Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 As it says in the title, Mr Hough Rolls back the years this is a 4-1-2-3 formation with much of the emphasis based on my incredibly successful FM10 Tactics. Now with that being said this tactic is very different - My FM10 tactics where very much about overloading the box and scoring goals from any angle and any person, This tactic is all about the strikers, The middle striker to be precise, You ST is without a doubt the main goal source in this tactic - The left and right strikers will chip in but it will mainly be the Middle ST. I must stress that this tactic isn't as dominating as my previous tactics with standard squads. However if you have the 'Right' Players i can see it becoming great once it gets going. I really like the way the midfield play regards to tracking back and also attacking - The midfielders will support the strikers and it's all about 1 touch football, Now I'm not saying Barcelona tica-taka but it is very similar style and very nice to watch. The way the midfielders defend is very good too chasing the and putting in tackles and trying to win the ball high up the pitch so we can counter attack quickly and effectively. I have tried to get the defence working as a unit rather than individuals, This can be risky against the fast paced opposition but i haven't encountered that as of yet thankfully. I have had some trouble in my Testing With Everton, I won't say everything has gone plain sailing because it hasn't. The trouble i have had is regarding some Team Talks i think. I seem to dominate teams around and below me but struggle against the bigger teams in the league, This isn't all the time though it's only when my team talks are out, I think alot of Empahsis has been put on Team Talks by SI this year. I haven't been using any form of team talks so i can't recommend any. My assistant Manager has been in sole Charge of them. In My Huddersfield Test i have found No Problems at all beating teams at will and no one really being able to stop me. In My Man City Test I have dominated the league and won all of my 12 games played A Lot of the opposition attacks come from long balls down the wings so try and make sure that the entire back 4 have good pace and positioning and anticipation attributes This tactic certainly isn't possession based i have averaged around 40% possession in most of my games but i think that as long as you win and win comfortably possession is a needless stat. The midfielders do get forward quite a bit do I'd suggest having them having good creativity and finishing to try and chip with the goals a little bit I am very confident in this tactic and i can't see there being to many problems regarding defence or attack. Match Prep has been set to Attacking Movement with the Workload being High - You can change this however i prefer it to be attacking. Maximum Pitch Size. Team Talks as i have highlighted are a sticky point - Use whatever you feel work the best for you. Training again same as team talks USe the best that you have found for you. No Opposition Instructions. if you get a man sent off take off one of the outer strikers to replace him If you have problems with yellow and red cards reduce the tackling of the Midfielders. Remember that al tactics need a period of 3-4 games for the players to gel, This one is no different, I would suggest about 10 games for a proper evaluation of the tactic. Screens. Tactic Link. http://www.mediafire.com/file/85q856f5p7lgfe1/Mr Hough Rolls Back The Years FM12 (Man City, Oct 2011).tac Remember Good Or Bad Experiances i wanna know. Thanks for the Support. Mr Hough. This tactic is meant to be a 3 striker tactic so don't change the formation hoping a few tweaks will improve it. *************************************************************************************** 28th Febuary 2012 Slight update on the 4-1-2-3 tactic. I had a theory about how defenders seem to defend better with a more aggressive defensive outlook so that is all that this is, The same tactic as above with a few tweaks. This is the best tactic i feel overall in defence and attack. I gotta mention Crag Swfc as well for the Brilliant Striker tweak which i use in this tactic. Crag recommends that you Tick Target man and Select a Target Man, I DO NOT do this and it hasn't had any effect on my team, It is Entirely up to YOU if you wanna do this or not. Same instructions as ABOVE. Enjoy the tactic. http://www.mediafire.com/?xacub65c6rq1pr5 *********************************************************************************************** Here is my 4-1-1-2-2 Formation tactic. I won't bore you with all the details simply because i get sick of writing them out all the time lol Match Prep has been set to Either Defensive Positioning or Team Work with the Workload being High. Maximum Pitch Size. Team Talks as i have highlighted are a sticky point - Use whatever you feel work the best for you. Training again same as team talks USe the best that you have found for you. No Opposition Instructions. If you have a man Sent off use a ST to replace him. In Hard away games i have found that moving the Wingers down into the ML MR position just to add abit more stability to the tactic. Remember that al tactics need a period of 3-4 games for the players to gel, This one is no different, I would suggest about 10 games for a proper evaluation of the tactic. This is my last tactic for this Patch, Hope you enjoy it. http://www.mediafire.com/?phobaw1b4a0020b Thanks for all the support and Appreciation you guys show me, Some of the messages i get regarding my tactics is really nice Thankyou. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petyo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Happy new year to all... Good luck with the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Starting a new save to test it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arron52 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Cool thanks for the tactic Mr Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami Hyypia Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks, going to give it ago once I get offered a job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth250480 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks. I may give this a try. Out of interest what midfielders would you suggest using. Is there a good combination to have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie09 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 just in time for my new pre season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuato Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 yees wonderful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibasta18 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 nice one dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Would it work if I retrain wingers as side strikers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dirk Diggler Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 BOOOOTIFUL if this works, then you will have satisfied my lust for strikers. Will let you know how your time and effort pans out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 First game STC hat-trick inside 29mins Jon Main of Tonbrige Angels 4 first half goals, gotta take him off as he is carrying a knock. First impressions are V.Good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinneyboy Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm goina give it a go now Mr Hough, thanks for the work you put into supplying Tactics for everyone, keep up the good work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks! Starting new game with Espanyol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
casperpld Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks for the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks. I may give this a try. Out of interest what midfielders would you suggest using. Is there a good combination to have You could use a combination of midfielders really, As Everton i used Fellini and Cahill - As Man City i Used Toure and Nasri/Silva and both combinations work really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Would it work if I retrain wingers as side strikers? Yes but make sure they are good in attack but yes you could do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dirk Diggler Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Not fluid by a long shot yet but......first match Blackpool 5 Ipswich 0 And loved watching the play, great start Mr Hough you may have just given FM12 the injection it needed for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronny Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I appreciate your excellent work with all your FM tactics Mr Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Sorry to hijack the thread, but it's where the traffic is. Can somebody please tell me how I assign a player to be playmaker? Can't find it on FM12. I have set team instructions to have a playmaker, but cannot see how to assign the actual player - thanks. P.S - Big up for The Hough for coming up with another tactci for us all :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 One final question I have, otherwise it's clear. CBs, do they have to be fast or can I get by easily with someone like Terry or Lugano? BTW to everyone using this tactic, out of your 3 strikers have the one with highest Heading play at STC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SucksAtFM Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Uploaded with ImageShack.us First game! They were favourites as well Uploaded with ImageShack.us Game 2 Uploaded with ImageShack.us The last one I will post but in 3 games (all away) this has been brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Mr.Hough can you upload the screens of your city save please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Mr.Hough can you upload the screens of your city save please? I would do mate but i have deleted my test, I don't keep them as i prefer to start again, Sorry about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 One final question I have, otherwise it's clear.CBs, do they have to be fast or can I get by easily with someone like Terry or Lugano? BTW to everyone using this tactic, out of your 3 strikers have the one with highest Heading play at STC. Yeah you could use Terry in defence, It is very important to have Fast Fullbacks though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMisBAD2010 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 hey Mr Hough, just a question about play down flanks did you mean it? and i shall be giving u feedback soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Legend Dave. ! Could you send some of those users over to my thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Legend Dave. ! Could you send some of those users over to my thread Ha, Cheers luv, My threads do get alot of attention when i release a tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 hey Mr Hough, just a question about play down flanks did you mean it? and i shall be giving u feedback soon Yeah i meant to do that i did play around with Through the middle but it was very crowded and hard to convert chances, Playing down the flanks provides space and better build up play within the tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 excellent Dave. gonna give it a try with my Real Madrid side on my 4th season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dirk Diggler Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Won 9 drawn 1 of my last ten games. Blackpool are back in the premiership..........thanks Mr Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Won 9 drawn 1 of my last ten games.Blackpool are back in the premiership..........thanks Mr Hough Your very welcome mate, I'm glad it works well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Last 3 games with my injury stricken less then average Tunbridge Angels side 3-1 win 7-1 win 5-0 win Well done Mr Hough you sir are a legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedro2 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Just a quick note to say thanks, 1st game, champions league group c Celtic 8 - Benfica 0, Gary Hooper 6 goals. nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarinet Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Just a quick note to say thanks, 1st game, champions league group c Celtic 8 - Benfica 0, Gary Hooper 6 goals. nice 8-0 against Benfica?? Bad boy Mr Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 8-0 against Benfica?? Bad boy Mr Hough Ha Ha, I'm sure if you where Benfica using this tactic you could do the same against some other teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarinet Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Ha Ha, I'm sure if you where Benfica using this tactic you could do the same against some other teams. Challenge accepted!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Sorry to hijack the thread, but it's where the traffic is. Can somebody please tell me how I assign a player to be playmaker? Can't find it on FM12. I have set team instructions to have a playmaker, but cannot see how to assign the actual player - thanks.P.S - Big up for The Hough for coming up with another tactci for us all :-) Anybody able to help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Anybody able to help? I did send you a pm about 3 hours ago, look there .. Its in Tactic/set pieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes_Coulam Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Anybody able to help? Click tactics and then set pieces and its at the bottom right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candre168 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I don't want to speak too soon, but four games in, this tactic looks like a 'diablo' tactic. VERY good and I don't even have proper strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 12.0.4 patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Ha, Cheers luv, My threads do get alot of attention when i release a tactic. No **** !! Anyway, you deserve it any time of the day. The effort you put it should be rewarded (ps, give me a shout on msn) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 12.0.4 patch? upupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupupup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 i have had mixed success with team talks. Below are two that I use (apologies I cant remember the OP's names, hope they dont mind) or throw in my own ideas using them as a template: KO: -Cautious > Expect a win- is the best against teams at home and lower teams away -Cautious > No pressure- is the best if you are a far weaker team -Passionate > For the fans- is for general matches where you have nothing specific to say Half time: -Cautious > Unhappy- when tied or losing, even if you are tied against a bigger team, this really motivates them -Cautious > Happy- best if you are +1 goal up -Caitous > Show me something else- Also a good one, only if you're losing FT: -Cautious > Well Done- Best one if you won any match, or tied against a hard team -Cautious > Unhappy- If you lost or drawn with a weaker team;or narrow loss, poor performance OR Team Talks: Pre Season friendlies: I just let the Assistant do all the team talks in friendlies. I dont care about friendlies, I just want all my players fit and not injured. Competitive matches: Pre-Match - Overall: Ask Assistant (determination, motivation, mental, man management should be good). Individual:The players who dont respond, tell them Passionately "you have faith" Half Time: Overall: Winning by 2 or more goals, tell them Calmly "dont get complacent". Overall: Winning by 1/drawing/losing, tell them Aggressively "do you even want to win this" (i do this even if i am an underdog. it fires them up) Individual talks for both scenarios: If it says player is playing confidently and "no reaction" or negative reaction, ignore them. If it says player is playing okay and "no reaction" or negative reaction, then Passionately "you have faith" If it says player is playing nervously and no matter what their reaction is, tell them Calmly "no pressure" Full Time: Overall: If you draw/lose, tell them Aggressively "we should be winning these matches" Overall: If you win, tell them Passionately "nice victory". Individual talks for both scenarios: If it says player had an "excellent/storming game, bossed the midfield etc", usually rating of 8.1 or above, tell him Passionately "very pleased" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrefc80 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 finding this tactic conceding loads away from home against half decent teams. tried different team talks to no avail team is howard walker, jagielka, bassong, baines fellaini wilshere, eriksen dos santos, tevez, wilfired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 work on patch 12.0.4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 No **** !! Anyway, you deserve it any time of the day. The effort you put it should be rewarded (ps, give me a shout on msn) I'm never on msn anymore, Facebook..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 finding this tactic conceding loads away from home against half decent teams. tried different team talks to no availteam is howard walker, jagielka, bassong, baines fellaini wilshere, eriksen dos santos, tevez, wilfired Really, Thats strange i hardly conceded anything. Try Defensive Positioning as Match Prep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I´m Porto and in first game of the league against Beira-Mar i win 12-0. Kleber 5 goals, Hulk 4 and Doumbia 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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