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    Cappelli is an absolute genius. Makes Messi seem average. Best young talent I ever found. Even at 18 he was a genius.





    Amazing. Too bad I will never find this exact guy ever again in future saves.
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    He's alright.

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    seen better many times, this kind of stuff should be posted in the regen thread found here, aswell

    so would be nice if a mod could lock this

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    No, I'm busy showing off here.

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    Why would it be nice if a mod locked this? A general discussion is well a general discussion. Always someone out there playing some silly high horse game. Grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    Bravery 7. Needs to man up!

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    Nice player Ackter, but he clearly has attention deficit disorder lol.

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    There's a thread on the forum somewhere about poachers/best strikers.

    In that thread there's one or two players that make Tunnicliffe look normal.

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    I would be very wary about believing some of them. Smells of FMRTE.

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    At age 18, and from the team's youth academy ;)



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    Quote Originally Posted by ManagerFootball View Post
    Why would it be nice if a mod locked this? A general discussion is well a general discussion. Always someone out there playing some silly high horse game. Grow up.
    becouse you posted a pointless thread, there is already a thread for stuff like this, hell there's probably countless similar thread already in the gd which you could have found by searching for them

    has nothing to with being on a high horse, you was spamming and technicaly breaking forum rules, Ackter is just lazy and felt like showing of (hell he managed to sneak in while I was posting even)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falahk View Post
    becouse you posted a pointless thread, there is already a thread for stuff like this, hell there's probably countless similar thread already in the gd which you could have found by searching for them

    has nothing to with being on a high horse, you was spamming and technicaly breaking forum rules, Ackter is just lazy and felt like showing of (hell he managed to sneak in while I was posting even)
    Bore off... It's not like he posted a picture of a Shwasticker, coupled with the words 'Heil Hitler' beneath it...

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    What the hell is a Shwasticker?

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    This thread has gone weird.

    If you have a problem with a thread or think the thread should be closed/moved etc, please use the report button and we'll decide if action needs to be taken. Don't post in the thread saying you disapprove, leave it us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mons View Post
    What the hell is a Shwasticker?
    A sticker of Joe Swash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    At age 18, and from the team's youth academy ;)


    He went from Right to Right Only footed?
    As soon as a striker scores more than 50-60 goals in a season then I wouldn't mind cashing in on them. Kind of ruins a game for me when a striker becomes godlike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryknow View Post
    He went from Right to Right Only footed?
    As soon as a striker scores more than 50-60 goals in a season then I wouldn't mind cashing in on them. Kind of ruins a game for me when a striker becomes godlike.
    No, his footedness was edited as part of a test (the thread is on the forum somewhere, about the effect of having Either feet on a player's attributes and if it makes a difference to their performance) - his attributes pretty much all jumped by 1 or 2 points as soon as all the skill was taken from his left foot, and he ended up scoring about 20-30 more goals a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mons View Post
    What the hell is a Shwasticker?
    Meh, spelling was never my strong point.

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    He is a good regen, doesnt make Messi look average by any shout, but still a very good player.

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    LOL, Ackter has been caught out as a cheat. A player's weaker foot will never deteriorate. Actker clearly changed his left foot to 1 to enhance the appearance of his other attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocuous View Post
    LOL, Ackter has been caught out as a cheat. A player's weaker foot will never deteriorate. Actker clearly changed his left foot to 1 to enhance the appearance of his other attributes.
    Yes I did "cheat", I also "admitted" it here and, as stated further up, there was an entire thread dedicated to it while I was doing it.

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    Here we go, here's the thread that led to it:

    http://community.sigames.com/showthr...or-footedness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocuous View Post
    LOL, Ackter has been caught out as a cheat. A player's weaker foot will never deteriorate. Actker clearly changed his left foot to 1 to enhance the appearance of his other attributes.
    Open mouth. Insert foot.

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    Riccardo Cappelli is not a cheat in any shape or form. 100% genuine regen, I discovered him, nurtured him and am very proud of him.

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    Danny Roberts destroys this lot.

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    Best I have seen from FM10 just wish I had carried on the save and managed him for longer than a few months.

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    No good in the air then? ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCIAG View Post
    Danny Roberts destroys this lot.
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCIAG View Post
    Danny Roberts destroys this lot.
    Exactly this ^^.

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    Danny Roberts is an amateur compared to Tunicliffe - hit over 1,000 goals in under 700 appearances

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    Pft, cheat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    No, his footedness was edited as part of a test (the thread is on the forum somewhere, about the effect of having Either feet on a player's attributes and if it makes a difference to their performance) - his attributes pretty much all jumped by 1 or 2 points as soon as all the skill was taken from his left foot, and he ended up scoring about 20-30 more goals a season.
    Wait, so this hasn't been fixed in FM12?
    I remember in FM10 (I think), players with Either for footness had terrible attributes, no matter how high their CA was. Does this mean that Left/Right footed players are far better due to having more attribute points, or does increased footness dexterity have a positive influence in the ME, therefore kind of overrighting leveling to what they would be without. Kind of ruins it, if Left/Right only players dominate in the ME due to higher attribute points.

    I guess at the end of the day, it's how they perform in game and with the distribution of attributes in key areas.

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    I have one with better stats at Schalke in fm2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryknow View Post
    Wait, so this hasn't been fixed in FM12?
    I remember in FM10 (I think), players with Either for footness had terrible attributes, no matter how high their CA was. Does this mean that Left/Right footed players are far better due to having more attribute points, or does increased footness dexterity have a positive influence in the ME, therefore kind of overrighting leveling to what they would be without. Kind of ruins it, if Left/Right only players dominate in the ME due to higher attribute points.

    I guess at the end of the day, it's how they perform in game and with the distribution of attributes in key areas.
    Unfortunately there's nothing to fix as it's intended behaviour

    It kind of makes sense, in that an either-footed player will be more consistent throughout a match under more situations, but it also means that, for example, and either-footed player's perfect shot will never be as good as a one footed player's perfect shot.

    15 finishing and either feet gives him the chance of scoring more overall and makes him more likely to hit a perfect shot from more situations, while a one footer with 20 finishing will be able to shoot at his best less often, but his best will be a lot better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    Yes I did "cheat", I also "admitted" it here and, as stated further up, there was an entire thread dedicated to it while I was doing it.
    Sorry, missed the post where you said that. As for the whole 'two footed players are crap thing'. All I'll say is Toni Kroos on FM10. He's the best CM/AM in the game. Two footedness can be detrimental to certain players if it comes at too great a cost of other important attributes, however it can also be a massive bonus for other players. I also think two-footedness is great to have in a lone-striker who you can expect to have delivery from either side. How often do you see an only right footed striker receive a ball outside from your left winger and the striker tries a first time left foot shot which he spoons harmlessly wide?

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    Yoma has amazing stats but the fact he is poor in the air and pretty slow is a bit damaging.









    Fanchone is from 2012 and won the World Golden ball at 20, he is now 22 and still getting better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    Unfortunately there's nothing to fix as it's intended behaviour

    It kind of makes sense, in that an either-footed player will be more consistent throughout a match under more situations, but it also means that, for example, and either-footed player's perfect shot will never be as good as a one footed player's perfect shot.

    15 finishing and either feet gives him the chance of scoring more overall and makes him more likely to hit a perfect shot from more situations, while a one footer with 20 finishing will be able to shoot at his best less often, but his best will be a lot better.
    Ah k, thanks.
    At the end of the day if the player has the right attributes in the right areas and/or plays well, then I can cope.

    One such problem with this though is a position Either footness isn't needed. Having a goalkeeper with Either is hardly vital and that would eat up a chunk of CA that could be used in more important areas. My goalkeeper rarely touches the ball with his feet so if he makes 1-2 poor rushed clearances over a season, then I wouldn't mind as his vital goalkeeper attributes would better.

    You would think an AMC playmaker would benefit greatly from having Either footed. I haven't done any tests but Kagawa really is immense in AMC role being Either footed, immense enough to be different to a Right only player of similar attriburtes/PPMs? Hard to tell.

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    Not sure about the best FM regen ever but he's certainly had the best international record I've ever seen. 119 goals on 84 caps. Joint top-scorer and Golden Ball runner-up in the World Cup (which he won for France) then Best Player and top scorer in the following Euros.

    Definitely the best player I've ever managed (altho his Roma AMC partner Kévin Duval was brilliant too and eventually was the one of the pairing who grabbed the Ballon d'Or), utterly ridiculous at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    Danny Roberts is an amateur compared to Tunicliffe - hit over 1,000 goals in under 700 appearances
    Roberts hit them all in the Premiership though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    It kind of makes sense, in that an either-footed player will be more consistent throughout a match under more situations, but it also means that, for example, and either-footed player's perfect shot will never be as good as a one footed player's perfect shot.
    Not quite true, you're making the mistake people make all the time in these threads and looking at CA as determining attributes rather than vice versa, which is easy to do if you know how the game mechanics work and forget how the game relates to real life. Unfortunately Tunnicliffe would appear to indicate that either two-footedness is valued too highly or a strong "weak" foot doesn't have enough effect in the ME, depending on your perspective.

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    Ackter, i'm guessing it was mentioned in the older threads somewhere, but what kind of training did you give to Tunnicliffe? Do you do it in stages, IE higher physical training when he is younger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryknow View Post
    Ah k, thanks.
    At the end of the day if the player has the right attributes in the right areas and/or plays well, then I can cope.

    One such problem with this though is a position Either footness isn't needed. Having a goalkeeper with Either is hardly vital and that would eat up a chunk of CA that could be used in more important areas. My goalkeeper rarely touches the ball with his feet so if he makes 1-2 poor rushed clearances over a season, then I wouldn't mind as his vital goalkeeper attributes would better.

    You would think an AMC playmaker would benefit greatly from having Either footed. I haven't done any tests but Kagawa really is immense in AMC role being Either footed, immense enough to be different to a Right only player of similar attriburtes/PPMs? Hard to tell.
    I tried it with a keeper and there was virtually no change in attributes, so I can only guess that footedness has very little CA weighting for keepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCIAG View Post
    Roberts hit them all in the Premiership though.
    What, no Champions League? Tunnicliffe is definitely > Roberts then

    Not quite true, you're making the mistake people make all the time in these threads and looking at CA as determining attributes rather than vice versa, which is easy to do if you know how the game mechanics work and forget how the game relates to real life. Unfortunately Tunnicliffe would appear to indicate that either two-footedness is valued too highly or a strong "weak" foot doesn't have enough effect in the ME, depending on your perspective.
    I haven't made a mistake, what you quoted there is what is meant to be happening. My conclusions were that footedness is weighed too heavily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    What, no Champions League? Tunnicliffe is definitely > Roberts then
    His 1089 goals were in a mixture of competitions, but all of the league goals were in the Premiership.

    Probably the best thing about Danny Roberts was his 178 goals from 159 England caps, he was actually more prolific under the management of the AI!

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    All of Tunnicliffe's were in the Prem as well

    Can't find my pic of him from when he was 35, so this one'll have to do:


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    Found it


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    His England total is even better than Roberts', impressive stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    All of Tunnicliffe's were in the Prem as well
    My mistake, I thought Roberts scored 1000+ league goals.

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    Not sure that would even be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCIAG View Post
    My mistake, I thought Roberts scored 1000+ league goals.
    That would be impressive.

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    IIRC Hexamlad (?) got his player Simmons up to around 800 league goals.

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    This wasnt supposed to be a thread about CHEAT players.

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    It's true, dafuge is such a cheat.

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    tunnicliffe went up by 3 in bravery? seems a lot. but then i realise you say his stas improved with editing his footedness....

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    Quote Originally Posted by conshaldo_bonaldo View Post
    tunnicliffe went up by 3 in bravery? seems a lot. but then i realise you say his stas improved with editing his footedness....
    Yup, every attribute went up noticeably when his left foot ability was taken away. It made him all-round a much better player.

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    loving that his value went down so much in 4 years... nice

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    Im so jealous of the screenies in this thread, never had a player turn out half as good as any of these

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    once i start seeing these sort of players.. or even half the player some of these are.. its time to quit and start a new save for me...

    cant stand having a world full of superheroes as players...

    its my one gripe with the gamr frankly.... newgens are overpowering and dominant

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    Who is this Danny Roberts? Would someone please post a screenshot?Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlowsaint19 View Post
    Who is this Danny Roberts? Would someone please post a screenshot?Thanks
    2nd this, would love to see his stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManagerFootball View Post
    Cappelli is an absolute genius. Makes Messi seem average. Best young talent I ever found. Even at 18 he was a genius.





    Amazing. Too bad I will never find this exact guy ever again in future saves.
    Wrong messi makes him look avarage a player with his stats in real life would be say a nani type of player that level of ablity. not near messi

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    I had an Argentine Regen in FM11 who was labelled the next Diego Maradona and he was absolutely amazing like some of these guys, but I stopped playing the save about a year later... Wish i'd continued with it!

    I can't find his screenshot, but I have a video of one of his goals that I liked, although it's not the best ive seen by far. Will try find his screenshot!


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    Nobody beats this kid in my eyes. I knew as soon as he came through the youth system he would be epic. And he's still only 23. Won Europe's best player award last season and checked his PA which is 195.

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    Interesting like those kind of newgens (which I agree 100% ruin the game) have very poor jumping but maxed heading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    No, his footedness was edited as part of a test (the thread is on the forum somewhere, about the effect of having Either feet on a player's attributes and if it makes a difference to their performance) - his attributes pretty much all jumped by 1 or 2 points as soon as all the skill was taken from his left foot, and he ended up scoring about 20-30 more goals a season.
    Honestly in my logic he should have scored less, not more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackter View Post
    Nice player but just a wee bit unrealistic for me.

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    Not as good as other players in here but boy did I love this lad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Funk View Post
    Honestly in my logic he should have scored less, not more.
    Yeah I agree, being able to use bother feet should make him more effective, but the sheer difference in attributes clearly doesn't add up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicha_14 View Post
    Nice player but just a wee bit unrealistic for me.
    No, really?

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    In my save, not playing for me atm though, there's a player with CA 200, so technically he should be the "fm's best ever regen"

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    I thought I might share my find. I know I didn't produce him but I did track him since he started at Saprissa. Enjoy!




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    Quote Originally Posted by nick1408 View Post
    I thought I might share my find. I know I didn't produce him but I did track him since he started at Saprissa. Enjoy!



    This thread seems to be focused on strikers.
    Post yours here, http://community.sigames.com/showthr...y-Regen-Thread
    Not many people doing it this year. Refreshing to see someone post a goalkeeper. As my save is with Dortmund I would be interested in other newgens you have brought through, any good Germans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryknow View Post
    This thread seems to be focused on strikers.
    Post yours here, http://community.sigames.com/showthr...y-Regen-Thread
    Not many people doing it this year. Refreshing to see someone post a goalkeeper. As my save is with Dortmund I would be interested in other newgens you have brought through, any good Germans?
    Done in the other thread. Feel free to PM me if you want to chat about them.

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