Unveliavable result - Buzzing!

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

In my first season with Leeds just beaten Chelsea in the League Cup Final 7-0! Beat that

O and on the way beat Tottenham and Norwich by comfortable score lines and currently top of the league, screenshots to follow if it allows me.

[daylight]

Mah is no big deal to be honest.

I won the league cup with Nuneaton when in the Championship,I beat Man Utd at Old Trafford on the way to the final 3-4.

The reason it is no big deal is the bigger clubs all play their under 18 players with 1 or 2 reserve players,something SI should tune a bit for future releases.

Although grats on the 7-0 win!

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Don't forget it's in my very first season though, winning it on your 3rd/4th season is no big deal whoever you are.

[marty78]

Well done. I would like to see the line-ups if possible. Interested to see the Chelsea team. I have won the F A Cup with Leicester first season on FM12 but only played Man City of the top half prem teams and won 1-0 despite getting battered. That was also on release and it feels like they have been downgraded a touch with the last update. Don't think I could do it again.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

How do you attach screenshots onto here?

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Heres the lineup:


Leeds:

copa
nacho
bostwick (C) 1
toloi
bordachev
drahun 1
jali
bressan
a.diane
d.quintero scored hat-trick
l.griffiths 1

(sub - mouche) 1


Chelsea


turnbull
bosingwa
hutchinson
ake
bertrand
meireles
romeu
kalou
mellis
malouda
lukaku


Ok there central definsive pairing aint vidic and g.cahill but my team punnished them!

[marty78]

How do you attach screenshots onto here?

You need to use an image hosting site such as imageshack or photobucket. Instructions here:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post6507977

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

thank you marty. I don't have that will have to look into it.

[Rikulec]

On my save AI-controlled West Brom beat AI-controlled Chelsea 6:0, that was Carling Cup too.

[marty78]

That Chelsea line-up is a poor AI choice which is what daylight was suggesting. That doesn't diminish your achievement though as you can only beat what is in front of you. This was mentioned in another thread recently about an AI controlled league one side that won the cup because the bigger sides played mainly there under 21's. Even the biggest sides play full strength sides in cup finals IRL which is why it is a bit of an issue.

[marty78]

thank you marty. I don't have that will have to look into it.

Is simple and free. Will take 5 minutes to set up.

[wally13]

Heres the lineup:


Leeds:

copa
nacho
bostwick (C) 1
toloi
bordachev
drahun 1
jali
bressan
a.diane
d.quintero scored hat-trick
l.griffiths 1

(sub - mouche) 1


Chelsea


turnbull
bosingwa
hutchinson
ake
bertrand
meireles
romeu
kalou
mellis
malouda
lukaku


Ok there central definsive pairing aint vidic and g.cahill but my team punnished them!

Thats a bizzare team for your 1st season or am i missing something

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Thats a bizzare team for your 1st season or am i missing something

Yes I sold or loaned out (plus £) most of my squad, then bought all these players on the cheap Quintero at £2.5m being most expensive.

[wally13]

Yes I sold or loaned out (plus £) most of my squad, then bought all these players on the cheap Quintero at £2.5m being most expensive.

Hmm still find it odd there's not 1 of the current team there jali not cheap

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Hmm still find it odd there's not 1 of the current team there jali not cheap

Jali cost me 170k hardly expensive.

Other cheap deals.. diane free, mouch 140k, griffiths 625k, bordachev 400k, drahun 625k....

[Rikulec]

I find it hard to believe that you managed to sign Bressan with a Championship team.

[ilCuoreDiRoma]

i won the treble with a Serie B team in my first season (promotion, coppa italia, and won the 2012 Europa League final vs Arsenal). won the two super cups as well (vs Juve and Barcelona)

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Ok start a save with leeds, bid 1m and see if you can sign bressan??

The more you guys don't believe my feat the more I believe it's a remarkable effort

[Unknown Hacker]

Take a screenshot and upload it to imgur.com. You don't need to set up an account. That will solve all problems.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

O and I must admit football manger is much harder than 2011, I had to change my winning tactics from 2011 and the majority of my favourite players weren't available... verkhotsov/shitov/guarch.... And playing teams with depleted player condition no longer gives you such a great advantage.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Take a screenshot and upload it to imgur.com. You don't need to set up an account. That will solve all problems.

Ok give me a bit then. Il upload my transfer ins/out

[Unknown Hacker]

Ok give me a bit then. Il upload my transfer ins/out

And why not upload a screenshot of the result? It was after all why you started this thread...

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

And why not upload a screenshot of the result? It was after all why you started this thread...

Yes I was going to give me some time

[kccircle]

Why play as Leeds if in the first season you play none of their players?

[daylight]

Why play as Leeds if in the first season you play none of their players?

Indeed.

I have never understood taking over a higher league team and tearing it apart in the 1st season,I enjoy making my own team but I start at the bottom..the very bottom but even then it takes me about 2-3 seasons to change the entire team.
Also I find players that do tear their teams apart have spent more time in the good player guide on this forum than they did playing the game for the 1st week they had the game,take that Leeds side 3 or 4 of those players are mentioned often in the forums.

I guess people enjoy playing the game they way they enjoy playing the game,for me though I would rather find the players myself and play my own game

[Erimus1876]

Only in the world of FM is it easier to beat Chelsea in a cup final than it is to beat someone like Cardiff. When the cup draw is being made I always hope to get a high rep AI club because I know what sort of team they'll field against me. SI need to fix this for FM13 tbh. Well done on the 7-0 though.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

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[aderow]

Indeed.

I have never understood taking over a higher league team and tearing it apart in the 1st season,I enjoy making my own team but I start at the bottom..the very bottom but even then it takes me about 2-3 seasons to change the entire team.
Also I find players that do tear their teams apart have spent more time in the good player guide on this forum than they did playing the game for the 1st week they had the game,take that Leeds side 3 or 4 of those players are mentioned often in the forums.

I guess people enjoy playing the game they way they enjoy playing the game,for me though I would rather find the players myself and play my own game

Um because I like Man United too much to see them suffer at the hands of an AI manager. Just because you pick a top team doesn't you can't make a team your own. I care more about developing youngsters than first team players and I'll have success developing the world's best youngsters if I have a team with the finances to support a broad scouting network and top facilities.

But thats just me.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...435?tab=public

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Indeed.

I have never understood taking over a higher league team and tearing it apart in the 1st season,I enjoy making my own team but I start at the bottom..the very bottom but even then it takes me about 2-3 seasons to change the entire team.
Also I find players that do tear their teams apart have spent more time in the good player guide on this forum than they did playing the game for the 1st week they had the game,take that Leeds side 3 or 4 of those players are mentioned often in the forums.

I guess people enjoy playing the game they way they enjoy playing the game,for me though I would rather find the players myself and play my own game

So I have not done that have I?? Every player I've bough on FM or Chamionship manager have always been found/scouted by myself. I once heard about Cristaldo but refused to buy him as I heard about how great he is from people on a football manager forum.

Regarding keeping the same team, as a leeds fan the biggest thing i was looking forward to from football manager 2012 was selling all the rubbish dead beat players in the leeds squad, obviously in real life I would probably keep snoddy/lees/clayton but on here it makes more sense to sell them as I can then bring in better players and have a more sucessfull save.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

could someone please make those screenshots big on this tread please

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...00134211827218

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

lol its gone very quite, I bet ya all scrambling to get these diamonds I've found into ya teams

[wally13]

Ok start a save with leeds, bid 1m and see if you can sign bressan??

The more you guys don't believe my feat the more I believe it's a remarkable effort

Never said i did't believe you i said i just found it odd that there was't 1 player in your sqaud who's there a start of game

[hugo_rune]

That Chelsea line-up is a poor AI choice which is what daylight was suggesting. That doesn't diminish your achievement though as you can only beat what is in front of you. This was mentioned in another thread recently about an AI controlled league one side that won the cup because the bigger sides played mainly there under 21's. Even the biggest sides play full strength sides in cup finals IRL which is why it is a bit of an issue.

Rotation and prioritising fixtures is the sort of thing that must tie their programmers up in knots, to be fair. I hope they prioritise it on FM13 and find a much more realistic balance - where the AI clubs efficiently rotate and blood hot prospects throughout the season, and take league cups seriously in late stages, as occurs in real life. It'd make the world of difference.

[hugo_rune]

Only in the world of FM is it easier to beat Chelsea in a cup final than it is to beat someone like Cardiff. When the cup draw is being made I always hope to get a high rep AI club because I know what sort of team they'll field against me. SI need to fix this for FM13 tbh. Well done on the 7-0 though.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool have an easier time against Chelsea in the FA Cup than they did against Cardiff in the League Cup. Just saying :P It's not related to the point, of course, but I couldn't let it remain unsaid.

[wally13]

Im a leeds fan by the way , we could of done with that team today, roll on next season so warnock can get rid of half them dillydonks

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Ye can't wait for next season! clear out all the losers and hopefully build a good team

[Prodigy]

I had a similar piece of luck when I was managing QPR. Chelsea played that same young team with me too, only about 3-0 I think though.

[Niebiescy]

Loaning out players to other Championship clubs for £2.4m per season seems rather unrealistic even if it isn't technically cheating. No wonder you had so much cash.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Not really, I sold snodgrass for £2.5m, in real life I would have got about £6/7M, in real I could have got about £4m for mccormack, also I could have got good prices on lees and white, so the point your making is a bit ridiculous really

If the game would just let me sell them players for there 'real lifer values' rather than loan them out I would have done so, so swings and roundabouts come to mind. Also regarding 2.4m I got in loaning out that player they have a clause that allows them to buy that player for 100k at anytime, so if I sell mccormack for £2.5m altogether, whats unfair about that?

Hehe somepeople do get a little jelouse when one has great sucess

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

So altogether i've spent £12.5M on players, in real life If I sold snodgrass,mccormack,lees,clayton I would probably have probably got more than £12.5m.

Lets say anodgrass £6m, Clayton £2.5m, Lees £2m, White £2m, Mccormack £4m = £16.5m, see the point I'm trying to make If anything I'm less well off than I would be in real life

[daylight]

It is not a jealous thing at all to be honest,my Nuneaton save has far greater success.

I think the point people are making is no manager would go into Leeds and sell their best players in season 1 and bring in a full new team of players in real life(as you keep bringing up real life).

The point is a bit mute though as everyone plays the game the way they see fit.
The subject has gone a bit off topic but going back on topic winning the league cup is pretty easy in the game with the way the AI chooses the players too play.

7-0 is still a great result but winning the league cup is not "great" success.

[tomtuck01]

Hehe somepeople do get a little jelouse when one has great sucess

This just smacks of "Look at me! Look at me! I'm so good!".

We're not jealous, (see how it's actually spelt), it just initially looked a bit queer.

[Rooney_08]

wow ...im suprised you can win anything with a team such as leeds utd

[heathxxx]

My Altrincham side beat the mighty Halifax 9-0 away... beat that!

[Niebiescy]

Not really, I sold snodgrass for £2.5m, in real life I would have got about £6/7M, in real I could have got about £4m for mccormack, also I could have got good prices on lees and white, so the point your making is a bit ridiculous really

If the game would just let me sell them players for there 'real lifer values' rather than loan them out I would have done so, so swings and roundabouts come to mind. Also regarding 2.4m I got in loaning out that player they have a clause that allows them to buy that player for 100k at anytime, so if I sell mccormack for £2.5m altogether, whats unfair about that?

Hehe somepeople do get a little jelouse when one has great sucess

Really not jealous at all. I think knocking Fiorentina out of Europe and beating Valencia with my newly promoted Politehnica Timisoara side from Romania is a far greater achievement than winning the league cup with Leeds when the big sides have rested all of their best players.

My point still stands. In real life teams at that level do not pay out £2.4m to loan players who they could buy for £4m as you stated his value to be. Also think your value of £6/7m for Snodgrass is biased and out of touch with reality. You may get a few m but not 6/7m. All that those types of loan deals do is exploit a weakness in the game. I've seen clubs bid £5m to loan players before when they wouldn't pay £2.5m to buy them. Nopt sure what the developers can do about it as I'm not a programmer, but it's a clear flaw.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Really not jealous at all. I think knocking Fiorentina out of Europe and beating Valencia with my newly promoted Politehnica Timisoara side from Romania is a far greater achievement than winning the league cup with Leeds when the big sides have rested all of their best players.

My point still stands. In real life teams at that level do not pay out £2.4m to loan players who they could buy for £4m as you stated his value to be. Also think your value of £6/7m for Snodgrass is biased and out of touch with reality. You may get a few m but not 6/7m. All that those types of loan deals do is exploit a weakness in the game. I've seen clubs bid £5m to loan players before when they wouldn't pay £2.5m to buy them. Nopt sure what the developers can do about it as I'm not a programmer, but it's a clear flaw.

Whats great about that?


You obviously know little about the value of players at the moment, snodgrass was one of the best players in the championship this year and is easily worth that

[wattzy]

Erm, Niebiescy, why are you coming on to someone else's thread and gloating about your own success? The guy simply is proud of his achievement, so why can't you let him be? Yes the transfers may be a bit strange, but that is the way he has chosen to play his game and that is up to him, it doesn't have to be done in conjunction with real life.

Although I agree with the comments about Snodgrass. If he is worth 7 million then Vaz Te should have been bought for 12million! Snodgrass is worth no more than 2.5/3 million i'm afraid lad.

[Niebiescy]

Whats great about that?


You obviously know little about the value of players at the moment, snodgrass was one of the best players in the championship this year and is easily worth that

You think that beating Fiorentina and Valencia in a competition where you face their best 11 isn't an achievement when you are a newly promoted Romanian team who's average player value is 100k or less and where the squad's combined value is less than one of your star Leeds players?

Premiership clubs pay £6/7m for star players from relegated clubs who have proven themselves in the Premiership (and it's very rare they receive anywhere near that much), not for Championship players who haven't proved themselves at the higher level.

[Niebiescy]

Erm, Niebiescy, why are you coming on to someone else's thread and gloating about your own success? The guy simply is proud of his achievement, so why can't you let him be? Yes the transfers may be a bit strange, but that is the way he has chosen to play his game and that is up to him, it doesn't have to be done in conjunction with real life.

Although I agree with the comments about Snodgrass. If he is worth 7 million then Vaz Te should have been bought for 12million! Snodgrass is worth no more than 2.5/3 million i'm afraid lad.

I didn't come on here to gloat. He labelled me as jealous and I justified my reasons for definitely not being jealous. If I wanted to gloat I would write my own thread. I just feel that he has won by exploiting flaws in the in-game transfer system and wanted to say that.

[marty78]

Premiership clubs pay £6/7m for star players from relegated clubs who have proven themselves in the Premiership (and it's very rare they receive anywhere near that much), not for Championship players who haven't proved themselves at the higher level.

What like Shane Long, Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain, Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott and I'm sure there are others. I reckon it would take about £4-5m to get Snodgrass. The value of a player is always hard to judge though until they are actually sold.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Yes spot on. I'v beaten chelsea in a cup final with a championship side in my very first season 7-0, I haven't seen anyone else do that, that's why it's such a good achievement

So what he has beaten fiorentina/valencia, that counts for nothing if you've not won the trophy.. remember in real life when real madrid were beaten 3-0 by a non-league team, it does happen I bet the guys out there who reload matches would even struggle to beat this feat, O by which I beat Tottenham,villa and norwich, on the way, hardly an easy run!

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

You think that beating Fiorentina and Valencia in a competition where you face their best 11 isn't an achievement when you are a newly promoted Romanian team who's average player value is 100k or less and where the squad's combined value is less than one of your star Leeds players?

Premiership clubs pay £6/7m for star players from relegated clubs who have proven themselves in the Premiership (and it's very rare they receive anywhere near that much), not for Championship players who haven't proved themselves at the higher level.

Arsenal payed 15m for chamberlain before he had proved himself in the premier league, you don't know what your talking about.

Ok if I'm wrong I'm wrong by a measly £1m, snodgrass is definatly worth £5/6m and that is what he would go for, without question!

[Niebiescy]

Arsenal payed 15m for chamberlain before he had proved himself in the premier league, you don't know what your talking about.

Ok if I'm wrong I'm wrong by a measly £1m, snodgrass is definatly worth £5/6m and that is what he would go for, without question!

A 17 year old with huge potential is completely different to a player in his mid 20s. Teenagers will always be worth more because they have the potential to become world class rather than just an ok Premiership player which is what a 24 year old offers. That's why I wouldn't classify the Southampton products alongside normal players like Snodgrass.

[Lambo95]

As a Leeds season ticket holder, I don't think that Snodgrass is that exceptional. He's been awful since Warnock took over. He's worth much less than you say. I'd say £2.5m is much more realistic. I've started to think that he's just an average winger, that excelled under Grayson.

[marty78]

Shane long last summer, Steven Fletcher the year before and Roger Johnson the year before that. That is three transfers in three seasons worth more than £5m from champ to prem without including "potential star" young players. These players are not considerably better (if at all) than Snodgrass.

Source:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ch..._GB2_2008.html

Dave kitson, Kevin Doyle and a few others had prem experience with relegated teams so I have not listed them but they have large fees also.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Shane long last summer, Steven Fletcher the year before and Roger Johnson the year before that. That is three transfers in three seasons worth more than £5m from champ to prem without including "potential star" young players. These players are not considerably better (if at all) than Snodgrass.

Source:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ch..._GB2_2008.html

Dave kitson, Kevin Doyle and a few others had prem experience with relegated teams so I have not listed them but they have large fees also.

I've given up trying to explain mate, these people obviously know little about football. We could mention Matt mills to Leiceter (£5m) aswel

Snodgrass only worth £2.5m, your having a laugh lambo! He's carried leeds at times this season, but he can't do it all alone...

[daylight]

Shane long last summer, Steven Fletcher the year before and Roger Johnson the year before that. That is three transfers in three seasons worth more than £5m from champ to prem without including "potential star" young players. These players are not considerably better (if at all) than Snodgrass.

Source:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ch..._GB2_2008.html

Dave kitson, Kevin Doyle and a few others had prem experience with relegated teams so I have not listed them but they have large fees also.

Steven Fletcher played for Burnley in the Premiership before moving too Wolves after they were relegated,Shane Long was in the Premiership a few years back with Reading before they were relegated and Johnson played for Birmingham in the Premiership before the were relegated.

So every player you mentioned(including the ones you did not list)all had experience in the Premiership.

[Niebiescy]

Steven Fletcher played for Burnley in the Premiership before moving too Wolves after they were relegated,Shane Long was in the Premiership a few years back with Reading before they were relegated and Johnson played for Birmingham in the Premiership before the were relegated.

So every player you mentioned(including the ones you did not list)all had experience in the Premiership.

My point exactly. Clubs are buying proven Premiership players, not lads in their mid 20s who are unproven at that level. Players in their mid 20s in the Championship may be worth £3-4m, but nobody pays really big money for them.

[daylight]

If you look at Snodgrass what team in the Premiership would pay 7 million for him?

He is never going to be good enough for a top 6 or 7 team,out of the rest of the teams who spends 7 million on a player?Let alone a player that has not done it in the top league.
I reckon he could get in say the Bolton/Wigan/Villa sides but they would only pay around the 2.5 million for him,for 7 million they could improve their team with 2 or 3 players.

He is a good enough player but he is maybe in the right league to be fair.

[tomtuck01]

I've given up trying to explain mate, these people obviously know little about football. We could mention Matt mills to Leiceter (£5m) aswel

Snodgrass only worth £2.5m, your having a laugh lambo! He's carried leeds at times this season, but he can't do it all alone...

Your Leeds tinted glases are wonderful.

£4million for Snodgrass, be it in real life or in Football Manager, would be a great fee.

[Karnage94]

Your Leeds tinted glases are wonderful.

£4million for Snodgrass, be it in real life or in Football Manager, would be a great fee.

Especially considering Cabaye for Newcastle was under £5M and Real Madrid bought Nuri Sahin for around £6M. Personally I'd say Snodgrass is worth £2M at most.

[Chicha_14]

I had an unbelievable comeback last season on my Leverkusen save. Was 4-0 down away at Hoffenheim at HT so I decided to goal mentel on my team. Changed tactics to an very attacking style and the score ended up......

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Especially considering Cabaye for Newcastle was under £5M and Real Madrid bought Nuri Sahin for around £6M. Personally I'd say Snodgrass is worth £2M at most.

lol £2m at most?? It really is funny the lack of basic footballing knowledge that most people on the internet are missing. I'm almost wishing leeds sell snodgrass now just to prove you numpties wrong ..

SNODGRASS TO BUY WOULD COST £5/6M without question and he could prove to be a big hit in the premier league, how in gods earth do you guys know that he wouldn't??? He is tecnically gifted, has great composure, but unfortanatly is a bit slow. Alongside 2 or three others he has been one of the very top performers in the championship this season! At a paultry age of just 24 I think it is (fairly young), doing it at a big club like leeds/aswell as club captain his correct value is £5/6m... £2m in the words of alex ferguson would be a travesty and an absolute steal!

[marty78]

Steven Fletcher played for Burnley in the Premiership before moving too Wolves after they were relegated,Shane Long was in the Premiership a few years back with Reading before they were relegated and Johnson played for Birmingham in the Premiership before the were relegated.

So every player you mentioned(including the ones you did not list)all had experience in the Premiership.

Yes sorry I should of worded that differently as I was replying to a poster who said PROVEN players. I forgot about Fletcher at Burnley to be fair but Johnson initially signed for Birmingham from Cardiff before moving on to Wolves. Shane Long certainly wasn't proven as in 50 PL matches for Reading he managed 5 goals. Thats 1 in 10 and its not like he is a playmaker or target man either. The point is £5m for Snodgrass would be no stranger than the fees for the average players listed above (and many more) imo. If Newcastle can get £35m for Carroll the why is this so unbelievable?

I'm a leicester fan and we spent approx £3.5m on Matt Mills(not £5m unless we are promoted) so Snodgrass seems a snip.

Especially considering Cabaye for Newcastle was under £5M and Real Madrid bought Nuri Sahin for around £6M. Personally I'd say Snodgrass is worth £2M at most.

The thing about player values is they are set by what a selling team is prepared to sell for and what the buyers are prepared to buy for. I don't see why a prem team wouldn't pay £5m for Snodgrass if they rated him highly in the first place. After all Liverpool spent £55m on Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson so anything is possible.

[marty78]

Nice one Chica. 5 goals from 6 SOT is some strike rate buddy.

[tomtuck01]

Nice one Chica. 5 goals from 6 SOT is some strike rate buddy.

If the AI did that people would be howling about how the game is cheating.

[marty78]

Ha Ha indeed. One of the longest threads in GD is about that.

[Karnage94]

lol £2m at most?? It really is funny the lack of basic footballing knowledge that most people on the internet are missing. I'm almost wishing leeds sell snodgrass now just to prove you numpties wrong ..

SNODGRASS TO BUY WOULD COST £5/6M without question and he could prove to be a big hit in the premier league, how in gods earth do you guys know that he wouldn't??? He is tecnically gifted, has great composure, but unfortanatly is a bit slow. Alongside 2 or three others he has been one of the very top performers in the championship this season! At a paultry age of just 24 I think it is (fairly young), doing it at a big club like leeds/aswell as club captain his correct value is £5/6m... £2m in the words of alex ferguson would be a travesty and an absolute steal!

I'm not doubting that Leeds could weasel 5-6M out of a club for him, but at 24 surely somebody in the Premier League would have taken a punt on him by now if they thought he was good enough. What he is realistically worth and how much he would go for are 2 different things, like value of a player on FM and how much he would actually be sold for. But considering you're saying he could be good in the premier league and the two players that I mentioned both won a league title as key members of the team and you are valuing Snodgrass at the same price as both them players were sold then I don't think it's us who "lack basic footballing knowledge".

[dmacgreg37]

So annoying how EVERY thread where someone wants to point something out that they've done turns into a ******* contest. Good job Jed and hopefully you're off to a very enjoyable save...even if it doesn't live up to the way that you're SUPPOSED to play the game according to the forum snobs.

[tomtuck01]

So annoying how EVERY thread where someone wants to point something out that they've done turns into a ******* contest. Good job Joe and hopefully you're off to a very enjoyable save...even if it doesn't live up to the way that you're SUPPOSED to play the game according to the forums.

He's called Jed.

[dmacgreg37]

He's called Jed.

Haha, good catch. thanks.

[marty78]

So annoying how EVERY thread where someone wants to point something out that they've done turns into a ******* contest. Good job Jed and hopefully you're off to a very enjoyable save...even if it doesn't live up to the way that you're SUPPOSED to play the game according to the forum snobs.

I like these forums but yeah you can't win sometimes. Complain about something and everyone jumps on you but share a positive experience and, uh well, everyone jumps on you. I don't really care how much any of these players are worth and think it is almost impossible to put an accurate price on a player but I thought the op was a little hard done by with the criticisms. I'd of thought that if people didn't think an achievement was that great they would just post elsewhere. Obviously not.

[daylight]

Shane Long certainly wasn't proven as in 50 PL matches for Reading he managed 5 goals. Thats 1 in 10 and its not like he is a playmaker or target man either.

I actually thought Shane Long played very well for Reading in the Premiership.

He was very highly regarded even during their relegation season and many pundits said that even though Reading were going down Long would not be.

In all honesty if you put Rooney in that Wolves side just how well would he do?

You need a team around you.

Just to add everyone in football knows that Liverpool overpaid/bought badly,it is no secret.
Also those guys can and I think will prove people wrong,they are still young players but will push on(although still bought for too much),if you think a team in the Premiership would pay 5 million for Snodgrass then you are smoking too much of the namesake minus the "Snod".

He is never going to make a top 10 team and the rest find it hard to spend 5 million on what could be a real great player.

[tomtuck01]

I like these forums but yeah you can't win sometimes. Complain about something and everyone jumps on you but share a positive experience and, uh well, everyone jumps on you. I don't really care how much any of these players are worth and think it is almost impossible to put an accurate price on a player but I thought the op was a little hard done by with the criticisms. I'd of thought that if people didn't think an achievement was that great they would just post elsewhere. Obviously not.

I like sharing my achievements - check out the careers forum for my thread! [/shameless advertising]

However, threads like this that are basically just one big boast tend to cheese alot of poeple off, understandably.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Thank you dmac and marty.

Yes, it's funny how I get lynched when all I did was share an incredible result that I don't think anyone themselves have actually achieved in their first season with a championship club. Playing Chelsea In the final I was desperate to win, as like all of you it feels like **** to lose a cup final and to miss out on europe.. I would have taken a sneaky 1-0... but I absolutly trounced this side 7-0 and it could have been more!

I'm tempted now to set-up a competition with all these who critisize my achievments, to see who can do the best leeds save over the course of 3/5years! I will continue with this save or even start fresh just to prove a point.


And they go on about not playing the game fairly/realistically... I can only play the game that's put infront of me, I don't use any special tactics just my own in 'classic mode'.

[marty78]

if you think a team in the Premiership would pay 5 million for Snodgrass then you are smoking too much of the namesake minus the "Snod".

He is never going to make a top 10 team and the rest find it hard to spend 5 million on what could be a real great player.

Thats the thing though just because that would make him overpriced doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. £5m for him would be far from being the most outrageous transfer of recent years. A club like QPR for example could afford him in the summer if Hughes decided he was the right man. Don't get me wrong, I would be very disappointed if my club spent that much on him but you never know with football and thats why we all love it.

I like sharing my achievements - check out the careers forum for my thread! [/shameless advertising]

However, threads like this that are basically just one big boast tend to cheese alot of poeple off, understandably.

I might have a nosey. If a thread cheeses me off I click something else

[daylight]

No-one was lynching you.

People were pointing out how easy it was to win the League cup,some thought your team was a bit strange as you had changed the entire line up.
Honestly your save is not all that too be fair.

Many many players win the League cup with a Championship team in their 1st season,it is not all that special.

A 7-0 win is a great result regardless of the team so to do it too Chelsea would on paper be a fantastic result,although because of the AI problems in the League cup it is just as good as any other 7-0 win...a great result.
Also the the League cup has been underplayed by SI.

Also now you are challenging other players to beat your Leeds save is coming across very arrogant,trust me I have played the game for 15 years and although I am normally very successful I know I am well down the pecking order when it comes to tactics and success of other players.

[marty78]

I'm tempted now to set-up a competition with all these who critisize my achievments, to see who can do the best leeds save over the course of 3/5years! I will continue with this save or even start fresh just to prove a point.

I wouldn't worry about it mate. Consider posting in the leeds thread next time to save the hassle. I've never looked in the careers thread and had forgot it was even there to be honest but maybe you could post there if the Leeds thread is quiet. The Leicester one should have a picture of tumbleweed instead of a club badge.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Well I don't fecking believe it, just crashed on me half way through second season and this time for proper!

This is unacceptable, I go a season and a half then boom, lost everything. Thank god I'm getting a new Pc on thursday, hopefully a more powerful computer might stop this happening..

Funny though I had the same problem on 2011 and 2010 but each time the .3 patch always stopped it happening. Can't they just implement it in the 1st patch or something

[CWR15]

In my first season with Leeds just beaten Chelsea in the League Cup Final 7-0! Beat that

O and on the way beat Tottenham and Norwich by comfortable score lines and currently top of the league, screenshots to follow if it allows me.

I can indeed beat that! No one believes it, but it was a hotseat game, and my mate watched the drama unravel too, so at least one other person knows it is true! It was a few versions back now, and I was Arsenal. Semi Final of the Champions League and I was picked apart by Barca at home. I lost 7-0 and my Champions League dreams were over.

2nd Leg, Camp Nou, and fearing the worst when the Barca Keeper (Not Valdes, he was injured already) brings down Henry and and I get a pen, they go down to 10 men after 3 minuites or something. 0-1 (still 7-1 down) The Barca 3rd choice Keeper then gets injured and I go on to win 9-0 at the nou camp to move in to the Champions League final 9-7 on aggregate.

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

I can indeed beat that! No one believes it, but it was a hotseat game, and my mate watched the drama unravel too, so at least one other person knows it is true! It was a few versions back now, and I was Arsenal. Semi Final of the Champions League and I was picked apart by Barca at home. I lost 7-0 and my Champions League dreams were over.

2nd Leg, Camp Nou, and fearing the worst when the Barca Keeper (Not Valdes, he was injured already) brings down Henry and and I get a pen, they go down to 10 men after 3 minuites or something. 0-1 (still 7-1 down) The Barca 3rd choice Keeper then gets injured and I go on to win 9-0 at the nou camp to move in to the Champions League final 9-7 on aggregate.

That's a belter of a result mate But extreeeeeeeeeeemly lucky!!

O and when I'm about to play a huge match I always look to see if any of there key players are injured, especialy there goalkeepers. But rarely will you find a team about to play you who has a goalkeeping crisis..


And no it doesn't beat my score , mine was in a cup final with a lower league teame, the difference between my club and chelsea was far bigger than the difference between Arsenal and Baraca (not to mention the fact you had taken over arsenal they would have been probably far better than an AI arsenal)

[Robsy1990]

Impressive, but I still think my FA Cup win with a League Two side beats it

[tomtuck01]

Well I don't fecking believe it, just crashed on me half way through second season and this time for proper!

This is unacceptable, I go a season and a half then boom, lost everything. Thank god I'm getting a new Pc on thursday, hopefully a more powerful computer might stop this happening..

Funny though I had the same problem on 2011 and 2010 but each time the .3 patch always stopped it happening. Can't they just implement it in the 1st patch or something

Your fault. Back up your save in future.

[lufc_white]

In my first season with Leeds just beaten Chelsea in the League Cup Final 7-0! Beat that

O and on the way beat Tottenham and Norwich by comfortable score lines and currently top of the league, screenshots to follow if it allows me.

Mr Bates will not like that....

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Your fault. Back up your save in future.

I used to save the game like every 2 weeks icase of a crash, but what if the crash happens a week after saving, or a couple of games after.. For me I just couldn't carry on as everything will then be different to what actuall happened, the butterfly effect if you like. Is there a way to back up your save so if theres a crash it returns you to that exact point?

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

Impressive, but I still think my FA Cup win with a League Two side beats it

Did you win the league in that season two?

[Le Tissier's Nose]

In a bit of shock reading this thread this morning.....

It's a great result Jed, don't let the majority of FM snobs take the feeling away from you. You came to the right place to share your exploits and the very least you deserve is a 'well done'

Well done

[Le Tissier's Nose]

Your fault. Back up your save in future.

tomtuck01 - don't be so frickin' harsh!

Where'd all the good people go

[Jed_Leeds_ United_ Fan]

In a bit of shock reading this thread this morning.....

It's a great result Jed, don't let the majority of FM snobs take the feeling away from you. You came to the right place to share your exploits and the very least you deserve is a 'well done'

Well done

Cheers mate, it's funny how you here all these knocking it but have they ever won a cup final 7-0? I don't think so Nor have they done it with a lower league side in their first season

I think these people knocking it just don't like the fact that someones doing a little better than themselves, that's why they have to belittle it or make exuses for why it isn't quite that . But I didn't make this thread to advertise myself, only to share an incredible result that's all.

[Robsy1990]

Cheers mate, it's funny how you here all these knocking it but have they ever won a cup final 7-0? I don't think so Nor have they done it with a lower league side in their first season

I think these people knocking it just don't like the fact that someones doing a little better than themselves, that's why they have to belittle it or make exuses for why it isn't quite that . But I didn't make this thread to advertise myself, only to share an incredible result that's all.

Yeh good on you mate. It's a great result, and if you want to clear out the Leeds squad and get all new players that's your decision. People can play the game how they want. Beating a Top 4 side in the CC final with a 2nd tier club is impressive however you look at it, enjoy it and don't let the people knocking you get you down

And yes, I won the league the same season I won the FA Cup - Notts County ran me extremely close though!

[CityAndColour]

And no it doesn't beat my score , mine was in a cup final with a lower league teame, the difference between my club and chelsea was far bigger than the difference between Arsenal and Baraca (not to mention the fact you had taken over arsenal they would have been probably far better than an AI arsenal)

Cocky little ****, aren't you.

[tomtuck01]

tomtuck01 - don't be so frickin' harsh!

Where'd all the good people go

Harsh? Don't be so precious, I'm just been realistic.

Cheers mate, it's funny how you here all these knocking it but have they ever won a cup final 7-0? I don't think so Nor have they done it with a lower league side in their first season

I think these people knocking it just don't like the fact that someones doing a little better than themselves, that's why they have to belittle it or make exuses for why it isn't quite that . But I didn't make this thread to advertise myself, only to share an incredible result that's all.

You still don't get it do you? People are having a go because this thread is just about you having a boast, to claim it is anything else is utter nonsense. The smugness from you in this thread of yours is truly sickening, so it is no wonder people are queing up to have a pop at you.

You had an extremely good result, fair play. But if you can't understand why people initially questioned it, then you are seriously thick.

And yes, some of us are doing better than you actually.

[milnerpoint]

Brutal honesty from Tom, i like!

[Le Tissier's Nose]

Harsh? Don't be so precious, I'm just been realistic.

You still don't get it do you? People are having a go because this thread is just about you having a boast, to claim it is anything else is utter nonsense. The smugness from you in this thread of yours is truly sickening, so it is no wonder people are queing up to have a pop at you.

You had an extremely good result, fair play. But if you can't understand why people initially questioned it, then you are seriously thick.

And yes, some of us are doing better than you actually.

You can degrade the OP all you like, but the fact of the matter is simple - This lad beat Chelsea, as Leeds, in his first season, in a Cup final, by seven goals to nil. Pleasantly shocked at the result, he came onto the forum to share this with the FM community, because Joe Bloggs on his street isn't going to care - only FM'ers will care. Or apparently not.....

He wasn't looking for people to bow down to him - just to smile at another good-story thread, that's all! The first thing I do when I get something brilliant (or devastating) on FM is tell me girlfriend who's probably pottering about the house somewhere. 9 times out of 10 she'll feign interest and go back to what she was doing - so I'll post my story on here, in the FM community, because people can relate, and listen.

You can't take that away from anyone dude.

Ps. sorry for fighting your battle Jed i know you're more than capable but this sort of nonsense really winds me up

[FrazT]

This is going off track so keep to the point , without the personal comments.

[Weezer]

Looking at that transfers screenshot I'd suggest that you basically took over every Championship side and then loaned all your players for money, then presumably quit those teams. Getting close to £10 million in loan fees from 12 different Championship clubs doesn't look particularly realistic... You are also going to be in a lot of financial trouble when all those players come back from loan and you've got enough players to field 5 seperate teams.

[Kenco]

And no it doesn't beat my score , mine was in a cup final with a lower league teame, the difference between my club and chelsea was far bigger than the difference between Arsenal and Baraca (not to mention the fact you had taken over arsenal they would have been probably far better than an AI arsenal)

So if anyone claims to have a better result, you will just say yours is better? I don't think that's for you to decide.

If there was a vote, I'd go for the Arsenal's 9-0 win at the Nou Camp that CRW15 posted.

Your carling cup win was a great result, well done, but I've had plenty of results that I am more proud of, too many to post here. At the end of the day it's your game and you should be pleased, but don't expect everybody to bow down thinking you are an FM God.

[MartinGregory84]

I did not do too badly against Liverpool in the Fa Cup with my Non League no hopers....