CM 03-04 Diablo Tactic

[Hazzydeepy]

I powered up my old CM 03/04 game recently and remembered there was a 'cheat' tactic called 'Diablo' something or other. I DO NOT want to use this tactic although I would like to know what the tactic was exactly (Formation, player and team instructions please) so I can avoid it. I have searched on google for it, but all I can find are a couple of threads from other forums just talking about it and a download from some website from Turkey. So if anyone could tell me exactly what the Tactic was I will be very grateful.

[4457]

If I recall right it was a 4-1-3-2 with the central midfielder having an arrow up to the strikers?

[AcidBurn]

I am sure its the MC with a farrow inbetween 2 strikers.

[Sad Git]

I would like to know what the tactic was exactly so I can avoid it.

I bet you're fibbing and that you really want to use it.

CM 03/04 is a truly great game.

[Hazzydeepy]

Nah - I honestly don't want to use it, I don't see the point in cheating. I love the feeling of winning a tight game, winning nearly every match easily would be boring. Has anyone got a definite answer?

[Sad Git]

It's definitely a MC with a loony run forward to the SC position. The defenders can't cope with it, apparently. There was a whole load of threads about it in the tactics forum here once, I don't know if they're still around.

[Hazzydeepy]

Right - So a run from a central defender just forward (i.e. to the attacking midfielder spot) wouldnt be 'cheating' then?

EDIT: I have just checked the Training and Tactics forum and the oldest posts there are from this year - No hope for ones around four years ago.

[Sleeman]

http://www.theoffsider.com/FM-CM.htm

[Hazzydeepy]

I dont want the link for downloading it - I dont want to use it - I just want to know what it was so i can avoid it

[fgu82]

It is a 4-1-3-2 tactic, with the central midfielder of the three running forward between the strikers. The team mentality is gung-ho and attacking trend is from the flanks, if I remember correctly.

I used it many times to be honest, and it is not as effective as it's told to be. Yes, you win big time but not every game. Every now and then you end up losing a match, especially away from home.

[leedsforever]

If you don't win every game with diablo you're a failure. Alessio Cerci (who is 15/16 years old at the start of the game) scored 128 goals the season with me from the CM position.

[Abaddon879]

If you wanna know what it was, just download it and then you will know what to avoid. You dont have to use it. Thats your own moral decision. But its silly to ask what it was when you have been given a link to it.

[totti_is_god]

I do not really understand this. You want to know what it is so you can avoid it? It's hard to imagine, if creating your own tactic, you would, by chance, create Diablo.

[Super Canaries]

Haha that's what i was thinking...

[Barkermush]

I bet you're fibbing and that you really want to use it.

CM 03/04 is a truly great game.

That it is that it is! Cm 03/04 Best game of the enitre Cm/Fm series in my oppinion.

[mrmeee17]

I do not really understand this. You want to know what it is so you can avoid it? It's hard to imagine, if creating your own tactic, you would, by chance, create Diablo.

What I was thinking, really.

[BiggN]

Also if you really want to know what it is.... go download it so you can see, you don't have to use it once downloaded.

[Jonas27]

If it was a cheat tactic in cm03/04 I doubt it´s for any use now in FM09.

[Sad Git]

I wish someone would make a CM 03/04 devotion site, like the one for CM 01/02.

[pnefc22]

CM01/02 was and is the best but it is closly followed by CM03/04

[Hazzydeepy]

Thanks guys

[crouchaldinho]

I was just talking to someone about this tactic. I remember everyone talking about it when CM03-04 was out. Never used it myself though!

I was wondering why was it called Diablo out of interest? Anyone know the reason behind that name choice?

[Barside]

Using it was akin to selling your soul to the Devil.

[InterWolf]

I think Bielsa used it against Man Utd.

[Kenco]

In addition to the MC with a long forward arrow to SC, didn't the 2 strikers also have side arrows to move them wide? This worked best against teams with a flat back 4 (most AI teams) as the two DCs would man mark the strikers and get pulled wide, allowing the MC a free run at goal.

[FrazT]

Was Diablo not the user name of the guy that found this ME flaw and uploaded the tactic?

[Overmars]

I still have fond memories of the 2-3-2-1-2 tactic in CM3. It was as invincible as it was narrow.

[crouchaldinho]

Was Diablo not the user name of the guy that found this ME flaw and uploaded the tactic?

That could well be the reason, FrazT!

I didn't use the tactic myself and I can't really remember how it worked. I just remember reading the forums at the time and people were getting crazy results with the famous 'Diablo' tactic.

[Koki]

Anybody downloaded it and tried whether it is any good in FM12?

[M.U.F.C....TSVR]

Doesn't work for FM12. I heard of it but never tried it until just, on FM12 lol and was told 'The file cannot be imported'.

[FrazT]

It was an obscene tactic- an average AMC could score 60 goals a season, whcih was great as long as you werent looking for realism.

[Weezer]

Got Alan Quinn to score an average of 5 goals a game for 4 seasons before I got bored! It really was a crazy exploit, wins of 6, 7, or 8 goals were the norm.

[Fabio MVP]

4 year bumpage Crouchy FFS!

And what FrazT said about the tactic's name.

[crouchaldinho]

4 year bumpage Crouchy FFS!

Wow, I didn't even realise until you just pointed it out!

I was just chatting to a friend about it and decided to search the forums for 'Diablo' to see if I could find out the reason behind the name!

[av3ry]

Is this what the "diablo" is?...

Wilbraham in this screenie?

[Fabio MVP]

Is this what the "diablo" is?...

Wilbraham in this screenie?

No it is not IIRC.

[Things Could Get Messi]

I used this tactic back in the day and thought I was really good at the game because I was thrashing every team in sight. Found out many years later after I got the internet that it was a flaw with the game!

[Richey2008]

I did that, or something similar. Thought i was some kind of footballing God. Alas, I wasn't

[VladTepes]

Was Diablo not the user name of the guy that found this ME flaw and uploaded the tactic?

I always thought it was because it looked like a trident of the kind the devil is frequently depicted waving about in medieval scribbles!

[FrazT]

The tactic involved having 2 strikers with sideways arrows and using an AMC just behind them with a forward arrow running into the space created by the 2 strikers pulling the 2 DCs out wide. The ME couldnt cope with that and the AMC will score bucketloads of goals. Remember Oskarsson?

[Kenco]

It wasn't an AMC, it was an MC with a long arrow.

[Bootador]

It wasn't an AMC, it was an MC with a long arrow.

Agreed, was definately an MC (middle of 3 MCs)

[MattyBRFC]

I remember this i had Steed Malbranque at Newcastle on a save who went on to score 80+ goals and was worth an incredible amount of money half way thru the season

It was 4-1-3-2 formation with the CM's arrow going straight up thru the middle of the strikers.

[daherlihy]

Out of curiosity, has anyone created a tactic like this for FM 2012?

[Leeboy]

Does this work with the 4.15 patch as im going to fire this up after reading this need to see my beloved Everton win some how

[Kenco]

Out of curiosity, has anyone created a tactic like this for FM 2012?

This tactic exploited flaws in the game which have since been fixed, so I doubt it's possible to replicate this tactic with any kind of success.

There are however, other tactics which exploit areas of the ME. I would have a look in the tactics forum.

[HHUK]

I remember trying it out and putting Orri Freyr Oskarsson as the CM. Turns out, the CB's would mark the 2 strikers and leave the CM to run forward unguarded. You can see how the match engine would have been confused, having such a deep player suddenly turn up as a third striker with nobody to mark him. It was fixed eventually.

I find the marking is a lot tighter nowadays.

[nick1408]

I had Mads Timm raise his value to 20m+ due to the goals he would score for me. I think any player, regardless of stats would be a world beater in that position.

[jayahr]

The key was the MC with the long farrow. The defenders of the opponent were drawn wide by the strikers (who may have had according sarrows) and left that MC with open runs on goal numerous times.

A cheap and PA-wise really lowish player who was nevertheless amazing in that MC spot, scoring tons and tons, was Oskarsson.