TigerTime Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Welcome to the KC Stadium! The home of Hull City AFC! Basic Information: Name: Hull City AFC Nickname: The Tigers Founded: 1904 Chairman: Paul Duffen Main Rivals: Leeds, Scunthorpe, Grimsby Favoured Personal: Chris Chilton, Ken Wagstaff, Dean Windass, Ian Ashbee Ground: KC Stadium Training Facilities: Good Training Facilities Youth Facilities: Good Youth Training Facilities/Youth Acadamy Home Kit: Black and amber striped top with black shorts and socks Away Kit: White top, black shorts and white socks Afflilated Clubs: North Ferriby, Winterton, Staff: Assistant Manager: Brian Horton First Team Coach: Steve Parkin Goalkeeping Coach: Mark Prudhoe Fitness Coordinator: Sean Rush Development Director: Colin Murphy Under-23 Development Coach: Trevor Morgan Head of Youth: Billy Russell Youth Recruitment Officer: Neil Mann Centre of Excellence Director/FITC Officer: John Davies Head Physiotherapist: Simon Maltby Assistant Physiotherapist: Liam McGarry Sports Psychologist: Mark Nesti Kit Manager: Barry Lowe Chief Scout: Bob Shaw Squad, tactical anylasis: As you might know, I am a Hull fan and I’ve watched us this season climb to the top of premiership table, beat Arsenal on their own turf, scare Manchester United but lose to them 4-3, draw against Liverpool and Chelsea and look destined for a Uefa Cup place. But as you know, the second half of the season wasn’t too good for us and we have dropped to 13th in the table. Still a good finish for a team that have never played in the Premiership League before. But just how did Hull manager, Phil Brown, do this? And how can Hulls first half of the season be achieved in FM. Hopefully I can answer these questions. Tactics: Obviously Phil Browns tactics played some kind of role in Hulls success but how important were they? First Formation: The 4-5-1 This formation was used by Brown for the first couple of premiership games before striker Daniel Cousin joined Hull from Rangers. This formation was defensively minded and looked like this: GK RB CB CB LB DM DM RM LM AM TM GK: The goalkeeper was normally very solid anddidn’t come out and collect long balls, that was up to the deep defensive line. Otherwise he played like any normal goal keeper would. FBs: The full backs where generally quite defensive but would still support the wingers and whip in deep crosses. Otherwise they’d play a flat back four and keep in line with the other centre backs. CBs: The two centre backs would both man mark the 2 strikers on the opposing team and play a deep defensive line. Neither would venture forward at any time except from set pieces. DMs: The two DMs would both shield the defence and do a lot of closing down. Only one of them would venture forward at any time whilst the other would sit back. WFs: Both of them would have high attacking roles and wouldn’t really defend very much. Both of them would be given high creative freedom and would do a lot of cutting inside. AM: The AM would be the playmaker. He’d be involved in all the attacking play and would be given a free role and lots of creative freedom. The player have to be a very good player and be capable of taking on players hitting long passes and basically been the creative player in the team. ST: The striker would be a target man not necessarily good in the air but capable of holding up the ball. The player would have to be strong and fast and also be able to score goals as he would be the main goal scorer in the team. Overall: The team would play possession football and play balanced football. They’d launch a lot of counter attacks and would be hard to break down in defence. My Favourite Players To Play In This Tactic: GK: Myhill RB: Ricketts LB: Dawson CB: Turner CB: Gardener DM: Ashbee DM: Boateng RM: Geovanni LM: Fagan AM: Bullard ST: Cousin If you choose this team you are relying on Bullard to be the main creative spark in the team. Fortunately he is perfect for the job being Hulls best player. Fagan will have to be retrained as a LM which I feel is a good idea as he fills the needs of that position. Second Formation: The balanced 4-4-2 This is the formation used by Brown for the first half of the season, the formation that they used when they beat Arsenal and scared Manchester United. A very balanced formation that looked like this: GK RB CB CB LB CMD CMA RM LM ST ST GK: Would come out and collect long balls and basically play any good goalkeeper would. FBs: Quite attacking and would support the wingers whenever possible and whip in crosses from deep. The wingers would occasionally take on players but wouldn’t if they felt they would be putting their team under pressure if they lost the ball. CBs: Would play a normal defensive line and not venture forward accept from set pieces. One of the centre backs would man mark the striker whilst the other would act as a sweeper and bring the ball out of defence. CMD: The defensive minded CM would try and keep possession of them ball and help the defence out. Occasionally he would go forward but he wouldn’t dribble the ball, he’d just pass and keep possession. CMA: The attacking minded CM would be the link man to the strikers and would be very creative, and given lots of creative freedom. The player would occasionally help out defensively but he would normally be at the other side of the pitch. WFs: The wingers would provide much needed width and would stay out wide. They’d help out defensively when needed but would still have some creative freedom and would take on players. STs: The two strikers would have to link up well together and score a fair few goals. Both would have to be fast and good on the air and ground. Both of them would stay forward but would not take on players often. Overall: As you can see the formation is very balanced and relies heavily on teamwork and the players blending. My Favourite Players To Play In This Tactic: GK: Myhill RB: Mendy LB: Ricketts CB: Turner SW: Zayatte CMD: Ashbee CMA: Bullard RM: Geovanni (but will be more effectual in the CMA role so I advise you make him swap positions with Bullard during the match). LM: Halmosi ST: Cousin ST: Fagan So tactics did play an important role in Hulls success but what else did. Staff: Make sure you get the best staff in and around you. And by this I don’t mean the coaches that give you the most stars in training. No, of course I recommend having at least three stars in every aspect of training but when you hire staff I think you should make your decision judged on Mental Stats. As well the staff being English speakers also helps as the players can communicate with them. Training: Obviously don’t overwork the players but make sure they get the most out of training. I recommend using TUGS training as that has worked for me very well. Transfers: Even though the squad is far from world class I don’t recommend buying lots of players and having a massive squad clearout. The key to doing well is letting the players blend and play well and the fewer players you sell and buy the better the players will blend. As well if you are looking at buying a player have a look at their personality because if they don’t fit in with the rest of the squad they aren’t going to blend very well. Well I hope this has helped and there is only one other thing that will help, have faith, do not give up and yes sorry but I just have to say this COME ON YOU HULL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Finnally managed to create this thread! Does anybody know how to make the images show on the forum. It just shows the links! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbananas Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 like this but with no spaces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Fixed the image codes for you (hope you didn't mind) you also had too many images sadly! There's a limit of 4 or isit 5 anyway you had 7. Anyhow, good opener Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Thanks HoPeY! Well done for becoming a new moderator! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Bugger I was half way through a Hull City thread, good OP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hopey - Theres another image at the bottom of the OP I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 roberto922 There's a limit of 4 images to a post, so the HoPeY couldn't make the 5th show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hopey - Theres another image at the bottom of the OP I think Yes but you can only have 4 or 5 image's in a post, so I made that one a link. EDIT Beaten to it, arsenal_2111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Anyone fancy playing a Hull game? I can't play one until nov the 14th because my laptop cannot handle the 3d! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I know Serpico is: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=59249 So I'm sure he will be posting in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Forgot about that, terrible rule tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 It's mainly to stop people over-using smilies TBH. But anyway, back on topic now. _______________________________________ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz2Rubble Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 This is unfortunately the first version of the game in which I'm going to resist the temptation to guide The Tigers to glory...I'm a ruthless bastard on FM and I just can't bring myself to steam into City's squad selling the legends that are Ian Ashbee, Boaz Myhill, Michael Turner, Andy Dawson and the two DEANO's, I thought this might finally be the update where these players are rewarded for their obvious premier league talents with some respectable stats, yet again i am disappointed, particularly with Myhill who is in the real world one of the best keepers in the country with Division 3 stats on FM09. Even more annoying is Ash's mental stats, this guy is the greatest captain the game has ever seen, taking a mid table division 3 team by the scruff of the neck and dragging them to the promised land and yet there are probably non league players on the game with better mental stats than him, why? how? I've been going to City since '93 and playing FM and demolishing most of the squads (with good reason!) since '99, this year i thought it might be different...I was sadly wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexta200 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 good OP Joe. will be giving Hull a go at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpico Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 This is unfortunately the first version of the game in which I'm going to resist the temptation to guide The Tigers to glory...I'm a ruthless bastard on FM and I just can't bring myself to steam into City's squad selling the legends that are Ian Ashbee, Boaz Myhill, Michael Turner, Andy Dawson and the two DEANO's, I thought this might finally be the update where these players are rewarded for their obvious premier league talents with some respectable stats, yet again i am disappointed, particularly with Myhill who is in the real world one of the best keepers in the country with Division 3 stats on FM09. Even more annoying is Ash's mental stats, this guy is the greatest captain the game has ever seen, taking a mid table division 3 team by the scruff of the neck and dragging them to the promised land and yet there are probably non league players on the game with better mental stats than him, why? how? I've been going to City since '93 and playing FM and demolishing most of the squads (with good reason!) since '99, this year i thought it might be different...I was sadly wrong. Unfortunately pre-season everyone and their dog was expecting the Tigers to 'do a Derby'. In fact some so called pundits were predicting less than 10 points all season. In that climate is was pretty much impossible to get SI's head researchers to accept that City were choc full of decent players really. As it is I do think we've over-performed this season. We're light at full backs and could do with a real talent in the centre of midfield. You're right about Myhill. Not sure how his stats slipped through so low. I'll endeavour to get things looking better for the new year data update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Looking forward to november the 14th! Can't wait to play the new game for the first time and try out City! Hopefully Myhill will have better stats than you say he has on the new game and also i hope Hull will have a chance of staying up when i'm not managing them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I've started a game with City, set my ambitions low, stating 'attempt to avoid relegation'. With the team on this game, there is no chance I'll be able to recreate our exceptional real life form, in my opinion anyway. Not been particularly extravagant in the transfer market, £3 million doesn't get you very far, and with only 20k spare wage budget, you really have to be resourceful. Transfers in: Mascio- MC- Cisco Roma- 35k- A dead ball specialist, only 17 so more one for the future, may feature occasionally this season. Fabian Carini- GK- Murcia- 110k- I thought this was a brilliant deal for a keeper who has won 69 caps for his country, and at 28, he still has a long time left. Provides definite competition for Myhill. Kike Mateo- AMC- Sporting- 300k- Provides a bit more competition in midfield, I feel he is more than capable of performing. Igor De Carmargo- ST- Standard- 500k (Loan Fee)- Didn't want to commit to taking an expensive chance on a striker so went for a relatively inexpensive loan option. Looks a slightly better than Cousin, giving me more depth in my squad. Also on the 1st of December I will be signing 3 Americans who are at the end of their contracts in the MLS- Michael Parkhurst, Marvell Wynne and Justin Mapp. I highly recommend you take a look, there are lots of players who's deals are expiring, leaving you to take them for nothing. You should have the MLS as a playable league, or American players loaded. I have 2 million spare, some which I might transfer in to my wage budget, leaving a million for January. First match against Wigan, will keep you updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki20_PL Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sign me in Definiately going to start the long career game with the Tigers as its one of my favourite team and im from Poland doh! Been playing this team since CM 99/00 hehe. Im keeping an eye on you guys, please keep this thread goin' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roary the Tiger Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Me thinks the season is gonna be ok - just like in real life !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Me thinks the season is gonna be ok - just like in real life !!! I wouldn't get too excited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan12 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 did i read that wrong or do queens park play at hampden?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 did i read that wrong or do queens park play at hampden?? They do, to crowds well below 1000, I believe. Euphoric atmosphere, I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Right just hit January, and as I expected, it's been a struggle, 17 points from 20 games played, despite this we are out of the relegation zone, albeit on goal difference: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/rhodesy1991/January2009table.jpg I felt I'd made a big signing in acquiring the services of Landon Donovan on a free from LA Galaxy, however he hasn't quite had the start I hoped for, but salvaged me a point with an injury time equalizer against Blackburn. I reckon I'm going to need to get the best out of him if we're going to have a chance of staying up. Captain Ian Ashbee is having a solid season, keeping Boateng out of the team on most occasions. Cousin is top scorer, bagging some crucial goals, but Geovanni has, unfortunately, not had the same effect on the game as in real life. http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/rhodesy1991/SquadJanuary2009.jpg I've sold Wayne Brown (575k), John Welsh (325k), Ryan France (100k) and Sam Ricketts (3million) Ricketts went to West Brom, and I felt I got good money for him, whilst having better alternatives already in my squad, such as this bargain: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/rhodesy1991/Masilela.jpg For 350k, I felt he was a must buy, not heard him mentioned on here before and was spotted by one of my scouts, but at 23 there is still time to improve. Can I keep the Tigers up? I will return to update at the end of the season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Good pre-seaon win roarythetiger! Landon Donovan was a great bargain for you hullcitytigers and your squad looks pretty srong. Maselela looks like a great buy for 350k and i hope you can stay up! What tatic are you using? Can you send me a screenie of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboywonder Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 hey hey im just starting with hull too putmyself in the game,didnt edit the reputation for the club,gave a wee bit extra money. will wait and see how i go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 good luck jayoywonder! Who are you going to sign with the extra cash? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Just started my Hull game. Lets see how I get on! ... I'll post up some screenies at different times. I'll get one up just as the season is about to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Beat this Roary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Nice one Mikal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Just about to start the season off after a successful pre-season. Only bagged myself 2 players... Gravesen and Masilela (thanks for the that tigers). This is my formation I am going to be attempting to use And these are my fixtures... Looks like an easy 9 points in my first 3 games, aye! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 And how about this for the start of the season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboywonder Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well im doing ok and ive played 3 league matches,beat stoke,beat off blackburn and beat west brom so doing ok i had 11 million to spend so pleased with tthat,and as i said not adjusting the team rep its still the lowest in the league lol signed kanu,steven fletcher from hibs.bobo balde,traroe from pompoey,ljungberg,graveson,james macarthy from hamilton.killy gonzales.barry robson on loan from celtic. what use think of they signings? any ideas?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well played Mikal, I myself have been using that formation! I managed to stay up first season, finished 15th, 7 points clear of relegation! Managed to sign Emile Heskey in the January transfer window for £3.3million, a risky move possibly, but he chipped in with 5 goals in 14 appearances whilst getting a few assists, too! It's now June 2009, and I've been given £11.15 million to spend for saying I'd get a mid table position, and the KC is getting extended to 38,000 seats. Apologies for lack of screenshots, on a different PC, I'll post some later . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxduke Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I was looking for a club to be and this thread has persuaded me to be Hull and I was just wondering how do you take screenshots for in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well done in finishing 15th hullcitytigers. Great win against Arsenal Mikal i wonder if you can keep it up! Your formation looks good but i'm not sure about Brown at centre back and Hughes in the centre! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxduke Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Guy's I was looking for a CB and Balde is only like £65,000 do you think I should sign him, the problem is his wages are £19,250. Any cheap GK's you could recommend, no dearer than £2m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Every year your going to be paying him £1m so i'd say no deal. The nigerian international Enywema is good and also is young! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxduke Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yeah I ain't getting Balde now, but I just searched for Enyeama and he's a Man City player. Any other GK's youvknow of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Try these: Goal Keepers -10 Vincenzo Fiorillo – Sampdoria – GK -9 Josh Lambo – FC Dallas – GK Antonio Adan – Castilla – GK Sergio Asenjo – Valladolid – GK David De Gea – Atletico B – GK Jose Rafael Alamo – Tapachula – GK Miguel Angel Fraga – Morelia – GK Alfonso Blanco – Pachuca – GK Giorgi Makaridze – Dinamo Tbilisi – GK Joris Delle – Metz – GK Zakarie Boucher – Havre – GK Asmir Begovic – Portsmouth – GK Joao Carlos – Atletico Paranaense – GK Oscar Ustari – Getafe – GK Cassio – PSV – GK Geoffrey Jourdren – Montpellier – GK Sergio Arias – Chivas – GK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I wouldn't say you need a new number 1- Myhill performed very well for me, first season. Just pick up someone who would be good back up, as Duke and Warner aren't quite there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxduke Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I have made an offer for Fraga. £1.6M and 20% of next sale was enough and seeing as he's only 20 I will see how Myhill does and if he's good then I will use Fraga in cups and the odd Prem game to get him ready as he will be my no.1 next season. Not a good start for him as he said Hull are a stepping stone. Not off to a very good start a 3-1 defeat to Bolton. Guy's i'm gunna quit my Hull game as I just don't have the patience I mean I don't know how you did it only winning 3 games out of 20 and still finishing the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 What a start I am having! First a 1-0 win against arsenal... Then a 3-2 win against Utd (which I was very fortunate to win), a 2-0 win against Walsall (league cup) and now a 2-0 win against Liverpool! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpico Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 OK Mikel, I think you need to share those tactics around amongst other Tigerfolk. I just survived the first season in the Prem, finishing 16th. I'll post more details when I get a chance. Bedtime now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTrevor Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Congrats Serp. For the GK problem, I got Lobos (Chile) and Martinez (Colombia) each for about 200-500K. Work permits needed but they can be gotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 Well done Mikal! Can you post your tatics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Are you not starting a game, Joe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 I am but i don't have the game yet. I've preordered it so it should be here in 2days! Downloaded the patch already do i need to open it or do anything with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtic_fc Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Guy's I was looking for a CB and Balde is only like £65,000 do you think I should sign him, the problem is his wages are £19,250.Any cheap GK's you could recommend, no dearer than £2m. If your still after a CB try Fuentes, transfer listed at Villa and only costs 200k. You dodged a bullet with Balde, I'm desperate to get him off my wage bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I'll play a few more games after i've done my accounting assignment and see how I get on... If i'm still winning I will get my tactics up for you lot, but i'm sure it will need a fair amount of tweaking. Good luck with the rest of your games! @joe seddon - Assuming the game will install through steam, then you don't need to download the patch as it does it automatically through steam for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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