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    This thread will go into great detail about a number of spoilerific things, including player naming and hidden stats. If that kind of thing is a problem for you I suggest you turn back now.



    The Aim

    Having just upgraded my computer quite considerably, I plan to run a test game with all the top leagues in Europe loaded to a) test my computer's performance over a long term and b) observe the effect of DLR on the game world when there's no human influence.

    The Details

    I'll be running the following set-up, with a large database, England 2011 start date and everything else on it's default settings.



    I'm not sure how some of those extra levels slipped through, as I only intended England, Spain, Italy and Germany to have a second tier, but I doubt it will affect the experiment too much.

    In terms of edits, I've fixed the Germany issue, added Nik33's data packs (just the ones that don't alter attributes or anything) and added my own lnc file to fix the names of the "big 3" in Portugal.

    The Format

    After an initial write-up detailing the situation in the game world, write-ups will be made at September 1st, February 1st and June 1st. I intend to go incredibly in-depth writing this up with a detailed breakdown of the situation in each Nation for every update along with a whole host of other details on the world as well. I don't know exactly what will be in every update, as I may find different things worth highlighting each and every time, but if there's anything you think you'd like to be updated on feel free to say as much.

    I can't promise regular updates - probably more likely to come in fits and starts - but I will definitely do my best, and it will probably take some time to actually get going as I want to cover a lot of ground before I even holiday a day in the game.
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    This post will contain a quick reference of the content of each update, and a link to the first post for that update period.


    September 2011 - Ganso and Maicon to Man City
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    Austria - Initial report



    Austria have never really been a force in football - only having qualified for the World Cup on 6 occasions, although once finishing in 3rd place. Their World Ranking of 68th reflects this, but also hints that they canít necessarily be ruled out of getting great upsets as they have previously peaked at 17th back in 1999.

    The largest club are probably Red Bull Salzburg, who have finished either first or second in every season since their foundation, although by the in-game reputation Rapid Wien are actually ranked slightly higher. Austria Wien and Sturm Graz are also both well known names around Europe, but the rest of the teams in the league are mostly unknown outside of Austria without delving back a large number of years.

    Looking at the financials, there doesnít appear to be all that much money in Austria, with the aforementioned 4 clubs dominating the majority of the total capital.

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    Player spotlight: David Alaba, FC Bayern



    18 year-old Alaba looks to have a great future ahead of him. Already capped 10 times, the central midfielder is currently playing at one of the biggest clubs in Europe and, assuming he can cement a first team place and develop well, could well be one of Austria's greatest ever players.

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    Belarus - Initial report



    Belarus are a relatively young nation, having only gained their Independence in 1991, and as such do not have a huge amount of history to dwell on. They are currently ranked 41st and at the start of the game are 2nd place in their Euro Championship Qualifying group.

    They only really have one club that holds any weight across Europe, BATE, who are way ahead of the rest of the clubs financially and by reputation. They have also won the league every season since the 2006 season.

    At game start the league is already 8 games deep with BATE holding a 2 point lead and sporting only a single loss.

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    Player spotlight: Aliaksandr Hleb, Barcelona (on loan at Wolfsburg)



    Hleb should be a pretty well-known name across most of Europe, having enjoyed spells at Stuttgart, Arsenal and Barcelona. At 30 years old the versatile attacking midfielder is certainly looking to be beyond his peak, but there should still be a number of good years in him yet. Being out for the first 3-5 months of the game, however, means he may drop off much quicker than he would like.

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    Interesting! Can't wait for more.

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    Belgium - Initial report



    Belgium have long been a nation on the very edge of success, but thus far their only honours have been a second and a third at European Championships and a single Olympics win. They currently have a very exciting crop of young players coming through who could definitely make them a force to watch in the future.

    There are a number of clubs that will be familiar to anyone with a decent level of European knowledge, including KAA Gent, Genk, Club Brugge and Anderlecht. By far and away the biggest side though, at least financially if not by reputation, is Standard, thanks to their purchase in 2011. The league has actually been pretty even up until this point, and it will be interesting to see if this new money has a significant effect on things.

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    Player spotlight: Dedryck Boyata, Man City (on loan at Bolton)



    Not necessarily the first name that will come to peopleís minds when you mention top Belgian prospects, Boyata does in fact have the potential to be a great player. Assuming he actually gets the game-time to develop, that is. It is unclear whether the extreme competition for places at Man City will help or hinder him, but getting loan spells at clubs of Boltonís stature definitely bodes well for him.

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    Good work so far Biscotti, nice lay out. Where did you get your facepack from?

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    I'm loving this experiment already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by letissierandhenryaregreat View Post
    I'm loving this experiment already!
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    Ditto....looks interesting!

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    I honestly have no idea, as it's one I've been using for a few years now.
    edit:- I've just had a look in my graphics folders, and it appears to be the panini pack.

    Glad to see some positive feedback. It's going to take me quite a while to get all these initial summaries done before I can start holidaying properly, but hopefully I can knock out quite a large chunk of them today.
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    Bulgaria - Initial report



    Bulgaria were once considered to be a fairly strong European nation, but in more recent years they have gone a little off the boil. There is a distinct lack of promising youngsters coming through, leaving their aging stars with nobody to carry on their legacy.

    In terms of clubs, the big name in Bulgaria would have to be Litex, who have won the league for the past 2 seasons. While tey may be ahead in both value and reputation, their lead isn’t so great and both Levski and CSKA (Sofia) are also pretty well known clubs across Europe.

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    Player spotlight: Nikolay Mihaylov, FC Twente



    Mihaylov is probably the brightest of Bulgaria’s talent, but his PA is still somewhat low all things considered. If he’s able to reach his full potential he will certainly be a solid enough player, but it also wouldn’t take all that much for him to be surpassed in just a few years.
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    Croatia - Initial report



    Croatia enjoy a growing reputation within the footballing world, they were members of the former Yugoslavia until 1991 and have since developed to the point of being a formidable team. They have only missed one World Cup and one European Championships since their independence from Yugoslavia, and even managed to take 3rd place at the 1998 World Cup.

    One club stands clearly head and shoulders above the rest in Croatia, with Dinamo being valued at double their nearest rivals Hajduk and a fairly sizable reputation lead as well. The last time Dinamo didn't win the league was the 2005 season.

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    Player spotlight: Ivan Rakitic, Sevilla



    Not necessarily the biggest name on the Croatian team sheet, Rakitic has had a decent career so far, having come through the ranks at Basel before moving on to Schalke 04 and now Sevilla. He still has quite a bit of room to grow, and could quite likely establish himself as a top European player within a few more years.

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    Czech Republic - Initial report



    The Czech Republic are, much like Croatia, a well respected team within European football who have yet to have any major success. Ranked at 42 in the world, they have certainly enjoyed better years, but with most of their stars not over the hill yet there is still plenty of room for them to be propelled up the rankings once more.

    Sparta Prague are the only really big name in Czech football, having only twice not finished either first or second in the leagueís history, and as a result they enjoy a huge financial and reputational lead over the rest of the country.

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    Player spotlight: Milan Baros, Galatasaray



    A familiar name to many, Baros has enjoyed spells at Liverpool, Aston Villa, Lyon, Portsmouth and now Galatasaray throughout his career. He holds a Champions League winners medal, along with English FA Cup, English League Cup and French Ligue 1 winners medals. Probably too old to see much improvement from now, he is still a solid enough player and could well be instrumental in engineering some success for his national team.

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    I've always wondered what happens when all the top leagues are loaded; looking forward to seeing how this goes


    p.s. these write-ups must take a lot of time! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrros View Post
    I've always wondered what happens when all the top leagues are loaded; looking forward to seeing how this goes


    p.s. these write-ups must take a lot of time! :P
    Not so bad after I'd done the first one as I've now got myself a template, but it's certainly not a quick copy/paste either

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    Denmark - Initial report



    Denmark are possibly one of the most under-estimated nations in Europe with a pretty solid squad across the board, albeit lacking in any particularly star players. Ranked at 21st in the world they are definitely in a position to pull off some great results, but after a few seasons will there be enough good youngsters to replace their older players?

    Both BrÝndby and FC KÝbenhavn should be fairly familiar names, but also worth noting are the team of FC Midtjylland, who have had some financial investment in recent years and while they may not have the reputation it would still be foolish to discount them. KÝbenhavn have definitely been the more successful team in recent years and will be looking to continue with that, Iím sure.

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    Player spotlight: Thomas SÝrensen, Stoke



    It seems to me like SÝrensen has been around forever, having been a solid Ďkeeper in the Premiership for well over 10 years now. He may not be on the same level as Schmeichel was before him, but has been able to maintain a consistent level of performance high enough to earn him many admirers. Both Anders Lindegaard and Kasper Schmeichel have the potential to be at least as good as him, but whether they'll reach that remains to be seen.

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    England - Initial report



    And so we reach the first of our ‘major’ nations.

    England have essentially always been considered one of the best footballing nations in the world - be this due to the ridiculous level of over-hype provided by the media or a genuine belief that they are that good. As things stand at the start of the game, though, almost all of their biggest stars are getting old and, while there are some good looking youngsters coming through, none of them look to reach the peaks of the current players, let alone surpass them. It has long been considered by many that the game has a bias towards the English and, while I don’t share that opinion, this experiment will hopefully either disprove or add weight to that argument.

    England is bursting of some of the biggest names in Europe: Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Tottenham and Liverpool are all clubs you would hope to avoid in continental competition. Manchester United, though, are undoubtedly the biggest of the bunch due to their incredible consistency over the years - you have to go back as far as 1991 to find a year where they didn’t finish in the top 3 of the league. Arsenal are considered the highest valued club, but with the club in trouble on the pitch in the real world it will be interesting to see how long they stay there.

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    Player spotlight: Connor Wickham, Sunderland



    It’s incredibly difficult to find an English player who hasn’t already had their entire lives laid bare, but I believe Wickham to at least have avoided the media glare somewhat thus far. 18 years old and labelled the next Les Ferdinand, he definitely has the potential to become an England regular, but he's currently quite a long way from that. One to keep an eye on to be sure.
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    Finland - Initial report



    Finland are very much a minor nation in European terms. To date, they have never qualified for a major international tournament, despite producing a handful of notable players over the years, and don’t look like they’ll be doing so any time soon.

    The only really noteworthy club in Finland are HJK, who hold a pretty decent reputation and monetary lead over the rest of the country. While HJK come up very regularly on the league history, there actually looks to be quite a bit of diversity.

    EDIT - Completely forgot they were a summer league and therefore in progress!

    At game start, FC Inter lead the league, but it's still very early and there are 3 teams with only a single loss or less.

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    Player spotlight: Perparim Hetemaj, Chievo (Co-owned by Brescia)



    Serbian-born Hetemaj is undoubtedly one of Finland’s best players at the moment. Possessing a pretty balanced set of attributes he should be able to put in a solid performance in any central midfield role. I doubt he’s going to set the world alight, but he should be a pretty good player for quite a few years yet.
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    Will you be looking at Liechtenstein aswell? Just curious with their teams playing in the Swiss league and whether Vaduz might impact on DLR if they turn into a good side

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbowmanuk View Post
    Will you be looking at Liechtenstein aswell? Just curious with their teams playing in the Swiss league and whether Vaduz might impact on DLR if they turn into a good side
    That's a good question, actually. I don't think the performance of just one club would be enough to raise the reputation of Liechtenstein, but I probably should include a note within my Switzerland updates in the interest of science.

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    France - Initial report



    Not quite big enough to be considered a Ďmajorí nation, France definitely have the quality to change that perception and have won 2 European Championships and one World Cup. A long list of players with very good potential means that the French national team should remain strong for many years yet to come - even if their national league doesnít grow much in stature.

    Lyon are definitely the biggest club in France, having gone through an extremely dominant spell throughout the 2000ís. Marseille are still a very capable team, though and with Lyon having slipped slightly the last couple of years they would be looking to capitalise. On the other hand, PSG are easily the richest club in France, having just received Middle East investment, and they will be hoping to turn that cash into results pretty quickly.

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    Player spotlight: Karim Benzema, Real Madrid



    Despite only being 23, Benzema is already extremely highly regarded. A regular in the first team at Real and for the national team you would expect him to reach his full potential pretty easily barring any major injuries. With 12 international goals already, thereís a very good chance that heíll be able to smash Thierry Henryís record of 51 goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscotti View Post
    That's a good question, actually. I don't think the performance of just one club would be enough to raise the reputation of Liechtenstein, but I probably should include a note within my Switzerland updates in the interest of science.
    Thats good to know, on FM11 I edited Vaduz's Training and Youth academy to all 20's holidayed for 5 years and about 6 YA players had PA's over 150.

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    Germany - Initial report



    With the Bundesliga now rated higher than Serie A in-game, I think itís fair to say Germany are one of the big boys now. They have a very young squad who showed much of their promise at the 2010 World Cup and can only get better from there. Better yet, a large number of their young stars are still based domestically, ensuring the strength of the Bundeslga moving forward.

    Much like England, Germany boasts a large number of teams capable of European success, including Schalke, Borussia Dortmund, Leverkusen, VfB Stuttgart, HSV and Werder Bremen. Also like England, one club stands head and shoulders above the rest, with Bayern MĀ揣nchen having only failed to finish in the top 3 once in the last 15 years. Bayern also lead the way both in terms of reputation and value.

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    Player spotlight: Mario GŲtze, Borussia Dortmund



    GŲtze is just one of many extremely exciting young German players and itís hard to imagine him not having an extremely successful career ahead of him. Still at the club where he came through the ranks, itís entirely possible we may see a big money move to another club, but being valued at over £13m already it would probably take an extremely large sum of money to pry him away.

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    Greece - Initial report



    Greece have a strange record. While they won the European Championships in 2004, theyíve never really had all that much success otherwise - never placing again at a major international tournament and boasting all of a single runners-up medal in European club football.

    Olympiakos are the biggest team in Greece, with a slightly higher reputation that Panathinaikos, but also of note are both PAOK and AEK - thereís been very few years when a team other than these 4 finished in the top 3 of the league. That also means thereís quite a financial void, as well, which doesnít look like it will be bridged any time soon.

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    Vasilis isnít necessarily a big name, but he is rated as having the highest current ability of any Greek player in the game. A broad spread of stats means he should be pretty versatile, but with him never having played outside of Greece it seems unlikely that a foreign club will take a risk on him now.

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    This should be an interesting read, surprising to see that Croatia doesn't have slightly more talented players in terms of PA. Englands high rated players are all near the end of their career although i'm sure that quite a few regens of the same ability will be produced because of the standard of facilities.

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    The Netherlands - Initial report



    The Netherlands (referred to in-game as Holland) are ranked 1st in the world at game start. Despite the strength of their national team, the majority of the best Dutch players ply their trade abroad and as a result the domestic league has declined somewhat since itís heyday in the 70ís.

    Ajax and PSV are obviously the best known names, but Feyenoord and FC Twente have also both seen some success and are certainly not unknown entities. The dominance of PSV and Ajax in the league has recently been broken, and as a result the Eredivisie is very much up for grabs. Presumably due to their successes, Ajax remain by far the richest club in the country and that will undoubtedly give them a huge advantage for the future.

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    Player spotlight: Georginio Wijnaldum, PSV



    Probably an unfamiliar name to most, Wijnaldum is a product of the Feyenoord academy, where he had played his football until his £4.3m switch to PSV at the end of the 10/11 season. Capped at under-21 level, heís still young enough to have quite a bit of growth and will quite likely become the next in a long line of great Dutch attacking midfielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebaker View Post
    This should be an interesting read, surprising to see that Croatia doesn't have slightly more talented players in terms of PA. Englands high rated players are all near the end of their career although i'm sure that quite a few regens of the same ability will be produced because of the standard of facilities.
    Having PA's in the 160's isn't all that bad, and the players in the Croatian list are all still pretty young as well.

    The England situation will certainly be interesting, but those English facilities are also (in theory) likely to produce great players of any number of nationalities due to the multicultural nature of English football.

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    Hungary - Initial report



    Hungary were once a pretty strong nation, having been World Cup runners up on two occasions and having won 3 Olympic Games, but this success was so many years ago that not many will remember it any more. Their domestic league would definitely not be considered strong and without significant investment itís probably never will be.

    Debrecen are the name most will recognise from Hungarian football, but theyíve recently been caught by Videoton - whom it has been suggested have received financial and other aid from the government in recent times. There are no particularly rich clubs in Hungary, but there is still a bit of a void between those that compete regularly in Europe and those that donít. Historically, the league has been Debrecen's to lose, but with them having not even made the top 3 last season are we on the verge of a sea change?

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    Player spotlight: Balazs Dzsudzsak, Anji



    Dzsudzsak (not one to pronounce while drunk) is a left winger currently playing in Russia after his £12m move from PSV in 2011. At 24 he certainly has a good number of years ahead of him, but he is one of only a very few really good Hungarian players. If no great prospects come through in the next couple of years it may leave the Hungarian national side in a lot of trouble.

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    Iceland - Initial report



    Iceland are the lowest ranked nation in this experiment, and itís easy to see why. Barring the occasional solid player, Iceland have never really produced any real stars, and this looks like it may well continue well into the future.

    With the nation as a whole being so lowly ranked, itís no surprise that thereís no major names in terms of reputation. FH have definitely been the strongest team in the league recently, but having not had much success outside of Iceland it means thereís no real money in the country either.

    At game start, the league is 5 games in, and itís definitely far too early to draw any conclusions from that.

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    Player spotlight: Eidur Gudjohnsen, AEK



    Having played at a number of the best clubs in Europe, Gudjohnsen is probably Icelandís best ever player. That said, heís never really been considered a world-beater and at 32 is now coming towards the end of his career. With nobody immediately looking like theyíll step into his shoes, it seems likely that Iceland will slide even further down the FIFA Rankings.

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    Republic of Ireland - Initial report



    Ireland are the first of the ďHome NationsĒ, despite not actually being part of the UK. This means that many products of the English youth system can trace solid roots back to Ireland and has been a source of the majority of their best players. Ranked as high as 31st in the world Ireland have a pretty strong national team indeed, but have never really tasted a huge amount of success in International competitions.

    Because all their best players tend to come from England, the Irish league isnít particularly strong. The best known team are Shamrock Rovers, although their league success has been limited and theyíre certainly not the richest club.

    Another summer league, Sligo have got themselves a bit of breathing room at the top after 13 games, but thereís still quite a long way to go.

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    Player spotlight: Aiden McGeady, Spartak Moscow



    McGeady is quite a strange one by many standards. Heís part of the very small number of British players who play abroad, but is also an Ireland regular who has never played in the English pyramid. In previous versions he proved to be quite a journeyman, and it will be interesting to see if that remains the same now.

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    Israel - Initial report



    Israel sit only one place behind Ireland in the FIFA Rankings, but do not have the luxury of a powerful neighbour to poach talent from. While theyíve never received won a continental competition, their clubs often prove to be tough opposition and only seem to be getting better as time goes on. They already sport a collection of youngsters that show the potential of being much better than their current crop of players.

    While there are quite a few strong clubs playing in Israel, the most common you will hear are probably Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Hapoel Tel Aviv and Maccabi Haifa, with the latter being marginally higher ranked by reputation. As we see in many of these mid-range nations, there is quite a gap financially between the big names and the rest of the pack. While the last couple of years has only seen those three do well in the league, you donít have to go back too far before you start seeing other names, and that makes for a very interesting future for the Israeli league.

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    Player spotlight: Beram Kayal, Celtic



    Currently playing his football in Scotland, Kayal is a great example of the future promised by Israeli football. 23 years old and still with some room to grow, he should have a solid career ahead of him, but may soon be surpassed by some of the exciting youngsters being produced back at home.

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    Halfway point achieved. Might slow down a little now, as I'm working for the next few days, but with any luck I should be in a position to start holidaying before next weekend.

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    Very interesting so far, have enjoyed reading the summaries and am looking forward to seeing how things progress as the game goes on. KUTGW

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    Italy - Initial report



    Not so many years ago, Italy boasted the strongest league in the world and one of the strongest national teams in the world as well. Since then, though theyíve been tarnished by a huge match fixing scandal and have now Serie A has slipped down to 4th. Many of their best players are well past their prime, but thatís not to say there arenít a host of promising youngsters coming through and it could herald a return to prominence for one of the greatest footballing nations in history.

    I could probably list every team in Serie A and a few more beyond in terms of reputation and not be overdoing it, but instead I will only highlight a few. Inter Milan have been the most dominant force of recent years, although AC Milan have also come back strong of late. Rounding out the top 4 in the reputation rankings are Roma and Juventus. An awful lot of the money in Italian football is tied up in just 3 clubs.

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    Player spotlight: Andrea Poli, Sampdoria (On loan at Inter)



    This 21 year old Sampdoria player clearly shows an awful lot of promise for Inter to have loaned him with an agreed £7m fee. Italy has a great tradition of strong, defensive minded central midfielders, but Poli looks like he could actually develop into quite a creative force - something that Italy seem to have lacked in recent years.

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    Northern Ireland - Initial report



    Being another ĎHome Nationí means Northern Ireland definitely punch well above their league stature would indicate. Ranking in at a fairly healthy 59th, theyíve spent most of history in the shadows of their Republic cousins. With a few decent looking youngsters coming up in England, could they make a name for themselves in the future?

    Domestic football in Northern Ireland is not of a high standard, with Glentoran and Linfield being the best of a bad lot, having shared the title between them for the past 10 years. For whatever reason, Linfield appear to have pretty healthy financial backing, and it remains to be seen if this will unbalance the league significantly.

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    Player spotlight: Chris Brunt, West Bromwich Albion



    A solid winger, Brunt is unlikely to ever develop to be much more than that and as a result is analogous to Northern Irish football as a whole - not a lot to look forward to beyond players that are ďgood enoughĒ. Could this change in the future? absolutely. Do I think it will? Unlikely.

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    Really interesting experiment. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

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    Two questions:

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    Erm, what's DLR?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_B View Post
    Two questions:

    What are the specs of your PC?
    Erm, what's DLR?!
    I can't answer the first question, but DLR is Dynamic League Reputation. In theory if a league such as the Czech Republic's start having teams doing really well in European competitions, the reputation of that league will increase which results in attracting better quality players to all the teams in the league.

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    Lovin the initial reports and the work you are putting in this Biscotti. KUTGW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_B View Post
    Two questions:

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    Erm, what's DLR?!
    I'm running a Core i5 2500k with 8gb of RAM, although there's still quite a few upgrades I want to make to it beyond that.

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    Norway - Initial report



    Norway are the highest ranked of the Scandinavian nations, although many probably think of Sweden as the better team. Their league isnít really of all that high standard, though, meaning all of the biggest names play abroad.

    Despite the relative lack of strength to the league Norway boast quite a number of recognisable clubs, but Iím only going to highlight the biggest of them: Rosenborg. Since 1992, theyíve only failed to win the league on 3 occasions. Theyíve also got a sizeable financial lead, although itís not necessarily as large as you might expect.

    After 13 games of the season, Rosenborg sit top, but only by a point.

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    Player spotlight: Brede Hangeland, Fulham



    Hangeland will be a familiar name to many fans of the Premiership, having made the move to Craven Cottage back in 2007. Born in Houston, Texas, he is a key member of the Norway squad and considered by many to be among the best centre-backs playing in England right now.

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    Poland - Initial report



    Poland could easily be described as a minnow, particularly in recent years, but they have in fact managed to finish 3rd at two separate World Cups. In spite of this, Polish football seems to be at a bit of a lull, with no players standing out as huge stars and only one player looking to have huge potential, it could be a long while before the Poles are celebrating another success.

    Despite their obvious domestic dominance, Wisla arenít the highest reputation team in Poland. That honour goes to Lech, with Legia also slipping in ahead of Wisla. One unusual thing about the Ekstraklasa is that there is a fairly well defined curve to the finances, instead of the usual huge drop off you see in many of the mid-range European leagues.

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    Player spotlight: Wojciech Szczesny, Arsenal



    One area Poland havenít seemed to suffer is Ďkeepers, with Kuszczak, Boruc and Fabaianski, plus until recently with Dudek. Szczesny, though, is the only Polish player to have a really significant PA and, assuming he gets utilised at Arsenal, could well reach it. It will be interesting to see if Poland continues to have this leaning towards goalkeepers.

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    Portugal - Initial report



    Portugal are probably second only to England in the ďpromised much, delivered littleĒ stakes. Long considered right on the verge of being one of the best nations in the world, Portugal have time and againfailed to deliver more than a solid showing in international competition.

    Portugal are the classic example of the financial void, with Porto, Benfica and Sporting all being valued at a huge sum compared to next in line Braga. Because of their consistent success in the league, Porto are ranked highest by reputation.

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    Player spotlight: Christiano Ronaldo, Real Madrid



    Whatever you think of him personally, there is no denying he is one of the worldís leading footballers. Valued at £35m and with so many high stats, there is no reason why Ronaldo isnít going to be a key player for quite a number of years. The question still remains whether Portugal as a whole will benefit from his quality or if theyíll still remain as a Ďnearlyí team.

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    Excellent experiment!! I thought I knew a lot about european leagues and football, but here you give us plenty of interesting information.

    Will be interesting to se how all of this pans out after a while. As a norwegian I don't have much hope that Norway is going to be a force.

    PS. What is it with the names of the big 3 in Portugal? Was there something wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton View Post
    Excellent experiment!! I thought I knew a lot about european leagues and football, but here you give us plenty of interesting information.

    Will be interesting to se how all of this pans out after a while. As a norwegian I don't have much hope that Norway is going to be a force.

    PS. What is it with the names of the big 3 in Portugal? Was there something wrong?
    Yeah, due to (I presume) licensing issues, their names were merely 3 letter representations. Looking through my other saves, it appears to have been fixed with the same thing that fixed the Germany situation, so I didn't actually need to create the lnc file.

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    Romania - Initial report



    Often considered to be a pretty solid nation, Romania have actually had very little success beyond the occasional upset result. While only having a single Champions League trophy, Romanian clubs are also well respected in European competitions, and if the Nation is to improve significantly this is where they will be looking for results.

    Despite the level of respect they tend to claim, Romanian clubs donít seem to rank all that highly in terms of reputation. Largest without doubt would be Steaua Bucharest, who have been somewhat dominant in the league for many years, but Dinamo Bucharest have a rich history and CFR Cluj have risen to rapid prominence after gaining financial backing in 2002. That financial backing leave CFR Cluj top of the pile in terms of value, but much like Poland there is a really smooth curve leaving minimal gaps for clubs to bridge if they want to climb.

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    Player spotlight: Gabriel Torje, Udinese



    A few years ago I could easily rattle off 5 or 6 Romanian players of note if quizzed, but I noticed looking through the list today that I barely know any of them any more from real life. This is possibly due to a distinct lack of high calibre players and, while there is some potential talent, no breakout youngsters making a name for themselves. Foremost amongst said talent is Torje, who has a PA to become a really good player. That is, of course, assuming Udinese can develop him effectively.

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    Interesting that Romania has so few quality players at the moment - looks like things could get worse before they improve. The top PA players seem to be mostly at italian clubs, were they generated there or bought from romanian clubs?
    I managed in Hungary last year and the clubs never improved their facilities, they all bought in young afrcian players and when finances improved young south americans. There were very few decent hungarians around.

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    Looks like they came through the ranks in their home nation but were quickly snapped up cheap by the Italian clubs - probably a hefty scouting relationship between the 2 nations. It will be interesting to see if the trend continues as the game progresses.

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    Russia - Initial report



    Russia are a nation with much promise, but as yet they havenít quite lived up to it. Domestically Russia is looking stronger than ever thanks to the influx of heavy financial backers and in theory this should result in even more high quality players coming through the ranks.

    The financial reservoir in Russia means that there are quite a lot of ďbig nameĒ clubs these days, but CSKA Moscow, Spartak Moscow, Zenit St. Petersburg and Rubin Kazan are probably the biggest. The past 10 years have seen quite a selection of league winners and right now itís difficult to see any one team that might rise to dominate.

    At game start, Dinamo Moscow sit top by 2 points with 10 games played.

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    Player spotlight: Alan Dzagoev, CSKA Moscow



    Russia currently donít have all that many players with massive potential, but Dzagoev is definitely a player who will be strong in the future. His favourite club outside of Russia are Chelsea, and I'm sure he'll be hoping to reach his full potential in case they come sniffing around

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    Scotland - Initial report



    Scotland are the “home nation” with the least need to lean o the English structure, sporting a fairly high ranked league and clubs with a history of European success, albeit very little recently.

    There is a heavy reputation imbalance in the Scottish league, with Rangers and Celtic being way ahead of the rest of the nation. It’s been many years since they didn’t between them make up 1st and 2nd in the league, and you have to go right back to Sir Alex Ferguson at Aberdeen in the 80’s for a time when one of them didn’t win the league.

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    Player spotlight: Steven Naismith, Rangers



    One of quite a number of Scots still playing in their domestic league, Naismith has the potential to be a solid if unremarkable player. While that may not seem great from a Scottish standpoint, he isn’t their only “solid” player and quite often a team full of solid players will be able to overcome a team full of average players with just one or two stars.

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    Serbia - Initial report



    Another young nation, Serbia have certainly made a bit of a splash at an international level. They currently hold on to a strong 29th position and look like they will at the very least be able to maintain that kind of position in the future with many of their best players holding regular first team spots in the more major European leagues.

    Domestically, things donít look as great for Serbia, but they donít look terrible either. The 2 Belgrade clubs, Partizan and Red Star, are the highest rep teams and also the richest. Since itís iception, the league has been very completely dominated by these two teams and it will be interesting to see if any other clubs emerge as strong in the future.

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    Player spotlight: Slobodan Rajkovic, Hamburger SV



    Rajkovic plies his trade in Germany after being bought for £1.7m from Chelsea. The Belgrade-born strong centre back looks has quite a few areas of his game he needs to improve for him to be considered a quality player, but the potential is there for him to reach it.

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    Slovakia - Initial report



    Like so many of the young central European nations, Slovakia have earned a place of mild respect. Not necessarily as strong as some of itís neighbours, the Slovaks are still a very capable nation and have been improving steadily. Even so, they donít have too many ďbig namesĒ among their roster.

    Not possessing of a particularly strong domestic league, with Slovan Bratislava being the standout club, there isnít a huge amount of money in Slovak football. The league has been pretty well distributed since it came into being, but it wouldnít take much success on a continental stage to push one club into a position of dominance.

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    Player spotlight: Juraj Kucka, Genoa (Co-owned by Inter)



    At 24, it seems unlikely that Kucka will be able to reach his full PA, but the co-ownership with Inter means you canít necessarily rule it out. It certainly wouldnít be unthinkable to see a youngster come through and surpass him long before he gets close to calling time on his career.

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    Slovenia - Initial report



    Slovenia is probably the nation I know least about in this experiment. I know they are a former Yugoslav nation andlike so many of their neighbours have developed into a solid football nation, but if I werenít looking it up Iím not sure I could have named even a single team from the country.

    Despite my lack of knowledge, their clubs arenít rated terribly. Domzale, Maribor, and Olimpija sit highest on reputation, although only the two latter have a financial lead. The league appears to have been mostly dominated by Maribor, but itís certainly not been to the extent that they couldnít drop away after a bad season or two.

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    Player spotlight: Haris Vuckic, Newcastle



    Potentially the next Srecko Katanec (I hope Iím not the only one who had to look him up) this Newcastle youngster certainly has the potential to play at a Premiership level, but as with so many youngstes at the start of the game it is unclear whether heíll actually be able to reach this height. Currently only capped at U21 level, heís also eligible to play for Bosnia & Herz., if he were to so choose.

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    Love the Experiment! But I have to disagree with you on one call:
    Quote Originally Posted by Biscotti View Post

    Portugal are probably second only to England in the “promised much, delivered little” stakes. Long considered right on the verge of being one of the best nations in the world, Portugal have time and again failed to deliver more than a solid showing in international competition.
    I think Holland would be even worse in this regard, perhaps even topping England in many ways.

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    Spain - Initial report



    Spain can be incredibly proud of their position in the world. Current World Cup and European Championship holders, The two highest reputation teams in the world and a league that ranks second only to the English Premiership. Yet it is a position they’ve taken an incredibly long time to build to - despite promising it for many years, Euro 2008 was their first piece of international silverware since the 60’s. It’s now very much on other nations to topple Spain, but there are many well placed to take advantage if the Spanish were to make a mistake.

    Much like Italy, I could probably list every team in the La Liga as significant without too much complaint, but in truth Real Madrid and Barcelona are so very far ahead in every respect that it would seem unfair to them to list any other teams as even a near equal. There have been occasions when one of them didn’t win the league, but it is uncommon enough that it is a big deal when it happens.

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    Player spotlight: Sergio Busquets, Barcelona



    Spotlighting a Spanish player had much the same problem as doing an English one, but Busquets caught my eye based on his age. At just 22 he has already established himself as a first choice player for both club and country, despite strong competition at both levels, and plays with a maturity not often sen at his age. Already valued over £20m it is hard to imagine him not sticking at Barcelona for his entire career, most of which still lies ahead of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elnaith View Post
    I think Holland would be even worse in this regard, perhaps even topping England in many ways.
    Holland definitely have a similar problem, but the Dutch haven't stumbled as much as either Portugal or England. They may not have set the world alight, but I can't remember the last time they fell really flat either. It's entirely possible that my opinion comes from the geography of things, though, as you have to look pretty hard to find discussion of anything that isn't "home nation" related in this country.

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    Sweden - Initial report



    Sweden are the last of our Scandinavian countries and are also probably the most successful, although not so much in recent years. Despite being ranked as high as 18th, they only really have a single star player and itís difficult to see where his replacement might come from in a few years once he starts to decline.

    When you looks at reputations there are quite a number of teams pretty even at the top, but probably the most recognisable names are AIK and Malmo FF. Malmo have also managed to get themselves into a position of significant financial superiority. The league has actually been incredibly well balanced over the years, but that financial void is pretty huge and I should think it will start taking itís toll soon enough.

    In spite of their financial position, Malmo are actually quite a way off the pace after 11 games, but thereís still plenty of time for things to change.

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    Player spotlight: Albin Ekdal, Caglairi (Co-owned by Juventus)



    While there doesnít look to be a new Ibrahimovic on the way, 21 year old Ekdal certainly looks to have some good promise. His current club of Cagliari isnít necessarily the best place for him to develop, so heíll be looking to impress enough for Juventus to buy out the remaining half of his contract.

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    Switzerland - Initial report



    Switzerland are a fairly decent national side and are rarely given worse than an outside chance of qualifying for international tournaments. This leaves them with the fairly respectable rank of 30th and, with their upcoming youngsters looking to be of a similar quality to what they currently have, I should expect them to continue to hover around about that level.

    The Swiss league isnít particularly highly ranked, but they have a handful of clubs of note. Basel would be the best known (and richest) of them, but FC Zurich, Young Boys and Sion are all also worth a mention. Basel definitely have the best league form, but there are plenty of other names that appear regularly on the winners list so it wouldnít be surprising for them to not win the league.

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    Player spotlight: Gokhan Inler, Napoli



    Inler is one of quite a few Swiss/Turkish players and is currently the highest rated Swiss player. Napoli clearly agree, having just splashed out more than £11m on him. He wore the captainís armband for the national side in Spainís only defeat of the 2010 World Cup.



    Footnote - Liechtenstein


    Because Liechtenstein doesnít have a league structure of itís own, itís clubs play in the Swiss structure. For this reason it will be interesting to also follow their progress and see how closely it is tied to that of the Swiss. Their top club currently are Vaduz.

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    Turkey - Initial report



    Turkey are often thought to be a much stronger nation than they actually are. Missing out on major international competition more often than they qualify, theyíve still managed to earn a very respectable 24th. That said, they have quite a lot of talent, and I canít help but think itís only a mateer of time before they become regular qualifiers.

    FenerbahÁe lead the way in terms of reputation, but Besiktas and Galatasaray are hot on their heels. The finances make a nice curve, allowing for a fair amount of balance within the league - while it has mostly been won by the top 3, the runner-up places have regularly gone to any number of other teams.

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    Player spotlight: Nuri Sahin, Real Madrid



    Not necessarily the highest potential of the Turkish, Sahin still has a good potential - enough to have parted Real with £8.5m at least. There will certainly be hopes amongst the Turkish fans tht he will be able to reach his potential, and also that many more like him are produced.

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    Ukraine - Initial report



    Ukraine are a nation with quite a lot of promise, but as yet theyíve not really achieved anything of significance. The same can be said for their clubs playing in Europe, although to date they only have a single Europa League win.

    Shaktar have a huge financial lead, and a similar reputation one. Metalist and Dynamo Kyiv are also fairly well known names within Europe. Shaktar may have the finances, but historically it has been Dynamo who have actually been the most successful at home.

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    Player spotlight: Dmytro Chygrynskyi, Shaktar Donetsk



    Chygrynskyi was purchased by Barcelona for £22.5m a couple of years back, but returned to Shaktar just one season later for just over £13m. What this says for his abilities is unknown, but he is certainly one of the brightest players that Ukraine have at the moment. With Shevchenko most definitely past his prime, Ukrainian football is badly lacking any kind of star player. I doubt Chygrynskyi can fill that hole, but as things stand he is best equipped to do so.

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    Wales - Initial report



    The final nation of our experiment, Wales look to have an extremely bright future. As weíve seen with the other home nations, Wales get their talent primarily from the English structure. While their domestic clubs may rank among the lowest in Europe, their English connection has actually produced a couple of youngsters who look like theyíll become world class players.

    The best known club in Wales would be TNS, although there really isnít much of any money for the privilege. Theyíve probably been the most consistent performer in the league, at least.

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    Player spotlight: Jack Collison, West Ham



    Most people should know the names of Bale and Ramsey, but Collison also has the potential to play at a high Premiership standard. West Ham are well-known for being a club that produces quality youngsters and it seems likely that Collison will be another that the Hammers can boast. Whether heíll stay at West Ham, however, is most definitely up in the air - if they donít make it back to the Premiership then heíll surely have the bigger clubs sniffing around him.

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    And Finally - Infoburst


    Finally, before I start holidaying, I present the following screenshots without comment:


    UEFA Coefficients - Nation | Qualification Places

    UEFA Coefficients - Club

    European competition rankings | World competition rankings

    FIFA World Rankings

    Future Transfers

    Worldwide Club reputation ranking

    World's richest clubs

    World's best players (CA)

    World's best players (PA)



    As is normal in this game, there were clubs that needed some players to be generated in order to fill out their roster. Here is the regen created by that with the highest PA:






    If there's any other piece of information people would like to know, please don't hesitate to ask and I will try to include it in the next update.

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    I would like to know where the best regens come from ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animosama View Post
    I would like to know where the best regens come from ?
    Difficult to know before I've done any holidaying

    but my intention is to do a roundup of regens once a year which, after a few years, should give us some ideas as to the answer.

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    September 2011



    Not a huge amount has happened in these 3 months, as you might expect, so this update will just be an infodump of league tables (where leagues have already started) and transfer updates. Those with no league table link are the leagues which are yet to kick off.

    Austria | Transfers
    Belarus | Transfers
    Belgium | Transfers
    Bulgaria | Transfers
    Croatia | Transfers
    Czech Republic | Transfers
    Denmark | Transfers
    England | Transfers
    Finland | Transfers
    France | Transfers
    Germany | Transfers
    Greece | Transfers
    Holland | Transfers
    Hungary | Transfers
    Iceland | Transfers
    Ireland | Transfers
    Israel | Transfers
    Italy | Transfers
    Northern Ireland | Transfers
    Norway | Transfers
    Poland | Transfers
    Portugal | Transfers
    Romania | Transfers
    Russia | Transfers
    Scotland | Transfers
    Serbia | Transfers
    Slovakia | Transfers
    Slovenia | Transfers
    Spain | Transfers
    Sweden | Transfers
    Switzerland | Transfers
    Turkey | Transfers
    Ukraine | Transfers
    Wales | Transfers


    World Rankings
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    Current Wonderkids of the world


    Obviously, the main newsworthy point are the cash-splashing of Arsenal and Man City, with both Maicon and Ganso making their way to The Citizens

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    Although it is still the initial stage there are 3. things which have surprised me a little:

    1. The lack of transfer activity in Russia, thought there would be a lot more going on there, maybe not so because it is mid-season?
    2. The big three in Turkey not making any major signings, only Galatasaray spent a little, but it was on players from South Africa and Australia, hardly very promising.
    3. Similar to Turkey, Dinamo Kyiv and Shakhtar Donetsk have not made any major signings. In this case you see it is not making much of a difference though, with the big two at the top.

    Excellent read so far, am looking forward to seeing if there will be a change of transfer pattern over the seasons. KUTGW

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    Quote Originally Posted by corinthiano View Post
    Although it is still the initial stage there are 3. things which have surprised me a little:

    1. The lack of transfer activity in Russia, thought there would be a lot more going on there, maybe not so because it is mid-season?
    2. The big three in Turkey not making any major signings, only Galatasaray spent a little, but it was on players from South Africa and Australia, hardly very promising.
    3. Similar to Turkey, Dinamo Kyiv and Shakhtar Donetsk have not made any major signings. In this case you see it is not making much of a difference though, with the big two at the top.

    Excellent read so far, am looking forward to seeing if there will be a change of transfer pattern over the seasons. KUTGW
    I suspect the lack of activity so far has been due to it being the first transfer window of the game (many teams already with reduced budgets) and things will certainly look a lot different after the Feb 1st update.

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    Maybe you should also mention what's happening to the spotlight players? (like torosidis has been taken by arsenal)


    How did you get the wonderkids list? Marc-Andre ter stegen? :P :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrros View Post
    Maybe you should also mention what's happening to the spotlight players? (like torosidis has been taken by arsenal)


    How did you get the wonderkids list? Marc-Andre ter stegen? :P :P
    I'm currently thinking of updating on Player spotlights in the September updates (skipping this one due to the short time that's passed).

    My current intention for my updates, aside from the general progress reports, is as follows:

    June:- New round of player spotlights
    Sept:- Follow-up on previous spotlights
    Feb:- Statistics blocks - most caps, tallest player, other random stuffs


    That's not to say these will be the only things I'll include, but it's currently what I have in mind.

    As for wonderkids, the game has a set of criteria that players must meet before it classes them as "wonderkids". I think the requirements are max. age of 21 and min. CA of 145, although I could be slightly off on that. Anyway, FM RTE has the function within it's search filters to show only wonderkids.

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    OK, time to start working on the feb update. Might be a while before anything goes up because while for the initial update I grabbed screens as and when I needed them, this time I'm front loading by pulling all the screens I want before I start writing anything.

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    There's going to be a slight delay before I can start on the Feb update, as RTE needs updating for the new patch.

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    OK, everything works again now - time to start writing

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    No real surprise to see RB Salzburg setting the pace, although to see Austria Wien as the main chasing side as opposed to Rapid or Sturm Graz is slightly unexpected. Only one really significant transfer, as well, with Rasmus Lundgren earning RB Salzburg a nice payoff in his move to Fulham.

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    A lot of very tough fixtures for Austria, so no real shocks with the results, followed up with some pretty straightforward friendly wins and then a very good win in the Ukraine. That means Austria have climbed the rankings, although not by much.

    Highest Valued Player: Marko Arnautovic
    Highest Paid Player: Paul Scharner
    Tallest Player: Stefan Maierhofer
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    Most Useful Player | Best Legionary | Team of the Year

    The league season is over in Belarus, but the cup is still in play (I figure Iíll update that on the June update). BATE managed to lose the title on the final day to Shakter Soligorsk, whose 1,395 season ticket holders are undoubtedly delighted to see BATEís dominance broken. The Belarusian transfer market was pretty quiet, with quite a large amount of money coming in and not much at all going back out.

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    Despite having very few easy fixtures on paper, Belarus did extremely well - only losing 2 matches all year - and this meant they only failed to qualify for the playoffs based on results between teams.

    Highest Valued Player: Pavel Niakhaichyk
    Highest Paid Player: Aliaksandr Hleb
    Tallest Player: Vitaliy Shuganov

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    A very interesting season so far in Belgium as we near the end of regular league play. Most notable is Standardís very poor position, which currently leaves them very much in doubt to make it into the championship group. At the other end of the table, Beerschot AC were predicted a 7th place finish this year and are currently very much in danger of going down. Standard splashed the cash about during the January window, and this seems to have righted the ship for now, but if they donít get European football next season they could go into quite a spiral.

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    A pretty solid series of results before coming unstuck to Kazakhstan, but despite this Belgium still managed to slide down the rankings.

    Highest Valued Player: Marouane Fellaini
    Highest Paid Player: Marouane Fellaini
    Tallest Player: Kristof Van Hout

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    Seeing CSKA (Sofia) on top of the table is certainly not too much of a surprise and seeing Litex and Levski in 4th and 5th respectively would be unusual, if it werenít for the fact that just 5 points separate the top 7 teams. As with many of the smaller nations, transfer traffic is mostly heading out of the country, with England and Italy both being well represented as buyers.

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    A bit of a disappointing year for Bulgaria. Despite some credible draws, theyíll definitely not be happy with the results overall. They have managed to stay fairly flat though in terms of ranking, which will certainly be pleasing for the FA.

    Highest Valued Player: Dimitar Berbatov
    Highest Paid Player: Dimitar Berbatov
    Tallest Player: Slavcho Doychinov

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    Not much to surprise people here, with Dinamo way out ahead and Hajduk holding on to second place. Dinamo have managed to secure a large amount of finance from Germany, and the fact that itís not hurt their domestic season at all can only man they will get stronger still.

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    A mixed bag of results for Croatia, but ultimately theyíll have been disappointed to have not made it to Euro 2012. A slight drop in the rankings is the result of their year.

    Highest Valued Player: Luka Modric
    Highest Paid Player: Srdjan Lakic
    Tallest Player: Vanja Ivesa

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    A 3-way tie at the top currently, with Viktoria Pizen sitting in 1st on goal difference. At this stage you would still very much have to fancy Sparta to win it, though. Despite the obvious reputation of Sparta, they’ve been extremely quiet in the transfer market and, indeed, there actually hasn’t been a whole lot at all in temrs of players entering the country.

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    Bar the slip agaisnt Scotland, it was all going extremely well for the Czech Republic, until they came up against Turkey in the playoff and were unable to make their form count for them.

    Highest Valued Player: Petr Cech
    Highest Paid Player: Petr Cech
    Tallest Player: Jindrich Skacel

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    Mind if I ask what skin your using. It looks snazzy

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    off topic:
    if you compare the CAs and PAs of the English players with those of the German and Dutch...Why are they so much higher??
    As we all know, England didnt do very well lately in strong constrast to Germany and Holland. This does not reflect reality does it?

    And I would like to know why my previous post was deleted without informing me?

    On topic:
    Great thread! Love to check this regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stampler View Post
    off topic:
    if you compare the CAs and PAs of the English players with those of the German and Dutch...Why are they so much higher??
    As we all know, England didnt do very well lately in strong constrast to Germany and Holland. This does not reflect reality does it?
    That will be down to a couple of things I would assume: 1) The inherent randomness that the game goes through during initial setup (no 2 games are ever identical, even at the very start) and 2) English players are, for the most part, acknowledged to have very high levels of ability, but for whatever reason this rarely translates to on-field performance. The German team on the other hand is one with an awful lot of potential and they have been playing to that potential the last few years, thereby playing to a level beyond that which their CA might suggest. Similarly, the Dutch are a disciplined unit and as a whole perform much better than their individual parts would suggest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampler View Post
    And I would like to know why my previous post was deleted without informing me?
    Nobody in this thread is going to be able to help you with that. In fact, nobody in the CSE forum will be able to help you with that. Best bet would be asking questions via PM to mods if you feel you've been treated unjustly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampler View Post
    On topic:
    Great thread! Love to check this regularly.
    Thanks for the encouragement. It's taking quite a bit of effort on my part to not just repeat myself every post, so positive words make me smile immensely

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    thanks for your thoughts on the different PA/CA levels youre doing an incredible good job, i love the detail of it and the effort you put in here.
    i wasnt adressing you with the question about who deleted my post, i hoped some mod who controls the thread would do it.
    no problem.
    keep it up mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoalieManPat121 View Post
    Mind if I ask what skin your using. It looks snazzy
    The skin is Steklo X2. I've been a big fan of the Steklo series for a number of years now, and he just keeps making them better and better.
    Last edited by Biscotti; 15-03-2012 at 14:31.

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    February 2012


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    Autumn Player of the Year | Player of the Year

    Kobenhavn lead the league as you would expect, although the huge gap to second will certainly come as a nice surprise to fans of the club. Most of the major transfers consist of players leaving the country, but it certainly can’t be said that Danish clubs are afraid to spend what they bring in.

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    The Danish have to be extremely happy with their 2011. Not only did they make it to Euro 2012, but they also saw a good rise in the rankings - a good championships could see them trouble the top 10.

    Highest Valued Player: Daniel Agger
    Highest Paid Player: Daniel Agger
    Tallest Player: Mads Justesen
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    This is excellent work, I'm impressed with the level of detail. KUTGW!

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    (just to annoy me, the logo source I was using doesnít have an English flag in the same style >.>)


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    No real surprises at the top of the table, but down at the bottom we have a drastic departure from real life with both Newcastle and Swansea struggling. Ganso and Maicon havenít quite allowed Man City to hold the pace, but theyíre still well within reach o the title. Hulk has also joined the Premiership, although itís a little early to know his impact, but youíd have to feel like Everton will be badly missing Fellaini.

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    Exactly the kind of form the English have come to expect from their national team. While not inconsistent enough to fail to qualify, they still had a pretty bad year and the world rankings reflect this.

    Highest Valued Player: Andy Carroll
    Highest Paid Player: Wayne Rooney
    Tallest Player: Carl McNicholas

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    I am interested to see how Porto will be coping after selling 3 key players, mainly Jo„o Moutinho and Hulk!

    Excellent updates, KUTGW

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    February 2012


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    Player of the Year | Rookie of the Year | Team of the Year

    FC Inter will no doubt be delighted to have maintained their early lead to win the league, finishing well ahead of HJK. Despite only managing a very distant third in the league KuPS did manage to take home the cup. So far for the new season the transfer market has been pretty quiet, but considering the status of most Finnish teams there has actually been a fair bit of money spent.

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    Those results may not look good for Finland, but the losses were all games they wouldnít expect to win and they even managed a couple of draws they wouldnít have been expecting. Despite the positives, their world ranking has stayed pretty much the same.

    Highest Valued Player: Roman Eremenko
    Highest Paid Player: Roman Eremenko
    Tallest Player: Tatu Kallio

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    Apologies for the slow going. Iíd rather not sacrifice detail for the sake of me writing faster updates.



    February 2012


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    The top of the table looks very much as expected here, with Lyon sitting only slightly off the pace of PSG and Marseille. Only 9 points from 21 games at the bottom for AC Ajaccio is quite an impressive record, and their fans will definitely be preparing for the drop down. Quite a few big transfers going on here, with Ayew out and Afellay in being the most notable.

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    A very good year for France, with only 2 games they didnít win, sees them qualify easily for Euro2012 and rise slightly in the world rankings. A good tournament could be all there is between them and the top of the chart.

    Highest Valued Player: Franck Ribťry
    Highest Paid Player: Franck Ribťry
    Tallest Player: Lotfi Gherbi

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    The biggest surprise to date sees HSV struggling at the bottom of the table, but up at the top Bayern are looking very comfortable. Considering the strength of the German leagues, there has been a pretty small level of transfer activity, with no club spending even £10m to bring a player in or out of a German club.

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    2011 was a great year for Germany capped off with a couple of very disappointing results, but nothing bad enough to drop them from their high position in the World Rankings.

    Highest Valued Player: Bastian Schweinsteiger
    Highest Paid Player: Bastian Schweinsteiger
    Tallest Player: Daniel MŁller

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    Nothing of any real note in the league in Greece, nor is there too much to shout about in terms of transfers, except maybe the arrival of Bernard Mendy.

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    A very strong year for the national team which saw them peak at 4th and bodes pretty well moving into Euro 2012.

    Highest Valued Player: Vasilis Torosidis
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    Tallest Player: Manolis Stefanakos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscotti View Post
    The biggest surprise to date sees HSV struggling at the bottom of the table, but up at the top Bayern are looking very comfortable. Considering the strength of the German leagues, there has been a pretty small level of transfer activity, with no club spending even £10m to bring a player in or out of a German club.
    The same kind of happened in my Rubin Kazan game. HSV has been kind of a ping-pong club, going up and down pretty much every year. In my current date(end of the 2015 season), they got relegated again. Big money transfers? A few and mostly outgoing. Most of the money is concentrated in England (Aston Villa got taken over by a sugar daddy and they spent like 300 million euros in 2 years) and Italy (surprisingly Napoli is topping the Money spent charts).

    I really like the experiment and can't wait to see what happened in Romania and Russia.

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    Ajax hold top spot, but most of the other teams you might expect to be challenging arenít particularly close behind. Vitesse and FC Utrecht will definitely be happy that they are currently in the hunt for the title, though. Another nation with many transfers out and not a significant number coming in, but Vitesse have certainly been busy in the market.

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    Very little in the way of shock results means the Dutch maintain their top ranked spot and qualify for Euro 2012 with ease

    Highest Valued Player: Arjen Robben
    Highest Paid Player: Wesley Sneijder
    Tallest Player: Vincent Slot

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    Not dead, just really neglected


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    Videoton look extremely strong atop the league, with Debrecen not really looking like they’ll make a fight of it. Videoton have been the most active in terms of high-end transfers, both in the selling and in the buying.

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    Not a good year for the National team, with quite a number of very winnable games being dropped, giving them a significant drop in world rankings.

    Highest Valued Player: Balazs Dzsudzsak
    Highest Paid Player: Balazs Dzsudzsak
    Tallest Player: LŠszlů Kraft

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    A very close run season sees Valur crowned on goal difference giving them the only Champions League spot. Theyíll be joined in Europe by Vikingur and FH through league qualification and Fylkir, who won the cup despite being very nearly relegated this season.

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    A couple of solid wins for the Icelandic were enough to see a huge spike in the rankings, meaning 2011 was a good year for them.

    Highest Valued Player: Gylfi Sigurūsson
    Highest Paid Player: Eidur Gudjohnsen
    Tallest Player: Snorri Steinarsson

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