*Official* 12.2.2 Update Feedback Thread - Keep it all in here please

[Neil Brock]

Big problem.

It has really slowed my game, it takes me a long time to pass a week within the game despite a 5 star estimated speed. Anyone else noticed that and any solutions to make the game more faster. ( I already have min details and fastest processing of matches)

Do you have a very large number of players on your shortlist or perhaps on your national pool? Have you added any custom graphics/skins to your game?

[Neil Brock]

My game freezes up a lot after the new patch! Several times a week (in game) the game freezes and becomes unresponsive. This happened very rarely on any of the previous patches. Anyone else experienced this?

Similar to what I just posted - you running any custom skins/graphics etc? Have you tried verifying your game cache as shown here? - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7184719

[Barkermush]

Is anyone else have issues seeing match ratings now in windowed mode? It's only for attacking mids and strikers though it appears. It seems like the text boxes are smaller. (I did a search and didn't find anything)

I have this problem on my PC now. (not tried it on my widescreen laptop yet, still waiting for it to be fixed)

But before the patch I could see the player's current in-match rating underneath the shirts on my PC monitor, but since the patch I can't see any.
I assume it's got something to do with the width of the monitor? They must have reduced the space for the ratings now, so smaller monitors can't display them now.

[someone21]

Do you have a very large number of players on your shortlist or perhaps on your national pool? Have you added any custom graphics/skins to your game?

No, everything seems unchanged from the previous patch. The shortlist is normal size but all of the sudden, the speed is really slow.

[bigfoote]

All in all, so far, so good with this patch. One "minor" gripe. Started a fresh save file with Portsmouth in administration. two things:
1) Is starting to annoy me receiving agent offers for players when I'm still under a transfer embargo. I can't sign anybody, at any price, so why do I still get offers?
2) Every 4 weeks it seems, I'm getting the "restructuring debts" news, and even a new CVA. I understand FM levels out finances, but still...I need a tycoon quickly!

[Augustin1979]

Similar to what I just posted - you running any custom skins/graphics etc? Have you tried verifying your game cache as shown here? - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7184719

I have done the verify game cache three four times now, is this supposed to make steam perform a new download for FM after every time it finishes??
and it didn't help with my game freezing up almost every time i hit continue...

I don't use any custom skins, but do have player pictures, logos and kits..... Any suggestions?

[Neil Brock]

I have done the verify game cache three four times now, is this supposed to make steam perform a new download for FM after every time it finishes??
and it didn't help with my game freezing up almost every time i hit continue...

I don't use any custom skins, but do have player pictures, logos and kits..... Any suggestions?

It just re-checks and potentially downloads any missing files (along with some files which were already there).

[Neil Brock]

All in all, so far, so good with this patch. One "minor" gripe. Started a fresh save file with Portsmouth in administration. two things:
1) Is starting to annoy me receiving agent offers for players when I'm still under a transfer embargo. I can't sign anybody, at any price, so why do I still get offers?
2) Every 4 weeks it seems, I'm getting the "restructuring debts" news, and even a new CVA. I understand FM levels out finances, but still...I need a tycoon quickly!

Within the news item you can change it so you don't get offered any players for 'fee's' or any players at all.

[Gorando]

So again what's up with French teams having no money?

[Neil Brock]

So again what's up with French teams having no money?

What all French teams? Is it not that in real life the majority of French club spent their 'real life' budgets in August then January so don't actually have any further funds to spend? Really could do with more details on this one, thanks.

[Augustin1979]

It just re-checks and potentially downloads any missing files (along with some files which were already there).

Well for me the game is virtually unplayable because off all the "not responding"-freezes every time the game loads... Should teach me to not automatically keep the game up to date i guess??

[Drake44444]

delete mistake on my part

[Niebiescy]

I have just had a massive problem occur on my first game on the new patch. I have two players loaned out at other clubs who are underachieving or at least doing badly. I am playing as Wolfsburg and the players are Tuncay at Bolton and Ja-Cheol at Augsburg. They have just come to me complaining about the club underachieving. Before the patch came out they obviously would've gone to their current clubs rather than to me about this. I don't want relationships with my players or their future interest in them staying with me after loan periods to be destroyed due to this. Has anyone else reported this? Is it in the process of being fixed? Do you need screenshots? If you do need them how do I take them and post them on here?

[scott MUFC]

David de gea is traveling on the day of the community shield, he played IN the real community shield

[Niebiescy]

Also just had Diego come to me with the same complaint when he is on loan at Atletico Madrid and has nothing to do with my team currently

[looknohands]

Big issue for MLS:
Prior to the patch, the game would recognize when you no longer had any Designated Player slots available to offer players. Players/agents wouldn't ask for DP contracts if you weren't able to offer them one. Post-12.2, however, I've looked at two players on my team to enter contract negotiations with (to extend their current deals.) Despite already having 3 Designated Players on my squad, each player is asking for a DP contract (which I'm apparently able to offer- I'll do a quick test to see what happens.) One player is "waiting to see what I offer" and, when I select the first wage available to offer him, it reads -$83 per year. Yes, he'd be paying ME to play!

Update: received a news item stating that I couldn't renew the contract due to DP limits. Noticed a handful of players asking for DP contracts if I approach them to extend their contracts...and quite a few others that are suddenly asking for bonuses to be included in their contracts, which had never happened before the patch (now in 2018.)

Please, please let there be a way to remove this patch, or else my game is ruined!!!

[Niebiescy]

One more question I forgot earlier.... Have other players noticed their news feeds having insane amounts of useless information? It's almost like checking my old hotmail account when I saw spam everywhere. I would estimate that I received around 20-30 new messages each time I click "continue" and very few have anything to do with me. I've reduced the settings to the minimum possible including turning off international team news and any competition that I am not in but am still receiving crazy amounts.

[adamtheblade88]

might be against the mold here but can i ask for a non steam version to be available next year... ive had nothing but problems from this years version.. put aside the problems with the last patch but this patch i was playing offline, noticed the new patch.. quit game and went online... downloaded patch.. waited.. went offline.. couldnt start game.. restarted machine.. chose to go online.. started trying to download steam.. stopped right away.. said steam was unavailable, after restarting numerous times it then started the download for footy manager again.. so frustrating

im now downloading for the second time.. unknown to wether this one will work

wish we could register to validate our copy then download the patches individually... far less problems this way

[scott MUFC]

i hate that, transfer deadline day spam, where some team you have never heard of signs some player you have never heard of.

[Dinamo_K]

Hi
Don't know if this is right section to post, but...
Is it me or since 12.2 something happend with scouts reports??? I mean-there's none. Player appear to be scouted-but no report is present. Just blank page saying that "you need to ask your stuff to scout etc." ,wich has been done and stars are there! Bug? Or am i missing something?

Thanks for answer.

[Mike7077]

There is a space before the "M" in Melbourne Heart FC which means their name always appears shifted to the left one space. It's quite annoying once you see it. Easily sorted in the Editor. Sadly, I started my game before I knew of this.

[Niebiescy]

I am finding the whole patch to be weird tbh. I was just fired from Wolfsburg for being in mid table at the end of October with no warnings. We've played not even half a season and tbh the team usually finishes mid table IRL and the objective was only Europa League. We had a slow start losing 4 of the first 5 games (other game was a win) but since then have been awesome beating the likes of Werder and Hamburg and hadn't lost in ages. Then we slipped up vs Dortmund away only going down 1-0 (not bad considering how awesome their squad is on FM compared to mine) and was fired. This type of thing never used to happen before the update, especially considering I had my reputation as former German international, which always seems to guarentee time to turn things around if you have a bit of a slow start.

[makrimallis]

There's an issue with the Greek League and I believe Hungarian displaying foreign players incorrectly when loading an an old save in the latest code. Starting a new game with Bayern you'll be fine.

The issue is a big one since we (people that manage a Greek Superleague team) cannot continue a previously saved game, we have to start a new game! The problem is that the new patch doesn't treat EU nations as EU for the Greek Superleague. Does SI know something about EU kicking out Greece from EU?

Anyway, I personally don't want to just start a new game, and I am sure a lot of Greeks just want to continue playing their old saved games! Is there any possibility to have the option to move back to the 12.1.1 patch or re-release it? A lot of us we were happy with just that...

[Karna]

When I try to load up my 7 season save everything is fine but when I click "continue" it crashes ...I get the "serious problem" messege.

I have tried reinstalling the game and Verify Game Cache and it's still the same. I don't have any custom skins installed and I have not used fmrte.

I don't know if you will see this post ( ) but try to go on holiday for one day (to skip pressing continue by yourself) and than carry on with your save and see if it will happen again.

[ZaPPPa]

Scouting cost is completely out of wack in BSP england after the patch. I went from 25K per year to 135K per year without changing any scouting assignments from previous season. The patch got installed with 1/3 of the season to go and it is costing me 36K per month. It's my main expenditure right now.

Two scouts assigned to roam UK&Ireland with Maidenhead in BSP

[Twix407]

Have some problems I found in the k-league regarding transfers.
After looking at Jeju United they are still missing the Australian centerback Adrian Madaschi.
On a side note Junior Santos who was one of the top goal scorers on Jeju and in the k-league last season is still just as horrible as in fm 2011, I was hoping this would have been fixed in 2012 but just seems to be ignored....
Hoping some one can can at least take a look at this would make the game that much better!

[chewinggums]

i just left my game as i was about to shut down my computer and saw that there's a 974.8kb update. any idea what its about?

[FCA2010]

Big issue for MLS:
Prior to the patch, the game would recognize when you no longer had any Designated Player slots available to offer players. Players/agents wouldn't ask for DP contracts if you weren't able to offer them one. Post-12.2, however, I've looked at two players on my team to enter contract negotiations with (to extend their current deals.) Despite already having 3 Designated Players on my squad, each player is asking for a DP contract (which I'm apparently able to offer- I'll do a quick test to see what happens.) One player is "waiting to see what I offer" and, when I select the first wage available to offer him, it reads -$83 per year. Yes, he'd be paying ME to play!

Update: received a news item stating that I couldn't renew the contract due to DP limits. Noticed a handful of players asking for DP contracts if I approach them to extend their contracts...and quite a few others that are suddenly asking for bonuses to be included in their contracts, which had never happened before the patch (now in 2018.)

Please, please let there be a way to remove this patch, or else my game is ruined!!!

I highly second this post! This ruins any chance of playing the MLS.

[paulmotion]

I have this problem on my PC now. (not tried it on my widescreen laptop yet, still waiting for it to be fixed)

But before the patch I could see the player's current in-match rating underneath the shirts on my PC monitor, but since the patch I can't see any.
I assume it's got something to do with the width of the monitor? They must have reduced the space for the ratings now, so smaller monitors can't display them now.

I have this problem on the laptop too......is there anything we can do SI?

[thom]

So again what's up with French teams having no money?

Well, few French clubs have large transfer budgets to start with IRL.
I actually feel some tranfers are a little unrealistic after a couple of seasons, for example Lens spending 10 million euros on one player.

BTW, I've just been promoted with Tours to Ligue 1 in 2015 without buying a single player (only free transfers)!

[Pablo30]

new update has made match engine speed go really slow (even on highest speed). Any advice??

[TonyWy]

Good evening, everyone.

Are the reminders fixed? Can I use them now? I seems that in my old savegame it doesn't work.

Apparently not, I've just started a new game, and reminder dates disapear as soon as I save a note. I havn't advanced the game to one of the dates I entrered, so I may still get the reminder, but I'm not optimistic.

[sudanos]

Any update regarding the problem with the Greek League?

[Major Raver]

Right this really is silly.

Di Matteo sacked after 5 matches with Chelsea 15th.
Van Gaal takes over, 5 games later he is sacked with Chelsea now 10th.

Meanwhile over at the FA, and Pearce is sacked after 1 friendly against Holland and two qualifiers. Replaced by Villa Boas, who after drawing the first game is listed as very insecure!! But no he doesn't get the sack as he quits and replaces Van Gaal at Chelsea! New England Manager is now Roy Hodgson, sacked earlier by West Brom, replaced by a sacked Sam Allyadice at the Hawthornes, who is already listed as very insecure.

I am noticing that nearly all managers are insecure upon taking a new job.

What a surprise, any comments about the game AI, are ignored by SI Games! This is the area that needs improving, not the match engine. Unrealistic managers, managers not developing their squad, etc, is in mine and a lot of people's opinions on here, spoiling the game. Dave C, wrote a superb post on why LLM is badly neglected and ruined by the AI, but was ignored by SI. Stop buring your heads in the sand guys, these issues have been going on for years and the game wont advance until they are looked it! Really disappointed!

[jon157uk]

What exactly has this patch changed?....

Yes, I've read the 'change list' thing but to be honest, I've played for just over two hours under the new patch and apart from my BSN scout costing me 4 times what he used to cost me I can't see any difference what so ever (yet). The transfer market still sucks and no-one buys any players off you, I've just had 6 first team players go out for very long periods before the season even started, freekicks, throw-ins, crosses and control of the ball near the touchline are all still crap and fullbacks still wonder out of position........ Was it really worth the long wait?
Is there any way of going back to the previous patch? At least then I wont end up bankrupt through over paying for scouting.

[Babak G]

I assume there is no way to take the update without the patch right?

[Henry Charnock]

Hi Henry, thanks for the response! In other words the GA player himself isn't being included in the salary cap. However, now that he has returned from loan, they are pushing either an Academy Apprentice or Developmental player out of the 6 potential off-budget slots. This would certainly account for why the value increase is along the lines of the contract worth for those players. Surprisingly this part makes total sense to me as I follow MLS closely and, however crazy the rules are, they are starting to become second nature.

I'm still a bit confused as to why the GA player would not have been considered one of the 6 while out on loan since I loaned them to a feeder club (Montreal) and was therefore covering the salary 100%. Wouldn't this mean that the GA player had been one of the 6 the entire time?

Almost certainly that is what should have happened so this definitely sounds like an oversight. Thanks for the info, I'll see if we can get that fixed in the future.

[mustang76]

I can't open the editor any more it goes green on start up and you can see a picture of someone holding a ball in the background but its all grren like grass and I can't load any thing up this has happen since stream update today.

[Neil Brock]

I am finding the whole patch to be weird tbh. I was just fired from Wolfsburg for being in mid table at the end of October with no warnings. We've played not even half a season and tbh the team usually finishes mid table IRL and the objective was only Europa League. We had a slow start losing 4 of the first 5 games (other game was a win) but since then have been awesome beating the likes of Werder and Hamburg and hadn't lost in ages. Then we slipped up vs Dortmund away only going down 1-0 (not bad considering how awesome their squad is on FM compared to mine) and was fired. This type of thing never used to happen before the update, especially considering I had my reputation as former German international, which always seems to guarentee time to turn things around if you have a bit of a slow start.

Do you have a save game before you were fired? If so I'd suggest creating a thread in the bugs forum and uploading the save game to the FTP so we can take a look. Bugs forum here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdi...012-Bugs-Forum

FTP details here - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...P-Instructions

Thanks.

[Neil Brock]

new update has made match engine speed go really slow (even on highest speed). Any advice??

Try verifying your game cache - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7184719

Also make sure you're not running any custom graphics/skins to make certain it's not those causing it. Then make sure you're running the latest graphics card drivers for your graphics card. Let me know if any of this helps.

[Neil Brock]

Any update regarding the problem with the Greek League?

We're very much still looking into it.

[Bootador]

might be against the mold here but can i ask for a non steam version to be available next year... ive had nothing but problems from this years version.. put aside the problems with the last patch but this patch i was playing offline, noticed the new patch.. quit game and went online... downloaded patch.. waited.. went offline.. couldnt start game.. restarted machine.. chose to go online.. started trying to download steam.. stopped right away.. said steam was unavailable, after restarting numerous times it then started the download for footy manager again.. so frustrating

im now downloading for the second time.. unknown to wether this one will work

wish we could register to validate our copy then download the patches individually... far less problems this way

Check your "league" subscriptions, I've found if, for example, you start as a premier league club you are automatically subscribed to every top division in a league you have loaded.

[jon157uk]

What a surprise, any comments about the game AI, are ignored by SI Games! This is the area that needs improving, not the match engine. Unrealistic managers, managers not developing their squad, etc, is in mine and a lot of people's opinions on here, spoiling the game. Dave C, wrote a superb post on why LLM is badly neglected and ruined by the AI, but was ignored by SI. Stop buring your heads in the sand guys, these issues have been going on for years and the game wont advance until they are looked it! Really disappointed!

Totally agree with you! ......and you've been ignored again....hahaha!
This patch has not fixed any of the most important failings at all, all it's done is update the data and fixed a few of the issuses that don't even come in to play in my save.

[wally13]

Totally agree with you! ......and you've been ignored again....hahaha!
This patch has not fixed any of the most important failings at all, all it's done is update the data and fixed a few of the issuses that don't even come in to play in my save.

Guys this will take more then just a patch to get right, and no im not defending SI as i agree with you but these sort of fixes will require new code etc which im sure we'll see in fm13 etc

[Super Mattio]

I have downloaded the patch, but things like flags, player images, the kits on the tactics page and even players that don't have pictures the grey silhouette aren't appearing.
Any help would be grateful!

[Neil Brock]

I have downloaded the patch, but things like flags, player images, the kits on the tactics page and even players that don't have pictures the grey silhouette aren't appearing.
Any help would be grateful!

Verify your game cache as shown here - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7184719

Then make sure that when the game loads up, in your in-game preferences that 'use skin cache' is ticked under display and sounds.

[Koki]

There is a space before the "M" in Melbourne Heart FC which means their name always appears shifted to the left one space. It's quite annoying once you see it. Easily sorted in the Editor. Sadly, I started my game before I knew of this.

You can change club names with *.lnc-files. Afaik it should work with already started savegames. I don't know the details but simply do a search on the internet

[Major Raver]

Guys this will take more then just a patch to get right, and no im not defending SI as i agree with you but these sort of fixes will require new code etc which im sure we'll see in fm13 etc

It's been 5 year's with no acknowledgement or changes, and the new features and moral tweaks just seem to make it worse! For me buying FM12 has been a complete waste of money as its totally unrealistic. I've gone back to CM01/02 with an up to date database, as it is more fun to play and more realistic as well. I've bought every game in the series, going back 20 years, and I buy FM13 as well, but if they start pod casting in September over a new interface and better press conferences and ignore the AI again, it will be my last.

I expected to be ignored, or get a patronizing request to upload a save game they won't look at! Last 5 years have made me cynical, like posting two years ago about Man Utd picking a reserve team to play in the champions league semi, and still doing it now! AI managers are shot to bits.

[jon157uk]

Guys this will take more then just a patch to get right, and no im not defending SI as i agree with you but these sort of fixes will require new code etc which im sure we'll see in fm13 etc

I'm not going to start shouting the odds or arguing with anyone but we've been hearing that since about FM 2009 wally, it's always going to be fixed in the next game !

[wally13]

Like i say i do agree with you guys its no secret the AI needs a massive revamp we'll just have to see what fm13 brings, but if im honest i dont think its something SI ignore

[milnerpoint]

No acknowledgement or changes in the last 5 years? Have you guys been in a coma or something? When you say things like that it instantly gives the impression your just throwing the toys out the pram. There have been big changes in the last 5 years in the ME and the entire game and SI have acknowledged on several occasions that the ME has certain weaknesses, which is why they are replacing it. If your not aware of that despite being a member on here for 9 years then you will never notice when they make an announcement on it.

I can bet almost 100% you guys will buy next years version no matter what you say in this thread.

[Dinamo_K]

So-nobody have problem with scout reports? Is it bug or not?
Some suggestions? Please?

[Major Raver]

Wally, I know what your saying, Jon is right though, we do hear "being looked at for the next version" every year, and new game arrives and its still a complete pickle (sound like me sadly departed Grandma, lol). All the moral tweeks just make the problem worse. Game code on New patch seems to making no allowance for a new appointment, so new manager takes over and straight away you get rubbish news reports he is on the verge of the sack, at a club expected to struggle. Forget PA/CA changes for players, as unless you sign them, they spend there career roting in the reserves, Jack Wilshire for last 3 FM's for example, whilst the AI continues to play 38 Rosicky!

[Major Raver]

Milnerpoint, we are raising a valid point that you can't be bothered to read! We know the ME is changed every year, we aren't arguing that, we are talking about the AI of the Managers and clubs. No chucking toys out, so before flaming, read what has been written please!

[brawler]

So-nobody have problem with scout reports? Is it bug or not?
Some suggestions? Please?

What is the problem with scout reports?

[edgar555]

I'm not going to start shouting the odds or arguing with anyone but we've been hearing that since about FM 2009 wally, it's always going to be fixed in the next game !

Milnerpoint, we are raising a valid point that you can't be bothered to read! We know the ME is changed every year, we aren't arguing that, we are talking about the AI of the Managers and clubs. No chucking toys out, so before flaming, read what has been written please!

Both of you make extremely valid points, but as wally said I really don't think that this thread is the best place to get these concerns aired. They were never gonna be fixed in a patch. It's a whole new bunch of code needed. With the talk of a new ME for 13, it would be nice to think that SI will also be taking a long hard look at the AI management and actually fix it. I'd say that the best bet was to open a new thread on this subject (not that there haven't been many before, but one more can't hurt) You'll certainly have my backing. We don't need any more cosmetic/UI changes, we need the game to be more challenging/realistic in the way AI managers work.
Yeah Milner, read

[Major Raver]

Edgar, it ended up in here as the sackings and insecure status of new manager's seems to be worse since the patch was released. Like I said above, that Milnerpoint also missed, I will be buying FM13 in the hope it has been given a massive overhaul, but if it hasn't it will be my last FM game.

[edgar555]

Edgar, it ended up in here as the sackings and insecure status of new manager's seems to be worse since the patch was released. Like I said above, that Milnerpoint also missed, I will be buying FM13 in the hope it has been given a massive overhaul, but if it hasn't it will be my last FM game.

Fair point mate. I haven't got far enough since the patch to see this happen yet, but will certainly keep an eye out for trigger happy chairman. Perhaps they've all been imbued with the personality of Flavio Briatore?

[Neil Brock]

Edgar, it ended up in here as the sackings and insecure status of new manager's seems to be worse since the patch was released. Like I said above, that Milnerpoint also missed, I will be buying FM13 in the hope it has been given a massive overhaul, but if it hasn't it will be my last FM game.

We'll look into the insecure issue, thanks for taking the time to bring it up.

[Major Raver]

We'll look into the insecure issue, thanks for taking the time to bring it up.

LOL, no problems.

[ringwoodrob]

Just downloaded the patch,no problems at all,but checking out my favorite club AFC Bournemouth,no Russian bussinessman even as a director,Maxim Demin,oh well will have to get the info and put him in myself and change captain to the right one

[Major Raver]

We'll look into the insecure issue, thanks for taking the time to bring it up.

Fair point mate. I haven't got far enough since the patch to see this happen yet, but will certainly keep an eye out for trigger happy chairman. Perhaps they've all been imbued with the personality of Flavio Briatore?

He was even more trigger happy as a Formula One boss.

[Ipswich Staying Up]

I'm Having a few issues since the patch...

Firstly I'm finding the game hangs alot when coming out of processing to the news screen. I have a very high spec machine not lacking in CPU, graphics or RAM and the game ran all leagues like a dream before the patch.

The second issue i'm having is some weird player happiness issues. Take the below example:

Sunday he loves the club, Tuesday he wants out!





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[Neil Brock]

I'm Having a few issues since the patch...

Firstly I'm finding the game hangs alot when coming out of processing to the news screen. I have a very high spec machine not lacking in CPU, graphics or RAM and the game ran all leagues like a dream before the patch.

The second issue i'm having is some weird player happiness issues. Take the below example:

Sunday he loves the club, Tuesday he wants out!


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Try removing custom graphics and see if it speeds up. As for that issue, it's just the way it's phrased but yeah can understand why it looks a little odd.

[Gorando]

What all French teams? Is it not that in real life the majority of French club spent their 'real life' budgets in August then January so don't actually have any further funds to spend? Really could do with more details on this one, thanks.

I opened the editor and most teams have 1 euro on their balance

[Dinamo_K]

I don't get none. Player appeared to be scouted but no scout report is there. It ether saying it's in process of scouting and shortly will be presented or that i need to send somebody to scout (and i've already done it and player got his stars-but no report is there..) ?!

[Eddmundo]

We only added real life rules I'm afraid.

I'm sorry, but it is ridiculous that the real life rule changes would have an effect on saves that were started earlier. My whole team was based on naturalised Russians, because the rules at the time made it possible (given that at the time I started that save, there was still no real life decision to change the foreigner rules yet either), so the sudden change overnight effectively destroyed that entire save. The changes in rules should only have an effect on new saves, that is the only way it would make any sense.

[Caius Joaquinum]

I´m planning to start a very long term game. But I´m wondering if I should wait for a hotfix or not... What do you think?

[Graham FM]

I have this problem on my PC now. (not tried it on my widescreen laptop yet, still waiting for it to be fixed)

But before the patch I could see the player's current in-match rating underneath the shirts on my PC monitor, but since the patch I can't see any.
I assume it's got something to do with the width of the monitor? They must have reduced the space for the ratings now, so smaller monitors can't display them now.

i too cant see the ratings of my RW and LW players and i not playing in windowed mode either

[Matzo2]

I have the same problem with scouting as Dinamo_K - no reports are visible, it just says that I need to request a member of scouting staff to compile a report, even though I just scouted the player and he has the recommended stars next to his name. That's the case for any player in the game no matter what country/league/club they're from (coach reports are working for my players) - I'm playing ManU, first season with over 40 leagues playable.

[wildhagen]

Is anyone else have issues seeing match ratings now in windowed mode? It's only for attacking mids and strikers though it appears. It seems like the text boxes are smaller. (I did a search and didn't find anything)

Yes, I've the same issue as you. Only in Windowed mode, and only for midfielders and attackers.

[adamtheblade88]

i see what people mean about injurys too.. after starting a new game i have played 3 matches.. and had 4 injurys.. the opposition has had the same amount too... way to frequent imo

[wally13]

i see what people mean about injurys too.. after starting a new game i have played 3 matches.. and had 4 injurys.. the opposition has had the same amount too... way to frequent imo

Not that i dont believe you but there's been no changes to the game that would increase injuries so it must be bad luck

[Neil Brock]

i see what people mean about injurys too.. after starting a new game i have played 3 matches.. and had 4 injurys.. the opposition has had the same amount too... way to frequent imo

Yeah absolutely no changes in the injury code, as has been said, just coincidence/bad luck.

[wally13]

i see what people mean about injurys too.. after starting a new game i have played 3 matches.. and had 4 injurys.. the opposition has had the same amount too... way to frequent imo

I think the problem fm as is injuries seem to come in waves instead of been varied maybe and to people it looks like a bug, but if you take injuries over a full season you'll probably see its very similar to real life

[Sunderland AFC]

Try verifying your game cache - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7184719

Also make sure you're not running any custom graphics/skins to make certain it's not those causing it. Then make sure you're running the latest graphics card drivers for your graphics card. Let me know if any of this helps.

Mine seems to have slowed down like, only custom graphics I had is premiership kits and logos, plus international logos. Problem isn't cause by this is it?

[Neil Brock]

Mine seems to have slowed down like, only custom graphics I had is premiership kits and logos, plus international logos. Problem isn't cause by this is it?

It could be yeah, try removing them and see if it makes a difference.

[wally13]

Mine seems to have slowed down like, only custom graphics I had is premiership kits and logos, plus international logos. Problem isn't cause by this is it?

You might want to clear your actual fm cache as well mate the link Neil as shown you there is the actual steam fm cache the one im talking about can be found in
local disk/user/your name or what ever the user name is under/app data/roaming/sportsinteractive/fm12/ then delete the cache folder in there

[bullybeef]

I only downloaded FM2012 yesterday via Steam with the new patch. I played the demo and I noticed plenty of bugs which is why I waited.


But I have notice something and I know it didn't occur in FM2011, but it has been picked up on this thread: http://community.sigames.com/showthr...-player-search

As you can see, I explained the problem I had with this 'player search' issue and I do hope it is a bug and something that can be remedied. To save ppl having to open the posted link, this is what I explained. If anyone can explain this, thanks in advance:


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I (first) noticed this issue on my first search for a player: I couldn't remember how to spell his name but I obviously I knew his position (right back), and I knew he was French and under 21, so I naturally performed the search with these criteria added and only around 20 French under 21 right backs were shown, none of which were the player in question. On various incarnations of FM I would see thousands of players under this criteria. So where was this player, whom I easily located and bought on FM2011, disappeared to?


I eventually managed to spell his name correctly and performed a search in the text box at the top right of the FM2012 screen, and there he was. So how can a player exist only if you know his name?


I have been reading the thread to attempt to understand whether this is something that has been purposely implemented in FM2012, or whether it is a flaw. If the reason is because of player knowledge levels, this still doesn't make any sense when I have a French scout with 100% knowledge of French players.


And if I perform a search for Brazilian right backs, for example, I got a list of over hundred, yet I have no scout with knowledge of Brazilian players.


When I chose my league selections at the beginning of the game, I always choose a huge database with many global leagues giving me a maximum limit of 75,000 players. Yet if I perform a generic player search without any criteria, it lists around 25,000 player. Where are the other 50,000 players that should be on my database??


I always rated the players search, and transfer scouting system of FM as it's best feature. I could spend hours manually sifting through players looking for the next big unknown star. Yet now, that part of the game has been taken away in FM2012.


I do hope this is just a error that can hopeful be repaired/patched, because it surely has diminished my enjoyment before I have even kicked a ball?

[jascko]

Both of you make extremely valid points, but as wally said I really don't think that this thread is the best place to get these concerns aired. They were never gonna be fixed in a patch. It's a whole new bunch of code needed.

That is not totally true. Many of the problems in this game doesnt require changes in ME, or take time to fix. Exempel: We all know that AI has a big issue using 4-2-3-1 formation which human managers easy can exploit since this formation creates large room between midfield and defence. This problem is easy to solve, and without changing the ME. Forum member “The hand of God” has come with a easy fix in relation to this problem. You can read about it in this thread:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...-fix-is-needed!

The conlusion: SI crew are eather incompetent (since regulary member solve the problem easily) or lazy (dont bother).

[wally13]

gent-fix-is-needed!

The conlusion: SI crew are eather incompetent (since regulary member solve the problem easily) or lazy (dont bother).

Yes you've hit nail on the head why did't we think of this are you listening Brock

[milnerpoint]

He must be too busy counting his mountain of gold......

[Pablo30]

Try verifying your game cache - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7184719

Also make sure you're not running any custom graphics/skins to make certain it's not those causing it. Then make sure you're running the latest graphics card drivers for your graphics card. Let me know if any of this helps.

Thanks the verifying game cache seemed to work

[Barside]

@ bullybeef

The player search functions is merely an overview of the players your scouting network are aware of & that is why you are not seeing every single player, the key phrase that you'll see on the player search page is 'x players found in your scouting and knowledge range'.

IIRC it's more or less followed the current model since FM09 & has over time been refined to be linked more tightly with your scouting tools, just send folk out to scour the globe & watch the player count rise.

[SCFC-Anthony]

I've just downloaded the patch and everything seemed to work out well 'til I noticed that the "watch" in the left hand corner had disappeared. Have anyone else got this problem? Please, anyone, help me out because I am suicidal at the bloody moment!

[thedoe]

I have had 2 issues with allocation money not being received in the MLS since the patch. The first happened when I won the league and was supposed to be awarded $150,000 for qualifying for the NACL. As you can see below this somehow brought my total allocation up to $0. That just doesn't add up. The second issue was after selling a player. Although I supposedly received an allocation amount of $230,000 for the transfer my allocation totals stayed at their current value. While neither of these are massive values they are certainly significant for the MLS and I'm now afraid to sell any other players.

I have screenshots of each however they only show what I explained. Let me know if there is something else that I can provide to help.

[themadsheep2001]

That is not totally true. Many of the problems in this game doesnt require changes in ME, or take time to fix. Exempel: We all know that AI has a big issue using 4-2-3-1 formation which human managers easy can exploit since this formation creates large room between midfield and defence. This problem is easy to solve, and without changing the ME. Forum member “The hand of God” has come with a easy fix in relation to this problem. You can read about it in this thread:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...-fix-is-needed!

The conlusion: SI crew are eather incompetent (since regulary member solve the problem easily) or lazy (dont bother).

Well done on missing the point of the thread, its still only a temporary solution (albeit a good one) , as it doesn't fix the lack of tracking back from the AM bands for the AI, or the lack of balance in the MCs, both of which can only be fixed via the ME being overhauled.

[Dinamo_K]

So-maybe somebody from SI team will be kind enough to treat problem with no players reports available???!!! It's really annoying not to be able to use this important (in my view) feature.

[adamtheblade88]

Not that i dont believe you but there's been no changes to the game that would increase injuries so it must be bad luck

i dont have a reason to make it up and it wont stop me playing the game just really frustrating...

my first game both my strikers got injured (beattie & evans)

evans out for 4-5 weeks

second game hoskins (in for evans) gets injured out for 2-3 weeks

3rd game Baxter (in for hoskins) injured

[ShirazS]

Is anyone else have issues seeing match ratings now in windowed mode? It's only for attacking mids and strikers though it appears. It seems like the text boxes are smaller. (I did a search and didn't find anything)

I am also having this exact problem on my PC. I play in windowed mode as well and it was fine before the patch.

Anyone found a fix for it yet?

[Barside]

So-maybe somebody from SI team will be kind enough to treat problem with no players reports available???!!! It's really annoying not to be able to use this important (in my view) feature.

You might want to have a look in the UI bugs forum, this problem might already be mentioned, if it isn't then start a thread & upload your save fie for the guys at SI to have a look at.

Are you using a third party skin? If you are then it might not be compatible with 12.2.

I'm not seeing the issue you've described while using the default dark skin.

[Henry Charnock]

I have had 2 issues with allocation money not being received in the MLS since the patch. The first happened when I won the league and was supposed to be awarded $150,000 for qualifying for the NACL. As you can see below this somehow brought my total allocation up to $0. That just doesn't add up. The second issue was after selling a player. Although I supposedly received an allocation amount of $230,000 for the transfer my allocation totals stayed at their current value. While neither of these are massive values they are certainly significant for the MLS and I'm now afraid to sell any other players.

I have screenshots of each however they only show what I explained. Let me know if there is something else that I can provide to help.

Did you allocation fund definitely not go up at all, or was it just that the news item said your fund increased to $0?

If not, is there any chance you have a save game from before either of these events occur?

Edit: Actually, (it didn't sound like it, but) are you managing one of the Canadian teams by any chance? If you were, this would explain why you didn't get any allocation funds for winning MLS Cup.

[brawler]

Just started a new game on the new patch, everything seems to be running ok. The only gripe i have is if a new patch or a hot fix is brought out in the next few days going off the problems people are having i will no longer have the german national side (real players) and will have to start the whole game again and delete the inc files... would i be right in saying this??

[GungHo]

It seems like Steam wont download the new patch. It says “Download starting…” but nothing happens. It has been that way since yesterday. When I try to run FM2012 I get the message “The Steam servers are currently too busy to handle your request. Please try again in a few minutes”.

Any ideas what’s wrong. Really frustrating, and have never had this problem before…

[Koki]

Just started a new game on the new patch, everything seems to be running ok. The only gripe i have is if a new patch or a hot fix is brought out in the next few days going off the problems people are having i will no longer have the german national side (real players) and will have to start the whole game again and delete the inc files... would i be right in saying this??

Afaik, the lnc files can be added to an already started game. They might take some time to take effect but it should work.

[thedoe]

Did you allocation fund definitely not go up at all, or was it just that the news item said your fund increased to $0?

If not, is there any chance you have a save game from before either of these events occur?

Hi Henry, thanks once again for the response. The allocation fund definitely did not go up for either one. After the first event I was a bit confused so I paid close attention to the sale and checked my allocation funds every day for 3 days before and after the sale with no change. The sale was to an external (Mexican) club by the way, not another MLS club. My thought after the first one was that since I had qualified for the NACL by winning the Open Cup perhaps I was not receiving this allocation money properly. That did not fully make sense however since I had not received any allocation money at the time of the Open Cup win.

I have saved games before both events. The first event (winning the league and qualifying for NACL) has a save game just before the championship match and so will require winning the match. The other save game is about 15 days before the transfer goes through however the league is in offseason at this point so not much happens between. Where and how would you like me to upload these save games?

EDIT: Nope, not playing as a Canadian team. I'm playing as the Red Bulls. I just had a coach headhunted away with better wage promises and, according to the alert, should have had 2/3 of that fee go towards allocation as well. Once again, though, the allocation budget stayed steady at 350,000 (where it has been since the season ended).

[jascko]

Yes you've hit nail on the head why did't we think of this are you listening Brock

He must be too busy counting his mountain of gold......

Fanboys will allways use sarcasm when they dont have any rational arguments left.

Well done on missing the point of the thread, its still only a temporary solution (albeit a good one) , as it doesn't fix the lack of tracking back from the AM bands for the AI, or the lack of balance in the MCs, both of which can only be fixed via the ME being overhauled.

I did not miss anything. I m fully aware the magnitude of the problem, but this is the fix which SI could easy implement while they are making new ME. This fix is better then the situation as it is right now. The fact that AM doesnt track back has been well knowed for 4-5 years. Humane managers can solve this with specific man marking, while the AI cant. So the biggest problem is for AI, which this fix solve with easy. They could do many things to fix this problem without cheanging the ME, but they didnt...and that is the fact.

[bullybeef]

@ bullybeef

The player search functions is merely an overview of the players your scouting network are aware of & that is why you are not seeing every single player, the key phrase that you'll see on the player search page is 'x players found in your scouting and knowledge range'.

IIRC it's more or less followed the current model since FM09 & has over time been refined to be linked more tightly with your scouting tools, just send folk out to scour the globe & watch the player count rise.

Thanks Barside, I appreciate the reply. I am curious that I didn't seem to notice this in either FM09 or FM11 (didn't play 2010). Obviously I thought it was typically ironic that out of all the players I search for and that my Scouts were aware of, the first player I searched for (like I said, a French under 21 international) wasn't displayed even though I had a French scout with 100% scouting knowledge of French players. Yet I had a wide knowledge of Brazilian players yet I have no Brazilian scout.


Like I said, on FM2011 I used to sift through thousands of under 18 players in various positions yet I am lucky if I see over a 20 youngsters to scout in a specific position now. It does seem this feature has diminished the ability to discover a raw, unknown talent.


I currently managing Liverpool, and I couldn't imagine the current LFC manager asking his scouts for a list of French right backs and him only receiving a list of 20 odd players to scout. In comparison to FM2011, it seems this has noticeably and significantly changed.

[ReggaeBwoy]

I am a fan of the game but there should be a hotfix tbh. Apart from the bugs mentioned in this thread researchers from the Arsenal and Chelsea data have accepted they made vital errors. With Arsenal the injury to Thomas Vermaelen should not have been included as he was fit at the start of season which was acknowledged and also a mistake from one of the Chelsea researchers who wrongly set a retirement for Sam Hutchinson and therefore forgot to remove this from the game and he is not included unfortunately.

[themadsheep2001]

Fanboys will allways use sarcasm when they dont have any rational arguments left.




I did not miss anything. I m fully aware the magnitude of the problem, but this is the fix which SI could easy implement while they are making new ME. This fix is better then the situation as it is right now. The fact that AM doesnt track back has been well knowed for 4-5 years now. Humane managers can solve this with specific man marking, while the AI cant. So the biggest problem is for AI, which this fix solve it with easy. They could do many things to fix this problem without cheanging the ME, but they didnt...and that is the fact.

It still doesnt change the underlying issue, which is in the ME. It still doesnt fix the inherent issue with the formation, its just a good workaround for now. But to use this point to come your original point that many of the problems don't require a new ME is ridiculous, since most of the issues that have been brought up time and again(team defending, bugged throw ins, lack of team pressure etc), cannot be fixed with mere tweaks. So calling them incompetent/lazy is well wide of the mark, and honestly quite silly.