing and, at least in my personal experience, paradoxical settings (like having an attacking mentality, quick tempo, high width, and low defensive line) can still allow a manager to be unduly successful. is this an issue that I personally could fix through beta testing? no. however, I could guide internal debate and attempt to find partial explanations for why these confusing results occur.
Hi, my name is Zbyszek (I know, you can't spell that) and I'm 27 year-old CM/FM fan from Poland.
I am currently working on a data update for FM09. I've done this before, together with Robi Robson we were making a series of updates form like CM4 up to FM07, part of it was "published" by the polish official FM site - CMrev.com. My other current project for FM09 is a "Standarized database" which will be based on a "no-player database" which was already posted here: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?p=2454888
- I've been playing CM for years, from the very first CM that was ever released. I think it brings me a lot of experience of how the game should look like and how it should behave.
- I like testing stuff. To see how it works is to know it and master it and that's what the games are all about, right? Well I'm like those nasty kids who tests the car by hitting it off the wall just to test how long will it last. I'm testing the games for their dumbness in the same manner: when I play some FPP I test the physics first - how long the character can jump, will he die when he jumps from that bridge and so on. When I play a cRPG game I'm checikng if I can steal money from NPC, kill one of characters in my team and so on. When I'm playing a tour-based strategy the first thing I'm gonna do when I'll satisfy the first hunger of playing, is to check the files (Europa Universalis anyone?) and download some mods. The same goes for FM - first thing I've done when I got it was to open the editor and hassle with database. Now, you could ask yourself here: so what? Well, so It's pretty obvious I'm pretty much bored with the computer games nowadays. They're nothing like the old computer games when you could stare at them all night, go to school, come back and play all night, go to school... and so on - you get the point. I'm now at a certain level when I'm not enjoying the game itself - I'm rather into testing it, I want to know "how the hell did they do that" or "oh, that's a nice function right here" etc. It's hard for me to explain it but I get a feeling that those who have been playing for years know exactly what I mean. This is why I think I would be the ideal man for the job.
- Unlike some other applicants here I'm more interested in fixing the bugs, instead of thinking about new features.
- 11 January (closing day) is my birthday :P
- The last and most significant one: I've just moved out of my gildfriend's flat. We've just ended a pretty long and utterly dissappointing relationship. That means I'll have an awful lots of spare time. I mean really, really lots ;)
Now, about my biggest issue - I'd say it's the "new-old" transfer system. Why do I say "new-old"? Because, for me personally, I can't see any change whatsoever playing this FM and the previous one. I mainly play in Polish league, with best european leagues also selected and I have to say that FM09 has dissapointed me mostly in this area. If you would happen to see what is actually going on in our league, you'd known that there are lots of foreigners coming into our league, especially from former Yugoslavia countries like Bosnia, Serbia and so on. The game doesn't reflect this at all. As a matter of fact it doesn't reflect the real world even nearly as every in-game season number of foreigners in Polish leagues drops. That's completely unrealistic and should be changed. I've been messing with changing reputation and league standard in the database but even If I change the results are no sufficient enough to call them a realistic simulation. I think that's something SI should take care of and I'm here to help. I know that Polish league is not your priority here, but nevertheless you have to admit that our country has the potential to become a major selling country for SI games. But first you have to help me help you.
What I'm offering to SI is:
- vast experience of Football Manager, and I'm not just talking about playing the game itself, but a lot of deeper knowledge - I'm a programmer myself and though I'm definietely nost as good as you guys, I still do have some basic knowledge of how things work.
- because of my update projects I'm mostly interested in the data side of the game, so things like editor and it's usability is a very important thing for me - unlike other testers. I also know how to get the hidden data out of the game - by using Artmonety for instance.
- I like to dedicate my free time for some higher purpose then playing games, that's why I've been making updates and some tests of the game (although none of them were publicated by me to be honest)
- I'm absolutely fascinated with this game yet I realize that there's still much to do. I would love to help you resolve those problems so that everybody could enjoy the best football manager out there.
I have no personal experience with testing, I did do FML testing but personally hated the game so un-installed it without being able to look for anything wrong with the game, I may have lasted about 2 hours!
I have been playing this series since the CM 00/01 days and have been hooked on every version since.
I have no real problems with the game, nothing that makes it "un-playable" for me. The only real gripe I have with the game is the advertising hoardings around the pitch being a link, there should be a setting in the preferences to be able to turn them off but that is my personal opinion.
I feel I could help out with the BETA Testing because of being involved with FM Weegie, I have spent the past year ironing out mistakes with the database that we can correct so I am used to looking for the little things that aint right and hopefully can become part of the technical side of things to iron out potential mistakes and bugs.
My infraction personally was unfair, people want to come onto this website and moan like hell cos they don't like the game and then when I give a response in which EVERY piece of swearing was done discreetly (E.G. S**T) and people don't like it cos I basically say that if you don't like the game then don't buy it and have since made sure I have done nothing like it despite other people using foul language without censoring it in any way and NOT getting infractions or warnings or anything, also seeming very unfair but that is not the reason I am here today!
I hope my explanation of my infraction is understandable cos I did confuse myself a little when writing and reading lol
I would like to apply to be part of the beta testing team for football manager.
My current age is 14 and as a 14 year old I could offer immense dedication aka I spend almost every minute of my free time on football manager. I have previously posted flaws such as injured players which are substituted standing outside the stadium. In my time as a member on this forum I have posted quite a few ideas for future feature to be added to the game and while none of these are extraordinary I believe that this shows my dedication to not only playing the game but improving it. I am prepared to dedicate a lot of my time to testing .
My biggest current gripe would be to do with matches, first of all I believe advertising hoardings should only open a window if they are double clicked rather than once. Also I feel that team talks have a bad affect e.g. you can tell someone that you are pleased with them and they become angered now the only logical course for that to happen would be if they are playing a 1 and therefore believe you are patronising them but it’s not only in that case. Another minor gripe is the questions in press conferences where they ask a question but the answer’s don’t fit with the question or as recently happened to me when Reading had already won the Championship and I was asked who would win I obviously chose Reading and the response was “Baffling Reading choice for Coca-Cola championship title”.
Surely you see the problem with publicly disclosing you've signed a non disclosure agreement - it doesn't bode well for you? If they emailed you and have questions, email them back and ask.
The non-disclosure form is to stop Beta testers discussing or revealing information about patches and/or future releases of FM to other companies or in general on here or other forums. I am sure SI wouldn't mind people saying they were chosen because am sure once everyone has been chosen everyone will get to know anyway. But i could be wrong by this.
My name is Daniele and I'm from Italy. I study economics at university and I play fm during lessons on my notebook (fm for me is a drug :-)). I would like to be considered as part of the beta testing team because I've been a fmlive betatester and I have a lot of time to spend for testing new patches and more and report any form of errors. I've been a resercher also for Italy (Panoz's site). Of course i have every football manager from 2005 to 2009 (this last on steam) and I tested every previous patch and a lot of unofficial patches.
So please SI give me a chance and I'm sure you won't regret. Bye
I'm not applying for being a tester, but I am wondering if SI is taking testers that are basically casual gamers in order to test how comprehensive and intuitive the game's layout is. Just from quickly glancing over the forums here and other places, there's much frustration from gamers due to a sudden increased in a learning curve of the tactical side of the game, plus the tools provided to users to solve their problems are lacking. As some other poster stated on this thread, the game is loosing its fun factor more and more for casual gamers. Would be good to hear from someone at SI if they indeed do hire testers simply for this purpose, in order to evaluate the user-friendliness of the game.
Have been playing footie game's & footie managment game's sine i was in single digit's in term's of age starting with i think Striker on the Amstrad or Amiga & a few other's before moving on to the best management game ever (no offence) Sensible World of Soccer.
I've been playing the SI series of Football management since i honestly don't remember, believe it was just a one league per disk game when i started & have followed it ever since.
I have only two experience's of testing before, both for SI, the first was FM 07 which i enjoyed so much & was annoyed when some person decided to upload the file as a torrent so the second phase was then cancelled. The second was FM Live back towards the end of october, sadly i didn't get much testing done as suddenly had to move home & was without internet for a while.
I work in retail so have an eye when it come's to noticing what's not right with a situation & making my opinion know when it come's to certain issues.
My biggest problem as such with the game is training, i do like how it's easy to use but would like the option to do more when it come's to team based training. I would to be able to set up certain training program's for certain team's (i know it may sound a bit Fifa manager). If i started off as a Championship club & got them promoted then would like to be able to plan a program where i can choose what i want them to do to suit the tactic's in that game eg against the 'big four' i know they going to come out & attack me so would like to train the team to hit them on break (not just have that has option in tactic's) & also how to fully use the set piece's that come how way during the game. It could get complicated so the option of your Assistant taking charge should be there but with you telling him the begining of each week in a meeting as such if there is anything you want the team to train or just leave it all to him. Just using the slider's isn't really ideal to do that as the team will know how to attack/defend set piece's currently but currently if you have different player's of different position's using differnet scheldule's then does take time to keep tweaking the slider's of each schedule.
Thanks for reading & hopefully will hear from you soon.
I would also like to be involved in the beta-testing of future FM software.
I have been playing CM/FM since the 01/02 edition (I'm 24 now), and the new versions were always a highlight of my year. I'm an avid reader of a lot of fansites/blogs (include all the big ones here and a few more "underground"). I consider to have gathered enough experience over the years to actively teach and easily spot mistakes (I've "educated" my buddies in both gameplay and workstyle. The good thing is that I still get %$^% when I lose.
Also, I'm a big fan of testing games: I love to see how they take shape week after week until the launch day, with all the good and the bad that change brings. I did do quite a bit of testing in my day, but since we're talking football here, I should mention the time (a lot of it) spent on FMLive, and lately on another game called Football Superstars.
I always had three issues with the FM games:
a. lack of balance between casual and in-depth gaming. You can never sit down for a quikc match before bed. It's too complex to just browse through (not necessarily a bad thing, but something I feel should be worked on). This game should also appeal to those who don't want to pull an all-nighter.
b. steep learning curve for new players. Really, really difficult to reach your full potential without hours of reading tactic tips, or learning about training schedules. The phrase "It's your tactics, mate!" being already a meme in my opinion, suits this point just fine.
c. a (slight) lack of personality. People usually create their own stories, make up fantasy press conferences, invent biographies and conflicts, etc. The game still needs a bit more work to actually make you think "you're there". I must note that improvements have been made in the last editions toward this effect.
All in all, I'd say I'm a big (read "huge") fan, an experienced player, obssessed with tweaking every little detail in all applications I run, and with great desire (I think I mentioned 90% of the FM fans out there).
I'd like to apply for beta tester becuase I think I can be helpful with further improving the game. FM is better every year but still not perfect. I've been playing CM/FM for a very long time, I think since 2000.
I think there is couple minor issues with 3D match engine, specially player movement on the pitch sometimes looks unrealistic. Press conferences and player interaction also need a little improvement. I've noticed another small thing. Polish clubs not signings many foreigners what is different than real life. I also did't get any notice of my staff expirings contracts.
I would also like to be considered for future beta testing.
Having played the old Championship manager series and now football manager since the very beginning, it's obvious to see how far these games have come and i would like to be a part of continuing to improve the series. As i get older i'm finding that Football manager is the only game i ever really play consistently so anything i can do to make it better i will.
I appreciate that due to it's complexity this game will never be 100% bug free but there we some quite major issues the made it to release such as the injury bug, incompatability with certain graphics hardware and at the moment there is a lot of discussion about wonderkids being released on free's. The latter is actually a nice bug when you are playing as a smaller team :-), but still something that should have been picked up. I feel that if given the chance to be a beta tester then i'll do my best to ensure these and numerous other small isssues will not make it to future releases of Football Manager.
As for my testing background, i work as a senior devloper for a large financial organisation and have been part f testing teams during my time there. I have a degree in Software Engineering and have worked in IT for the last 5 years since leaving Uni, all of this i feel should put me into a good position to be a beta tester for the FM series.
Just a quick not on the NDA issue, i am signed up at work to all NDA projects in a £200 million project portfolio and know exactly what is required here and the importance of not disclosing any information to anybody.
Finally i thought i would end on a high note! I am loving the 3D match engine, i thinks it's added so much to the game and once the little niggles are ironed out (for example my player 2 yards next the ball being beaten to it by an opposition at least 15 yards away, because he just decides to walk over to the ball slowly..) i think people will wonder how we ever coped without it.
Some people think I'm Bonkers, I just think I'm free!!!! :D
Re: Become a beta tester for SI
I would also like to throw my name into the hat to be considered for beta testing.
I have been an active member of these forums for eight years now and have managed to become a moderator of these forums partly due to my commitment for this game. I was part of the public beta testing team that got to test FM07 before that abruptly got stopped. I felt really proud of getting that opportunity to make the game that I love better not just for me but for everyone that plays it. In that time I felt I added something by reporting bugs, posting screenshots and so on to make the game better.
I have never been one to rant on these forums and always post in a constructive manner or otherwise I don't post. I understand this game will never be perfect due to it's size and complexity but will strive to make it as good as possible within the time limits given.
I don't have many issues with the game but would love to help refine the match engine to make it better and more realistic.
I would like to help add to the media content and press conferences as just now I feel they are a bit repetitive at the moment.
I was also part of the FM Live beta testing team for a couple months and felt I contributed in helping make that game better.
I'd like to put my name forward to help with the beta testing of future Fm titles and its patches.
I've been a keen player of management games since as early as I can remember, with Football Manager 1 and 2 on the trusty old Speccy, then on to the CM/FM series on the PC from CM2 onwards. From a Beta Testing perspective, I have a good eye to detail and was also involved in the Beta Testing in the To Madeira game-world. I've also done some product testing in my real-life role so am aware of what is required when beta testing and reporting flaws in the game.
I guess compared to the majority of people on here, I 'd class my self as a casual gamer - in other words, I'm not interested in spending hours and hours developing tactics and training for my teams, I just want to fire up the game, choose a tactic and play. This may of use in the beta testing process as I could give a casual gamer's perspective on any bugs and flaws within the game.
As far as any issues with FM09, for me there aren't any showstoppers, but there are 2 areas which I feel could improve the smooth flow of the game. The first is s simple one regarding watching the game on Commentary Only. I notice on every game, the match pauses at 8, 22, 53 and 67 minutes. As I said, nothing major, but something that can be annoying for the casual gamer. The second item is the press Conferences. At first I though these were a great addition and did them myself, however after around 5 or 6 press conferences, I found it to be very repetitive. Perhaps these could incorporate more options or even utilise the free text box so that it picks up on keywords that you type in - making it more realistic in the process.
I appreciate my post count is very low on here, but I am what you could describe as a lurker - I only post in all honesty when I feel the need to post something constructive, rather than post for the hell of it.
I would like to put my name forward to possibly be a BETA tester for future patches and FM Titles.
I have been a BETA tester for the past 2 Call of Duty games so have experience looking for bugs in games.
I have been played the Football manager series from the beginning and also played the championship manager series from 00/01, I have thoroughly enjoyed each and every game I have played.
Through my job I know all about not disclosing any information regarding what you are working on. I have been diligent in this throughout my work and would bring this to the BETA testing.
I like to play as my local team Liverpool but also enjoy lower league management. This would enable me to test different parts of the game.
My main issues with the current game are largely based on the media and team talks. I do not feel there are enough options available, with most of them being quite generic. At the moment, because of this I feel this part of the game is not as enjoyable as it could be. I also believe that the tactics need to be changed and made more user friendly. With being a keen gamer for years it is a lot easier for me to use the tactic then someone who is first starting the game. They can be quite difficult at first and take awhile to get use to.
RIP FM Mac at footymanagement.net :: The Long Overdue Mac FM Site
Re: Become a beta tester for SI
I would like to become a SI beta tester for the Mac.
I have done this previously for versions on FM on the mac. I also used to run the biggest Mac fansite FM Mac, until it was taken over by others a couple of years ago.
My biggest concern is regarding the Press Conferences which have been added to this years game. There is a great potential for this to become a great part of the game. At the moment it is quite repetitive and lacks depth or full integration with the game world. I know that it will take a lot of work to get it to a state where it reaches its potential, but I think that I can provide clear and thought out feedback to help and improve this and other areas of the game.
Good luck with development and I look forward to hearing from you regarding this if you choose me.
I would be very much interested in applying to be a beta tester for FM. I have bought every edition of Championship Manager and Football Manager since the early 1990's.
I watch most Scottish and English games that are broadcast on satellite T.V. I am a construction manager and part of my role is simplifying structures and systems and could spot many ways in witch the interface could become more streamlined and more user friendly. For example in the tactics screen why not have tabs that allow you to set up a standard, attacking and defensive formation? You could then have a shorcut on the match screen to easily make changes during the match.