asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Here is my tactic pagehttp://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share-download-fm-14-tactics/169053-541-great-defense-superb-goals.html. It only has pass to space and higher tempo shouts to make it play so well. Maybe its my positons as well i dont know it has the twitch video on there too to watch on that page so watch that on full game and it kinda plays like the premier league! My question is does your tactic on full game play as well as this cause if i turn off pass into space then it plays dreadfully i think. So can we have pass into space standard or like we have to do and call it attractive passing game or something and make it you turn it off for worse teams to play better maybe. And if you are a great team then your president or owner makes you have to play like that as part of your contract. There is no complaints about the computer teams cause they play really well but we are maybe playing so badly against them to win games Try and watch your game on full match and i think its time to play football manager like that not quickly go 20 seasons into the game and have unknown players playing and having won the league umpteanth times while playing so badly still. If you are still playing well then say your tactic and i will watch it full game and see how well it plays and see if its got pass into space shout on. Another thing is the in game editor and thankyou to sports interactive for having a legit in game editor for us to buy. I really like the form (morale) boost and do that superb after 6 premier league games and with my tactic it makes it so real and amazing too how spurs play! Anyway any comments would be good. And i want to support form boost or morale boost as it supports sports interactive. And not support game replaying Not exciting! Heres my twitch replays if you need to see for yourself http://www.twitch.tv/neon762/profile/past_broadcasts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Its not really a good tactic tbh. I can see it working against some sides but there are some fairly basic mistakes in it. A) 4 or your 5 defenders on defend duty therefore looking to play safe balls going forwards and not closing down the ball when defending. B) 3 of your 4 midfielders on attack which means only one midfielder is looking to receive possession when your defence wins the ball. With your defenders also on defend it will lead to a large gap between your defence & midfield which the opposition can exploit. C) A lone forward as an attacking AF is a pet peeve of mine, lone forwards IMO should always look to link play and be on a support order. D) You have an attacking mentality and yet ask your team to play an even higher tempo. Overall it will give you ugly route one play in the ME which looks to exploit gaps that the opposition leave at the back. Against teams that sit back and defend there will be no flow to the play and the football certainly won't be pretty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Basically what Cougar said. It's not a very good tactic. You've tried to fit all your best players into a tactic that won't work. Instead of having people lecture you, have a look at this. It helped me massively. http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/375632-Pairs-amp-Combinations-The-Complete-Series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Why do i worry about that, it plays so well just watch the twitch. It just needs a proper box to box midfielder and advanced playmaker like looking for the roles with good enough finishing and long shots. And the advanced forward is the most easiest way to score goals for your striker just look a the stats. you just need one with great first touch. How come i can watch it full game and i turn off the pass into space and it isnt as good to watch but wins more. Playing pass into space makes it play beautifully and its just like watching the premier league full games. You tell me tactics that play full game as well as it then. And put the no shouts or defensive shouts on holiday for spurs and you should get into the champions league which is good enough. Ive tried a lot of other tactics on holiday and they just get me sacked, great for 10 games or so and then just fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbohotdog Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think you are the fair form boost from the editor right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbohotdog Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I just think you are quite arrogant to say that your tactic is beautiful. Also you boost up your players and say they play well that is just baloney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Just to clear something up there is nothing wrong with winning ugly because at the end of the day points are all that matters. You seem to misunderstand the whole tactics thing tbh asmonacodk1. You shouldn't be looking for one overall tactic that you simply press continue with and go on holiday, FM has moved on from this as it is unrealistic and doesn't happen IRL. Each match you face different opposition with different players, formations, roles, duties and personal/team orders. Within the overall framework of your tactic you should be looking to make adjustments when needed via shouts during the match to give your team the best chance of winning. Sure with a solid generic tactic you can still overachieve to some degree but its not the direction FM is heading and you really need to get out of that bad habit. EDIT Missed the form/morale boost part, simply put that is cheating just as much as replaying games is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think it supports sports interactive and its a legit editor and makes the game fairer. Anyway this is not about the tactics and which wins the most its about playing beautifully and whether the pass into space shout does this. You try pass into space for your tactic and say whether it wins as much (which it may not as much as mine) and say whether it plays to watch full game better. If your not interested in full game then dont worry about it but your missing out heaps. Watch my twitch videos if you disagree and how that is so AMAZING!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think real football fans disagree with winning ugly unless they are relegation candidates and thast my point. And i dont think sports interactive care when you support them with the editor. What about fifa you can edit the skill level in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 and your virtual president and fans should not like it either if you win ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Pass into space works for that tactic because you have three midfielders looking to run into space when you win possession but as I said when you come up against teams that focus on defending it won't work anywhere near as well. and no giving your team a form/morale isn't fair because the AI teams don't do it. EDIT How are supporting SI by using the Editor btw? Its free to download and use by anyone who has purchased FM14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Ok it plays so well though that i love watching it now and have never made as beautiful of a tactic i think. You put on pass into space for your tactic and see how well it does and how well it plays full game. And then tell me about that and put a link to your tactic with pass into space on. Replaying games is cheating, a fair form or morale boost isnt cause its supporting sports interactive. Why do i have to keep on saying that. So what do you think a fair form or morale boost is and tell me and if you had to you have to be like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Anyway im watching the real premier league full game in australia, so i want to watch that at the moment. Pretty good tactic for an australian i think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Giving yourself something in the game that wouldn't otherwise be there unless you added it with an editor isn't cheating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 It supports sports interactive and is supported by them as an official sports interactive product like fm 14. And there has always been a pre game editor usually so why worry about an official in game editor and what it does being unfair and im being like if you had to use it what would be fair. I said after you played 6 premier league games and then 12 and so on maybe not for the 36th one. Try it if you need to and see if its fair. If not dont worry about it. I just do it to play beautifully instead of ugly and win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbohotdog Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Its your game so i do not care what you do with your game , just don't brag about your "beautiful" tactic when you use the editor. It just makes you look dumb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 How does it support SI though? The pre-game editor is free, and the in-game editor is a few dollars (I think?). The point is the in-game editor gives you an advantage that you normally wouldn't have. I'm not slating you for using it, it's your game. But don't claim it's not cheating. It is. I don't know what you mean by that list bit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 How does it support SI though? The pre-game editor is free, and the in-game editor is a few dollars (I think?). Answered your own question there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Answered your own question there. I thought he may have meant something beyond financial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Anyway i want to be challenged by all the tactics that have pass into space on and i'll have a look at them full game and see if they are better at winning than mine without form or morale boosts and maybe play ........... Beautifully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Its not about winning that much cause you can edit stuff to do that. Its about to play beautifully full game and still be good enough to win enough that you need to be. And this tactic does that and its because of the pass into space i think and you put pass into space on your tactic which i am growing tired of saying and see if it works as good as mine. And hopefully it might play better to watch full game, its not about my tactic really what im talking about its about pass into space and how that could make default tactics play better and everyones then. If you dont beleive me watch one of my games then edit not your overall current ability but to make a player more its role (eg advanced playmaker, box to box midfielder etc) and have your tactic work then and play beautifully. I think all the dm's should really be less or more box to box midfielders and the am's advanced playmakers and the game would be a lot better and most forwards advanced forwards ( i think maybe they are ) and have it simple like that and The box to box midfielders can play anchor man or whatever but are better utilised as box to box ones. Otherwise subs are hopeless as well with too many midfield options and talking about subs it should be more like it not make that much difference like i said before and thats how ive got it in my twitch, look here http://www.twitch.tv/neon762/profile/past_broadcasts Its about better fm not to download my tactic or my tactic is better than yours but i think it is with pass to space thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinxin Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Seriously though - are you trolling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Trolling what do you mean?????? i am trying to get fm to make everyones play better with pass to space default and try and make a tactic from that and have it look good cause if it does then i think it will probablly work then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think this guy is the greatest troll the SI General Discussion Forum has ever seen, and there's been a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Trolling trolling trolling, all those football managers trolling, RAWHIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Think about fm playing like the premier league on close camera (which i havent said to do yet) which is the best camera in the game like its the premier league. Ive tried to do it can YOU! Dont mock and try it yourself and watch it full game and be analytical about your own tactics then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 He's not Australian. There is no way he's Australian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yes i am just not a sand groper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What a peculiar thread. Of all the questionable content, the OPs aversion to capitalisation is driving me nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sorry to ask but whats an OP. its not me is it? And i am being like to not capitalise or whatever you should say but i will try to now and fix what i've done already if you want. The threads about having the full game play more beautifully for everyones tactic not just for highlights and i think pass to space does this and to just implement that into the players positions by default and have it you can either do it more than pass into space does or less but i would like it more so it doesnt be like to play not as good on full game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 But if you cant its ok because i love how fm 14 is playing now and know i will love how fm 15 will play too with the pass to space shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris0710 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What a peculiar thread. Of all the questionable content, the OPs aversion to capitalisation is driving me nuts. Having just read through this i was thinking the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I *think* you might just be over-egging the impact of Pass Into Space. Either that, or I've fallen for a very subtle joke thread. What do you think that Team Instruction actually does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I dont know i will have to look more at my tactic without that to tell you but i think it is actually that, that is making me play so beautifully. Look at my twitch replays if you dont believe me. Anyway i have tried to have more capitals now I dont know what actually makes it better, maybe we need to be more restrictive with the tactic freedom on the pc like on the ps vita so it plays more like the premier league, the human, because the cpu's ones do which is great. And to watch on full game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What a peculiar thread. Of all the questionable content, the OPs aversion to capitalisation is driving me nuts. I don't know why I keep replying, it's doing my head in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Anyway have a laugh but i bet i will work it out (premier league style plug and play tactic for full match games) for fm 15 first i think like i have for fm 14! And its your loss not mine then i guess. I thought more people would care about it not slander me for saying it. And if fm15 has an official sports interactive in game editor its sold to me!(meaning i'll buy it.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
borobadger Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Reading this thread actually gave me a bit of a headache. I haven't read such incoherent babble on here in about 2 weeks, which is saying something. As far as pass into space goes, it makes my team play like a Sunday League side when I put it on, and 95% of my passes end up intercepted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Thats because of your tactic i think and it should play badly to watch anyway i think for full match mode maybe. Have a look at the best cpu teams and theyre highlights or look at their games in full by watching it. Our tactics need to be more like the premier league to watch full game and maybe need an extra defender to acheive this. I'll watch a game with pass into space off then and comment more then. As for sunday league my spurs teasm is not that for sure! And finally i'm not an english teacher so your right about one thing but why do i have to worry about that to say what i want to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbohotdog Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 nobody here understands what you want to say. I watched your tactics and it SUCKED. It is awful football. Also if you lose do you also edit your morale down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmonacodk1 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 it doesnt suck and its like the premier league really. you give me your tactic and a team and i'll watch them full game and see if its like the premier league because i think it wont be will it and you mustnt like the premier league then i think after watching my games. How is it supposed to be better to watch full game than my tactic? If it is then thats great but dont badger me about having a great tactic for full game and you give me your tactic and i'll compare then, with spurs. borobadger As far as pass into space goes, it makes my team play like a Sunday League side when I put it on, and 95% of my passes end up intercepted This maybe right because it is a sunday league tactic yours and your president should tell you that! But dont worry i think a lot of us have it like that and dont worry about it and should! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This belongs in the tactics forum tbh, and @ the OP, you need to explain what you mean in clearer English please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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