talhak Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hi, As we all know, Windows 10 Final build is released which brings the brand new DirectX12 alongside lots of changes. A technical question to developers; does it affect the gameplay performance or does not matter if an external & up-to-date GPU is used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjh567 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm not a developer just a humble fm15 player, but I had problems with fm15 causing the laptop to restart on windows 8.1. But since windows 10 it hasn't crashed once. So yes I would count my experience as a big improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I had problems with the game becoming extremely laggy after updating to Windows 10, but after I changed from fullscreen mode to windowed mode, the game plays smoother and faster than it ever did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Slightly better with 10, though it does lag a little bit if I have other programs running alongside, e.g. mediamonkey or reader. Will try running in windowed to see if it improves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjh567 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Windowed mode works alot better. Have stuck with windowed since I tried it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talhak Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 thanks everyone for sharing their experiences; all of them are very valuable indeed. The main difference for game performance between Win 8.1 and Win 10 is DirectX 12. So we need to learn that whether FM16 will use DirectX 12 or not. Imo that will give a clear hint about performance difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 AFAIK DX12 is not supported in FM15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talhak Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 AFAIK DX12 is not supported in FM15. DirectX 12 comes with Win 10 which is released recently. I have 2 questions: - Will FM16 use DX12? - Does FM15 use DX11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Too soon to know about FM16, min specs for FM15 is DX9. TBH as FM is not full of high fidelity graphics so I'm not sure it is anywhere close to benefiting from DX12. There's a post from a senior SI coder on the subject somewhere, will have a search for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talhak Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 thanks Barside for your care, hopefully you can find it & we will get the answer. Then everyone can decide if upgrading to Win 10 is necessary or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Found the post I was thinking of but it was to correct someone who incorrectly thought that DX12 would boost general game processing & memory allocation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talhak Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 thanks Barside; this is also an answer we are looking too - so we can infer that Win 10 will not affect FM16 game performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Until something official comes out of SI Towers we cannot infer anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQ13PS Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I have also found that in windowed mode FM15 seems to run smoother under Windows 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavessi Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 DirectX 12 comes with Win 10 which is released recently. I have 2 questions:- Will FM16 use DX12? - Does FM15 use DX11? No and no. fm15 still uses dx9 and it is almost certain fm16 will be the same. There is very little reason to use anything other than dx9 for a game like fm15/fm16 because the graphics are never going to be cutting edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talhak Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 No and no.fm15 still uses dx9 and it is almost certain fm16 will be the same. There is very little reason to use anything other than dx9 for a game like fm15/fm16 because the graphics are never going to be cutting edge. so what is your opinion about the FM15/FM16 performance on Windows 10? Will it be better or same with 8.1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I went from running FM 2015 in 1920x1200 windowed mode on Windows 7 to 1920x1200 windowed mode on Windows 10. No difference noticed. I skipped the awful Windows 8 so can't comment on that, but from what I've read, gaming performance is largely similar between W7 and W8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVP Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 This is a interesting thread. I myself have not upgraded to W10 as yet as still have doubts about it, even more so when it comes to FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 This is a interesting thread. I myself have not upgraded to W10 as yet as still have doubts about it, even more so when it comes to FM No need to be. The driver support in W10 is superb, and transition - at least from W7 - smooth as silk. And it's a much, much better OS than the W8 was. (I say was, because no doubt W8 will die quickly now that the far superior W10 is out). I have yet to discover any app, program or device that worked in W7 that does not work in W10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Walds Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I skipped the awful Windows 8 so can't comment on that If you skipped it, how can you think it's awful? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 If you skipped it, how can you think it's awful? :confused: Because I try before I buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Tbh Win 8.1 is solid and I for one won't be getting 10 this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbas2 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I can't think of any reason why not to upgrade to W10. I did from 8.1. It's basically the same... looks a little nicer... it's free. No problems whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio36 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 No problems with windows 10, just got AVG to update all my drivers and all is well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard boy Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Will fm 2013 play on windows 10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Jumped from windows 7 to 10 and have had no problems whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Upgraded to Windows 10 on both my computers a few weeks ago. FM15 worked fine straight away, although I had to reinstall FM13 for it to launch. Since then, I've had no problems whatsoever. As for how FM performs, it's probably the same on Windows 10 if not better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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