FM2009 is it faster than FM2008

[d d]

Hello

I just wondered what people though play's faster.

The new one or the previous one?

[Wakers]

FM2008 by far.

[bigguyinthesky]

Hello

I just wondered what people though play's faster.

The new one or the previous one?

on mine fm 08 was faster 3d takes its time starting up and the processing seems longer but it give me time to post on here lol

[d d]

I thought that.

When you watch it in 3d it take ages to start up or it could be my computer.

[Terras-FM]

I think it runs quicker

[bish]

fm08 by far...i just have commentary and full speed, it is very slow and frustrating!

[sylane93]

fm09 is like a snail crawling up the wall on my laptop

[eshaan]

FM 09 is the most frustratingly slow game ...08 was amazingly fast

[VonBlade]

FM09 is an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping. FM08 is a leopard.

[trekman]

FM 09 is the most frustratingly slow game ...08 was amazingly fast

Judging by the specs you posted in another thread I would say the problem is with your computer and not the game.

[eshaan]

Agreed i just hope there was a version of FM 09 without the 3d so people with crap computers could play it at proper speed but i guess SI have to advance so no problems. Il just revert to FM 08 with data updates

[Twellman24]

Fm 09 is faster for me! Weird!

[Serpico]

It's a bit slower, for sure. Getting rid of the second match slider didn't help this. That said, it's still fast enough for me, running 12 countries.

[clarkeoh]

the new fm is faster, but i dont play with the 3D im not a fan. Though iv'e never liked change.......

[msadler04]

FM08 is far quicker on my machine with the same spec as last year...FM09 is very slow on 3d, slow processing and stutters on 2d...was perfectly fine last year :-(

[DietSpam]

Fm 08 is faster for me.

[lee50_11]

08 was faster for me

[trekman]

Agreed i just hope there was a version of FM 09 without the 3d so people with crap computers could play it at proper speed but i guess SI have to advance so no problems. Il just revert to FM 08 with data updates

If your computer isn't good enough for 3D then you should still be able to play the game in 2D especially if you were able to play FM2008. Have you downloaded and installed the patch?

[dindle]

I actually have found '09 to be slightly faster, and more responsive.

[Mr.Grandpa]

I actually have found '09 to be slightly faster, and more responsive.

Same thing for me FM 09 faster

[D-man98]

I find fm09 much slower and this is making me rather bored of this game now.

[eshaan]

If your computer isn't good enough for 3D then you should still be able to play the game in 2D especially if you were able to play FM2008. Have you downloaded and installed the patch?

Yes i have downloaded and installed the patch. After downloading the directx file from microsoft my game is working but what im saying is its really really slow. Decided to go back to FM 08 hopefully with some good data updates!

[Mattek]

Unfortunately FM09 feels slower for me and still hell no idea why TBH (I'm not talking about 3D - I don't even use it).

[gunner2003]

Me to in 08 i played with 12 leagues. Now i'm playing with 3 in 09 and it's much slower. 8 hours played and still in season one.

My computer specs are:
Amd 6000+ dual core 3.1 ghz
3072 MB ram
nvidia geforce 7900 GTX

so thats not the point

[Zepp]

My system specs are fine to run the game, but with 3 leagues running it's stupidly slow.

Even on 2D it's unbearable

[kopite1990]

Im confused slightly...

Ive seen a lot of people on this forum suggest that FM 2009 is the best one yet.

However the comments in this thread that suggest it is slow and frustrating must surely contradict this?

Im not getting the game myself until next Friday.

So are people still finding it enjoyable despite it being slow?...Or is this ruining the game for you?

[Goon14]

I find fm09 much slower and this is making me rather bored of this game now.

same here as i spend most of the time waiting for 3d to load. i play crysis warhead at the highest resolution level and runs 3times quicker than fm09 makes the game boring

[DevonSpurs]

FM08 by a mile, I find it annoying when I go to make a sub, or a tactical switch, there is always a slight pause in the game.

[Serpico]

Im confused slightly...

Ive seen a lot of people on this forum suggest that FM 2009 is the best one yet.

However the comments in this thread that suggest it is slow and frustrating must surely contradict this?

Im not getting the game myself until next Friday.

So are people still finding it enjoyable despite it being slow?...Or is this ruining the game for you?

Slower but more fun.

[Wakers]

Im confused slightly...

Ive seen a lot of people on this forum suggest that FM 2009 is the best one yet.

However the comments in this thread that suggest it is slow and frustrating must surely contradict this?

Im not getting the game myself until next Friday.

So are people still finding it enjoyable despite it being slow?...Or is this ruining the game for you?

It wouldn't be so bad, but if you want to watch things in 2d classic view, for some mystical reason whenever you go into your tactics it has to load the 3d engine, which can take up to 10 seconds, even on my machine.

That and the code is getting so clunky that sometimes the interface, particularly on match days, gets ridiculously unresponsive, which I think is related to the dodgy threading coding problem that causes the game to freeze on some multi-core machines.

[kopite1990]

It wouldn't be so bad, but if you want to watch things in 2d classic view, for some mystical reason whenever you go into your tactics it has to load the 3d engine, which can take up to 10 seconds, even on my machine.

That and the code is getting so clunky that sometimes the interface, particularly on match days, gets ridiculously unresponsive, which I think is related to the dodgy threading coding problem that causes the game to freeze on some multi-core machines.

Appreciate the info and response pal

[sawu]

I think you'll find (judging from comments on these forums) that if you have a good, recent computer, FM09 is actually likely to be quicker.

BUT... only if you at least 4GB RAM, quick dual/quad core processor, a hq graphics card (ie 4850/4870), and fully updated drivers for all hardware.

I.e. all those people with laptops who could happily play FM in the past, are likely to be disappointed by the speed of FM09, unless they have a custom built machine.

[Wakers]

I think you'll find (judging from comments on these forums) that if you have a good, recent computer, FM09 is actually likely to be quicker.

BUT... only if you at least 4GB RAM, quick dual/quad core processor, a hq graphics card (ie 4850/4870), and fully updated drivers for all hardware.

I.e. all those people with laptops who could happily play FM in the past, are likely to be disappointed by the speed of FM09, unless they have a custom built machine.

I have all of the above, its much slower than 08.

Although I should also say, in between games, the processing time is exactly the same, or near as damnit.

[sawu]

It wouldn't be so bad, but if you want to watch things in 2d classic view, for some mystical reason whenever you go into your tactics it has to load the 3d engine, which can take up to 10 seconds, even on my machine.

That and the code is getting so clunky that sometimes the interface, particularly on match days, gets ridiculously unresponsive, which I think is related to the dodgy threading coding problem that causes the game to freeze on some multi-core machines.

I think most of your comments are spot on, Wakers...

..But if you untick the 3D engine in the preferences, surely the game doesn't have to load the 3D engine as you suggest? That would seem silly.

[Wayne\'o]

it's def slower but i think it's self explanitery. 3d isnt in use every moment the game is loaded so playing matches will obviously need to load it. FM09 is designed to work on high end machines or modern components.

despite what the min specs are, you need way way above them for a quick gaming experiance. if you think FM09 is slow wait untill next year and the year after lol this will seem like a sprinter on steriods.

[javier_83]

i fell a little bit slower, sometimes the game have some kind of lag, but its ok

[FM1000]

FM 2008 by far!

[Wakers]

I think most of your comments are spot on, Wakers...

..But if you untick the 3D engine in the preferences, surely the game doesn't have to load the 3D engine as you suggest? That would seem silly.

Havent tried that to be honest because sometimes i switch between the two depending on the match. However i do find it silly that if you wanna watch the game in 2d its forced to load the 3d game engine when you hit the tactics button

[kevinM182]

09 is alot faster on mines i'm playing about 54 leagues were as on 08 i could go about 35 maximum

[Wakers]

09 is alot faster on mines i'm playing about 54 leagues were as on 08 i could go about 35 maximum

Someone remind me how many leagues there are in FM again? 51 isn't it?

[kopite1990]

...Does anyone fancy telling me how FM is likely to run on my laptop?

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[Wakers]

Slowly .

[kopite1990]

Slowly .

Cheers anyway mate!

[Wakers]

Cheers anyway mate!

Actually im not sure if your gfx card is supported, might want to check up on that.

[LAHoward]

reguardless if someone has a powerful machine or a dinasour 09 should be slower. more processes = slower!

[LAHoward]

...Does anyone fancy telling me how FM is likely to run on my laptop?

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300)

need to update Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

Home Edition not XP Pro

[kopite1990]

need to update Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

Home Edition not XP Pro

Care to elaborate on how I would go about that mate?

[LAHoward]

google windows update and when you get to site just click update

[kopite1990]

google windows update and when you get to site just click update

Thanks a lot mate, really appreciate any help

[LAHoward]

google.com

[Maestro_DK]

08 is a lot faster on my laptop

4gb Ram
T9300 core 2 duo 2,5 ghz
GeForce 8600M GT 512mb
Vista home premium 64bit

With FM08 I could run the best league from all contries with a lage db and the wating time was okay, but with 09 it's just muuuuuch to slow to run the same setup

[Clavin99]

FM08 ran a lot faster than FM09. It has taken me 13 hours to get to January. :|

[rekluse]

They run the same when processing after continuing for me, but loading into the ME takes longer in 09 but understandable.

[Trevez]

I didn't play FM08. I had FM07 and with quite an old PC now with 512MB, Pentium 4 2GHz and on Windows XP it ran fine. FM09 is so much slower and is frustrating as it takes 5 mins sometimes to process fixtures. It can't even play with 3D and the 2D is just jumpy. So annoying!!!

[Wakers]

That is a seriously dated machine though, Trevez, you can't expect FM releases to stay at the same spec year on year on year.

[roykela]

For me 08 was much faster than 09 is. I also get random black screens and white screens while it's starting a new match or i just finished a match. Could probably be because i'm running it in windowed 1920x1200 resolution.
But back to the point.

08 is, by far, faster than 09 on my computer.

[CowSimao]

Yes and No.

Faster going through menus for me, but slower going through the match engine.

[leedsam]

09 is so slow. It makes me feel better that others are having the same problem. But it takes so long just to get thriugh one week of games. It is starting to be a very big annoyance.

[Pup8]

09 = Slooooowwwwwww

[Charlezz]

08 Definitely

[pelicanstuff]

I've been doing a lot of tweaking to my system and I actually find now that 09 runs faster than previous versions, especially the fixture processing. I had some slight UI lag before as well, but that seems to be gone now too.

Loading the 3D of course makes viewing the matches a little bit slower though.

[ram2007]

I dont play Matches in 3D but still feel that overall 2008 is faster and more smoother doesnt glitch, freeze for few minutes etc etc.

2009 seems to have too many new features and so much bigger then most systems can handle even with updates and software still seems a bit to much to handle as 2008 was pretty simple and ok.

[velonce]

My laptop isn't even 2 years old and it struggles with FM09 badly whilst FM08 was no problem. In short, you better have a PC if you don't want to be drowned out by the noise of laptop fans.

[pelicanstuff]

I'm managing to do fine on my laptop, but then I have a fast hard drive in it and have done some nice tweaks for performance in the power settings and in task manager.

Also, I can't believe the number of people who play with their antivirus auto-protect running or not set to exclude FM files, this slows it down massively as well as being IMO the #1 cause of savegame corruption.

[RedZone85]

I noticed FM09 is pretty fast EXCEPT when i start a match it gets really slow e.g. takes 15-25 seconds to set up the match, in FM08 it only take 5 seconds or less! So i guess SI balanced it out. But i dont wanna imagine what would happen in 2015?

[LAHoward]

Integrity may need some tweaking in here

[aq_extreme]

FM08 for sure...

[Stormwind City]

In FM08 you could complete a season MUCH faster.

- Bevor each game there are up to 25s loading times. This is despite the fact that I am not using 3d (removed it in the preferences).
- The 2D on my computer has amazingly low "frame rates". Almost kills the game for me, which is very sad...
- ...this combined with the fact that we now only have one slider to control the match speed this means that matches take much more time to process
- The overall processing speed when calculating games also seems to be lower on my machine (for example when calculating world cup qualification games)

For me FM09 is so slow that it is not much fun anymore. I didn´t have similar problems with FM08 or any of the previous games. So, while my computer certainly is not extremely fast (1,6 GHz Pentium M, 1Gig RAM, Ati X600 graphics card), the additional calculations in FM09 are the main problem.

[Dylanliu]

yeah, slightly faster than fm2008

[Rb]

Its a bit faster than FM08 I've found

[PGB_SPURS_FM09]

Well i originally had a laptop that didn't run the games brilliantly... 2d was very jittery. But i just got a new laptop yesterday and its fast and works really well. If you want best performance then a new machine is best! If your machine is real good it'll be quicker then 08 but if you don't it will feel a lot slower and laggyer! ITs only loading of match that takes a little bit

[eshaan]

Well 09 is super slow for me and iv gone back to 08 but well im not complaining. SI has to move forward with the times and advance their games. And 09 is a super super game albeit a little slow.

[roykela]

Well i originally had a laptop that didn't run the games brilliantly... 2d was very jittery. But i just got a new laptop yesterday and its fast and works really well. If you want best performance then a new machine is best! If your machine is real good it'll be quicker then 08 but if you don't it will feel a lot slower and laggyer! ITs only loading of match that takes a little bit

My machine is brand new, and it's certainly hell of a lot better than the machine i was running 08 on. Yet it just seems like it runs much slower for me.
Care to give some tips?

[PGB_SPURS_FM09]

All i can say is make sure your OS is up to date and stuff :s

What are your specs? I got a gaming laptop lol with a 7200RPM HDD and mines real fast Though i haven't got much time to play but as i'm being made redundant i've been given back the holiday that was supposed to be taken at Xmas so I may take a week off just to play FM

[ANDEHLSON]

They both run exactly at same speed for me... but at least im someone who upgrades the computer more than once every 6 years.

Quad Core powah

[iamweesel]

It is slower

[owenok]

i just got the demo working last night and its way to slow for me so wont be buying it.

[roykela]

All i can say is make sure your OS is up to date and stuff :s

What are your specs? I got a gaming laptop lol with a 7200RPM HDD and mines real fast Though i haven't got much time to play but as i'm being made redundant i've been given back the holiday that was supposed to be taken at Xmas so I may take a week off just to play FM

Everything on my computer is up to date (as far as i know)

And my specs are : Intel Core2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz 4GB Ram (3.6 GB Ram in reality)
HDD 7200 RPM
Geforce GTX 260 896-2291 MB
Display 1920x1200 59Hz
Windows Vista Home Premium


I realize now that i have a different CPU than i thought. Thought it was Q6600 (don't know much about that stuff )

I normally tweak the computer as much as i can so i don't run services i don't need and all that. But it seems like that didn't really make a difference.
I run 6 countries with the lowest divisions on playable in all the countries. Something which is far less than i ran on a CoreDuo 3,06GHZ with 2GB Ram and 7200RPM Harddrive. But that was on Windows XP Home.
I also experience a black (sometimes white) screen everytime i start and finish a match. I take it when it's going in to 3D view and going out from the 3D view.
Any suggestions would be great.

[evanjonesaber]

I don't bother with 3D.
I really enjoy before and after the games - that runs pretty much the same as 08 for me.
But the matches are a pain in the jacksie!

That 3D engine (even thoug I don't use it still loads up) is a mole on the ass of society.

Changing tactics/subs mid match is a royal hassle too - setting up match pause for 10-15 seconds! It's so aggravating!!!!

[tarbanrael]

well funnily enough, on my PC, i found out that fm09 was a lot faster than the previous installment!
And the fact we can have higher resolution as well makes it all the more better

[d d]

I agree with Eshaan.

FM2009 is a very good game but it's very slow.

Compared to 2008 or 2007.

2007 run so fast on my machine and 2008 was quick but not as quick the previous game. But as i suppose every new game that come comes out on the same machine will eventually start running slow because every new game that comes out needs more processing.

I may go back to 2008 because i quite like that game or try and persevere with 2009.

[Mattek]

I don't bother with 3D.
I really enjoy before and after the games - that runs pretty much the same as 08 for me.
But the matches are a pain in the jacksie!

That 3D engine (even thoug I don't use it still loads up) is a mole on the ass of society.

Changing tactics/subs mid match is a royal hassle too - setting up match pause for 10-15 seconds! It's so aggravating!!!!

I second that, mate. The main pain in the ass are match days and matches themselves. The interface is just so unresponsive and everything needs too much time to load despite I don't even use 3D. Also my computer starts to stress like crazy (cpu fan, gpu fan).

Other than this I can't complain about processing other games (league, cups, internationalls) but, SI, can you improve just a little bit the thing that has been mentioned here by many of us???

[Liam13]

i really thought that it was my laptop that was makin it slow but seems like everyone's on the same boat!
does any1 else think that it doesnt take as long to get through a season??
it seems that thers less to do between games??

[d d]

I took my fm out of windowed mode and all of a sudden the game quicken up.

It used to take 10 minutes for the clock to play 90 minutes and now it's take 5. I just wondered is it because i took it out of window mode. i could be wrong but all of sudden it is playing quick.

[rohypnocroc]

FM09 definitley runs slower than 08 but my PC is a four yr old P4 with only 1.5g of ram so im not gonna start complaining.

I need to buy a new PC anyway but i am a bit concerned that people are saying that 09 runs slower on high end PCs. Anyone got any idea how fast it will run if i get the set up below?


AMD Phenom Quad Core
8gb Ram
64 bit Vista
nVidia 9500 gt 1024mb

[Wakers]

^ Pretty quickly but it will still be slower than FM08

[rohypnocroc]

Damn! The processing time between days isnt a problem really its going into the tactics screen during the match, it takes about 30 clicks to get anything to happen. Thought it might just be my ancient pc. Gonna buy it anyway and hope the 2nd patch fixes this.

[Ronkeuren]

My system specs are fine to run the game, but with 3 leagues running it's stupidly slow.

Even on 2D it's unbearable

me to FM08 Great!! FM09 so slow that i dont play it anymore.

Specs :

Q6600
3 GB 800Mhz Memory Kingston
500 GB HD
Nvidia 9600GT

5 country's
6 Competitions

SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!1

[pelicanstuff]

Looks like it is pretty much only with people with quad core processors that are finding the game significantly slower than expected given their specs. hmmmm....

[mlp071]

'09 is faster then '07, but slightly slower then '08 (i play with 100+ leagues, all versions). Considering that you are getting something that is playable in comparison to inferior '08(even 07 was better then 08), it's small price to pay.

I got "only" dual-core and 2GB ram , and still running '09 with no problems.

[andersonn]

FM 09 is very very slow that i cant enjoy playing it.i wont play Fm 09 anymore and go back to FM 08.

İ have Q6600(3.0 ghz),8800GT,3 gb ram and 500 gb hdd.

[Tasque]

That's what happens when you don't code from the ground up and use Java instead. Game can't even take advantage of new hardware. No wonder they don't make a benchmark.

[Mikal]

FM09 is definately slower than 08, but not significant enough that it will stop me playing... I'm running around 15 leagues and the slowness is pretty minimal for me. Mainly slow when at the beginning of a match and the 3D is loading.

[msadler04]

Just upgraded my pc as 3d wasnt working very well on my machine. Gone from a 128mb graphics card to a 512mb with my p.4 2.8ghz processor and 2gb ram.....3d is watchable but still slightly jerky and it miles above the spec.

[craigy18181]

FM09 is rapid on mine, its the fastest I have ever had a FM run on my system. I did upgrade to 3 gig though

[Riffraff]

For me it's a bit slower than the 2008 version.
I'm running three leagues - Premiership, Bundesliga and Serie A.

If you want to improve the game speed then I suggest changing the detail level to 'minimum' (really, who wants to view every single detail of the Olympic or Euro Championship?).

Ticking the 'skin cache' box should also help.

There is also a 'Threading' option in Preferences (refer to manual for more details)

To improve the save / load speed unmark the 'Compress saved games' box.

[Swindont]

09 is alot slower for me than 08

Im running the same three leagues as i did in 08 but it lags and it generally slow.

[roykela]

Looks like it is pretty much only with people with quad core processors that are finding the game significantly slower than expected given their specs. hmmmm....

I've been noticing that too.

[jedclough]

anybody else's heart sink when you get to processing league cup results!

[djclipz]

i find it very slow compared to 08 but only some of the time its strange, seems to be very tempremental And im runnin 2gig of ram on xp as well and find it uses a hell of a lot of it up while playing the game!!

Try this for me please when you don't have a job and click on manager overview how long does it take for this screen to load!! For me its literally about 20-30seconds!!! (Only happens when you don't have a club!!)