redhawk Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Link: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200630291. Used for game version 14.1.4. This tactic has got my Notts Co team promoted from League 1 to the Premiership in successive seasons (after struggling with my trusty 3-5-2 and a sporadic narrow diamond) and is proving to have great longevity as the technical abilities of the players improve. 26 games unbeaten in the league, 42 games successively scored in in all competitions (an online game at that). Short passing between the three attacking midfielders and the striker, with BWMs always available to recycle should the move falter, and overlapping fullbacks providing extra threat. The three different AM roles complement each other. The late runs of the full backs and the solidity of the BWMs mean it is sturdy versus counter-attacks. BWMs are naturally always available for an out ball, but it's crucial to have good full backs who are the wide out ball. The team plays wider but exploits the middle, where the technique is, but as a result of playing wider, the full backs are often available unmarked as the opposition gets drawn inwards. I have always hated playing with one striker, so it is saying something when this tactic works for me; a fairly quick, intelligent and not always selfish striker is required to lead the line. Though I haven't tried it, I very much doubt a target man type striker would work. In central midfield, it doesn't seem to matter if the player is not ideally suited to the BWM role, as long as they can recycle possession efficiently, work hard and position themselves correctly. In this tactic, even full backs who are more central defender than wing back work well. Reda Johnson, for example, appears on paper to be a DC, but works very well as a left back in this formation. For centre backs, simple, good in the air, strong centre backs are needed, no need for flash in this position. Having a right footed DCR and a left footed DCL is a dream, as it aids distribution to the full backs. I very often implement this with opposition instructions of coach suggestions plus 'closing down always' on every player. If you are struggling to break down teams despite enjoying the lion's share of possession, use higher tempo. This match illustrates the tactic perfectly. Away to Wolves who are fourth near the end of the season, won 4-0. [video=youtube;4w6TjebA3oo] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescefesso Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Latest patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 14.1.4 yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescefesso Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 mate upload to mediafire...is not working the link. tank's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy77 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 better upload to mediafire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reece1973 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 now this is the tactic i want. tried this formation and posted in the Tottenham forum but couldnt get it tweaked correctly to work well enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richjb78 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Just gonna try it out now mate, how has your defence been? Could you upload a league table? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickho12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 How can i download this from Steam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Just gonna try it out now mate, how has your defence been? Could you upload a league table? Very good for a newly promoted side. Least in the league, with most goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaii Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 cant donwload it from steam, can u post other link pls? otherwise we cant test it and give u feedback... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reece1973 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 subscribed to it on steam but cannot use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataggy Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 1. Hit 'Subscribe'. 2. On the FM 2014 start screen, click on 'Downloads' 3. Click on 'Steam Workshop' which is next to 'Store' 4. You should see the tactic there. Simply click on 'install'. but can you/someone please upload on here as it dont work for me. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretfordEnd Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 upload it to a file sharing site instead of that steam crap please. Subscribed but still cant do anything. Or somebody that has it upload it elsewhere please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reece1973 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 1. Hit 'Subscribe'.2. On the FM 2014 start screen, click on 'Downloads' 3. Click on 'Steam Workshop' which is next to 'Store' 4. You should see the tactic there. Simply click on 'install'. but can you/someone please upload on here as it dont work for me. thanks ok ive got it now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richjb78 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Very good for a newly promoted side. Least in the league, with most goals. Cheers, been busy but i'll give it ago tonight. No issues subscribing through steam workshop for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reece1973 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ran it in holiday mode managing Spurs and got sacked in November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 cant donwload it from steam, can u post other link pls? otherwise we cant test it and give u feedback... I'm not going to baby sit, Steam is perfectly easy to use, and it's not here for feedback, just for people to use if they wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEric07 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ran it in holiday mode managing Spurs and got sacked in November Holidaying doesn't test a tactic accurately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigzi Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 ^^^^ yeah dont blame the tactic for being sacked, blame your assistant manager since you left everything up to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reece1973 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 ^^^^ yeah dont blame the tactic for being sacked, blame your assistant manager since you left everything up to him in that case theres no point people trying out others tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretfordEnd Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'm not going to baby sit, Steam is perfectly easy to use, and it's not here for feedback, just for people to use if they wish. And you want people to try and test your tactic with that attitude? Yeh ok! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philaly99 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hi mate don't normally post to much but seen you've taken a lot of crap on this post, So I started a new save with liverpool looking good first 12 games (9 league 3 lc games) won 10 drew 2, (draws away to man city and Chelsea) I've scored 25 conceded 3 So far looks fantastic keep up your good work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 And you want people to try and test your tactic with that attitude? Yeh ok! I'm not bothered either way, it's a resource for someone to use. It was no skin off my nose to upload and it doesn't affect my life if it works for some people and not for others, or whether they choose to use it or not. I'm not looking for approval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigzi Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 in that case theres no point people trying out others tactics. Ever heard of actually playing the game? Or do you just put on holiday mode and go watch tv? That isn't playing the game or testing anything. That's just laziness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Hi there. I easily downloaded your tactic through the Steam setup. No problems. Don´t listen to the people complaining about this. I have tried playing in a formation much like this, without wingers, but haven't been able to make one with a good defence, so I am going to see what you have done here. I have been looking for a tactic like yours, and so now I am giving it a go in L2 England, with my newly promoted FC United. I am playing the Dafuge Challenge. Do you feel the OIs are very important? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrimy1888 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Thanks for posting mate, starting a Shakhtar Donetsk game just now and will be playing all day, ill post some screenshots if i dont get too frustrated early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Do you feel the OIs are very important? Somewhat important, you can get by without, but Shift+Clicking all doesn't take much, and it's served me well, ensures your team works hard (or somewhat anyway), which is the first rule in successful performance anywhere in life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannicus89 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What kind of match preparations do you do? I'm about to try the tactics on Chelsea now, starting in january. EDIT: Played altogether 10 games with this tactic, wasn't 100% fluid, was about 80%, and I only won half of the games. The other half were defeats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ever heard of actually playing the game? Or do you just put on holiday mode and go watch tv? That isn't playing the game or testing anything. That's just laziness He's probably one of those who holidays the game then moans about losing all the time anyway. As for the tactic, I have some doubts over it. It looks like it only works via containing the opposition in their own half. I'd expect with a half-decent AI squad they would rip it to shreds because two BWM and FB's going so far up should leave you completely exposed. Of course, I might be giving the AI far too much credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 First season in Premier League: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyh Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I have been really struggling on FM14 on my Hull save, I had 6 points from the first 20 games and 11 from safety and 8 points behind 19th. Was starting to get very frustrated. I have recently implemented your tactics and i have now won 5 of my last 6 games ( 2 cup games), and within 5 points of safety, and i can finally see light at the end of tunnel. Thanks Great tactic, for now at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul7875 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 this is the worst tactic ever a dont think a could even make one as bad and mine are poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 *This is the worst tactic ever. I don't think I could make one as bad, and mine are poor. Much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyh Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Don't use it then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 If you are struggling to break down teams despite enjoying the lion's share of possession, use higher tempo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Tactic is still crap in 14.2.2 (First season, SLF experience, only Tomas Martinez and Strandberg signed (6 starts between them)). To be fair, LB is now WB-A, not FB-A. And the MCR is now DLP-D, not BWM-D. Shape is Fluid, Tempo is High, Defensive Line is High. But essentially the same tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Tactic is still crap in 14.2.2 (First season, SLF experience, only Tomas Martinez and Strandberg signed (6 starts between them)). To be fair, LB is now WB-A, not FB-A. And the MCR is now DLP-D, not BWM-D. Shape is Fluid, Tempo is High, Defensive Line is High. But essentially the same tactic. Tactic looks awesome, I'll try it with Saints eventually once the new patch gets released Have you tried CWBs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatlad86 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 hi gonna try with swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Until Shaw and Chambers develop I wouldn't try CWBs. Get them both tutored early btw, their determination is always crap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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