[FM2016] E23 - England to Level 23

Once again I am undertaking the task of creating the biggest database for England!

The first database available will be a Level 10 file.

E23 - Level 10 with FA Competitions and League Cups - (Download Link added 29/11/15)

E23 - Level 10 with FA Competitions and League Cups 1.1 - Regionalised early rounds of FA Competitions, Stadium requirements for lower leagues plus more reserve and Under 18's Leagues thanks to BoyInGreen (Link added 07/12/15)

E23 - Level 11 with FA Competitions and League Cups *BETA* - (Download Link added 11/12/15)

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups - (Download Link added 30/01/16) FA Cup Final fix

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 2.0 - (Download link added 15/01/16)

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 3.0 - (Download link added 14/02/16)

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 4.0 - (Download link added 06/03/16) Realistic lower league attendances, sorted prize money for Lower League Cups, more realistic ticket prices.

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 5.0 - (Download link added 25/03/16)

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 6.0 - (Download link added 02/05/16)

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 7.0 - (Download link added 08/05/16)

E23 - Level 23 with FA Competitions and League Cups 8.1 - (Download link added 21/05/16)

Playable leagues are:

Level 1

Premier League

Level 2

Championship

Level 3

League 1

Level 4

League 2

Level 5

Conference Premier

Level 6

Conference North

Conference South

Level 7

Ryman Premier

Southern Premier

Northern Premier

Level 8

Ryman Division 1 North

Ryman Division 1 South

Southern Central

Southern South & West

Northern Premier Division 1 North

Northern Premier Division 1 South

Level 9

Combined Counties League Premier

Eastern Counties League Premier

Essex Senior League

Hellenic League Premier

Midland Football League Premier

Northern Counties East League Premier

Northern League Division One

North West Counties League Premier

Southern Counties East League

Spartan South Midlands League Premier

Southern Combination League League Premier Division

United Counties League Premier

Wessex League Premier

Western League Premier

Level 10

Combined Counties League Division One

Eastern Counties League Division One

East Midlands Counties League

Hellenic League Division One East

Hellenic League Division One West

Kent Invicta League

Midland Football League Division One

Northern Counties East League Division One

Northern League Division Two

North West Counties League Division One

South West Peninsula League Premier Division

Spartan South Midlands League Division One

Southern Combination League Division One

United Counties League Division One

Wessex League Division One

Western League Division One

West Midlands (Regional) League Premier Division

Level 11

Anglian Combination Premier Division

Essex Olympian Football League

Kent County Football League

Hampshire Premier League Premier Division (2.0)

Humber Premier League Premier Division

Liverpool County Premier League Premier Division

Southern Combination League Division Two

South West Peninsula League Division One East

South West Peninsula League Division One West

Surrey Elite Intermediate Football League

West Cheshire League Division One (2.0)

Middlesex County Football League Premier Division (8.1)

Manchester Football League Premier Division (8.1)

Level 12

Mid-Sussex League Premier Division

Brighton, Hove & Worthing District Football League Premier Division

West Sussex Football League Premier Division

East Sussex Football League Premier Division

Hampshire Premier League Division One (2.0)

Surrey County Intermediate League (Western) Premier (2.0)

Surrey South Eastern Combination Intermediate Division One (3.0)

Anglian Combination Division One (8.1)

Liverpool County Premier League Division One (8.1)

Middlesex County Football League Division One (Central & East) (8.1)

Middlesex County Football League Division One (West) (8.1)

Manchester Football League Division One (8.1)

Level 13

Mid-Sussex League Championship

Brighton, Hove & Worthing League Division One East

Brighton, Hove & Worthing League Division One West

West Sussex Football League Division One

East Sussex Football League Division One

Isle of Wight Football League Division One (2.0)

Surrey County Intermediate League (Western) Division One (2.0)

Surrey South Eastern Combination Intermediate Division Two (3.0)

Liverpool County Premier League Division Two (8.1)

Middlesex County Football League Division Two (8.1)

Level 14

Mid-Sussex League Division One

Brighton, Hove & Worthing League Division Two West

West Sussex Football League Division Two North

West Sussex Football League Division Two South

East Sussex Football League Division Two

Isle of Wight Football League Division Two (2.0)

Surrey South Eastern Combination Junior Division One (6.0)

Middlesex County Football League Combination (8.1)

Level 15

Mid-Sussex League Division Two

East Sussex Football League Division Three

West Sussex Football League Division Three North

West Sussex Football League Division Three South (2.0)

Surrey South Eastern Combination Junior Division Two (6.0)

Level 16

Mid-Sussex League Division Three

East Sussex Football League Division Four (5.0)

Surrey South Eastern Combination Junior Division Three (7.0)

Level 17

Mid-Sussex League Division Four

East Sussex Football League Division Five (5.0)

Surrey South Eastern Combination Junior Division Four (7.0)

Level 18

Mid-Sussex League Division Five

Level 19

Mid-Sussex League Division Six

Level 20

Mid-Sussex League Division Seven

Level 21

Mid-Sussex League Division Eight

Level 22

Mid-Sussex League Division Nine

Level 23

Mid-Sussex League Division Ten

Once again I will be creating probably the biggest English league databases around. Unfortunate this season the Mid Sussex League only goes down to Level 22 after they made some of the leagues bigger, but that won't stop me!

I also plan to add more leagues in Level 11 and hopefully some in Level 12 if time allows. If anyone has a Level 11 league they would want to see in the database then please tell me. Once the game is released and I have the editor then I will start the database and keep you up to date in this thread.

The pyramid goes down to Level 23, not 22. The Southern Combination League Division Three sits at Level 11 (although hasn't been officially given Step 7 yet) and the Mid-Sussex League starts at Level 12.

On this link I've noticed they've missed out on the Mid Sussex League Division 10! I thought there were 23

Can a mod please change the title to [FM2016] England Level 23

On this link I've noticed they've missed out on the Mid Sussex League Division 10! I thought there were 23

I haven't used that page for a pyramid the last couple of seasons, there's some leagues on there that aren't around anymore and some leagues have incorrect number of teams. There's also a few leagues which aren't on there too. I've got my own pyramid which I use.

I follow a team in the Mid-Sussex League so know a bit about it

On this link I've noticed they've missed out on the Mid Sussex League Division 10! I thought there were 23

Can a mod please change the title to [FM2016] England Level 23

You are right, they seem to have missed out a division, making it down to level 23. I must admit I thought that site was accurate, certainly looks good with good links, but it seems I was mistaken. One thing that has changed is the two playable sides (Crawley Utd & AFC Bolnore are in the league above). There are looks like two different playable teams in the bottom division. AFC Wivelsfield Wanderers who seem to have been relegated & new side Keymer & Hassocks.

You are right, they seem to have missed out a division, making it down to level 23. I must admit I thought that site was accurate, certainly looks good with good links, but it seems I was mistaken. One thing that has changed is the two playable sides (Crawley Utd & AFC Bolnore are in the league above). There are looks like two different playable teams in the bottom division. AFC Wivelsfield Wanderers who seem to have been relegated & new side Keymer & Hassocks.

Wivelsfield Wanderers might be folding, they haven't got any players registered. They had a second team in Division Eleven last season and folded one month into the season without playing a game. Keymer & Hassocks are a returning club to the league, they were last in the league in 2013-14, but there was a team called Keymer in one of the higher divisions last season.

It's good to see Burgess Hill Albion back in the Mid Sussex after their 1 year merger with Hurstpierpoint.

Wivelsfield Wanderers might be folding, they haven't got any players registered. They had a second team in Division Eleven last season and folded one month into the season without playing a game. Keymer & Hassocks are a returning club to the league, they were last in the league in 2013-14, but there was a team called Keymer in one of the higher divisions last season.

If I remember, Keymer & Hassocks played at Adastra Park, Hassocks FC's old ground before they moved to the Beacon

It's good to see Burgess Hill Albion back in the Mid Sussex after their 1 year merger with Hurstpierpoint.

They were in the Mid-Sussex League last season too as Burgess Hill & Hurst Albion, AFC Bolnore beat their fourth team 6-0 in one of the league cup competitions.

If I remember, Keymer & Hassocks played at Adastra Park, Hassocks FC's old ground before they moved to the Beacon

Yeah they do mate, they're playing there this season. I think Keymer did last season to be honest, but will have to check my records.

They were in the Mid-Sussex League last season too as Burgess Hill & Hurst Albion, AFC Bolnore beat their fourth team 6-0 in one of the league cup competitions.

I know the first team were in the Sussex County League and they kept their reserve teams in the Mid Sussex Leagues, I saw Burgess Hill Albions last home game of the 13/14 season against Cuckfield Rangers at Fairfield Rec in Burgess Hill, both sides starting keepers were both former Burgess Hill Town players plus Albion had a few more outfield players who had been with the club

Can a mod please change the title to [FM2016] England Level 23

Done. Probably best to post those sort of requests in the Mod Requests sticky in the main Editor forum, that way things won't get missed

a complete level 23 ?

As much as I can without the file lagging in-game. It took me a few months to do the last one so me adding more leagues will take longer.

Could you do my earlier suggestions as i am from the area and would really like to be able to play as my local teams on fm

I will look to add as many Level 11 leagues as possible plus more in Level 12

Also, if I feel as if I'm able to I will add the leagues from Isle of Man, Isles of Scilly, Guernsey, Jersey and possibly a fictional Falkland Islands league. These will be English nations rather than standalone nations.

Dan would it be possible if you included the South West Peninsula Division One which has the East and West Leagues? Barring Truro City football down here in Cornwall is rather obscure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_South_West_Peninsula_League

Dan would it be possible if you included the South West Peninsula Division One which has the East and West Leagues? Barring Truro City football down here in Cornwall is rather obscure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_South_West_Peninsula_League

Yeah I'll add those leagues to the database

How many new teams did you make from scratch?

Nearly all teams in Level 10, then every team from Level 11 down

Nearly all teams in Level 10, then every team from Level 11 down. Nearly 16,000 changes in my last database so that's clubs, kits, stadiums, towns, all that sort of thing

So all the teams in levels 7-9 & some of level 10 are already in the game. What about the leagues? The reason I ask is I didn't buy FM2015.

Yeah, most of Level 9 and some level 10 clubs are in the database

So all the teams in levels 7-9 & some of level 10 are already in the game. What about the leagues? The reason I ask is I didn't buy FM2015.

All leagues down to Level 9 are in the game.

When you mean kits do mean colors changed in the editor or kits made from scratch?

Just a note could you make it so FC Romania have Romanian regens? I noticed that their regens had English names and No Romania Second Nationality and as far as I know only Romanians can play for FC Romania? to do it In my Australian Pyramid I duplicated the city and set the local region as a local region from Serbia for and made the duplicated city the city of the club Bonnyrigg White Eagles for example. just a suggestion as it would make a tiny bit more realistic

Dan: Why don't you start working together with magic mastermind and theri England Enhanced Expanded project? Both projects wants to expand England and if both projects work together you will save research time and probably could make a better mod.

Just a note could you make it so FC Romania have Romanian regens? I noticed that their regens had English names and No Romania Second Nationality and as far as I know only Romanians can play for FC Romania? to do it In my Australian Pyramid I duplicated the city and set the local region as a local region from Serbia for and made the duplicated city the city of the club Bonnyrigg White Eagles for example. just a suggestion as it would make a tiny bit more realistic

Not entirely true

Does the team consist only of Romanians or are foreigners accepted?

We organise trials to find new players before every season and nationality is not important. If the player is considered to be of help, our arms are wide open. For the moment however, the team only consists of Romanians.

BWE doesn't only sign Serbs either, Wellington just signed Dylan Fox from there who certainly isn't Serb lol

Not entirely true

Does the team consist only of Romanians or are foreigners accepted?

We organise trials to find new players before every season and nationality is not important. If the player is considered to be of help, our arms are wide open. For the moment however, the team only consists of Romanians.

BWE doesn't only sign Serbs either, Wellington just signed Dylan Fox from there who certainly isn't Serb lol

of course, but I'm just saying that because of the regens they can still sign foreigners etc. but would still be a good if they're producing players from their own ethnic group. Like a few years down the line there will be no Romanians playing for FC Romania if this makes sense at all

of course, but I'm just saying that because of the regens they can still sign foreigners etc. but would still be a good if they're producing players from their own ethnic group. Like a few years down the line there will be no Romanians playing for FC Romania if this makes sense at all

On my FM15 database I made it so FC Romania had Romanian regens as well as English

As much as I can without the file lagging in-game. It took me a few months to do the last one so me adding more leagues will take longer.

Will you be doing a 'stripped-down' version with just one thread from c level 10 or 11 going down to level 23?

I will more than likely do a Level 10/11 release before Level 23

I will more than likely do a Level 10/11 release before Level 23

Sure, but with the one going down to L23, can you just activate the leagues that go directly to the L23 league, without loading up all the other leagues that your L23 club will never get promoted to? I'm mindful of not overloading my savegame file and slowing everything down.

The reason I'm asking is because I have an experiment I'd like to explore. The idea is to create a team (using the editor, not the new FM16 function) with every player being aged 15 with CA1 and PA 200. all other attributes, hidden and unhidden being untouched. The club would need, therefore, to start at the lowest conceivable level. Without buying any players and tweaking all new youth recruits to start with CA1, I want to see how far I can take such a team (I know all the caveats and I know how to rig the data to ensure the players stay with the club, by the way).

Oooooooh please.... Kemptown Rangers here we come!!!

Had a look at the editor this afternoon after I finished work, I'm halfway through Level 9, making sure that latitude and longitude are set for the grounds and club colours are correct. So far no problems!

Level 9 leagues completed, unfortunately can't do anymore editing today as am up early for work but doing a holiday test to see if it's all ok

Level 9 leagues completed, unfortunately can't do anymore editing today as am up early for work but doing a holiday test to see if it's all ok

Appreciate the work pal, any idea when your first release will be? Looking at starting with Salford City

I'll be hoping to release a Level 11 file over the next few weeks but haven't got a date in mind yet

Dan would it be possible if you included the South West Peninsula Division One which has the East and West Leagues? Barring Truro City football down here in Cornwall is rather obscure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_South_West_Peninsula_League

would love to manage appledore...used to live 10 mins away and was secretary of bideford & appledore junior football club at the time, so went to marshford as much as possible for social events

FC Romania seem to have a really good squad of players for Level 9, in the test runs I've done they won every league game, I might have to release their whole squad and have a squad of regens which should make the league fairer

FC Romania seem to have a really good squad of players for Level 9, in the test runs I've done they won every league game, I might have to release their whole squad and have a squad of regens which should make the league fairer

I seem to remember last year when I was playing/holidaying they went back to back and got to the Conference South but never kicked on from there getting relegated in the second season (in the conference south) also Quorn also went invincible one year and got to the Conference South and were signing some quality players (including Jason Puncheon) They eventually got to the Conference Premier but couldn't do anything from there

FC Romania seem to have a really good squad of players for Level 9, in the test runs I've done they won every league game, I might have to release their whole squad and have a squad of regens which should make the league fairer

Yes, without giving too much away, in the original db they have a full squad whose average CA is about 3x higher than the other odd individuals in that league.

FC Romania seem to have a really good squad of players for Level 9, in the test runs I've done they won every league game, I might have to release their whole squad and have a squad of regens which should make the league fairer

Can't you downgrade their players. Are they walking the league in real life? I have just looked at the league & see they are 8th, though with games in hand, but hardly destroying the rest. Seems the players are very overrated in database.

Can't you downgrade their players. Are they walking the league in real life? I have just looked at the league & see they are 8th, though with games in hand, but hardly destroying the rest. Seems the players are very overrated in database.

Most of the players in their first team have played professionally in Romania so I think have been in the database in the past

Most of the players in their first team have played professionally in Romania so I think have been in the database in the past

Dan, I have been looking at the clubs in the Essex leagues in the database, & the main issue seems to be someone has researched all the squad for FC Romania, vastly overrating them, but no on seems to have bothered with the other sides, with only none or one player in the database. FC Romania reputation is only slightly more than most of the teams in the league, so I presume most of the players will want to leave the club as believing they are to good for that level. That probably explains why certain clubs have raced through a couple of leagues then stopped, as the players have probably left.

Just a quick update. I'm currently halfway through Level 10, there are more teams in this level this season so it's taking longer than it really should!

dan will you have the county cups in this

He did last year I believe, so I would of thought he has this year.

dan will you have the county cups in this

I will add the league cups, I might do another release with the County Cups

Just having a slight problem with teams from Essex moving into the Northern League Division 1 North on season update day, can't seem to be able to sort it!