You're the one talking about counter attacking. i'm just saying I don't set attacking tactics.
How exactly do you set your team up, what roles and duties are your players given, especially centre halves, full backs and central mids?
So you dont watch football then, if you did, you would know what your saying is complete rubbish, and more importantly you would know that having more of the ball doesnt mean you have dominated the game, or have been the better team. Infact without goals it means nothing.
Last edited by milnerpoint; 28-02-2012 at 14:41.
If Man U lost 50-0 they'd still have more of the ball than Fulham?
Yeah, you don't watch football.
What was your previous name on this forum btw?
This is turning into one of the funniest threads I have read in along time. Feed the troll, he certainly seems to be winding up enough people.
I am sure he is doing this deliberately as no one not even himself can believe what he is saying lol.
Ackter and milnerpoint I think you are both doing a grand job in the face of adversity, you have my support
Most of the big upsets happen at around the 50/50 possession mark, though it usually tips 49% to the weaker side.
Not sure the Chelsea v Man Utd match will prove much though, they're both quite equal.
Why you posting results? Swansea 3 Arsenal 2? Good performance by Swansea but if you watched the full 90 minutes Arsenal would of had more of the ball
In the context of this season tho you could say they are a stronger team. But your right it is probably the worst example of the 3.
On the reverse side, Man City are the experts at absolutely dominating then messing up. It doesn't happen often, but when it does it's all over the place with them. They've had near 60% possession against some teams and still got done over.
Ahah, that's fantastic.
That accounts for the entire match. For every section where Arsenal have 60% possession, Swansea must have had the equivalent of an equal spell at 60% possession in order for it to end up at 50%.
Ackter, i think we are both being had here mate, i refuse to believe anything he/she is saying is anything more than trolling us, if its real im giving up on humanity.
I'm bored at work and this is fun. I'm here till 5:30...
This thread is strangely entertaining.
Of course thats how FIFA does it, must be the way the real world works.
I dont think you understand how that stat is calculated, before it could be 50/50 both teams must have had the ball for an equal amount of time, throughout the whole game. No periods of anything, the whole entire match from the first whistle to the last.
My earlier statement about you being short of the full picnic was quite clearly wrong, you're actually missing the full picnic & have no idea where the outdoor feast is taking place.
Let's not get personal with the comments.
Sorry, should have added a or a .
Your completely mental
Also, the Champions league is a little bit different
For example, a team can dominate for the majority of the match and then change their mentality allowing the other team to catch up on the possession stats
Last edited by mumble jumbo; 28-02-2012 at 16:05.
Any more excuses?
I'd like to get them all together so I don't have to keep coming back to them.
Sigh, are we really going to have to spoon feed you on this.
Arsenal cannot have had more possession, the stats were 50/50 for the entire game, come on mate this isnt hard to grasp, it really isnt. Arsenal did NOT have more of the ball in that game, even if it goes against what you claim, they still didnt have the ball for more than half the game.
Your right champions league follows different possession rules clearly Man U had the ball more than Ajax, just the stats tell us the exact opposite.
If a team dominated possession for the majority of the match, I'm assuming that you mean they had 60% possession for at least 60% of the match?
Anyways you're becoming tiresome and you're only here for the wind up. No doubt this thread will be closed soon now as its morealess run it's course.
I think mumble jumbo should stop embarrassing himself, or trolling, whichever he is doing.
Usually I like to be more constructive than that, but in this instance there is no point.
Ok..... And a team can't have the overall edge and then allow the other team to bring it back?If possession was 50/50 then both teams would have had an equal amount of time spent on the ball during the 90 minutes.
Last edited by mumble jumbo; 28-02-2012 at 17:28.
Ok, so a team dominates possession for the majority of a match. I'm using 60% possession and 70 minutes here (both figures you've mentioned already iirc).
So Arsenal have 60% possession for 70 minutes. That leaves Swansea needing around 80%+ possession for the final 20 minutes in order for the full time stats to end at 50/50.
Though that does raise the question, why exactly did Arsenal allow Swansea 20 minutes of possession when they were losing?
No one on here said that at all, of course possession fluctuates in a game, thats bloody obvious.
Oh, and to clarify further, here's the scoring times for the match:
05:00 - Arsenal
16:00 - Swansea
57:00 - Swansea
69:00 - Arsenal
70:00 - Swansea
At which point in that match do you reckon Arsenal decided they'd done enough and it was time to let Swansea have the ball?
You're taking everything I say out of context
I'm not necessary talking about a constant flow of higher ball posession. I'm just saying the much better team has more of the ball for longer periods of the match, and that may even out by fulltime
Take the Arsenal example I've just posted above and use it to explain what you mean.
Not to make it even more obvious, but Swansea completed almost 100 passes more than Arsenal during that game. Arsenal had something like 60-70% possession in the last 10 minutes too, otherwise the possession would've been more in Swansea's favour than level. Nice of Swansea to let the inferior team level out the statistics at the end of the match.
It's actually quite a good match for FM comparisons, as Swansea only managed 4 shots in the whole match while Arsenal had 18. Just shows the massive difference between attacking tactics where your team rushes your shots and fails to score effectively, while the other waits for an opening and strikes when they find one.
Oi, stop telling him the next card in my hand before he's revealed his
You weren't really expecting a more detailed answer than you've already had, were you?
This isn't what happened. To quote yourself "watch the match".
Ok, either start making your points properly (ie actually discuss the issue and back up your points and claims, not give vague non-answers) or please just stop posting about it.
I've been quite patient up 'til now to allow you the chance to explain yourself and your points properly, but as you keep refusing to do so I can only take it as trolling.
I've watched plenty of football over the years
I've seen plenty of games where teams edge on posession for most of the match and then other team pulls that back, has more of the ball, late on into the game to bring that back by the end of the game
The point is, the much better teams will always see more of the ball
Last edited by mumble jumbo; 28-02-2012 at 18:27.
Enough is enough.