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    Started playing FM 07 in the week. Still a great game. Started a new game with Aldershot and really enjoying it at the moment.

    If the new patch doesn't sort this game out , I might stay with it.

    Has any else left the current game alone while they try and sort the game out?

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    Started playing FM 07 in the week. Still a great game. Started a new game with Aldershot and really enjoying it at the moment.

    If the new patch doesn't sort this game out , I might stay with it.

    Has any else left the current game alone while they try and sort the game out?

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    i have got a little bored of fm08, not many issues/bugs in my game, but going back to 07 wouldn't work for me, because there are so many features that i have gotten used to.

    might go back to 06, for a laugh.

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    I've gone back to 07.

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    I went back to 07 a while ago. Funnily enough I also started as Aldershot.

    I can't believe there are still people who think there's nothing wrong with 08.

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    What are the odds....

    I got so fed up with FM08, i started another FM07 game, and chose Aldershot.!

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    quote:
    Originally posted by The Rob:
    I went back to 07 a while ago. Funnily enough I also started as Aldershot.

    I can't believe there are still people who think there's nothing wrong with 08.


    there weren't "many" hairs on my chinny-chin-chin this morning. but i still had a shave. you dig?

    there are indeed less problems with 07 fully patched than 08, but none in 08 to really really stop me enjoying the game. once 08 is patched, most of the issues will hopefully be fixed and i doubt that 07 reverters won't at least try it again after the patch. there are little additions that i would miss from 08, that's all i said.

    unless you weren't refering to what i said.

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    I was forced to after 08 died on me, how can they sell a game that randomly minamizes and comes up with a error before letting you carry on and then it happeneing again 10 seconds later! Then they can't fix it!

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    I still play FM07, for me it's the best in the series. I tried the demo for FM08 but I was a little underwhelmed and I saw a lot of other people were dissapointed by it, so I probably won't buy it (or at least, until SI make a proper patch).

    I fancied a change so I've started a game in India with East Bengal to try and lead them to world domination.

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    Whilst I do feel a fully patched FM07 was better, I couldn't go back. I'd miss the game being up to date, I'd miss the new features, even if most of them were underwhelming and I'd miss the improved speed.

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    Gone back to 07. I dont think that 8.0.2 will improve 08 enough. Waiting 09 and happy with 07.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Watford_fc_4_lyf:
    I was forced to after 08 died on me, how can they sell a game that randomly minamizes and comes up with a error before letting you carry on and then it happeneing again 10 seconds later! Then they can't fix it!


    Firstly, this will be absolutely nothing to do with the game and will be entirely down to some problem with your PC.

    As for going back to 07, not for me. I'm genuinely enjoying 08 immensly. Currently in 2017 with Gateshead in the Championship and yet to experience any problem that takes any enjoyment away from the game for me.

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    My housemate and I jumped back into 07' for our hotseat game, just whilst we wait for the patch. For more fun. But then again, this time last year, we were playing FM 2006

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    quote:
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    Gone back to 07. I dont think that 8.0.2 will improve 08 enough. Waiting 09 and happy with 07.


    Did you ever played 7.0.1?
    I guess not!
    I know that there are flaws still, the amount of chances in a match, registration bug, yellow cards for MC's and some others, but what makes you think these cannot be repaired?

    About going back to FM07, not me, i uninstalled it a month ago and it has now it's spot in my closet next to the previous versions.

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    i can honestly say i dont see any problems with 8.01, i love the game, i think its the best so far!!

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    I've encountered problems with FM08, for sure. But I'd never consider going back to an earlier version.

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    Yep, I went back to my FM07 AFC Wimbledon save. Currently in the year 2032.

    This years version was starting to get on my nerves with the various bugs and it seems regens dont develop properly like they do in 07.

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    Why stop at FM07? Go all the way back to an old CM title.........

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    Went back a while ago - I really have no idea why they chose to tweak the 7.0.2 match engine so much, because the current one is horrible. On each patch on 08, for every problem that gets fixed, another one has seemed to pop up.

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    I've been thinking about going back, but like some others said, i'm just used to the new cool features of '08... So not playing FM at all atm

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    I'm playing FM2007 after growing disillusioned with my FM2008 save game where 2 seasons running, despite a points total which near enough 100% of the time should guarantee promotion, I have failed to get promoted from the Championship. All this despite winning the League Cup as well.

    On FM2007 I have possibly my greatest save game ever at Hammerfest (Most northern town in the world) in Norway. So really its the brilliant save game, rather than FM2007 itself which took me back. Imo there's little difference in quality between the 2 games.

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    Gone back too, enjoying been rangers and i don't know why but it just seems so familier and fun.As while playing 08 patched it just seemed to be a chore and a drag to get through the game.

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    Sure I see some bugs in FM08 but they are not ruining my life.

    Mostly you can work around it.

    I enjoy FM2008 a lot more than FM2007 'cause it's a lot harder to play.

    I brought a Conference League North team to the Premier League in almost one move (only for the Conference Premier League I needed 2 years).

    So, at first glance I thought it was as easy as FM2007.

    But in my first year Premier League I didn't made it, I couldn't avoid degradation.
    Not 'cause bad tactics, weird bugs or stupid playing (ok, I admit I created 3 huge mistakes), but 'cause I was not having Premier League quality.

    And I like this.

    In FM2007 the same team would stay in the Premier League even if I bought a bunch of schoolgirls.

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    I suppose that you can deal with a lot of bugs. As long if youre not chosing spain or turkey. But I can not live with the fact that I'm now in 2018 and that there are no good regens.

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    I've had an old FM07 save running siince well before I bought FM08 and have so far spent far more time still playing that than playing FM08 since I bought it, but I'm having another try with FM08 now having started a game with Whitley Bay (I moved them into Blue Square North) and another with IA Akranes in Iceland.

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    Forgot, I meant to add that despite my having stuck with mostly FM07 I'm not sure I'd start a new game on it though - my other game is ~15 seasons in and well established. Starting a new game and getting into it is always the most difficult bit. My FM07 and FM08 folders are littered with savegames which have not even got through the first pre-season before I lost interest!

    For those who follow the Tour de France (I assume somebody other than me must), it's a bit like trying to get into the day's breakaway group - so many abortive attempts and then suddenly one gets away. I haven't quite found the one that sends me off yet though!

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    quote:
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    I suppose that you can deal with a lot of bugs. As long if youre not chosing spain or turkey. But I can not live with the fact that I'm now in 2018 and that there are no good regens.


    Maybe it's a temporally accidental situation?

    I'm in 2014 and I'm finding good material.

    In real life it can happen that some generations are having less quality in some countries.

    In 1980 Belgium played the European Finals against Germany, later we have beat Russia, Holland and other big names. Present times we almost can't win from Andorra.

    And the English National Team isn't performing as well compared to the past, isn't?

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    after playing the demo i was so unbelievably annoyed with how players dont closedown the opposition that i never bought the game.

    the only problem is i really like the updated players.

    what quite a lot of my friends have done is go back to champman 01/02 but i personally feel Fm 05 was the best.

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    I can't believe anyone would think 07 is better than 08, unless they're desperate to play in Spain.

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    Also went back to FM07 a while ago. Didn't manage Aldershot though, carried on with my last saved game, where I'm currently managing Real Madrid and Turkey.

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    quote:
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    I can't believe anyone would think 07 is better than 08, unless they're desperate to play in Spain.


    or if they want better regens and a confidence system that works properly

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    I never actually made the move to FM08. I bought the game, waited for the patch to come, and then started a new game, but I went back to my old FM07 save after a day or two.

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    I think if people go back, they dont feel they are missing out on 'many cool features'.

    Old save games that you have become emotionally attached to are always hard to move on from. Its very hard (for me) to move on with a new save, you have to get well into the first season to become attached I think.

    I havent seen any feature in 08 that makes me feel as though I'm missing out and that is a huge shame IMO. Hopefully 09 will have something cool!

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    I've gone back WSM 07 until FM 08 8.0.2 comes out.

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    I'm wayyyyy to involved in my 07 save (in 2035 with AFC Wimbledon) to start a new one with 08. Might wait until a new patch comes out or I get relegated.

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    quote:
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    I'm wayyyyy to involved in my 07 save (in 2035 with AFC Wimbledon) to start a new one with 08. Might wait until a new patch comes out or I get relegated.


    This is the only kind of scenario in which I can imagine myself neglecting the latest release in favour of an older one. If I had a career game going like this, I'd be tempted to continue it, rather than start again with a newer one.

    But that's obviously got nothing to do with the bugs I've encountered in FM08. None of these have been so severe or irritating that I've actually wanted to go back to an older version.

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    I just wish that it was like Out of the Park Baseball and you could import your save into the new version.

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    I'm on 2007 at the moment, but I'm growing bored of it. 2008 doesn't appeal to me either right now; will either wait for the patch to try 2008 out (and enjoy it) or some major changes in 2009, if they come.

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    I had gone back to FM 07 before I could download the first patch because its not possible to here at uni because the internet is terrible.

    However, once I got home, I put the patch on a started playing. I can see everyones issues and I have my own theory about them, which I'm not willing to divulge as I'm not interested in a mass debate.

    Overall, I'm playing FM 08 over 07, when I have time, because I got exasms for the next 3 weeks.

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    I have put FM08 on hold until patch. Even though I am doing well there's still a couple of those niggling issues re shot/ratio and the fact that teams score to much in that elongated extra time....

    So will wait until patch. In the meantime I am enjoying CM2008 a lol....

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    quote:
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    Why stop at FM07? Go all the way back to an old CM title.........

    That's what I've done, currently playing Cm01/02. Maxim Tsigalko FTW!

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    I'm still playing my FM2006 SV Darmstadt 98 game. It is currently 2010 and SVD just finished 6th in the 1.Bundesliga. We would have qualified for the Euro Cup, except 2.Bundesliga Kaiserslautern won the German Cup and took our spot. We're in the Euro Vase instead.

    I actually bought FM2008, and plan to move to it after the post-Transfer patch is out. No point in starting a new league right now.

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    This is the first version I am actually considering stopping playing since.... well, ever. I have played since CM1, along time ago now. I couldn't actually go back to 07, and 08 is just so infuriating with the shots bug. So I am actually just not playing any FM, every few weeks, I think I will give it another shot only to get very p!ssed off again with it. I hope the new patch does the business.

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    quote:
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    I was forced to after 08 died on me, how can they sell a game that randomly minamizes and comes up with a error before letting you carry on and then it happeneing again 10 seconds later! Then they can't fix it!


    Firstly, this will be absolutely nothing to do with the game and will be entirely down to some problem with your PC.

    As for going back to 07, not for me. I'm genuinely enjoying 08 immensly. Currently in 2017 with Gateshead in the Championship and yet to experience any problem that takes any enjoyment away from the game for me.


    So why is there a huge thread in the bugs area with the guys from Si admitting they just dont know how to fix it.

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    i went back to FM06 and won the champions league over Barcelona, was so happy at that!

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    aside from the fact i've passed my fm 2007 cd onto a friend.... ive really enjoyed 08, not really coming across anything that makes the game unplayable. ok so there are still things that could do to be sorted, like being asked about my former player returning after he's played for 3 different clubs since i sold him a fortnight after taking over, but on the whole, im thoroughly enjoying the game, and its the first time ive really got into a long-ish term game since fm 2005, currently 2014 with liverpool (my one and only club) and flying high!!

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    quote:
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    I was forced to after 08 died on me, how can they sell a game that randomly minamizes and comes up with a error before letting you carry on and then it happeneing again 10 seconds later! Then they can't fix it!


    Firstly, this will be absolutely nothing to do with the game and will be entirely down to some problem with your PC.

    As for going back to 07, not for me. I'm genuinely enjoying 08 immensly. Currently in 2017 with Gateshead in the Championship and yet to experience any problem that takes any enjoyment away from the game for me.


    So why is there a huge thread in the bugs area with the guys from Si admitting they just dont know how to fix it.


    Because they don't own that PC. That's not a common problem at the moment.

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    Im getting damn well close to going to 07. Corrupted saves are really ******** me

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    I'll be honest, I went back to FM07 as I was so annoyed with 08. Didn't miss a single thing from 08 because there's less new in this release than any past release. Most versions I've been unable to go back but this one I could. But a funny thing then happened. I seem to have got quite hopelessly addicted to CM08. I'm not doing that well, and I'm still getting to grips with it, but it seems to be a lot more fun than FM, and that's what we play computer games for isn't it?

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    I'm loving FM07. Scoring from corners is fun!

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    fm 07 is the best of the lot fm 08 is pants just check the forums everyone hates it

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    I’ve gone back to FM7 until the second patch comes out. 7.1 was nigh-on unplayable (deranged transfer enquires, mad chairmen etc) but 7.2 was fine notwithstanding match engine irritations (keeper distribution, keepers coming out for no reason allowing easy near post goals, hardwired second half comebacks etc). I do, however, fear for 8.2, as the major 8.1 annoyances are all match engine based. What are the chances these will be sorted?

    I’d be happy if they said the second patch was going to delete the FM8 engine as a bad job and bolt in 7.2’s engine.

    Worse, FM Live is going to use FM8’s ME, so that will probably be a waste of time!

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    If the patch hasn't fully rectified the ficture rescheduling problem, I'll have to go back to 07. As it is, I'm annoyed that I had to start a new game for the patch to be fully effective.

    That said, I would much prefer to stay with 08 because, aside from players sometimes holding the ball for way too long, I think the match engine is much better. Backs actually overlap, and there is a discernible difference in the quality of play at different levels.

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    Played 08 and im sure deep down there is a good game waiting to come out but for me the bugs ruin it and its WAY too easy at the moment (no i dont think im some sort of fm genius im pretty average infact)

    anyway I decided to go back to Fm 2007 and have spent the last 3 days updating it all to 08 data.I forgot how good 07 is, its perfect in my opinion.

    I will go back to 08 when they release the new patch 8.0.2 and give it another go...but if it fails then 08 will always be remembered as the first 'fm failure'' of course again thats only MY opinion each to their own i say, 07 all the way!!!

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    07 is far from perfect but i prefer it over 08 plus i have perfected my tactics and don't plan to spend 1 full year to perfect them again for 08.

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    quote:
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    If the patch hasn't fully rectified the ficture rescheduling problem, I'll have to go back to 07. As it is, I'm annoyed that I had to start a new game for the patch to be fully effective.

    That said, I would much prefer to stay with 08 because, aside from players sometimes holding the ball for way too long, I think the match engine is much better. Backs actually overlap, and there is a discernible difference in the quality of play at different levels.


    I agree that FM8's engine looks better and behaves better in certain ways - it looks more like a real game than FM7 when you look at a single clip in isolation.

    However, its the "I've got the ball and sweep brilliantly down the pitch for a goal attempt...they get the ball and sweep brilliantly down the pitch for a goal attempt...I've got the ball again and sweep brilliantly down the pitch for a goal attempt..." etc. End to end isn't the word. Its kids in the playground football in terms of attempts at goal.

    And they STILL haven't managed to program the keeper to follow "defender collect" or "quick throw" instructions.

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    07 is far from perfect but i prefer it over 08 plus i have perfected my tactics and don't plan to spend 1 full year to perfect them again for 08.


    It makes me chortle when the bs merchants on here swagger around saying "if only you understood real life football like I do you'd be able to create brilliant tactics like I can".

    As you say, because of the balances struck to create a match engine that appears to work over a given number of matches, what worked on one version guarantees constant slaughter on the next. What is good tactical practice on one ME is garbarge on the next. Real football knowledge has next to nowt to do with it. Second guessing the programming foibles (after the last version's foibles) and the fractured logic of the deliberately ambiguous sliders has everything to do with it.

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    has anybody updated there 07 database

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    I just got sick of the goals-to-shots ratio and the demented board expectations and went back to 7.0.2. Will definitely check out 8.0.2 but my hopes aren't too high and, worse case scenario, I will just stick with 7.0.2 and then read the reviews of 9.0.1 before deciding whether or not to buy that game.

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    quote:
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    I'd imagine almost everyone

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    quote:
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    07 is far from perfect but i prefer it over 08 plus i have perfected my tactics and don't plan to spend 1 full year to perfect them again for 08.


    It makes me chortle when the bs merchants on here swagger around saying "if only you understood real life football like I do you'd be able to create brilliant tactics like I can".

    As you say, because of the balances struck to create a match engine that appears to work over a given number of matches, what worked on one version guarantees constant slaughter on the next. What is good tactical practice on one ME is garbarge on the next. Real football knowledge has next to nowt to do with it. Second guessing the programming foibles (after the last version's foibles) and the fractured logic of the deliberately ambiguous sliders has everything to do with it.


    Actually, I've found that my tactics from FM07 needed very little tweaking for FM08. It's the ME's presentation of the game on screen that seems to have changed a lot.

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    i used completely different tactics for 08 than i did for 07, but i reinstalled 07 last night (not because 08 is too bugged or anything, 08 is easier imo), an 08 tactics work

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    I happily trumpet the fact that I still play '07
    But that is simply because my PC doesn't run '08

    Otherwise I'd be over and up it's leg like a whippet.

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    quote:
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    Whilst I do feel a fully patched FM07 was better, I couldn't go back. I'd miss the game being up to date, I'd miss the new features, even if most of them were underwhelming and I'd miss the improved speed.


    Oddly enough, game speed is one of the reasons I keep going back to fm07. Patched fm08 (unpatched whizzed by) is considerably slower and less responsive on my machine than 07. Results take far longer to process.

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    FM08 - bugs - argggggghhhh.
    One question though for SI. What about the people who buy these games who aint aware of patches that can be downloaded to fix them? How many people would walk away from the game because of the numerous bugs?
    Don't get me wrong I love FM and have played right from the start, but I've nearly launched the laptop a few times with FM08.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Northernlad:
    FM08 - bugs - argggggghhhh.
    One question though for SI. What about the people who buy these games who aint aware of patches that can be downloaded to fix them? How many people would walk away from the game because of the numerous bugs?
    Don't get me wrong I love FM and have played right from the start, but I've nearly launched the laptop a few times with FM08.


    i understand your point, but most people who buy pc games:

    1. See the "check for updates" button on the first screen.

    2. Have the internet so that they can check for updates, or check FM websites.

    3. Understand that all pc games require updates/patches.

    i don't doubt that there are players of the game who are not like this, however.

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    I accept your point, however if you look at the box it says for players 3 years +. I know thats being silly but what about the next generation of gamers say 10+? Would they understand to look or updates?

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    I have gone back to 07 - sorry but 08 is putting me off the series (I will not buy next iteration, if there is one, in a rush)

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    quote:
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    Originally posted by Themistofelis:
    07 is far from perfect but i prefer it over 08 plus i have perfected my tactics and don't plan to spend 1 full year to perfect them again for 08.


    It makes me chortle when the bs merchants on here swagger around saying "if only you understood real life football like I do you'd be able to create brilliant tactics like I can".

    As you say, because of the balances struck to create a match engine that appears to work over a given number of matches, what worked on one version guarantees constant slaughter on the next. What is good tactical practice on one ME is garbarge on the next. Real football knowledge has next to nowt to do with it. Second guessing the programming foibles (after the last version's foibles) and the fractured logic of the deliberately ambiguous sliders has everything to do with it.


    Real football? what has the game to do with real football ?
    To beat the machine you only need to find it's weaknesses and place a tactic that AI can not understand (i am using a 4-3-3 with three strikers and most of the time not even super keepers can save it).
    Tactically 4-2-3-1 is a killer in 08 and everybody knows it , i am not against playing super tactics but 08 is just an annoying game with lots and lots of clicks .
    SI made it way too hard, if you think of most of the new features there are mostly against the player , at least in 07 i can easily sign players and keep my best ones in the club ...ah and i can lose all friendlies without any consequence.

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