SRL88's FM12 Journeyman Career

[SRL88]

So having completed 20 seasons, having got through this many pages in this thread, I would like to thank you all for your dedication to follow me through my career and taking your time out to read it, and also helping get to 24 pages.

Cheers guys, you all deserve an .

[deltablue]

Thanks SRL88

[cerud]

Thanks for going throug these seasons and documenting them so well! Hope it keeps going

[chile_paul]

So having completed 20 seasons, having got through this many pages in this thread, I would like to thank you all for your dedication to follow me through my career and taking your time out to read it, and also helping get to 24 pages.

Cheers guys, you all deserve an .

It has been an absolute pleasure - bring on the next 20 seasons!

[SRL88]

Thanks SRL88

Thanks for going throug these seasons and documenting them so well! Hope it keeps going

It has been an absolute pleasure - bring on the next 20 seasons!

You all bring a tear to my eye .

[JojoVillaHursty]

It's been great so far and will only get better, a part of me doesn't want fm 13 to come but Oxford City need me haha.

NEXT 20 SEASONS FTW!!!

[tomtuck01]

Cheers Tom .

That was my third Champions League trophy of my career. I would like to think that I can achieve number 4 and possibly 5 whilst still at Atletico.

Third? I'm still stuck on one.

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - Season Preview - 2031/32 - Atletico Madrid

Board Expectations:
Liga BBVA: Challenge for the title
Copa Del Rey: Not Important
Champions League: Reach the Semi-Final
European Super Cup: Win it

My Expectations:
Liga BBVA: Toppling Barca is my overall aim of the season
Copa Del Rey: Im not to bothered but if we get to the latter stages I will go all out
Champions League: If we can put together a decent defence of our trophy I will be delighted
European Super Cup: Win it

Budgets:
Transfer: £63m
Wage: £1,628,102 (Currently spending £1,421,502)
Balance: £51,396,459 (-£13,251,343 since last season)

Key Player(s):
Georges Corea - He was signed in January but only made a few appearences due to injury. Hopefully he can stay fit because I would love to see his effect on the team.
Mohammed Gaad - He was awarded 'Signing of the Season' in Spain last year. He was my favourite signing as well so I hope he can have a similar impact.
Ganso - Had a solid 5 month since his signing in January. More of the same please.
Ivan Alonso - Signed on a free from Real Bretis. With Hernan Ojeda getting older we needed someone younger with years ahead of him. I hope this guy can prove be a solid replacement.

[SRL88]

It's been great so far and will only get better, a part of me doesn't want fm 13 to come but Oxford City need me haha.

NEXT 20 SEASONS FTW!!!

I feel the same . I really am enjoying this game more than any previously. I have never got this far into an FM game before.

Third? I'm still stuck on one.

I am 10 years further into the game than you so by the time you get to my stage of the game you will have more .

[tomtuck01]

I am 10 years further into the game than you so by the time you get to my stage of the game you will have more .

Yes, but at the same time I did reach the upper echelons of the footballing world quicker than what you did, so maybe should have delivered atleast one more European Cup.

[SRL88]

Yes, but at the same time I did reach the upper echelons of the footballing world quicker than what you did, so maybe should have delivered atleast one more European Cup.

I have the utmost confidence in you Tom

[SRL88]

Do you guys think I should go back into International Management?

[tomtuck01]

Not for me. Right now you've got enough on your plate trying to conquer Barcelona.

[PaulHartman71]

congrats on the hat-trick of CL's. Agree with tomtuck01, probably best to focus on Athletico Madrid until you're dominating regularly

[SRL88]

Not for me. Right now you've got enough on your plate trying to conquer Barcelona.

congrats on the hat-trick of CL's. Agree with tomtuck01, probably best to focus on Athletico Madrid until you're dominating regularly

Rejected the offer!!!

[deltablue]

Good idea. you'd have some very busy summers with Mexico when you'd probably want to move on to the next club season.

[SRL88]

Good idea. you'd have some very busy summers with Mexico when you'd probably want to move on to the next club season.

I want to go back into International management, but at the minute I dont think its the right time. When I settle properly at Atletico then I will probably do it.

[cerud]

I want to go back into International management, but at the minute I dont think its the right time. When I settle properly at Atletico then I will probably do it.

Probably for the best.

[SRL88]

Ok this was out of the blue!!! I have just said that Im not ready, but this is a little different to Mexico .

[B.W.G]

It's a big nation in football terms and they normally have good talent coming through.If it was me then I would take that job.

[DazRTaylor]

Ok this was out of the blue!!! I have just said that Im not ready, but this is a little different to Mexico .

Take it. I am still with Brazil in my save after four years and have my first World Cup upcoming. Managing Brazil is great fun

[cswalk08]

Congrats on the CL win! Great work for your first year.

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - New Job Update - Brazil

Name: Brazil
Nickname: Selecao
Stadium: Various throughout the country

So I am back into International Management for the first time since I resigned as England manager, and this time I am in charge of Brazil. I was offered the Mexico job but it just wasnt tempting, but this one I just couldnt refuse.

FA Expectations:
World Cup Qualifying: Qualify for the World Cup

My Expectations:
World Cup Qualifying: We have to qualify

[Scarman]

Well done getting the Brazil job, definitely a better choice than Mexico!

[SRL88]

It's a big nation in football terms and they normally have good talent coming through.If it was me then I would take that job.

Take it. I am still with Brazil in my save after four years and have my first World Cup upcoming. Managing Brazil is great fun

Congrats on the CL win! Great work for your first year.

I think I have done you all proud .

Well done getting the Brazil job, definitely a better choice than Mexico!

Cheers Scarman . It was a job I just couldnt refuse in all honesty.

[JackJCFC]

Good luck with Brazil, no doubt they have high expectations so pressures on!

[SRL88]

Good luck with Brazil, no doubt they have high expectations so pressures on!

I couldnt agree more. I will definitely have the pressure on me from day 1 but I am confident I will succeed.

[UDL]

When Brasil come calling you cannot say no to them, may never ask again!

I like managing Brasil, can use some pretty far out tactics and they usually still do well!

[cerud]

Brazil! Well, I'll try and get my Santo André club up to a place where my players can help!

[AK22]

Good luck with Brazil! Win or be sacked, your choice

[deltablue]

Nice surprise there.

[SRL88]

When Brasil come calling you cannot say no to them, may never ask again!

I like managing Brasil, can use some pretty far out tactics and they usually still do well!

Im really looking forward to getting into action with them. Should be fun.

Brazil! Well, I'll try and get my Santo André club up to a place where my players can help!

I have the utmost confidence in you .

Good luck with Brazil! Win or be sacked, your choice

I will take the latter .

Nice surprise there.

Certainly is. If it didnt come up I wouldnt be back in International Management. I was content but you just cant turn Brazil down.

[Nathan Pike]

A lot to catch up on here, so I must admit I've skimmed a lot of it, picking out your achievements, but a truly inspiring career.

[DodgeeD]

Good luck with Brazil - it is a demanding job but should be good for scouting some Brazilians for Atletico

[BadManager]

Brazil. I must admit I didn't see that one coming, but its one of those that you just have to accept if offered (I guess, never been close to being in that position).

Best of luck knocking off the beast that is Barcelona, and taking Brazil to glory.

[SRL88]

A lot to catch up on here, so I must admit I've skimmed a lot of it, picking out your achievements, but a truly inspiring career.

Cheers fella. Glad you're enjoying it .

Good luck with Brazil - it is a demanding job but should be good for scouting some Brazilians for Atletico

Of course!!! I will definitely be on the lookout for some new talent.

Brazil. I must admit I didn't see that one coming, but its one of those that you just have to accept if offered (I guess, never been close to being in that position).

Best of luck knocking off the beast that is Barcelona, and taking Brazil to glory.

Yeah I couldnt turn it down. It was just one of them jobs you have to take.

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - Pre-Season - 2031/32 - Atletico Madrid

Friendlies

An excellent pre-season which included a fantastic 5-1 win over Man Utd as we head into the season full of confidence.

Transfers - In

Federico Bordaberry - £11m - A young defender signed for a pretty big fee, but he is signed as part of the long term project I have planned at Atletico.

Franck Traore - £32m - Signed for a lot of money and equalled our transfer record fee which we set with another signing in the Summer. He might have a few flaws in his stats, but he is young to improve and is on a nice little wage which wont affect us much.

Ivan Alonso - Free - With Ojeda getting older we need a replacement for him, and on a free this guy fits the bill.

Zacharias Chatziloukas - Free - A young Cypriot striker who will have a bright future ahead of him.

Juan - £2m - Signed as a back-up due to the fact that we were in need of a Spanish player.

Predrag Cosis - £5.5m - Had him on loan last season in which he impressed. Well worth the money I spent on the Liverpool man.

Phil Simmons - Free - A young player who is highly rated by everyone at the club. I look forward to working with him.

Santos - £32m - The standout signing of the Summer. I only discovered him due to taking the Brazil job and had to go for him. In the process of signing him we broke our transfer record which I also broke last season.

Transfers - Out

A fair few departures in my rebuild of the squad to try and challenge Barca at the top of the table. I sent a few players out on loan to gain experience this season with the hope they will come back a much improved player. The biggest departure was Alejandro Saavedra who I didnt really want to sell in all honesty, but I needed to get rid of a foreign player to keep with the squad regulations for the season and sadly he was the victim.

[tomtuck01]

Can't believe you took the Brazil job after all that guff about staying out of the international scene for a while!

[rancer890]

Looking good for the upcoming season. Solid results in Luxembourg and South Korea.

Photobucket isn't on maintenance anymore???

[SRL88]

Can't believe you took the Brazil job after all that guff about staying out of the international scene for a while!

Haha I know. I just couldnt help it to be fair. The offer was far to tempting.

Looking good for the upcoming season. Solid results in Luxembourg and South Korea.

Photobucket isn't on maintenance anymore???

Cheers Rancer . I am looking forward to it myself. I think we could do well.

Photobucket??

[SRL88]

A much tougher draw than last season if you ask me, but as defending Champions, we should be looking to get through this group. I am not looking forward to the away days in France and Ukraine though.

[Cleon]

Looks quite a tought group, could be pretty close.

[deltablue]

Wouldn't want to be in Group C, yours looks much better.

[SRL88]

Looks quite a tought group, could be pretty close.

It will be closer than I want it to be, put it that way.

Wouldn't want to be in Group C, yours looks much better.

Yeah Group C looks the toughest overall.

[B.W.G]

Quite a brilliant pre-season.Impressive win over Utd as well.Not too bad a group for you but it sucks to be Sparta Prague right about now

[cerud]

I agree that Group C is the dangergroup. You should qualify in yours though it won't be a walk.

[rancer890]

Lyon will be tough and Shakhtar could spring a surprise or two, but at least you're not in Group C!

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - My First Brazil Squad - Friendlies -v- Morocco & DR Congo

Please note: Positions is based off where I see them best suited to the squad.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Name                | Position       | Club                | Cap(s)  | Goal(s) | Age     | Value   | 
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
| Xaropinho           | GK             | Saint-Etienne       | 0       | 0       | 26      | £2M     | 
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
| Lapa                | GK             | Atlas               | 8       | 0       | 25      | £1M     | 
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
| Bife                | GK             | Dortmund            | 31      | 0       | 25      | £7.25m  | 
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
| Xaxa                | RB             | Fiorentina          | 10      | 1       | 26      | £9m     |
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
| Fabio               | RB             | PSG                 | 11      | 1       | 24      | £19.5m  |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Gustavo             | LB             | Gladbach            | 17      | 0       | 26      | £9.5m   |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Jorginho            | LB             | Barcelona           | 98      | 0       | 32      | £15.5m  |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Martins             | CB             | PSG                 | 29      | 0       | 23      | £8.75m  |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Joao                | CB             | Real Madrid         | 129     | 6       | 31      | £11.5m  |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Oliveira            | CB             | Barcelona           | 15      | 0       | 22      | £12.75m |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Fernando            | CB             | AC Milan            | 81      | 10      | 26      | £22m    |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Jacare              | DM             | Man Utd             | 56      | 2       | 25      | £27.5m  |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Flavio              | DM             | Real Betis          | 14      | 0       | 25      | £16.25m |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Francisquinho       | DM             | Man City            | 20      | 0       | 26      | £15.75m |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Mexilhao            | CM             | At.Madrid           | 67      | 17      | 26      | £19.75m |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Ganso               | CM             | At.Madrid           | 2       | 0       | 22      | £15m    |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Acassio             | RW             | Real Esppor         | 0       | 0       | 19      | £1.3m   |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Lucas               | RW             | At.Madrid           | 0       | 0       | 22      | £9.25m  |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Neto                | LW             | Man Utd             | 21      | 3       | 30      | £21m    |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Chaveirinho         | AM             | Fiorentina          | 2       | 0       | 25      | £12.25m |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Santos              | FW             | At.Madrid           | 0       | 0       | 22      | £31m    |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Celio               | FW             | Liverpool           | 70      | 43      | 26      | £25m    |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Fabricio            | FW             | Porto               | 0       | 0       | 21      | £4.5m   |

As you may have guessed, my squad did bring about a few articles in the press....

[SRL88]

Quite a brilliant pre-season.Impressive win over Utd as well.Not too bad a group for you but it sucks to be Sparta Prague right about now

Cheers fella .

Yeah, it certainly looks as though Sparta have a tough task.

I agree that Group C is the dangergroup. You should qualify in yours though it won't be a walk.

If we remain unbeaten I will be happy .

Lyon will be tough and Shakhtar could spring a surprise or two, but at least you're not in Group C!

Its only away from home that I am truely worried.

[buzz2k7]

That brazil team looks immense!

[SRL88]

That brazil team looks immense!

Yeah its a very solid squad....and I wouldnt say I have called up all the best players either.

[SRL88]

My final signing of the transfer window. A £10m buy from Schalke.

[JackJCFC]

Good luck at the WC

Beyer looks a good signing, i take it he'll be your Right back, he looks at bit short for Centre back!

[SRL88]

Good luck at the WC

Beyer looks a good signing, i take it he'll be your Right back, he looks at bit short for Centre back!

The World Cup is still 3 years away and we need to Qualify .

Yeah Beyer will be a right back. We are move than covered at centre back, both by players at the club and players who are out on loan. Our current right back is in him 30's so I wanted someone younger as his replacement.

[CityAndColour]

Nice signing.

[SRL88]

If there was ever an award for most random thing posted in my thread, this would win .

[Akkarin]

Finally went through this entire thread (wow 24 pages!), congrats on all the achievements so far - you'll have a time of it catching Barca, but should be doable and you've made some very good summer signings!

[SRL88]

Finally went through this entire thread (wow 24 pages!), congrats on all the achievements so far - you'll have a time of it catching Barca, but should be doable and you've made some very good summer signings!

Im glad you went through all the pages fella and Im even more glad that you have enjoyed it .

Catching Barca is definitely the biggest challenge I have had so far in my career but I think we stand a very good chance this season.

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - September 2031 - Brazil

Friendlies

A very disappointing start to life in charge of Brazil. The worst thing is, we played extremely well despite the fact the players were getting used to my tactics, and we also missed a penalty in each game. We dominated Morocco but it was a case of us just not able to find the back of the net. The game against DR Congo was tougher than you think. They are actually in the top 10 of the World Rankings and they gave us a good game. An early goal was key in that game and we just couldnt strike back.

We need to buck our ideas up going into the World Cup Qualifers which start next month with games against Peru (h) and Paraguay (a).

[deltablue]

Bayer's definitely more right-backish anyway.

[tomtuck01]

Results wise, if not performance wise, that is a fairly dreadful start to life with Brazil.

[SRL88]

Bayer's definitely more right-backish anyway.

I wouldnt consider playing him at centre back unless we were truely desperate.

Results wise, if not performance wise, that is a fairly dreadful start to life with Brazil.

I think dreadful is an understatement to be fair. I would use the term sh*t!!!

[AK22]

Congo?

[deltablue]

Can only get better at Brazil.

[SRL88]

Congo?

Yup. I was annoyed with the defeat, but as I said you shouldnt be as shocked as your first thoughts would think because they are pretty high in the World Rankings.

Can only get better at Brazil.

Heyyyyyyyyy a bit of optimism .

[cerud]

Brazil. Giant...crumblers? It can only get better!

[Wlv]

Been reading your career over the past few weeks, just thought I'd let you know its a good read and I'm looking forward to your next update

[Akkarin]

What approach/formation are you taking with Brazil? I've always found them difficult to play, particularly with the marked lack of wingers in the country (though I guess that might have changed by 2031).... Would be interesting to see formation/team instruction screenies

[SRL88]

Brazil. Giant...crumblers? It can only get better!

It has to get better.

Been reading your career over the past few weeks, just thought I'd let you know its a good read and I'm looking forward to your next update

Cheers fella .

The next update isnt to far away. I will have a August/September update up soon.

What approach/formation are you taking with Brazil? I've always found them difficult to play, particularly with the marked lack of wingers in the country (though I guess that might have changed by 2031).... Would be interesting to see formation/team instruction screenies

This is the formation I used for my first two fixtures. I used the formation and team instructions for Liverpool, Galatasaray and currently with Atletico but it obviously didnt work with Brazil. I am going to tinker it a bit.

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - August/September - 2031 - Atletico Madrid

Liga BBVA

An asbolute perfect start to the season which see's us sat nicely at the top of the table after six games. We started with two comfortable wins over Hercules and Osasuna before an early season win over who will most likely be our biggest rivals this season. We were brilliant against Barca and that Champions League win over them last season has clearly given us the indicator that we're on a level playing field and managed to come away with a fantastic 2-1 win. Another brilliant performance against Betis followed resulted in a 3-0 win before we destroyed Levante 5-0. September rounded off with a hard fought win over Gimnastic to give us the best possible start to the season.

[SRL88]

August/September 2031 - Continued

European Super Cup

A poor performance resulted in a disappointing defeat. I have no complaints.

Champions League

Much like in the league, we got off to the perfect start in Europe. In what was a fiery affair in Ukraine, we came away with a brilliant 2-0 win before destroying Aberdeen 5-0 at home to leave us sat at the top of the group.

[tomtuck01]

Great start to the campaign dude - with the exception of the Super Cup!

[buzz2k7]

Santos looks like a great signing so far , well worth the 32 million

[Lovejoy!]

an amazing read, mate. has inspired me to do a similar thing

[JackJCFC]

Unlucky start with Brazil, looks likes the pressures on! Still going strong with Athletico though.

[SRL88]

Great start to the campaign dude - with the exception of the Super Cup!

Yeah the Super Cup was a shame as I would have liked to lift it, but we were poor. I think I sent the lads out with the wrong mindset.

Santos looks like a great signing so far , well worth the 32 million

Agreed . He has been absolutely fantastic for me so far.

an amazing read, mate. has inspired me to do a similar thing

Cheers fella . If you get a thread going I will definitely follow.

Unlucky start with Brazil, looks likes the pressures on! Still going strong with Athletico though.

Yeah it has been a pretty shocking start. Hopefully we can put it behind us with a strong start to World Cup Qualifying.

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - October 2031 - Brazil

World Cup Qualifiers

Much, much better!!! I tweaked my tactics somewhat and it worked completely. We dominated possession without giving any real chances away to be honest. This is more like the Brazil I want. Yes we had to rely on two own-goals against Peru but we still deserved victory. The win against Paraguay wasnt as close as it looks. They only had four shots at goal to our twenty. After making a couple of changes and putting Liverpool's Celio upfront instead of just off the front man he changed the game. He scored the decisive goal to get us off to an excellent start to our qualifying campaign.

We have two games in November to round the year off against Bolivia (h) and Ecuador (a). I will be looking for maximum points in each.

[tomtuck01]

Good start to the proper stuff with Brazil.

[SRL88]

Good start to the proper stuff with Brazil.

Cheers Tom . I am much happier now.

[deltablue]

Great start in the league, not the toughest opening games in the qualifiers.

[SRL88]

Great start in the league, not the toughest opening games in the qualifiers.

Not the toughest, but two much needed wins after the friendlies before it.

[Akkarin]

Great improvement with Brazil - I would have said sitting deeper and hitting on the counter, but clearly you found a different formula that works. Congrats on beating Barca (again) and sitting pretty at the top.

[cerud]

Nice! That's how you do it in Brazil

[B.W.G]

Excellent start to the season bar the defeat to Sampdoria,nice to see things have picked up for Brazil as well

[Scarman]

Great start to the new season! Those first couple of results with Brazil were shocking, but we can ignore them now the real stuff has started

[SRL88]

Great improvement with Brazil - I would have said sitting deeper and hitting on the counter, but clearly you found a different formula that works. Congrats on beating Barca (again) and sitting pretty at the top.

Im not one for adopting a counter attacking side to be honest. I did it in my earlier years of my career because I had to really, but once I got to Blackpool I started to play more expressive football.

Nice! That's how you do it in Brazil

It is indeed. Cheers .

Excellent start to the season bar the defeat to Sampdoria,nice to see things have picked up for Brazil as well

Yeah the Sampdoria game was a low because of how poor we were, but I can look past that now with how well things are.

Great start to the new season! Those first couple of results with Brazil were shocking, but we can ignore them now the real stuff has started

Alright rub it in!!! ha.

[JackJCFC]

Great start to World Cup qualifying, hope you can keep it up!

[SRL88]

Great start to World Cup qualifying, hope you can keep it up!

Cheers Jack .

[SRL88]

SRL88's Career - October - 2031 - Atletico Madrid

Liga BBVA

A decent month which saw us claim two solid wins over Real Sociedad and Grenada, but sadly our fantastic start to the season came to an end thanks to a last minute goal away to Malaga. We played really well but they hit us on the counter attack to grab the winning goal.

[SRL88]

October 2031 - Continued

Copa Del Rey 4th Round 1st Leg

A very solid start in the Copa Del Rey. We hold a nice lead going into the return leg and are practically through to the next round.

Champions League

A perfect performance in France saw us come away with a brilliant win to put us on the brink of qualifying for the Knockout Stages. In what is a very tough group on paper we have performed so well to put us in such an excellent position.

[tomtuck01]

Going along well in the league, despite the loss against Malaga. Also excellent start in the Champions League.

[JackJCFC]

Very close in the league but its good to see you giving Barca a run for their money. Making that CL group look easy too, great work.

[B.W.G]

Close in the league but hopefully you can topple Barca,doing well in the other competitions as well.

[Cardiomolester]

Broke my heart a little seeing you smash Aberdeen you have also inspired me too get a journeyman career going. Well done sir

[cswalk08]

Great work so far this season!

How is Shakhtar ahead of OL in the Group since OL has a higher GD and they drew eachother?

[cerud]

Good job in the Champions League. Making it look easy

[SRL88]

Going along well in the league, despite the loss against Malaga. Also excellent start in the Champions League.

Yeah the Malaga result was a bit of a kick in the teeth, especially after our fantastic start. I suppose it had to happen sometime though.

Very close in the league but its good to see you giving Barca a run for their money. Making that CL group look easy too, great work.

They like to score goals do this Barca team. Luckily enough it goes on head to head in Spain ha.

Close in the league but hopefully you can topple Barca,doing well in the other competitions as well.

Cheers fella.

Broke my heart a little seeing you smash Aberdeen you have also inspired me too get a journeyman career going. Well done sir

Haha. Im sorry sir!!!

Glad to know that you have enjoyed it. Its always nice to know that people enjoy my thread so much.

Great work so far this season!

How is Shakhtar ahead of OL in the Group since OL has a higher GD and they drew eachother?

Cheers.

Im not 100% sure to be perfectly honest because they drew with each other and I beat them both (Shakhtar by a bigger scoreline as well). That is one I really cant answer off the top of my head.

Good job in the Champions League. Making it look easy

Cheers cerud. I am pleasently surprised that we have got the first three fixtures out the way so well. Especially with us playing Shakhtar and Lyon away from home.

[deltablue]

Very good so far on both fronts.

[SRL88]

Very good so far on both fronts.

Cheers delta .

[SRL88]

I aim to get back on my save tonight guys. I would have yesterday, but I was teaching tennis all day and actually played quite a few proper games with the kids at the school I teach at and I was goosed. Couldnt be arsed to move when I got in ha.