Oxford diamond

I was trying to set up a tactic based on the old Oxford style formation which produced good results in testing. Then while watching the Dam Busters film I came up with a wide diamond formation that also gave good test results.

These are the results from using the wide diamond Dam busters tactic with Spurs and Newcastle, using the original squads. The tactics are aimed at a 6th place team and are for 16.2. There are no OI's and the assistant does all other legwork including training. I do not use SUS tactics. I also use quick pick and then rotate as necessary. The last screenshots just show what can happen when using a player not suited to a role, Although not using these tactics (should be available soon), this is Dan Holman not a CF support with Woking 2nd game using tactic.

These are fun plug and play tactics used over the Christmas Holiday.

The Dam Busters

http://www.mediafire.com/download/oaci6t666b6r3a2/%21%21%21FM16.2The_Dam_BustersP157F182A47widediamondCCCBEST_E88D063D-519C-4571-886F-0FBA1A852EE4.fmf

Oxford

http://www.mediafire.com/download/q1777ap9znnlu6l/%21%21%21FM16.2OXFORDP154F176A50_5F5C877A-DFC6-4E30-AC83-3DBE7D0CD726.fmf

Half season with Spurs using Oxford

Dambuster

Woking

Welcome back Knap

Welcome back! ive used some of your tactics in the past to great effect!

Please post instructions for IPad touch please

Not sure what you would need for IPad or whether tactic would work.

For iPad he needs all team and player instructions to put them in manually, because you can't download and import a tactic.

Is it the same ME?

As all players have PIs plus corners etc that would be a lot of screenshots, and this is just 1 of so far 22 plug and play tactics which are constantly evolving.

Yep, exactly the same ME.

Is it the same ME?

As all players have PIs plus corners etc that would be a lot of screenshots, and this is just 1 of so far 22 plug and play tactics which are constantly evolving.

Yes, a lot of screenshots

Pretty please

Can you not upload to an ipad or is FM the problem?

Oxford in detail

This is the best tactic I have come across you should rename it the diablo, I have just won the league in the 1st season with aston villa on a budget off nothing thank you so much

This is the best tactic I have come across you should rename it the diablo, I have just won the league in the 1st season with aston villa on a budget off nothing thank you so much

wich one?

the ox looks fun with 2 AM's. after all the succes i had with Knap's 424 i might try this one tomorrow.

Finished Spurs season

outstanding, may i ask which tactic did u use for this?

Oxford diamond for Spurs undefeated in league season, also won Capital Cup.

Oxford diamond for Spurs undefeated in league season, also won Capital Cup.

great, will give it a go. happened to use that instead of the Dam tactic.. was looking good.. thanks knap

Is there a way to get less yellow cards for defense. My defense seems to collect them for fun. And would remove offside trap be an option? Thanks for your help.

You need to warn players for 2 yellow or fine for a red - then becomes less of a problem. You can use a SUS tactic if anyone gets set off.

Right am I being stupid but how do I get these loaded up in game?

really liked the look of this for my West Ham save, but its followed the identical pattern to every other single tactic ive built or downloaded. Looks good for 3 or 4 games and we play well, this one in particular had encouraged some lovely interchanges amongst the AMs and the striker, some really lovely goals.

But, then, as usual, we go on a horrible run of not playing well and losing constantly, all the fluidity has gone, until i switch the tactic up again.

Rinse.

Repeat.

Thinking it might just be time to knock this edition on the head.

This is a tactic I used in 16.1 but updated and retested in 16.2. It is a 451 counter and may work for a team like West Ham.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/6w5jyvnttw5fnm9/%21%21FM16.2Knap451CounterAttackp150f138a32_A31A7826-4EF1-4880-B21C-1C6319E5A921.fmf

Also you could try 442 midsomer counter when favourite, and switch to Stargazer BWM 4231 with 2 deep defensive midfielders when underdog.

thanks for the suggestion, cant download any tactics though as im on fm touch.

Also was really hoping to break the cycle to be honest. Im into my 3rd seasons at the moment and ive had to develop or download a new tactic every 2 to 3 months as, as i say, we play well for a few games and then go on a terrible run for twice as long.

Out of interest, I run Oxford tactic in a testing league against the top teams in Europe.

is that with the version posted in the screenshots earlier in the thread?

Just only conceding 8 goals in 12 games seems quite good from my experience with the tactics.

I could hug you right now!

Thanks for this

The screenshots are from Oxford. Dambuster is just moving from AM to SS.

The Europe league is harder than the testing league I have been using, as against top quality sides. However, the testing league is 60 games, so more than a season of results.

It is also probably a good idea to use a SUS tactic for late in game to defend a lead. For a SUS tactic, put WBs to defend and pull AMs back to CM spot.

i do tend to do that if we take a solid lead, usually concede a goal or two in the first half though

Started a Spurs game with the Oxford tactic... was a bit disgruntled when I was 2-0 down at home to Leicester at half-time in the first league game, but came back to win that 4-3 followed by a 2-0 win at Stoke and a 3-0 home battering of Man United. Looks a great tactic, getting a hell of a lot of chances whilst keeping it pretty tight at the back (after that first half!) Thanks knap!

I am using very similar tactic with some differences.

its a wonderful formation this oxford diamond - my only question to you is this, iv always believed in using 5-10 MAX instructions, whats your view on this seen as you use 18 and it clearly works?

is there a reason you use so many etc ?

won title with arsenal . but couldnt cut it in CL. lost to real madrid in the 2nd round. how did your euro campaign go?

Complete season testing showed an increase in tactic performance by using the additional team instructions.

I lost in FA Cup to Wolves, so losing to Real Madrid I would accept as reasonable, as you need a bit of luck in cup competitions.

Complete season testing showed an increase in tactic performance by using the additional team instructions.

I lost in FA Cup to Wolves, so losing to Real Madrid I would accept as reasonable, as you need a bit of luck in cup competitions.

agree on the luck factor for cup. well done on your tactic. great sharing . thanks knap

Complete season testing showed an increase in tactic performance by using the additional team instructions.

I lost in FA Cup to Wolves, so losing to Real Madrid I would accept as reasonable, as you need a bit of luck in cup competitions.

So you think that you should use as many instructions as you feel nesc? rather than using a rule of thumb of say "no more than 10 team instructions"? Just use however many you think you need?

Ran a holiday test with liverpool using the oxford diamond, this was the result - although most of the loses seem to be from away games - ALOT of CCC created throughout the season and alot of 60% possession games to.

As above my questions more related to the amount of team instructions which id love an answer from you about or at least your opinion on using more of less or whatever.

This is a tactic I used in 16.1 but updated and retested in 16.2. It is a 451 counter and may work for a team like West Ham.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/6w5jyvnttw5fnm9/%21%21FM16.2Knap451CounterAttackp150f138a32_A31A7826-4EF1-4880-B21C-1C6319E5A921.fmf

Also you could try 442 midsomer counter when favourite, and switch to Stargazer BWM 4231 with 2 deep defensive midfielders when underdog.

iv noticed that your team instructions on this tactic are basically all the same besides tempo and lower/whipped crosses between the two tactics - is this just what instructions you have found work best throughout or just the way you want your team to play?

Holiday test is not worthwhile.

You can either use TI or PIs in a number of cases, but to start easier to use team. Many years ago I did often just use team instructions with sliders. The instructions were developed on 16.1 as the most effective and the tactics were tested in 16.2 with same TIs. Having developed a system that works, its easier just to gradually tweak but probably more of a change from Oxford to Stargazer. The 451 is the only 16.1 tactic I used with Woking posted here.

Holiday test is not worthwhile.

You can either use TI or PIs in a number of cases, but to start easier to use team. Many years ago I did often just use team instructions with sliders. The instructions were developed on 16.1 as the most effective and the tactics were tested in 16.2 with same TIs. Having developed a system that works, its easier just to gradually tweak but probably more of a change from Oxford to Stargazer. The 451 is the only 16.1 tactic I used with Woking posted here.

You never really limited your team instructions to below a certain number either then??? Like i said i always used as a rule of thumb no more than 10 team instructions but your using 18 to great effect obviously!

have you got the stargazer link for me to have a look at that?

i noticed that in oxford, there are alot of shoot less often player instructions - is this to try and limit the amount of long shots?

one thing i did notice though - is that the two in the oxford diamond behind the striker, the left player had no shoot less often player instruction but he (firmino) scored 22 goals in the season yet coutinho (the right sided player behind the forward) only scored 8 goals for the season, but coutinho did weigh in with 17 assists compared to 8 for firmino.

Stargazer thread.

If team instructions are there why not use them. If a tactic worked with none, I would use none. I always start with none and then just go with the flow.

In general shoot less improves tactic but sometimes variety gives a better end result.

Stargazer thread.

If team instructions are there why not use them. If a tactic worked with none, I would use none. I always start with none and then just go with the flow.

In general shoot less improves tactic but sometimes variety gives a better end result.

true - one other question is regarding you using narrow alot, all or most of your tactics seem to use "play narrow" any reason for that?

Better results - although if you look at PIs you will probably notice a plan of attack.

Pep Guardiola alluded to it!

If you have your own tactic, pop it on a download and I will have a look.

Better results - although if you look at PIs you will probably notice a plan of attack.

Pep Guardiola alluded to it!

you mean by using the wingbacks to give the width?

also do you find using the oxford diamond that you can use wingers in place of the wide midfielders if you want and a poacher or centre forward instead of an advanced forward?

If you have your own tactic, pop it on a download and I will have a look.

i have a couple im just after your side of things thats all to implement into my own setups in future

Pop your best on a download as may give me a new direction to take.

il get something sorted, iv only really one im confident in using upto now - i want to re-create a conte style tactic from his juventus days.

I was more interested to hear what yo uhad to say about changing the roles in your oxford diamond setup, does it ruin the way it plays if i change some roles?

Dambuster is a change of roles from Oxford but I've probably played 300 games with those tactics. If you change roles then you are in untested territory but it may work.