The 'How Do I Pronounce That?' Thread sponsored by David Pleat

**Harper** · 24-03-2008 02:57

Daniel Vazquez - Daniel Vaskehs

Sometimes Z is sounds like a S in Spanish. Atleast that is what my American Spanish professors told me.

**Neji** · 14-07-2008 18:47

Inspired by my friend and his creative way of saying names

I thought I'd create a thread in which tells other how to pronounce some of the more, cultured names in FM.

I'll start with...

Nabil Khcharem

and one that my friend had trouble with was.... wait for it.... Bogdan Stancu!

**geddes** · 14-07-2008 19:06

Originally Posted by Neji

Inspired by my friend and his creative way of saying names

I thought I'd create a thread in which tells other how to pronounce some of the more, cultured names in FM.

I'll start with...

Nabil Khcharem

and one that my friend had trouble with was.... wait for it.... Bogdan Stancu!

Hmmm I'd say "nab-eel keh-char-em" and (obviously) "Bog-dan Stan-Choo".

Listening to Motty in the Euro's though I'm sure there's hundreds of pronunciations! "Villa.....Viyya.....Villya"??

If anyone knows how to pronounce Balazs Dzsudzsak without getting a headache I'd appreciate it....

**canvey!!** · 14-07-2008 19:10

barl-arsh ds (as in woods)-soods (woods)-sark
Just a reason that I love my book of 301 Polish verbs.

**Sampa** · 14-07-2008 19:13

Balazs Dzsudzsak

I don't actually know but after from hearing it (before they found their pronunciation) I pronounced it as:
Ba-laz Dzud-zshak
I can't explain the latter part of the name with letters but I pronounce it like "shack" but more z like. Kinda like a Spanish J on Jack sound. Lol.

dnt really have 1 for anyone else...

**geddes** · 14-07-2008 19:16

Originally Posted by canvey!!

barl-arsh ds (as in woods)-soods (woods)-sark
Just a reason that I love my book of 301 Polish verbs.

Wow, completely different from what I've been shouting for 3 seasons then! I was pronouncing it "Ball-az Dzu-d-zak" no wonder my head hurts

**VonBlade** · 14-07-2008 19:50

If anyone can explain how Pleat can turn Chimbonda into Chimbomba, I'd love to know

**VonBlade** · 14-07-2008 19:52

Originally Posted by geddes

Balazs Dzsudzsak

Well if my support of Speedway has taught me anything it's how to pronounce the Poles.

Balash ju-jak.

**Neji** · 14-07-2008 19:55

Originally Posted by VonBlade

If anyone can explain how Pleat can turn Chimbonda into Chimbomba, I'd love to know

Or Benayoun into Benny-noon

**Nene_Park_Faithfull** · 14-07-2008 20:03

Victor Manuel Zapata
Edwin Movil
Javier Cuero
Jonathan Buitrago
Sergio Hellings
Cillian Sheridan
Sam Oji

And thats just my Rushden league two team.
I dread to think what its like to manage in Colombia.

**arsenal_2111** · 14-07-2008 20:07

Its awful in Poland, or with my LLM team which has 10/11 polish players is awful!

No cheering names when I score!

**arsenal_2111** · 14-07-2008 20:11

NPF - How did you get a signiture?

**Greg0r** · 14-07-2008 20:25

Originally Posted by Nene_Park_Faithfull

Victor Manuel Zapata
Edwin Movil
Javier Cuero
Jonathan Buitrago
Sergio Hellings
Cillian Sheridan
Sam Oji

And thats just my Rushden league two team.
I dread to think what its like to manage in Colombia.

Cillian Sheridan = Kill-ian

**arsenal_2111** · 14-07-2008 20:32

Victor Manuel Zapata = Vick-tore Man-you-ell Zap-at-ta
Edwin Movil = Edd-win Moh-vill
Javier Cuero = Jav-ee-ay Qu-air-oh
Jonathan Buitrago = Jon-a-thun Boo-it-rago
Sergio Hellings = Sir-gee-oh Hell-ing-s
Cillian Sheridan = Kill-ee-an Sher-i-dun
Sam Oji = Sam Oh-gee

Thats how i'd say them TBH.

**Canabary** · 14-07-2008 20:51

Originally Posted by arsenal_2111

Victor Manuel Zapata = Vick-tore Man-you-ell Zap-at-ta
Edwin Movil = Edd-win Moh-vill
Javier Cuero = Jav-ee-ay Qu-air-oh
Jonathan Buitrago = Jon-a-thun Boo-it-rago
Sergio Hellings = Sir-gee-oh Hell-ing-s
Cillian Sheridan = Kill-ee-an Sher-i-dun
Sam Oji = Sam Oh-gee

Thats how i'd say them TBH.

Agree on most of them,however...

Sergio Hellings = Ser-Geeo Hey-ings (if he's spanish)
Cillian Sheridan = Sill-ian Shear-i-dun
Sam Oji = Sam O-sjee

**Chrisy177** · 14-07-2008 21:10

A regen in my game called Bas Stroek, Dutch
Don't know if it's 'Stro-ek', 'Stroke' or whatever.

Another Regen, Iker Bengoetxea, Spanish. I'm clueless on that one!

Luis Galeano, Paraguay
Mosaied Awaji, Isreal
Victor Oulai, Ivory Coast, and finally
Fernando Rea (not sure if it's 'ree-a', 'ray-ah' or just 'ray'.)

**Neji** · 14-07-2008 21:16

Luis Galeano, Paraguay
Mosaied Awaji, Isreal
Victor Oulai, Ivory Coast, and finally
Fernando Rea (not sure if it's 'ree-a', 'ray-ah' or just 'ray'.)

Bas Stroek - Id go for Stro-ek
I'm not even going to attempt the Spanish one!
Mosaied Awaji - Mo-Sigh-ed A-Wa-Gee
Victor Oulai - ???
Fernando Rea - I'd go for Ray-Ah

**Chrisy177** · 14-07-2008 21:27

Originally Posted by Neji

I'm not even going to attempt the Spanish one!

Lol

Cheers for the rest

**canvey!!** · 14-07-2008 21:34

Iker Ben-go-et-skier?

**WooYeah** · 14-07-2008 21:44

Llangefni Town is who i'm managing at the moment, but i'm not sure how it's pronounced. I think it's:

Lang-ih-fen-nee

But i'm not too sure :S

**Canabary** · 14-07-2008 21:47

Iker Bengoetxea = eek-er Ben-goh-et-che-a

tx is prenounced che in basque. sheh if he's catelonian.

**Chrisy177** · 14-07-2008 21:51

WooYeah, 'Llan' in welsh is pronounced 'Clan'. Can't tell you the rest of it, I think you're right though.

**Q2thaz** · 14-07-2008 21:51

Originally Posted by WooYeah

Llangefni Town is who i'm managing at the moment, but i'm not sure how it's pronounced. I think it's:

Lang-ih-fen-nee

But i'm not too sure :S

I'm sure it's closer to "Clan Gef Knee" but I've a feeling the Welshmen around here will correct me

**CSF90** · 14-07-2008 22:12

Originally Posted by VonBlade

If anyone can explain how Pleat can turn Chimbonda into Chimbomba, I'd love to know

Pleaty actually pronounces it Shibomba.

**pyewackett** · 14-07-2008 22:22

Originally Posted by Q2thaz

I'm sure it's closer to "Clan Gef Knee" but I've a feeling the Welshmen around here will correct me

Never been there myself. However I am an English speaking Welshman. So I would presume its...

"Llangefni" = Llan - Geff - Nie

The LL is pronounced like a held, spitting sort of sound. That would cut off, I have family in Llanelli, so I am familiar with the pronunciation of the LL sound. So I would assume that's how one would pronounce that town.

Though from my Welsh lessons I'm sure that a singular 'f' sounds like an 'English' 'V' sound. Hmmm. To be honest your not far off to be honest.

**ftg87** · 14-07-2008 22:34

Originally Posted by pyewackett

Never been there myself. However I am an English speaking Welshman. So I would presume its...

"Llangefni" = Llan - Geff - Nie

The LL is pronounced like a held, spitting sort of sound. That would cut off, I have family in Llanelli, so I am familiar with the pronunciation of the LL sound. So I would assume that's how one would pronounce that town.

Though from my Welsh lessons I'm sure that a singular 'f' sounds like an 'English' 'V' sound. Hmmm. To be honest your not far off to be honest.

Aye, it would be LLan-Gev-Nie, with the LL prounced in that special way only welsh people can,
The missus is Welsh

she told me how to say it lol

**Chrisy177** · 14-07-2008 23:30

Originally Posted by Canabary

Iker Bengoetxea = eek-er Ben-goh-et-che-a

tx is prenounced che in basque. sheh if he's catelonian.

He was born in Artajona, and his other nationality is basque, so it must be 'che'

**paulpaps** · 14-07-2008 23:49

My mate calls Shevchenko, "Shevanenko". He's just strange though. He just can't seem to say Shevchenko.

**The Lambs** · 14-07-2008 23:57

I am currently stumped on two of my regens:

Tomotsuna Yazawa from japan (Tom-ott-soona Yaz-zawa is my attempt)
and
Fikru Tefera from ethiopia (Thick-roo Te-Fearer is the guess on that one)

If any one knows better it would help, as both get a fair few goals each season)

**Bhoy** · 15-07-2008 00:13

Ivan Rakitic - Eye-van Ra-sha-tik (that's how BBC pronounced it)

**Canabary** · 15-07-2008 00:28

Originally Posted by Bhoy

Ivan Rakitic - Eye-van Ra-sha-tik (that's how BBC pronounced it)

sounds very english-like to me. Ee-van Raak-itish (Most english can't prenounce the first part of his last name)

**ahmufcwafc** · 15-07-2008 00:33

Originally Posted by Canabary

sounds very english-like to me. Ee-van Raak-itish (Most english can't prenounce the first part of his last name)

WHS. There's something seriously wrong with the BBC if they pronounce Rakitic's name like that! LOL

**Neji** · 15-07-2008 00:33

Originally Posted by The Lambs

I am currently stumped on two of my regens:

Tomotsuna Yazawa from japan (Tom-ott-soona Yaz-zawa is my attempt)
and
Fikru Tefera from ethiopia (Thick-roo Te-Fearer is the guess on that one)

If any one knows better it would help, as both get a fair few goals each season)

Tomotsuna Yazawa - Tomo-Soo-Na Yaz-owa?

**Canabary** · 15-07-2008 00:39

Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc

WHS. There's something seriously wrong with the BBC if they pronounce Rakitic's name like that! LOL

This might sound stupid, but what does WHS mean?

**ahmufcwafc** · 15-07-2008 00:43

What he said

**Canabary** · 15-07-2008 00:50

Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc

What he said

Ah! that makes sense

thanks. ^_^

I've been wondering..

Gai Yigaal Assulin ? I was considering G-ai Ji-geal As-sul-in But I'm not sure :/

**sotongomad76** · 15-07-2008 00:58

Ive always wanted to know how to pronounce Llasantaffraid (?) as in TNS...

**chengharry** · 15-07-2008 11:12

The Lambs, your Japanese regen is called To-mo-tsu-na Ya-za-wa :-)

**robzilla** · 15-07-2008 12:12

Originally Posted by Chrisy177

A regen in my game called Bas Stroek, Dutch
Don't know if it's 'Stro-ek', 'Stroke' or whatever.

Stroek rhymes with "shook".

**SWaRFeGa** · 15-07-2008 12:23

Someone should tell Pleat that it's Jose "Bosingwa" not "Boss-swinger".

Also Teddy Sheringham likes to be called...Teddy Sheringham.
NOT :-
Terry Sheddingham
Teddy Sheridan

And yes, as someone earlier mentioned - Yossi Benayoun, not "Benna-noon". That always rattles my cage when watching ITV Champions League!

PS. What does David Pleat actually want? Go away. I'd rather listen to wideboy Ian Wright.

**The Lambs** · 15-07-2008 12:30

Originally Posted by chengharry

The Lambs, your Japanese regen is called To-mo-tsu-na Ya-za-wa :-)

Cheers, He has performed much better since I started shouting his name correctly and he has green arrows on all his important stats now :-)

Irronically, I am really tempted to look at his PA, I think he is going to be a monster of a player, he is only 21 and he has better stats than most premier players.

**Bhoy** · 15-07-2008 15:43

Hugo Lloris - Hew-go Li-low-riss

**The Havok** · 15-07-2008 16:06

Originally Posted by Bhoy

Hugo Lloris - Hew-go Li-low-riss

I pronounce Hugo Lloris - Hew-go Lo-ris, but please correct me if i'm wrong.

**chengharry** · 15-07-2008 16:11

Originally Posted by The Lambs

Cheers, He has performed much better since I started shouting his name correctly and he has green arrows on all his important stats now :-)

This could be a new feature in FM 09.... what kind of manager cant pronounce the name of his own player lol

**McMaster#28** · 15-07-2008 16:16

I prounced Lloris the same as The Havok, good to know the correct way now.

**4457** · 15-07-2008 16:23

This may seem simple, but Martyn Margarson — as simple as it looks? Mar-gar-son? Or is it some Polish or Eastern European root? Rushden, if anyone is wondering.

**arsenal_2111** · 15-07-2008 17:35

Heres some for you...

Musa Razzaq
Krzyztof Oslowski
Lukasz Mieszcsak
Artur Skiba
Kamil Waszlusko
Grzegorz Gorski
Ariel Okrzesik
Tomasz Kocizewski
Lukasz Krymowski
Waldemar Sotnicki

Have fun

Also Bacary Sagna, cant say that!!!

**small Mac** · 15-07-2008 18:05

No idea how to pronounce this spanish newgen:

Jon Aurrekoetxea

**Bhoy** · 15-07-2008 18:28

The Hugo Lloris one is how I pronounce it and how people I know pronounce it, not 100% sure though.

**Liam-Shannon** · 15-07-2008 18:50

Yves makabu ma kalambay

**Bhoy** · 15-07-2008 19:03

Yves Makabu ma Kalambay = Yes Mah-kah-boo ma Kah-lamb-bay

**Bhoy** · 15-07-2008 20:30

Dirk Kuyt - Duhrk Koy-t

**pelicanstuff** · 16-07-2008 01:35

"Aurrekoetxea" Ouch.

Aw-re-coe-tchea?

**Rocknrollpear** · 16-07-2008 10:57

Originally Posted by geddes

hmmm i'd say "nab-eel keh-char-em" and (obviously) "bog-dan stan-choo".

Listening to motty in the euro's though i'm sure there's hundreds of pronunciations! "villa.....viyya.....villya"??

If anyone knows how to pronounce balazs dzsudzsak without getting a headache i'd appreciate it....

balas sud-jack

**MJGB** · 16-07-2008 11:06

How about ;

~ Lulinha
~ Andrei Arshavin (Insert joke about his surname here)
~ Petr Cech

Also, is Dong Fangzhou pronounced Dong Fang-Zoo?

**pelicanstuff** · 16-07-2008 12:08

I'm pretty sure it's more like Ju-Jack...

**emgergo** · 16-07-2008 12:15

Originally Posted by Sampa

Balazs Dzsudzsak

I don't actually know but after from hearing it (before they found their pronunciation) I pronounced it as:
Ba-laz Dzud-zshak
I can't explain the latter part of the name with letters but I pronounce it like "shack" but more z like. Kinda like a Spanish J on Jack sound. Lol.

dnt really have 1 for anyone else...

OK, here we go

It's like Ba-lazh (the ending is like the French "J" in "Jean") Dzhu-dzhak (zh like the French "J" mentioned before). The "a" at the end is like the "a" in "car".

Here you can hear it by a native speaker: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SshFisDh9f0

**4457** · 16-07-2008 15:53

Originally Posted by 4457

This may seem simple, but Martyn Margarson — as simple as it looks? Mar-gar-son? Or is it some Polish or Eastern European root? Rushden, if anyone is wondering.

Anyone?

Originally Posted by Bhoy

Yves Makabu ma Kalambay = Yes Mah-kah-boo ma Kah-lamb-bay

Yves is more like "Eves" than "Yes".

Originally Posted by MJGB

How about ;

~ Lulinha
~ Andrei Arshavin (Insert joke about his surname here)
~ Petr Cech

Also, is Dong Fangzhou pronounced Dong Fang-Zoo?

It's a Chinese name, so it's hard to show the intonations. For all intents and purposes, Dong (with a hard 'o' sound rather than an 'on' sound) Fang (not 'fan', but an 'a' sound as in 'far') Zhou ('Zh' like 'j', 'ou' like the sound in 'over').

**Bhoy** · 16-07-2008 15:59

Lulinha = Loo-leen-ya
Andrei Arshavin = An-dray Arse-sha-vin
Petr Cech = Peh-tur Check

**small Mac** · 16-07-2008 16:02

Originally Posted by pelicanstuff

"Aurrekoetxea" Ouch.

Aw-re-coe-tchea?

Good call - seems about right. I can now say his name without having to slowly read each sylable!

**AndyFromDonny** · 16-07-2008 16:12

One of mine Gorrotxategi? Well confusing. His first name is Eneko so I gave him Eneko as a nickname and call him that.

**LutonNil** · 16-07-2008 17:53

How do you pronounce this one Mr Pleat

Krb Krallin

Older members will know what I'm talking about

Luton Town car park late 70's

allegedly

**jakes** · 16-07-2008 20:16

Originally Posted by Bhoy

Dirk Kuyt - Duhrk Koy-t

Actually, the way the English pronounce Kuyt incorrectly as "Cow-t" for some reason.

It actually should sound like "Kay-t" or almost like "Kate".

**jakes** · 16-07-2008 20:20

Another one that keeps baffling me is the way the English commentators pronounce Rosicky - they have somehow come up with the idea that it should be pronounced "Ros-itz-kee".

I would have thought it should sound like "Ros-ich-kee" or just "Ros-ick-ee".

Can someone from Czech Rep clear this up please!

**Neji** · 16-07-2008 20:27

Personally, I say ROSS-ICKY but I beleive that the way commentators pronounce it is right. The c is pronounced like TZ on the end of MoriTZ.

**fmfulhamfan** · 16-07-2008 20:27

A couple of Russian ones I get confused with:

Sergey Ignashevich
Dinijar Bilyaletdinov

thanks in advance.

Great idea for a thread by the way.

**Bluenose_92** · 16-07-2008 20:31

Emil Kenzhisariev

Eldor Magdiev

Maxim Zhalmagambetov

Morat Suyumagambetov

those 4 from my AFC Toast side would be appreciated, especially when 3 of them score regularly and one is my star CB.

**Mike7077** · 16-07-2008 21:29

Originally Posted by jakes

Another one that keeps baffling me is the way the English commentators pronounce Rosicky - they have somehow come up with the idea that it should be pronounced "Ros-itz-kee".

I would have thought it should sound like "Ros-ich-kee" or just "Ros-ick-ee".

Can someone from Czech Rep clear this up please!

I'm not from the Czech Republic, but "Ros-itz-kee" is correct. In many Eastern European languages the 'c' makes a sound like a 't' followed by an 's' would in English. We often confuse it with a 'ch' sound. But "Ros-itz-kee" is definitely correct.

**sotongomad76** · 17-07-2008 01:19

Originally Posted by LutonNil

How do you pronounce this one Mr Pleat

Krb Krallin

Older members will know what I'm talking about

Luton Town car park late 70's

allegedly

I'm REALLY intrigued by this one

**LutonNil** · 17-07-2008 01:25

Originally Posted by sotongomad76

I'm REALLY intrigued by this one

You can't be old enough

**radicell** · 17-07-2008 01:42

Nuneaton? it seems like a weird way to spell a name to me

**Chrisy177** · 17-07-2008 04:44

Joonas Lehtola, Finnish
Caeteno, Brazilian
Monteiro, Portuguese (Probably Mon-teero)
Cordeiro, Brazilian (Probably Cor-deero)
Victor Oulai, Ivory Coast (I say it Ool-eye)
My Spanish star, Iker Bengoetxea (who I pronounce simply 'Ben-GOTcha')
Nils Peschel, German (correct me if I'm wrong, Neels PEH-shell)
De Bellis, Bellinzona, Switzerland (not sure if you pronounce the 's')
Trullet, Argentinian
Daniel Vazquez, Brazil (Do you pronounce the 'z'?)

Phew!

**nick...** · 17-07-2008 20:39

I'd be crap at helping with this thread.

I was calling Luca De Simone "Di Sim-ee-oh-nee" for years before i noticed.

Then when I did, I've continued calling him it because it rolls off the tongue better and i've gotten so used to shouting it at the screen.

**arsenal_2111** · 17-07-2008 20:54

radicell

Noon-ee-t-uh-n

**barto123** · 18-07-2008 02:18

Originally Posted by Mike7077

I'm not from the Czech Republic, but "Ros-itz-kee" is correct. In many Eastern European languages the 'c' makes a sound like a 't' followed by an 's' would in English. We often confuse it with a 'ch' sound. But "Ros-itz-kee" is definitely correct.

With eastern european names, when the name ends in "ic" its pronounced "itch". For example, Micheal Petkovic (an aussie with a croatian name) is pronounced pet-kov-itch.

But when the "ic" is in the name and not at the end it may be pronounced differently, thats what i think.

**Harper** · 18-07-2008 02:34

Not football related, but name related...one of my friends back in high school pronounced Alexander Ovechkin (NHL player-Washington Capitals for those of you who don't follow NHL) as Alexander Oven-King...he was being dead serious too.

**Gauvner** · 18-07-2008 13:11

Originally Posted by barto123

With eastern european names, when the name ends in "ic" its pronounced "itch". For example, Micheal Petkovic (an aussie with a croatian name) is pronounced pet-kov-itch.
.

Its the same with Names which end in "c" like Kovac. Thats pronounced Kova-tch like nearly a tutting sound

**jqmota** · 18-07-2008 14:16

Originally Posted by LutonNil

How do you pronounce this one Mr Pleat

Krb Krallin

Older members will know what I'm talking about

Luton Town car park late 70's

allegedly

I know what you mean, but only because I read about it in one of the old Championship Manager magazines from a few years back. There was a feature on embarrassing things that managers (and players I think) had done...

**Neji** · 18-07-2008 20:23

I'll give these a go.

Joonas Lehtola - Joo-Nas Lay-Tola
Caeteno - Tricky one maybe Ki-Teno
Monteiro - Id agree with Mon-Teero
Cordeiro - Cor-Deero
Victor Oulai - Ool-Eye is probably what I'd go for too
My Spanish star, Iker Bengoetxea - Eye-Ker Ben-Got-Chea
Nils PeschelPeh - Shell sounds about right
De Bellis - I would think that you would say the 's'.
Trullet - Troo-Lay(?)
Daniel Vazquez - Vaz-Quez. I'd think that the 'z' should be pronounced.

Phew - Fee-ew!

**NepentheZ** · 19-07-2008 19:51

Pushed back up to page 1.

**JockStein1967** · 19-07-2008 23:00

[QUOTE

If anyone knows how to pronounce Balazs Dzsudzsak without getting a headache I'd appreciate it....[/QUOTE]

Balash zhudzhak
as in sh but zh instead

**bws4lyf** · 19-07-2008 23:47

i dont even know how to spell this guys name but he plays for everton. scored two goals today. Lukas Jutkiewics i think is how it is spelt

**PMLF** · 20-07-2008 03:26

Caeteno - Tricky one maybe Ki-Teno
Monteiro - Id agree with Mon-Teero
Cordeiro - Cor-Deero

Caetano (not Caeteno) -> Ki-ta-noo
Monteiro -> Mon-tayroo
Cordeiro -> Cor-dayroo

The "ae" is pronounced more or less like the English word "I".

The "ei" is pronounced more or less like the "ay" in "day".

The "o" in the end is somewhat like a softer "oo".

**Neji** · 20-07-2008 13:08

Originally Posted by PMLF

Caetano (not Caeteno) -> Ki-ta-noo
Monteiro -> Mon-tayroo
Cordeiro -> Cor-dayroo

The "ae" is pronounced more or less like the English word "I".

The "ei" is pronounced more or less like the "ay" in "day".

The "o" in the end is somewhat like a softer "oo".

Cool that makes sense.

i dont even know how to spell this guys name but he plays for everton. scored two goals today. Lukas Jutkiewics i think is how it is spelt

Lukas Jutkiewicz. How to pronounce it? I don't know

**Scotty Walds** · 20-07-2008 14:48

Loo-cuss Jutt-kee-vics?

**Franco_Orient** · 20-07-2008 15:47

Originally Posted by Canabary

Agree on most of them,however...

Sergio Hellings = Ser-Geeo Hey-ings (if he's spanish)
Cillian Sheridan = Sill-ian Shear-i-dun
Sam Oji = Sam O-sjee

Sam Oji is Sam Odge-e. (Ex Orient lad)

**metal_guitarist** · 20-07-2008 17:15

It's Loo-cass Ju-kia-witch. And 4-2 by the way :P Bounce Bounce Amber Army!!!!

**bws4lyf** · 20-07-2008 18:28

Frantisek Dvorak ?

**Scotty Walds** · 20-07-2008 19:10

Fran-tee-sec Dvor-jhak

**llama3** · 20-07-2008 19:17

just to clear up 2 of these:
David Villa - in spanish 'll' is pronounced as a 'y' so its Daa-vid Viya
Lukasz Fabianski - pronounced Wu-cash Fab-ee-an-skee

**bws4lyf** · 21-07-2008 00:07

Originally Posted by Scotty Walds

Fran-tee-sec Dvor-jhak

the "Dv" is the difficult part, how exactly would that be pronounced?

**Bhoy** · 21-07-2008 00:31

I thought Lukasz Fabianski = Loo-kas Fab-ee-an-skee.

**Legionaire** · 21-07-2008 12:56

it seems that in spanish v and b read b when it's the first letter, while ll should read /ʎ/ (ʎ not λ) but people usually read y
so villa is bi-ya or bi-/ʎ/a
but does anyone know how to read /ʎ/?

and for Dong Fangzhuo(not fangzhou) it's do-ng fa-ng zhu-aw

in chinese, ng is /ŋ/
so 'ing' is /iŋ/ 'eng' is /əŋ/ 'ong' is /uŋ/ 'ang' is /ɑŋ/ however 'an' is /an/ not /ɑn/

to make it more practical
english 'Long' resemble chinese 'Lang'
english 'Lang' resemble chinese 'Lan'
english 'Lon' resemble chinses 'Long'

so don fong zhu-aw is ok

**VonBlade** · 21-07-2008 13:03

It's ( /ʎ/ ) a Y. Like Juan. So be-ya.

**Legionaire** · 21-07-2008 13:04

i made a mistake, english 'loong' is more similar to chinese'long'
so doong fong zhu-aw

**VonBlade** · 21-07-2008 13:05

Originally Posted by bws4lyf

the "Dv" is the difficult part, how exactly would that be pronounced?

Da-Vorak.

But a really brief Da. Imagine saying Daddy, but where you have the ddy, put the vorak bit.

**emgergo** · 21-07-2008 13:32

Originally Posted by Gauvner

Its the same with Names which end in "c" like Kovac. Thats pronounced Kova-tch like nearly a tutting sound

That is not always true.

E.g. there is a guy playing in Hungary, who's called Orabinec, but the ending is like "ts" in "tsunami".

So if there is a Č, then the sound itself is /tʃ/ (like in Czech), while if it is a normal c, the sound is /ts/ (like in tsunami).

Now as the English rewriting doesn't show which one is Č and which one is c, it's much of a guesswork.

**buzzer** · 21-07-2008 15:24

Originally Posted by Scotty Walds

Fran-tee-sec Dvor-jhak

Close, but it's actually Fran-ti-shek D'vor-jhak.
The ř in Dvořák is hard to pronounce if you don't speak Czech. It's like a combination of a rolled r and the s from pleasure.

**El Zar** · 21-07-2008 22:13

Originally Posted by Neji

Daniel Vazquez - Vaz-Quez. I'd think that the 'z' should be pronounced.

Vath-keth.

Vath is pronounced in the same way as a northerner saying Bath.

**llama3** · 22-07-2008 00:19

Originally Posted by Bhoy

I thought Lukasz Fabianski = Loo-kas Fab-ee-an-skee.

NO definitely Wu-Cash Fab-ee-an-skee

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