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    Smallest Nations Clubs Enter English football!



    Way back on Football Manager 09 i ran this little experiment/bit of fun but i didn't leave too much time between starting it and FM10 coming out and well .. I feel like running it again but with plenty of time this time around.
    For those interested heres the original thread.

    What would happen if all the Tier 7 clubs were replaced with clubs from the Smallest Nations in the World?
    Would the Small Nations eventually dominate the World Scene if given top Youth and Training Facilitys?
    Could the Clubs eventually dominate English Football?

    ... Ever wondered about the above Questions? No!? Well of course you wouldn't .. who would .. Only me i guess!? ... anyway enough talking to myself and let me explain what i've done,

    ... All clubs in the Southern Premier, the Isthmian Premier and the Northern Premier Leagues have been replaced with Clubs from the Smallest Nations in the World.
    I decided to also add the 10 Poorest Nations, 10 Lowest by FIFA Ranking and 10 Lowest Population as well as 2 special entrants.
    All clubs were given Top Training and Youth Academy's and made sure they all had stadiums.
    I also gave all clubs a reputation boost as follows;

    Up to 500 = 1000
    501 - 750 = 1250
    751 - 1000 = 1500
    1001 - 1500 = 1650
    1501 - 1749 = 1750

    The Clubs:

    Code:
    Nation     | Division added into | Representing Club | Reputation
    
    Smallest by area (34);
    
    American Samoa - South - Utulei Youth - 1000
    Andorra - North - Santa Coloma - 1650
    Anguilla - North - Spartan International - 1000
    Antugua & Barbuda - North - SAP FC - 1650
    Aruba - South - SV Racing Club Aruba (RCA) - 1250
    Bahrain - South - Muharraq - 3500
    Barbados - South - Notre Dame - 1650
    British Virgin Islands - North - Rangers - 1000
    Cayman Islands - Isthm - Money Express - 1250
    Cook Islands - North - Nikao - 1000
    Cuba - South - Villa Clara - 1250
    Curacao - Isthm - Jong Holland - 1500
    Faroe Islands - Isthm - Havnar Bóltfelag - 2250
    Grenada - North - Paradise - 1250
    Guam - North - Cars Plus - 1000
    Maldives - Isthm - VB Sports - 1750
    Malta - North - Valletta - 2550
    Martinique - South - Club Franciscain - 2250
    Mayotte - North - FC Labattoir - 1250
    Montserrat - Isthm - Ideal (MSR) - 1000
    Northern Mariana Islands - South - Inter-Godfathers - 1000
    Puerto Rico - Isthm - Tornados de Humacao - 2250
    Saint Lucia - North - Vempers Sports Athletic Dramatic Club (VSADC) - 1650
    San Marino - North - Tre Fiori - 1500
    Seychelles - Isthm - St Louis Suns Utd - 1250
    Singapore - Isthm - Tampines - 2950
    Sint Maarten - South - Victory Boys - 1000
    St. Kitts and Nevis - North - Village Superstars - 1500
    St. Martin - Isthm - ASC St. Louis Stars - 1000
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines - South - System 3 - 1000
    Turks and Caicos Islands - South - KPMG Utd - 1000
    Tuvalu - South - Nauti - 1000
    Virgin Islands U.S - North - Positive Vibes - 1000
    Wallis and Futuna - Isthm - Forces Armées de Nouvelle-Calédonie (FANC) - 1000
    
    Poorest Nations by GDP (10);
    
    Cape Verde - Isthm - Sporting da Praia - 1650
    Comoros - Isthm - Djabal Club - 1650
    Dominica - South - Pantoja - 1250
    Guinea-Bissau - South - Os Balantas - 1650
    Liberia - North - Invincible Eleven - 1650
    Samoa - North - Kiwi - 1000
    Sao Tome and Principe - Isthm - Bairros Unidos FC - 1250
    Solomon Islands - South - Kossa FC - 1250
    Tonga - South - Lotoha'apai - 1000
    Vanuatu - South - Tafea - 1000
    
    Smallest Nations by Population (10);
    
    Bahamas - Isthm - Cavalier FC - 1000
    Belize - North - Kulture Yabra - 1650
    Bhutan - Isthm - Yeedzin - 1000
    Brunei - South - Angkatan Bersenjata Diraja Brunei (ABDB) - 1650
    Equatorial Guinea - North - Atlético Malabo - 1750
    Guyana - North - Western Tigers - 1500
    Iceland - South - Fimleikafélag Hafnarfjarðar - 4700
    Liechtenstein - Isthm - Vaduz - 5000
    Luxembourg - South - Avenir Beggen - 2000
    Surinam - Isthm - Robinhood - 1500
    
    Lowest by FIFA Ranking (left over after other lists filled) (10);
    
    Djibouti - North - Gendarmerie - 1000
    Eritrea - Isthm - Red Sea - 1500
    Kyrgyzstan - Isthm - Dordoy - 2000
    Macau (China PR) - North - Associação Desportiva Ka I - 1250
    Mauritania - Isthm - Concorde (MTN) - 1650
    Pakistan - North - Water and Power Development Authority (W.A.P.D.A.) - 1750
    Papua New Guinea - North - Hekari United - 1000
    Somalia - Isthm - Elman - 1650
    Sri Lanka - South - Sri Lanka Army Sports Club - 1650
    Tahiti - South - AS Dragon - 1650
    
    Honourable Inclusions (2);
    
    Cambodia - Was requested in the last version i ran - South - Phnom Penh Crown - 1750
    Bolivia - No CONMEBOL representatives - Isthm - Jorge Wilstermann - 4500

    Hopefully a few people will find this interesting and please feel free to support, hate or just feel nothing for the clubs that gain promotion into the English League.


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    INteresting idea

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    Sounds quite fascinating, keep us updated

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    great idea, will be following

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    The Data;

    I randomly decided which division to put the clubs into between the Northern, Southern and Isthmian.
    I have loaded all players from all 66 of the 'Small Nations' other than that only English leagues have been loaded on a Large database with 'Players added to Playable teams' 'Transfers in first Window' and 'Staff added to clubs' all ticked.
    All transfer budgets, finances and team status' (I.E Professional, Semi-Pro or Amatuer) are all left as is.
    Some clubs will be in Continental competitions the first season atleast, these include; FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein), Havnar Boltfelag (Faroe Islands), Valletta FC (Malta), FC Santa Coloma (Andorra), Tre Fiori (San Marino), and Fimleikafelag Hafnarfjaroar (Iceland).
    First update will be later tonight and will be a look at the first season, who won what and who becomes the first of the 'Small Nations Clubs' to make it into the playable leagues?


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    I'll keep checking in on this every so often, this looks very interesting. Nice idea!

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    A Nation by Nation look at the starting national pools;

    CA; (only included dual nationality players who have selected the nation/nation listed first).

    American Samoa

    60+ - 1
    50+ - 0
    40+ - 0
    30+ - 0
    20+ - 4


    Andorra

    100+ - 1
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 6
    70+ - 8
    60+ - 15


    Anguilla

    30+ - 1
    20+ - 5


    Antugua & Barbuda

    120+ - 1
    110+ - 0
    100+ - 1
    90+ - 5
    80+ - 14


    Aruba

    80+ - 3
    70+ - 6
    60+ - 9
    50+ - 16
    40+ - 12


    Bahamas

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 0
    60+ - 3
    50+ - 0
    40+ - 1


    Bahrain

    110+ - 7
    100+ - 7
    90+ - 27
    80+ - 68


    Barbados

    130+ - 1
    120+ - 0
    110+ - 1
    100+ - 0
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 0
    70+ - 0
    60+ - 4


    Belize

    120+ - 1
    110+ - 0
    100+ - 3
    90+ - 11
    80+ - 55


    Bhutan

    20+ - 3
    10+ - 17


    Bolivia

    130+ - 1
    120+ - 10
    110+ - 33
    100+ - 80


    British Virgin Islands

    0


    Brunei

    60+ - 3
    50+ - 8
    40+ - 4
    30+ - 15


    Cambodia

    70+ - 1
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 0
    40+ - 2
    30+ - 1


    Cape Verde

    130+ - 1
    120+ - 3
    110+ - 6
    100+ - 14
    90+ - 16

    Cayman Islands

    60+ - 1
    50+ - 1
    40+ - 0
    30+ - 2


    Comoros

    110+ - 2
    100+ - 4
    90+ - 3
    80+ - 2
    70+ - 8


    Cook Islands

    50+ - 1
    40+ - 1
    30+ - 5


    Cuba

    120+ - 1
    110+ - 0
    100+ - 0
    90+ - 8
    80+ - 21


    Curacao

    110+ - 3
    100+ - 6
    90+ - 10
    80+ - 6


    Djibouti

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 1
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 1
    40+ - 1


    Dominica

    50+ - 1
    40+ - 1
    30+ - 1
    20+ - 2


    Equatorial Guinea

    110+ - 3
    100+ - 7
    90+ - 6
    80+ - 4
    70+ - 14


    Eritrea

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 2
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 2
    40+ - 4


    Faroe Islands

    110+ - 1
    100+ - 0
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 3
    70+ - 5


    Grenada

    120+ - 2
    110+ - 0
    100+ - 0
    90+ - 0
    80+ - 1
    70+ - 3


    Guam

    10+ - 1


    Guinea-Bissau

    120+ - 2
    110+ - 4
    100+ - 3
    90+ - 10


    Guyana

    100+ - 1
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 10
    70+ - 14


    Iceland

    130+ - 3
    120+ - 9
    110+ - 12
    100+ - 22


    Kyrgyzstan

    90+ - 1
    80+ - 2
    70+ - 11
    60+ - 335


    Liberia

    130+ - 1
    120+ - 0
    110+ - 4
    100+ - 4
    90+ - 16


    Liechtenstein

    100+ - 2
    90+ - 5
    80+ - 5
    70+ - 4
    60+ - 11


    Luxembourg

    120+ - 1
    110+ - 0
    100+ - 3
    90+ - 10
    80+ - 26


    Macau (China PR)

    50+ - 1
    40+ - 1
    30+ - 6


    Maldives

    50+ - 1
    40+ - 4
    30+ - 47


    Malta

    100+ - 4
    90+ - 4
    80+ - 14
    70+ - 34


    Martinique

    70+ - 2
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 0
    40+ - 1


    Mauritania

    110+ - 1
    100+ - 0
    90+ - 4
    80+ - 5
    70+ - 5


    Mayotte

    0


    Montserrat

    90+ - 1
    80+ - 0
    70+ - 1
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 0
    40+ - 1


    Northern Mariana Islands

    Highest rated = 4


    Pakistan

    80+ - 2
    70+ - 2
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 3
    40+ - 6


    Papua New Guinea

    60+ - 3
    50+ - 1
    40+ - 1
    30+ - 22


    Puerto Rico

    110+ - 1
    100+ - 1
    90+ - 6
    80+ - 8
    70+ - 4


    Samoa

    60+ - 1
    50+ - 1
    40+ - 1
    30+ - 16


    San Marino

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 1
    60+ - 5
    50+ - 2
    40+ - 16


    Sao Tome and Principe

    100+ - 1
    90+ - 0
    80+ - 3
    70+ - 1
    60+ - 1
    50+ - 3


    Seychelles

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 0
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 4
    40+ - 2


    Singapore

    80+ - 4
    70+ - 15
    60+ - 35


    Sint Maarten

    0


    Solomon Islands

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 3
    60+ - 2
    50+ - 10
    40+ - 14


    Somalia

    100+ - 1
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 1
    70+ - 2
    60+ - 2


    Sri Lanka

    60+ - 1
    50+ - 3
    40+ - 10
    30+ - 67


    St. Kitts and Nevis

    100+ - 1
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 2
    70+ - 1
    60+ - 1
    50+ - 2


    St Lucia

    90+ - 1
    80+ - 2
    70+ - 0
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 3

    St. Martin

    0


    St. Vincent and the Grenadines

    90+ - 1
    80+ - 5
    70+ - 6
    60+ - 4


    Surinam

    110+ - 1
    100+ - 1
    90+ - 1
    80+ - 0
    70+ - 4


    Tahiti

    90+ - 1
    80+ - 0
    70+ - 1
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 3


    Tonga

    30+ - 22
    20+ - 43


    Turks and Caicos Islands

    80+ - 1
    70+ - 0
    60+ - 0
    50+ - 0
    40+ - 0
    30+ - 0
    20+ - 1


    Tuvalu

    0


    Vanuatu

    70+ - 1
    60+ - 1
    50+ - 1
    40+ - 10


    Virgin Islands U.S

    0


    Wallis and Futuna

    0


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    Season 2011/12;

    League Update;
    Small Nations Teams in Playable League's: 0

    Premiership;
    Winners: Chelsea.
    Champions League: Man City, Man Utd + Liverpool.
    Europa League: Blackpool (FA Cup Winners), Tottenham (5th in Premier League) + Newcastle (League Cup Winners).
    Relegated: Bolton, West Brom + Swansea.

    Championship;
    Winners: West Ham
    Promoted: Burnley + Blackpool.
    Relegated: Barnsley, Peterborough + Coventry.

    League 1;
    Winners: Sheffield Utd.
    Promoted: Charlton + Tranmere.
    Relegated: Leyton Orient, Notts Co, Walsall + Hartlepool.

    League 2;
    Winners: Northampton.
    Promoted: Rotherham, Plymouth + Gillingham.
    Relegated: Accrington + Macclesfield.

    Blue Square Premier;
    Winners: Gateshead.
    Promoted: Grimsby.
    Relegated: AFC Telford, Southport, Tamworth + Kettering.

    Blue Square North; Blue Square South;
    Winners: Stalybridge. Winners: Woking.
    Promoted: Altrincham. Promoted: Dartford.
    Relegated: Bishop's Stortford, Solihull Motors + Guiseley. Relegated: Eastborne Boro, Dorchester + Maidenhead.

    Promoted into Blue Square North/South: FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein), Jorge Wilstermann (Bolivia), FH (Iceland), Muharraq (Bahrain), Valletta (Malta) + Santa Coloma (Andorra).


    FA Cup;
    Winners: Blackpool.
    Beaten Finalists: Man Utd 2-2 (Blackpool won on Penalties).
    Small Nations Club of the Cup: Jorge Wilstermann got to FA Cup 4th rd losing to Middlebrough 2-1, after beating West Brom (3-1 in 3rd) Scunthorpe (3-0 in 2nd) and fellow Small Nations Club, Club Franciscain.

    League Cup;
    Winners: Newcastle.
    Beaten Finalists: Stoke 3-1.

    Community Shield: Man City.
    Johnstones Paint Trophy: Rochdale.
    FA Trophy: Luton.
    Beaten Finalists: Wrexham.
    Small Nations Club of the Cup: Army (Sri Lanka) lost in the 2nd rd to York (2-1), beat fellow Small Nations Clu Hekari Utd (2-0) in the 1st, beat Droylesden 2-1 in the Qualifying rd.

    Transfers (10 highest paid);
    Leighton Baines From Everton to Man City - £23m (June 2012)
    Dejan Lovren From Lyon to Man Utd - £22.5m (June 2012)
    Marek Hamsik From Napoli to Arsenal - £21.5M (January 2010)
    Domenico Criscito From Zenit to Man Utd - £21.5m (June 2012)
    Danny From Zenit to Man City - £18.75M (July 2011)
    Dede From Vasco to Tottenham - £17.25m (January 2012)
    Aiden McGready From Spartak Moscow to Tottenham - £17.25m (June 2012)
    Andre Ayew From Marseille to Arsenal - £15.75m (July 2011)
    Kwadwo Asamoah From Udinese to PSG - £15.75m (January 2012)
    Christian Fuchs From Schalke to Tottenham - £15.75m (June 2012)


    Coming Soon ... Full Team reports for 6 Promoted Small Nations Teams.

    .. Also if there is anything anyone would like to see or any suggestions please feel free to ask.


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    Good start so far, I'm finding this really interesting.

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