sean_oc16 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 vs Spain vs France 23 June 2012, 18:45 UTC Venue Donbass Arena, Shakhtar Capacity: 49,400 Previous meetings Euro 2000 : QF : Spain 1-2 France Euro 1996 : Group Stage : France 1-1 Spain Euro 1992 : Qualifying : Spain 1-2 France Euro 1992 : Qualifying : France 3-1 Spain Euro 1984 : Final : France 2-0 Spain Overall: Played 30: Spain 13 Draw 6 France 11 Preview Spain have never beaten France in a competitive fixture. France were the last team to eliminate Spain from a tournament, beating them in the round of 16 in WC2006. Since then, Spain have lost just once in 38 matches. France were 23 matches unbeaten before losing their previous match to Sweden. Philippe Mexès serves a one-match suspension. Laurent Koscielny is expected to make his competitive debut in his place. Jérémy Ménez, Mathieu Debuchy, Álvaro Arbeloa, Jordi Alba, Fernando Torres, Xabi Alonso and Javi Martínez all have one yellow card to their name. Tournament so far Spain France v Italy D 1-1 v England D 1-1 v Ireland W 4-0 v Ukraine W 2-0 v Croatia W 1-0 v Sweden L 2-0 Squads/teams [TABLE] [TR] [TD]No.[/TD] [TD]Spain[/TD] [TD]France[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD]Iker Casillas[/TD] [TD]Hugo Lloris[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD]Raul Albiol[/TD] [TD]Mathieu Debuchy[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD]Gerard Pique[/TD] [TD]Patrice Evra[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD]Javi martinez[/TD] [TD]Adil Rami[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD]Juanfran[/TD] [TD]Philippe Mexes[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD]Andres Iniesta[/TD] [TD]Yohan Cabaye[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD]Pedro Rodriguez[/TD] [TD]Franck Ribery[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD]Xavi Hernandez[/TD] [TD]Mathieu Valbuena[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD]Fernando Torres[/TD] [TD]Olivier Giroud[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD]Cesc Fabregas[/TD] [TD]Karim Benzema[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD]Alvaro Negredo[/TD] [TD]Samir Nasri[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD]Victor Valdes[/TD] [TD]Blaise Matuidi[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD]Juan Mata[/TD] [TD]Anthony Reveillere[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD]Xabi Alonso[/TD] [TD]Jeremy Menez[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD]Sergio Ramos[/TD] [TD]Florent Malouda[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD]Sergio Busquets[/TD] [TD]Steve Mandanda[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD]Alvaro Arbeloa[/TD] [TD]Yann M'Vila[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD]Jordi Alba[/TD] [TD]Alou Diarra[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD]Fernando Llorente[/TD] [TD]Marvin Martin[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD]Santi Cazorla[/TD] [TD]Hatem Ben Arfa[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]21[/TD] [TD]David Silva[/TD] [TD]Laurent Koscielny[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]22[/TD] [TD]Jeses Navas[/TD] [TD]Gael Clichy[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD]Pepe Reina[/TD] [TD]Cedric Carrasso[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Officials [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Referee[/TD] [TD]Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Assistant referee[/TD] [TD]Renato Faverani (ITA) , Andrea Stefani (ITA)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Additional assistant referee[/TD] [TD]Gianluca Rocchi (ITA) , Paolo Tagliavento (ITA)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fourth official[/TD] [TD]Craig Thomson (SCO)[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Wonder if Spain will bother with a striker this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropa Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 aren't the yellow cards reboot at the end of the qualification stage? I wonder how the central defence will hold against the spaniards. Rami Koscielny, they had a fine game against Serbia, it's nowhere near Spain though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_oc16 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 I think any outstanding yellow cards are wiped after the QF, the reason being that someone can't be suspended for the final because of accumulation of cards in the SF. The commentators on ITV and BBC have been very unclear on this though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 France players all got into a massive row after the Sweden game, they say it's all smoothed over now but it's not exactly the best preparation for the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I think any outstanding yellow cards are wiped after the QF, the reason being that someone can't be suspended for the final because of accumulation of cards in the SF. The commentators on ITV and BBC have been very unclear on this though. You are correct. They brought it in line with the World Cup when FIFA made the change to that tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I love how Martinez has played like five minutes yet he has a yellow card. Del Bosque better start with a striker and Navas. -_- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropa Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 France starting XI Debuchy/Réveillère on the right hand side, why not, to man mark Iniesta probably. Malouda as CM His wondergoal against Serbia was great, but his game against Sweden was a mess, he missed so many easy passes. The midfield is way less impressive than : Makélélé/Viera/Zidane. :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 One does not simply man-mark Iniesta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleys Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Yeah, there really is no point trying to man-mark Iniesta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno-Blood Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The one on the right looks Photoshopped Any news on the Spain team? Torres better be starting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 same as the first game, ie no striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpfc543 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 No strikers again.... zzzzzzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno-Blood Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Stupid Spaniards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The Italian #15 looks like he's trying to walk a tightrope in that Iniesta picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropa Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 http://estaticos01.marca.com/accesible/imagenes/2012/06/19/futbol/eurocopa_2012/espana/1340129615_extras_portada_0_orig.jpg' alt='1340129615_extras_portada_0_orig.jpg'> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleys Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Funny how Spain scored their only goal against Croatia when they took the striker off and went back to the 4-6-0 formation though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Del Bosque doing another false 9, really doing his best to **** up their Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Funny how Spain scored their only goal against Croatia when they took the striker off and went back to the 4-6-0 formation though. thats more to do with the fact that the striker in question was torres though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Got a feeling Spain might win this fairly easily after those reports of a bust-up in the French camp - hope not as I want France to win. Was way out with my prediction last night though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 thats more to do with the fact that the striker in question was torres though or more to do with the fact that Croatia pushed on a lot more in the latter part of the second half, and that was after Torres went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 thats more to do with the fact that the striker in question was torres thoughNot at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Keane just laughing at Carragher He's making a good point tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_cfc Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Never thought I'd see a game with 1 striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleys Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Keane has been sat in the same position for the whole tournament.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Not at all. you think torres would start if it was the torres of 08? genuine question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 or is this just some tactical stubborness from vdb? even put torres in my FF team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 you think torres would start if it was the torres of 08?genuine question Of course, but I don't think it was the decision to take him off that won them the game (technically, it did because Navas scored the winner, but you know what I'm saying) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Most of ITV's and the BBC's coverage has been spent talking about England. Talk about Spain vs France, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleys Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 It was probably more of a case of trying not to lose the game and ensuring they qualify rather than bringing on someone to win the game for them, especially as it was obvious that Croatia would be pushing forward a lot more as the game went on. Then again, Torres hasn't been great this tournament, i think i would have scored against Ireland if i had players like Iniesta and Xavi behind me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasma Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 why does jamie keep asking roy, and only roy, questions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Of course, but I don't think it was the decision to take him off that won them the game (technically, it did because Navas scored the winner, but you know what I'm saying) Yeah thought so. Was just wondering if vdb has some hard-on for this current system for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 why does jamie keep asking roy, and only roy, questions? Is a bit odd that. "Roy, you've been a manager..." Jamie, you've got a current, and better, manager sat just the other side of you, mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Spain to pass a lot, look blunt, bring on Navas and Torres, score late, win 1-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 This is gonna be incredibly dull, 120 minutes of sideways football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Spain to pass a lot, look blunt, bring on Navas and Torres, score late, win 1-0. I hope not but fear this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Not a single Spanish player singing their anthem. Team spirit gone - France to win 2-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_cfc Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Not a single Spanish player singing their anthem. Team spirit gone - France to win 2-1. I take it this is a joke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 1-0 Spain or 0-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 *There's only oooooone, Fernando Torres!* Oh wait, there's two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zvonimir Boban Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Keane has been sat in the same position for the whole tournament.. He can't move, they've got him shackled to that chair 24/7 to stop him from jumping up and biting Chiles' face right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 What's with repeating that 5 times? Never a penalty. If he'd tried to stay on his feet, maybe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I want to neutralise Adrian Chiles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Chris Waddle on 5Live reckoned it was a 'pelanty'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 France have given me many excellent bottles of wine and brandy, Marcel Proust to read, and Zinedine Zidane to admire on the football pitch. It's settled. I'm a Frenchman for the night! Come on France! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 That Alonso shot from the half-way line was going in, wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 France have given me many excellent bottles of wine and brandy, Marcel Proust to read, and Zinedine Zidane to admire on the football pitch. It's settled. I'm a Frenchman for the night! Come on France! I should support France I suppose to. Not really bothered, just hope game is good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Lots of passing, not much action.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I want France through on account of being completely bored by Spain and the collective footballing hard-on for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I take it this is a joke? What's pink and hard? A pig with a pen knife. That's a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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