The World’s Best Football Manager Challenge

[pnefc22]

The World’s Best Football Manager Challenge

What you have to do: You have to travel around the world moving clubs and collect all the trophy’s listed below. I will create a scoreboard but it will not consist of points for each trophy but for which trophies you have won and how many trophies’s you have won. If you complete this challenge, you will be crowned the world’s best football manager. This challenge will end when FM10 comes out and someone will be crowned The World’s Best Football Manager. If no-one completes this challenge, then the person leading at the time will be crowned the champion.

You may start as the club of your choice.

You must start a new game, preferably on 09 but previous versions of the game will be accepted. The leagues that you must load are:

• England (Prem to BSN/S)
• Spain (La Liga and Liga BBVA)
• Italy (Seria A and B)
• Argentina (Premier Division)
• Portugal (Bwin Liga)
• France (Ligue 1 Orange)
• China (Super League)
• Brazil (First Division)
• Germany (First Division)
• Mexico (First Division)
• Russia (Premier Division)
• Malaysia (Super League)
• Australia (A-League)

There are 20 leagues in total here. Everyone you must dominate for at least one season, in order for you to collect all of the trophies listed below.

The trophies you must collect are:

Europe

England

• English Premiership
• Coca-Cola Championship
• Coca-Cola League One
• Coca-Cola League Two
• Blue Square Premiership
• Blue Square North
• Blue Square South
• F.A Cup
• League Cup
• Johnstone’s Paint Trophy
• F.A Trophy
• English Setanta Shield
• Community Shield

Spain

• La Liga
• Liga BBVA
• Spanish Cup
• Spanish Super Cup

Italy

• Seria A
• Seria B
• Italian Super Cup
• Italian Cup

France

• French Ligue 1 Orange
• French Cup
• French Coupe De La Ligue
• French Champions Trophy

German

• German First Division
• German Cup
• German League Cup

Portugal

• Bwin Liga
• Portuguese Cup
• Portuguese League Cup
• Portuguese Super Cup

Russia

• Russian Premier Division
• Russian Cup
• Russian Super Cup

Others

• European Champions League
• European Super Cup
• Euro Cup (Uefa Cup)

Asia

China

• Chinese Super League
• Chinese FA Cup

Malaysia

• Malaysian Super League
• Malaysia Cup
• Malaysian FA Cup

Others

• Asian Champions Cup
• Asian Confederations Cup
• South East Asian Club Championship
• East Asian Champions Cup

The America’s

Argentina

• Argentinean Premier Division

Brazil

• Brazilian First Division
• Brazilian Minas Gerais State Championship
• Brazilian Gaucho State Championship
• Brazilian Rio De Janeiro State Championship
• Brazilian Sao Paulo State Championship
• Brazilian Cup

Mexico

• Mexican First Division
• Mexican First Division Champions Trophy
• Mexican Interliga

Others

• North American Champions Cup
• North American SuperLiga
• South American Copa Libertadores
• South American Copa Sudamericana
• South American Recopa

Australasia

Australia

• A-League
• Pre-Season Cup
• Hyundai A-League Finals Series

Others

• Oceanic Club Championships

Worldwide

• Club World Championships

International Challenges

• World Cup
• European Championships
• African Nations
• Asian Cup
• North American Gold Cup
• Copa America
• Oceania Nations Cup
• Confederations Cup

International Challenges (UN 23, 21, 20, 19)

• World Cup U20
• European Championships U21
• European Championships U19
• SAM U20 Championships

Important Information

Database Size: Any
Load all players from: Anywhere
Game Start Date: England (July 2007) or other if you explain your choice.
Enable Player Attribute Masking: It’s your choice

You must use real players
All leagues must be playable
You must allow transfer budgets in first season

To complete the challenge, you must provide proof (screenshots) to show that you have done this.

Good luck and let the games begin!

If you have any suggestions to improve this challenge, please post them below.

If you want another league added or one removed, please post below and I will consider it and see what other people think about it.

[ssestig]

the 'impossible' challenge returns. i will probably try this on fm08 and start in the morning.

[Lower Leagues Rule]

My only question would be why the lowest leagues in England, but not in germany, France, Spain, Italy? The lower league game is a lot more entertaining and challenging over there
Also funny thing with this challenge is if you make the promotion playoffs you want to lose to get another shot at the title :P

[rancer890]

Where's MLS? You got no love for that league!

Not sure if I'm going to try this, but I am currently trying very hard to complete the China part of this challenge through another thread.

With all these challenges it's hard to choose which ones I want to do! (excluding the obvious ones of course )

[rancer890]

And to add it is officially impossible to complete this challenge. Chinese teams only play in the Asian Champions League, and Malaysian teams can play in the AFC Cup (Confederations Cup). No team playable in FM can play in the President's Cup, which is only for 'developing nations'.

Sorry if it's sounds a bit mean or anything, just saying it from my experience in Asia.

[MTC]

And to add it is officially impossible to complete this challenge. Chinese teams only play in the Asian Champions League, and Malaysian teams can play in the AFC Cup (Confederations Cup). No team playable in FM can play in the President's Cup, which is only for 'developing nations'.

Sorry if it's sounds a bit mean or anything, just saying it from my experience in Asia.

This isn't entirely true, the way it worked on FM08 is that each year two countries get 'promoted' and two countries get 'relegated' among the AFC tournaments. The team that wins the AFC Cup gets their country into the AFC Champions League for the next year, the team that wins the AFC President's Cup gets their country into the AFC Cup for the next year, and they each replaced a country whose teams did badly in the group stage in that year. This is not how it worked in real life, but it is what happened in the game. I don't know if it works in a similar way on FM09 though.

So if you were to do badly in the AFC Cup group stage as a Malaysian team, you might play in the President's Cup in the next year, not that I'm saying it should be part of this challenge though.

[pnefc22]

Where's MLS? You got no love for that league!

Not sure if I'm going to try this, but I am currently trying very hard to complete the China part of this challenge through another thread.

With all these challenges it's hard to choose which ones I want to do! (excluding the obvious ones of course )

I know there are alot of challenges at the moment. I was unsure as to whether I should launch my challenge now or just wait until people had had a go at some of the other well-known challenges, such as dafuges and yours, rancer890. But, I decided I might as well start it now.

I was thinking about the MLS but many people dislike managing in that league, so I thought it was better not to include it.

But, if at least 5 people want it, I will add it.

[pnefc22]

Thanks for clearing that up rancer and MTC on the President's Cup. I thought that you could win it but, I will remove it from the challenge to clear it up. Plus, just incase you can't win it.

[pnefc22]

My only question would be why the lowest leagues in England, but not in germany, France, Spain, Italy? The lower league game is a lot more entertaining and challenging over there
Also funny thing with this challenge is if you make the promotion playoffs you want to lose to get another shot at the title :P

Yeah, I never thought about the playoff thing. That should be funny!
I choose the lowest leagues in England because I thought people would be more familiar with them.
I didn't choose the lower leagues in Spain and Italy etc. because I didn't want too many leagues just incase too many people could not run it if their computers were not too good.

[padmore_001]

Would really like to give this a go when I get my copy of the game next week.

But just a quick question, is there any restrictions on what team we start at?

Oh and I also think MLS would be a good addition

[pnefc22]

Would really like to give this a go when I get my copy of the game next week.

But just a quick question, is there any restrictions on what team we start at?

Oh and I also think MLS would be a good addition

Good to have you having a go.
Once we get a few more people, I will make a scoresheet/board.

There are no restrictions on who you start with. If people want restrictions, please state what you want.

If you want to make it even harder, then you could start unemployed with past experience of semi-pro(get lower league and jobs in Asia) or professional(get most jobs apart from top jobs).

If one or two more want MLS, I will add it.

This is the same for lower leagues in Italy, Spain and Germany.

[blowcrapup]

I would love to try this but I'm not sure my comp could handle it. The MLS is a good place to manage but can be hard if you haven't done it before. I may have a go in the future after I've had a go at Dafuges.

[ssestig]

my computer won't take a save with all these leagues. is there any chance that i can take part by using different saves please where i don't start a new save until i've got all i can get in the previous save.

[pnefc22]

Yeah sure ssestig. I knew some peoples comps would not be able to handle that amount of leagues, so you can do that.

[pnefc22]

Plus, ssestig how many leagues can you run?
And, what database do you normally run?
I know there is no limit on database but I was just wondering because I can handle most of the leagues but only ever play on medium database. I never considered large because I don't see it as too much use. Although, I may be wrong.
And, lastly do you like managing in the MLS and in the lower divisions of spain, italy and germany.

[pnefc22]

I will be posting my updates tomorrow(when I get the game). That is as long as I can authenticate via phone. Anyone know if it is a freephone number?

Has anyone started this yet?If so, have you got any updates.

[PERCIVA11]

I'm not that sad to try this sorry :P

[Lower Leagues Rule]

Yeah, I never thought about the playoff thing. That should be funny!
I choose the lowest leagues in England because I thought people would be more familiar with them.
I didn't choose the lower leagues in Spain and Italy etc. because I didn't want too many leagues just incase too many people could not run it if their computers were not too good.

Thanks for the clarification, I think what I like in the lower leagues of in particular Italy is that it is all so tight, even if you try to sign the best free's available you will still battle to get somewhere, I am tempted by a game along these lines, but it might have to come after I have a crack at JoseRR's challenge, as I said love those lower leagues, and with no one completing it in 2008 we are likely to have a good run trying this season, hopefully Rlipscombe will be joining me to get that thread pumping again

As for this one it looks like an awesome second game to have going, though I am torn between this one and the A-Z challenge, though I spose it would be possible to run them alongside each other.

[ssestig]

i'll try to do half the leagues on one save. i'll do england, spain and italy on one save and try the rest on the other.

[pnefc22]

Ok thats good!

[pnefc22]

I'm not that sad to try this sorry :P

Constructive post thanks.

[ssestig]

manager profile: http://s442.photobucket.com/albums/q...gamestatus.jpg
i'm starting with queensland roar in australia.

[pnefc22]

Looking good ssestig. I still havn't got my copy of the game, I'm going to the shop to get it, tomorrow.

[JB]

I will be definatly doing this, probably while im at my dads, as i have a nice save going at my mums

Just waiting for the '09 to finish downloading then ill start it up

[SCIAG]

I actually think I could win this. I just need a PC that can run 09 (which I will get soon).

Also, could you remove the Intertoto Cup, seeing as we only have one year to do it in and you don't "win" it exactly...

[pnefc22]

Sciag, I will remove it, as you are right it isn't really a trophy.

[pnefc22]

Competitors
robertlangman
ssestig
SCIAG
jack.browne

Any updates anyone?

[SCIAG]

Also, are the trophies rated evenly? For example, is the World Cup rated the same as the Setanta Shield?

[pnefc22]

No, unless you think that it is a good idea to have them rated evenly?

Plus, do you want the MLS included? As some people have said that they think that it should be included as it is a good league to manage in.

I will have an update soon but I still havn't got 09 and don't know whether to start one of these on 08.

[SCIAG]

I was just enquiring, as you started the challenge it's really up to you.

I hate the MLS personally, but if people want it in the challenge I'm happy to go with that.

[pnefc22]

No I think I will have certain competitions worth more than others for example the World Cup is worth more than the Setanta SHield as you have to get a decent international job to win the world cup wheras you can get any BSN/S or BSN job to win the Setanta SHield.

I am going to leave the MLS out unless a load of people come on shouting 'MLS!''MLS!''MLS!'

[JWB935]

Stupid question, can you start as anyone? Ive rerad and cannot see whether you start unemployd or wherever you want.

[pnefc22]

Yes, you can start as whatever club you want

[Bubba22plus]

nvm problem solved

also, how 'bout scotland?

[pnefc22]

Scotland would be a good idea but just their top league.

What do you think?

Bubba, have you started this?

[Bubba22plus]

no i haven't started yet, i'm planning on it, is scotland ok?

[Icelander83]

I'm gonna give this a little go, don't expect me to last too long though Going to start in Russia, unemployed with the highest rep so that jobs are opening up in the big leagues in Europe. I don't want to be choosing a starting point as such but rather take something that appeals to me as and when it's offered. Hope that's okay as the game is loading as I write This has a lot more leagues than I usually load so I have no idea how my computer will handle it... Update to follow sometime soon-ish(-ly)

[pnefc22]

Ok great, I anticipate your update.

I have got the game, so will start this up and give you an update soon.

[pnefc22]

I got the game on friday night, if anyone was wondering why I hadn't done an update for my own challenge yet.

I am going to make Scotland optional, Bubba because I don't want to add more leagues at the moment because of the need of a powerful computer.

[ssestig]

i'm not competing in this anymore as i'm too involved in challenges from fm09.

[pnefc22]

This is from FM09 but yeah thats fine, ssestig. There are alot of challenges to choose from at the moment.

[Icelander83]

I'm now the proud manager of Iran and Chinese side Changsha Shortened the contract at Changsha to one year, don't want to have to quit them if it goes badly

[pnefc22]

How did you get the Iran job?

Good idea with the contract, I may do that when I get my first offer.

Did you start with International footballer as experience because surely you could have got a better hob than that if you wanted to?

I guess China is a nice interesting place to start.

[Icelander83]

Yes, started with the highest rep at the start of 2009 (chose the russian league as a start date) and just went through the available jobs it's a brilliant way to start imo

Kinda funny the thought of Iran hiring a 25 year old Icelandic guy

[pnefc22]

How did you get your guy to be set at 25?

I will start up later. I will load the database during Top Gear

[Icelander83]

Just put in my real birthday. It's put me at 25 in charge of Celtic as well so it would appear the age thing has been changed this time out.

[pnefc22]

Ok will try that because I hate being called 30.

Would much rather prefer 25

25 is the lowest you can go, I believe.

[DennisIran]

Im in ill start in Malaysia october 2008

[pnefc22]

Competitors
robertlangman
SCIAG
jack.browne
DennisIran
Icelander83
JWB83
Bubba22plus

[pnefc22]

Will try and do an update with my job etc. for tomorrow but I have I.T coursework for wednesday and english coursework for friday, so it could be difficult.

[pnefc22]

What job have you got in Malaysia?

I managed them in 08 with Melaka Telekom and it was a good file.

[Icelander83]

This is just great! 2 minutes into my first match of my career, which happens to be Iran vs Singapore, the ball is passed back to my keeper who promptly whacks it off the head of an attacker and into the goal.

Things better pick up from here!

EDIT: 1-1 on 5 minutes

[pnefc22]

Rolling on floor laughing!

Do you think you will win an international competition with Iran?

[Icelander83]

Well, some of the Iranian players are very, very good, so I wouldn't rule out an asian title.

Won 4-2 in the end, the 3rd goal was "dubious". I wouldn't agree with that, he was miles offside, nothing dubious about it Hashemian > *

[DennisIran]

Ehem OFCOURSE HE CAN WIN WITH IRAN THEY WILL WIN THE WORLD CUP 2010 just wait and see(real life now)



dodododo Iran... still waiting for the freaking game to start

btw i won wc 2010 with iran

and in this game there are som really good young players like Hajsafi Amraei and Mosalman

[Icelander83]

Ehem OFCOURSE HE CAN WIN WITH IRAN THEY WILL WIN THE WORLD CUP 2010 just wait and see(real life now)



dodododo Iran... still waiting for the freaking game to start

Am I the only one thinking of John McCain's Beach Boys "impersonation"?

[Icelander83]

37 year old Alireza Mansourian has just thanked me for the confidence I showed him and enabled him to score his first international goal

I have started bringing joy and happyness to where I travel

[DennisIran]

Its good that you belive in Iran

btw i started with Kedah in malaysia

[Icelander83]

It's easy to believe in them tbh, a better tactician than me could very concievably win the 2010 world cup in the game. I, however, will be quite happy if i even get to the finals

[NateKAPOW]

im going to try this

[pnefc22]

Good to have you NateKAPOW.

I remember Kedah, they play in yellow don't they? They were my title contenders on the game and always after my stars. Plus, they best me in the cup final.

[DennisIran]

Yep Kedah play in yellow

Yey i won Asian Confederation cup Semifinal game against Al-Nassar from oman 2-2 went trough on away goals

[pnefc22]

So are you in the final and do you think you will win it?

If you do, it means that you will be leading the challenge with one trophy

[DennisIran]

damn first final leg went to hell they won 2-3 .now on the next away game i got to score atleast 2 goals against a team with three times the better players

[DennisIran]

lost the final 3-3 he won on away goals damn

[pnefc22]

Unlucky!

Always next year though!

[DennisIran]

Yea true Anyway i won the Malaysian Cup 2-1

[Icelander83]

I have to put this on hold until a later date, the game insists on freezing a lot when I'm starting the Iran games. Had to try three times to get the first one going and it's frozen 3 times on the second. I really can't be arsed with closing it and loading again and again so I am taking a break from this one

[padmore_001]

Ok so I said I would give this a go so here I am. Started with unemployed with lowest rep and though I would see what sort of job I could get. Just taken over Mahkota FC in Malaysia. Updates to follow, but I dunno how much I will get done in the next week, loadssss of uni work.

[pnefc22]

Yeah, I have got a lot of coursework so won't get much playing time until friday.

Anyway, good luck padmore 001!

You've made it even harder for yourself because of your automatic reputation, it will take a fair few years to build up until you get a bigger tem but I guess there are plenty of lower leagues to win.

[pnefc22]

Alright, I'm loading the database now.

I'm not including Scotland or the MLS, as that would mean it will take me longer and I am wary of these leagues.

I am going to start unemployed with the top reputation I think.

In fact, you can decide.

Should I start with the lowest or highest rep?

[Icelander83]

Do what I intended to do highest rep and start with a Russian start (has to be 2009). Could even do that and holiday a couple of months to get more choice

[pnefc22]

Seeing as you were the first response, I will start in Jan 2009(Russia) and with the higest rep for maximum job oppurtunities.

[cletus]

Thinking about starting this one up. Is anyone still doing it?

Planning to go Downunder and start with the mighty Central Coast Mariners. Bit worried though, that the new patch won't be save-game compatible, so I might wait until it's released.

[MANNAMAL]

Impossible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pnefc22]

I think that the new patch will be save game compatible because otherwise you would get some angry people.

Thats a nice place to start.

I will put you on the competitiors list.

[ri916]

this challenge looked interesting, someone should redo it.

[Tactic Master]

I could probably set this up But unfortunately I wouldn't be taking part yet