Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hello all, I have recently served another ban on this board for frivilous post reporting. I have been warned of this behaviour before and now I have decided to speak out. In my opinion, some of the mods on this forum fall into one of these categories.... A/ They do not know what the rules are, B/ They only apply the rules to certain users, C/ They interpret the rules in any way they like to punish whoever they want. That's the crux of it. In any event, they should not be mods if they are unwilling and unable to apply the rules evenly and consistently. Sadly, the vast majority of users that actually made this board great in the first place have moved on. I am very close to doing the same. What we're left with is a collection of keyboard warriors that want to wave their virtual-knobs all over the internet to make up for the seemingly lack of pleasure in their real lives. Now, I've been guilty in the past, of course I have. I've served a few bans, mainly for bad language but using *'s to cover up the offending words. I was right to receive those infractions. However, I have learned from that and I no longer use that approach. But it seems many other people do. Let's look at some examples from the Arsenal Thread.... Post 1444 EnterUsernameHere Being better than **** players doesn't mean that Smalling is a good signing. My team has really poor options at left back but it doesn't mean England international Ryan Bertrand is a good signing. Post 1466 PaulHartman71 can't remember what the paper was called, just meant in terms of printing utter fabricated ******** Post 1501 josh_b God you're such a **** sometimes ajw. Wanting wenger sacked if he tries a very talented player in a position you have no idea if he's any good at ffs Post 1506 josh_b (again) There's a massive ****ing difference between trying out an midfielder who is terrible in the air at CB and trying out a central midfielder in a different role in central midfield ffs Of course we need a defensive midfielder, but lets see how the summer shakes out before we start making spazzy "Wenger out!11!!1111" comments. What if Khedira and Bender say they don't want to move this summer and Southampton and Sporting outright refuse to sell? What then? ***** £30m on a fellaini because we need that DM? It's a possibility that no defensive midfielder good enough moves for a reasonable fee and we need to have a contingency if that happens. Not to mention it's John Cross and the ****ing daily mail making these reports ffs And this is the clincher.... Post 1430 aggressive minor Sy is a yid, I see him at White Hart Lane sometimes. So there you have it. I reported a post that is openly racist and not only was it ignored, but I got banned for reporting it! Well done SI on hiring such a bunch of prats to wield their "power" on a family board. To be clear, racism on this board is just fine, go right ahead. All the while I was once banned (quite recently too) for an obvious tongue-in-cheek reference to the unreliable leads on social media by replacing the 'i' with an 'a' in the word Twitter. You only have to look through the Arsenal Thread for other examples of bad language. What I've listed above is a very small handful of instances. Users such as SJ234, CoulthardsJaw, ajw10 etc are just as guilty. But then again, the mods quite like them because they don't have different opinions therefore they don't have to play by the rules. My question is this: if the powers that be are going to insist that everyone follows the rules, why aren't they applied evenly and fairly? If you're only going to target certain users then you can keep it all to yourself. Sy13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted August 16, 2014 SI Staff Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yay, this'll help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry_miller Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 the mods have a simple message to all who enter. Every culture has its distinctive and normal system of government. Yours is democracy, moderated by corruption. Ours is totalitarianism, moderated by assassination. You have been warned. rip sy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 How many posts did you report to get a ban for reporting posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 How many posts did you report to get a ban for reporting posts I think it was two, one was the yid comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Ahhhh the old fake "yid" outrage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Frivolous post reporting was part one of the reason for the ban. Would you like to tell the ladies and gentleman what reason two was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yes. I created an alias account. I was rightly caught and punished. Would you like to explain why racism is acceptable on this forum now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No, that was why your ban got extended, not the reason why you were banned in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 No, that was why your ban got extended, not the reason why you were banned in the first place. Are you honestly going to bypass all the evidence of rule-breaking on this board that I've highlighted? I mean, really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Are you honestly going to hide the reason for your ban that I'm alluding to (probably because you know the other people on the forum will think "oh yeah, fair enough" when they read it)? I mean, really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just bloody tell us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 This is why.... 1) Your persistent and frivolous post reporting for trivial and baseless issues. Eg your "yid" and swearing reports recently. 2) Your anti social and inflammatory behaviour on OTF and FF. You frequently are rude and disparaging towards other users and is ruining the mood on the threads. Apparently, being a total idiot only applies to me and not a large number of others that are far worse than me and swear/use racist terms as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 That one-legged man who's in a bit of bother down Africa way could do with Sy representing him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No one else think that Sy might have a point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 don't think I'd care if he did tbf, is a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No one else think that Sy might have a point? Depends what he was actually banned for, seems like he's not telling the whole story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Possibly. But the reasons for his ban are stated. Fwiw I don't think yid is a trivial insult. Maybe he's making himself an easy target, but surely mods aren't there to ban people for being a nuisance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Where possible we will use this points system to deal with users who continually break the rules, however as a forum we reserve the right to remove any user for any reason at any time. It was a ban in the hope he'd change his posting style: "Please try and watch the manner you conduct yourself with, and, the way you speak to people on the forums. Even by FF leniency - you have gone too far for too long." It's almost like we take into account people's posting history when deciding on infractions... You'll also notice that this thread popped up very soon after one of those reports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yeah, let's make the forums even less fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No one likes a grass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Fight the system! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 It was a ban in the hope he'd change his posting style: "Please try and watch the manner you conduct yourself with, and, the way you speak to people on the forums. Even by FF leniency - you have gone too far for too long." It's almost like we take into account people's posting history when deciding on infractions... You'll also notice that this thread popped up very soon after one of those reports. So how do you excuse ajw10's and josh_b's posting style then? Be consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 No one likes a grass Ask me how much I care. And yet, whenever I've used the *'s to cover a word, even once, I'm banned. Be consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Are ajw and josh consistently that bad? Swearing isn't cool, but I don't really want to be watching what I'm saying in the heat of the moment on an internet forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Who says we did? Unlike you, we (and most other posters) don't publicise everything that goes on behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Who says we did? Unlike you, we (and most other posters) don't publicise everything that goes on behind the scenes. Well, they don't have any infractions listed under their usernames. Bit of a giveaway really. Fine, carry on promoting their behaviour, you're just proving my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Infractions aren't our only method of dealing with things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 *gets popcorn and takes a seat* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 If everyone was banned for swearing then there'd hardly be any users left. There's a line between the casual swearing you sometimes see, and malicious swearing you see others do on occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyinuk Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Mods don't just use infractions to deal with users. There were two occassions in the past where I was PM by the mod about certain things. A quiet advice if you will. I am sure if Sy is not so rude and aggreesive most of the time to others, he wouldn't be infracted so easily. And you can't help but think he simply using the post reporting in trying to get those people who disagree with him an infraction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just to clarify something, Sy was banned for Persistent anti social behaviour in addition to frivolously reporting posts. We're very lenient on swearing in FF and OTF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 absolutely gutted I have work in 10 minutes and don't have time to read through this carnage. This looks like it could be a magical thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri916 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The Championship thread can sometimes get a bit heated but I can't even imagine considering posting in the Arsenal thread (even if I was an Arsenal fan) with people like Sy in there. Must be so so crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop shot Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 *gets popcorn and takes a seat* *Brings coke, pick n' mix and sits next to BG* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamianJMcGrath Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 On a forum such as this, the mods are kings. What they say, goes. There has to be some sort of regulation, which is open to personal interpretations. Sometimes the perception is fair, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's a public warning, sometimes its not. That's the situation. I'm not entirely sure what you're hoping to get out of this thread. It'll probably make people treat you even more unfairly. I mean, what's the best case scenario? Just sit down and shut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyinuk Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The Championship thread can sometimes get a bit heated but I can't even imagine considering posting in the Arsenal thread (even if I was an Arsenal fan) with people like Sy in there. Must be so so crap. It was worse when they have the other guy there, who constantly calling Wenger a cancer for the club and such. Did he get permaban? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 True Andy, I read those reports as Sy waving an imaginary card in the ref's face, he needs to lighten up, grow up and look up (to people like Retro who know how to dish out insults in a civilised manner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I'm enjoying this hugely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopOnBaby Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just to clarify something, Sy was banned for Persistent anti social behaviour in addition to frivolously reporting posts. We're very lenient on swearing in FF and OTF. What? Tipping over bins, having loud parties and the like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 What? Tipping over bins, having loud parties and the like? I think he knocked on Arsene's door and ran away, stuff like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No one else think that Sy might have a point? No. There's no way he's outraged at the "yido" comment, it's faux outrage probably because that poster has called him an idiot before, because you know, he's an idiot. Context matters as well. Like those people who try to stop the Spurs fans calling themselves Yiddo's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted August 16, 2014 SI Staff Share Posted August 16, 2014 Posting in here, just in case this reached the pinnacle of The Hall of Fame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChris Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Well this is embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Oi Sy, if I touch you on the back by accident are you going to collapse screaming and holding your face? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 He talks about racism but he did call Wenger a surrender monkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Ask me how much I care. That's about as much as I care about the consistency of moderating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Watching people have meltdowns on the internet is great fun though isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Fine, carry on promoting their behaviour, you're just proving my point. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Failey Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Didn't Cameron say it was okay saying 'yid'? Or am I getting it mixed up with the bedroom tax? Always doing that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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