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    Just a test here really, I can not and any of my mates can't get big target men to score headers. In fact it's so hard to get any striker with pace/acc under 10 to score any goals.

    I can get my wingers to score a few headers and of course the odd one from a big fella (not from corners or free kicks) can anyone show me how or prove to me that it can be done.

    It's the single most annoying thing in FM and is the main reason i've given up till the match engine is updated, i'm sick of pace and more pace. It's not that i can't win, i've won the champions league 4 times with Vauxhall Motors but find it tedious that it's all done in the same stock way.

    It's really tiresome to watch the same generic cut inside and through ball working all the time yet wingers crossing to the middle is virtually a waste of time. Please somebody reignite my fire!

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    I dont have any video's but my big target man does score headers from time to time, but not as many as i would hope for.

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    I'm not sure I can really prove they were headers, but this big slow striker tore up the league for me. I think the best proof I have is the large number of assists coming from the wingers, who were playing as old school 'run down the wing, beat a man and cross it in' type wingers.

    They weren't from corners either ;)

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    Which version of FM had a flaw where there were too many headed goals from your big striker?

    I can't remember which, but you should go back to that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenco View Post
    Which version of FM had a flaw where there were too many headed goals from your big striker?

    I can't remember which, but you should go back to that one.
    FM07. Find a big man, set him as a target man and you were good to go

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    i know wilfried scores a fair few headers.

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    I don't tend to play with target men. I prefer possession football with a playmaker.

    I had Walcott get two headers for England against Moldova recently in an eventual hattrick. He was set to poacher with Rooney DLF-attack. Both came in at angles in open play (ie, from behind him rather than a winger from the touchline).

    Had Dzeko at Man City get a couple, when set as Advanced Forward, and that freebie striker I took on at Leeds (can't remember his name, but he's suspended for about six games at the start of the season - young French chap), he got a few as poacher when playing alongside a skillful DLF.

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    I have had several goals from open play in two saves. My only problem, was Carrol who couldn't even attempt headers from crosses until lately when he scored twice from open play headers.

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    I get a decent mix however you are right heading the ball isn't really a preferred option for a striker, mostly I find they'll tap it in or slide and put it in. Wingers seem to score more headers getting on crosses from the opposite side and my late arriving AMC chips in with a few.

    However in saying that it doesn't really bother me as long as they are going in by some method.

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    I though this was happening in low leagues only (I don't play in big teams).... poachers are just disturbing, and target mans are futile to me.


    (Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Argentina)

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    I found that my pacey strikers with basically no heading are scoring more header goals, so far, than my Target Man like striker with lots of heading and jumping. Dunno why.

    Then again, I am in the really obscure lower leagues of Northern Ireland and my players are mainly youths on nothing contracts.

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    I'll describe one my players made in a friendly match:

    - one of the fowards goes near the goal kick line and cross the ball over the keeper

    -player heads it over the keeper again but it's going to go out of the field

    -The foward that crossed the ball heads it once again over the keeper

    -another head, post and goal :P

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    Whilst I don't see many headed goals, I see a lot of goals scored with the feet after crosses are put into the box.

    I think you need to look for anticipation before jumping/heading, though of course those attributes can be useful on the halfway line or defending.

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    Most of the headed goals I see from open play are like the ones Vector described. Usually, a striker (and not necessarily a big one) goes unmarked at the far post and a winger/striker crosses it over a distracted keeper. On a few occasions, I've seen a diving header from a deflection.

    If you're using a single forward and attempting to cross it in while he's dealing with two centrebacks, you're not going to have much luck but that's the case in real life as well.

    You might try putting your target man/deep-lying forward on support duty so they arrive late in the box with some momentum instead of stopping and standing around for the cross.

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    this is what i have said from long time ago, heading has nerfed too much, which means target man setting not working, what i mean is heading flick, like how Andy Carroll's play, this shows the stupidity of the match engine

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    I think it was FM 09 where I played Arsenal as a 4-4-2 with Adebayour and Bendtner up front supported by wingers instructed to 'float crosses'. Jesus Harold Christ, the headed goals were every other minutes. It was ridiculous.

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    By the same token though, this latest edition seems to very much favor the inswinging free kick directed at "best header." Right now with that I basically score one out of every two.

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    FM09's wide play was useless and it didn't have the tactics creator. It was probably unpatched FM10.

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    Proof!

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    This is one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdaS56PsB9A


    I have had many others, but I don't have the time to go and look for all of them and then upload them. So, take my word, they do exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbowski View Post
    Just a test here really, I can not and any of my mates can't get big target men to score headers. In fact it's so hard to get any striker with pace/acc under 10 to score any goals.

    I can get my wingers to score a few headers and of course the odd one from a big fella (not from corners or free kicks) can anyone show me how or prove to me that it can be done.

    It's the single most annoying thing in FM and is the main reason i've given up till the match engine is updated, i'm sick of pace and more pace. It's not that i can't win, i've won the champions league 4 times with Vauxhall Motors but find it tedious that it's all done in the same stock way.

    It's really tiresome to watch the same generic cut inside and through ball working all the time yet wingers crossing to the middle is virtually a waste of time. Please somebody reignite my fire!
    Whats your tactics and role for the wingers and strikers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcm View Post
    This is basically a set piece situation.

    Headed goals from open play dry up the further up the leagues you move. In FM, for a striker to score a header from open play he has to be wide open and hit perfectly. Happens more often in lower quality leagues where marking is non-existent. Hardly ever works in the top leagues. Explains why dafuge's giant striker scores a lot, for example, as defenders in NI are probably rather poor.

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    Romelu Lukaku and Ishak Belfodil as wide strikers. FC dropping deep constantly to give them space to run in behind.
    Rafael and Fabio set to aim for the far post with the crosses. My towering wide forwards scored a header at least every other game.

    I'd show you proof but my hard drive died and I lost the greatest save I've ever had

    I think that for you too constantly score headers, you need strikers who are exceptionally strong, exceptionally good in the air, and exceptional at finishing with their head (and finishing in general).

    Lukaku and Belfodil had 19-20 in all those attributes. And at 6'4" and 6'3" respectively, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who could stop them.

    In FM, though, it does seem like your player needs to be a great deal better in the air than the player opposing him for him to have a good chance of scoring with his head. Maybe this is one way the ME deals with too many chances being created. Gotta keep scores realistic.
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    But they're wide forwards not strikers, i can can my wingers/wide forwards to do it.

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    This is an headed goal my striker just got;



    This is the strikers stats;



    I think he's scored roughly 12 headed goals from crosses out of his 28 goals scored so far.

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    I haven't seen many headers in open play at all, only remember a few from my wingers.

    But then I haven't seen many from my team (Liverpool) IRL this season either, the only one I can recall is Suarez against QPR.

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    I did have many open play headers. All kind, including diving headers. The problem is I can't remember in which games. And as I said, I really don't have the time look for them.

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    I have had one target man header goal in all my time this fm12 so far (about 7 seasons worth). It was in the dutch league

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    A lot of people don't seem to understand that for headed goals the strikers movement off the ball and anticipation is crucial along with the actual delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aderow View Post
    Romelu Lukaku and Ishak Belfodil as wide strikers. FC dropping deep constantly to give them space to run in behind.
    Rafael and Fabio set to aim for the far post with the crosses. My towering wide forwards scored a header at least every other game.

    I'd show you proof but my hard drive died and I lost the greatest save I've ever had

    I think that for you too constantly score headers, you need strikers who are exceptionally strong, exceptionally good in the air, and exceptional at finishing with their head (and finishing in general).

    Lukaku and Belfodil had 19-20 in all those attributes. And at 6'4" and 6'3" respectively, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who could stop them.

    In FM, though, it does seem like your player needs to be a great deal better in the air than the player opposing him for him to have a good chance of scoring with his head. Maybe this is one way the ME deals with too many chances being created. Gotta keep scores realistic.
    You are just exploiting far post with forwards mimicking inside wingers. I used Demba Ba in similar manner to obliterate opposition in Primera.

    @Cleon Marcão is hybrid between Pele and Drogba last player in real football that was anywhere close to his ability (and mix of qualities) was Adriano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleon View Post
    This is an headed goal my striker just got;



    This is the strikers stats;



    I think he's scored roughly 12 headed goals from crosses out of his 28 goals scored so far.
    Cleon

    I notice that you have the Attributies page the first tab on your sceenshot, how did you do that? Does that mean when you click no the players name you get that screen first not the Profile page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    I notice that you have the Attributies page the first tab on your sceenshot, how did you do that? Does that mean when you click no the players name you get that screen first not the Profile page?
    Preferences - top right hand corner. Change it from profile to attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    Cleon

    I notice that you have the Attributies page the first tab on your sceenshot, how did you do that? Does that mean when you click no the players name you get that screen first not the Profile page?
    Preferences > General > Default Player Selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuge View Post
    Preferences - top right hand corner. Change it from profile to attributes.
    I'm too slow these days

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    Legends, thanks guys

    Very simple really

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    AC Milan's striker just scored a great header in open play against me (Bologna)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govnar1 View Post
    You are just exploiting far post with forwards mimicking inside wingers. I used Demba Ba in similar manner to obliterate opposition in Primera.

    @Cleon Marcão is hybrid between Pele and Drogba last player in real football that was anywhere close to his ability (and mix of qualities) was Adriano.
    pfft whatever >.>

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    I wouldn't know if he does or not, none of my crosses make it into the box.

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    Bluemagic21: Is it just me or do your grass looks so much better and different from what I m use to on my game? Do you use some kind of a skinning?

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    there you go

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    Rasiak scored a header for me once, don't think he did again.

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