How on earth they FA turns down Sergio Aguero work permit!!

**pusamus** · 06-01-2008 01:46

I'm soo angry. after my bid, FINALLY, has been successfully approved by atletico and the player itself wanted to pledge his loyalty to my club.. The FA ****-block the move.

Sergio Aguero is a wonderkid, plays for Argentinian first team, is playing in Spain for 2-3 years and has been Atletico important player for the whole season. Why cant he get a work permit? Even a non-capped 18 years old nobody from Brazilian can get one.

Is there anyway to cheat the system? using any software of anykind. I tried FM Modifier, but dont know how to approve Aguero's work permit.

**pusamus** · 06-01-2008 01:46

I'm soo angry. after my bid, FINALLY, has been successfully approved by atletico and the player itself wanted to pledge his loyalty to my club.. The FA ****-block the move.

Sergio Aguero is a wonderkid, plays for Argentinian first team, is playing in Spain for 2-3 years and has been Atletico important player for the whole season. Why cant he get a work permit? Even a non-capped 18 years old nobody from Brazilian can get one.

Is there anyway to cheat the system? using any software of anykind. I tried FM Modifier, but dont know how to approve Aguero's work permit.

**grahamf** · 06-01-2008 02:23

To be honest I'm kind of confused because whenever I start a game he has Spanish as a second nationality Infact I'm fairly sure he did in FM07 too. In short he shouldnt need a work permit.

**Kain** · 06-01-2008 03:09

If what grahamf says isn't true (I haven't checked), then you could always just add a second nationality using FM Modifier.

**rinso** · 06-01-2008 03:14

he doesnt have it as second nationality on fm08, i just signed him, and had to appeal for the w/p at the end of 07/08 season...he might, however, be considering citizenship, not on the game right now so i cant check...

**gavnoble** · 06-01-2008 03:16

It isn't the FA who blocks the move, it is the Government.

**rinso** · 06-01-2008 03:20

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he is, indeed "considering citizenship" just had to load damn game up, must have had a few too many of the sponsor's tipple last night...

**Gooders93** · 06-01-2008 03:25

You can change his nationality using the FM Modifier and then change it back once he's got a work permit.

**Tom L** · 06-01-2008 03:44

Thats "cheating" ya know.

**Michael Osmann** · 06-01-2008 04:30

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">FA turns down Sergio Aguero work permit!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All my games I go after Sergio Aguero from the start and the FA ALWAYS turns down my request for a WP!!! But everytime I appeal against their decision. And guess what? They ALWAYS grand him a conditional WP. The Fa may be having some skizo problem there

**bigdunk** · 06-01-2008 04:39

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michael Osmann:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">FA turns down Sergio Aguero work permit!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All my games I go after Sergio Aguero from the start and the FA ALWAYS turns down my request for a WP!!! But everytime I appeal against their decision. And guess what? They ALWAYS grand him a conditional WP. The Fa may be having some skizo problem there

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that's exactly how it should work. The automatic work permits are only granted for players who have played in 75% of their countries senior A internationals over the last 2 years (plus there country must be ranked in the top 70 of the FIFA rankings). Aguero obviously doesn't meet this requirement so he fails for an automatic work permit. So he appeals and then other criteria come into play - and because he is young and very talented, he gets one.

**tomistuck** · 06-01-2008 06:03

Its the games way of balancing, stopping you signing the best players. Same reason wonderkids have no interest joining the best teams for 100k a week

**rinso** · 06-01-2008 14:22

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Its the games way of balancing, stopping you signing the best players. Same reason wonderkids have no interest joining the best teams for 100k a week </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

how do you work that out?!

**T-Bag** · 06-01-2008 14:24

I can't work out this WP thing at all.

I'm manager of Leeds and Brazil. I have signed LOADS of my Brazil U21 players for Leeds who have never had a cap and the WP has been accepted on appeal every time...

Then I get WP declined for good international players?!

**rinso** · 06-01-2008 14:26

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So he appeals and then other criteria come into play - and because he is young and very talented, he gets one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thats the main reason, also the reason behind why man u could sign Anderson last summer, and why they have agreed deals for two promising youngsters.

**Miles Jacobson** · 06-01-2008 14:28

Michael Osmann - actually not.

As bigdunk says, the way it tends to work is that the initial work permit request is looked at using very clear rules - one of these is that the player must have played in 3/4 of the International fixtures over the last 2 seasons, which Aguero has not done.

The appeal tends to include people from inside the football world, who will decide if there are special circumstances, and also take into account things like the players offered wages compared to the rest of the squad, likely position in the squad (key player, back up etc).

**heathxxx** · 06-01-2008 14:33

I find that if it's a reasonably high profile player, at the very least make sure they are offered "First Team" or "Key Player" in the contract.

I noticed offering less meant players I normally sign have work permits refused.

**heathxxx** · 06-01-2008 14:36

Speaking of this Miles - is the "Top 50 Nations" rule implemented in FM2008, as it is for UK clubs with applications for work permits?

Thought about this given the recent publicity over the Watford player's recent case.

**Miles Jacobson** · 06-01-2008 15:04

heathxxx - It's top 90, isn't it? Rather than top 50? Whatever the rule is, yes, it is in there. It is, of course, possible to win an appeal despite it, in the same way as it is with the international caps one.

**Bongo-Bongo** · 06-01-2008 15:09

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Miles Jacobson:
heathxxx - It's top 90, isn't it? Rather than top 50? Whatever the rule is, yes, it is in there. It is, of course, possible to win an appeal despite it, in the same way as it is with the international caps one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thoght it was top 70.

**Blue Lou** · 06-01-2008 15:10

Top 70

I only know this because of all the press Al Bangura was given.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...89717&&cc=5739

**heathxxx** · 06-01-2008 15:20

Thanks Blue Lou for confirming that one

And thanks Miles for confirming it's in the game

It's the attention to detail like this that make FM by far and above the most enjoyable football game for me.

Now if only I had A military grade super-computer with which to have EVERY league running, just to keep my stat hungry mind going

**eaglealan64** · 07-01-2008 05:34

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now if only I had A military grade super-computer with which to have EVERY league running, just to keep my stat hungry mind going

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I run 75 leagues from 30 countries on an old IBM T41 laptop and it runs OK - have 2gb RAM which is the key thing.

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