Over Land and Sea

**Barney Butterball** · 23-10-2011 23:35

Over Land and Sea - A Dean Ashton Career

Born: 24th November 1983
Playing Career: Crewe, Norwich and West Ham
Honours: Division 2 runner up 2002/03 [Crewe], FA Cup runner up 2006 [West Ham]

Current Jobs:

England

Bloemfontein Celtic

Trophy Cabinet:

EC Santo André:

Campeonato Brasileiro Série C winners - 2011

Beijing Guo'an:

Pirelli Chinese Super League winners - 2017, 2018
CSL All-Star Game winners - 2017, 2018
Chinese Super Cup winners - 2018
AFC Champions League winners - 2018
CFA Cup winners - 2018

Manchester City:

FA Cup winners - 2020, 2021
UEFA Champions League winners - 2020, 2023
Community Shield winners - 2020, 2021, 2022
UEFA Super Cup winners - 2020, 2023
FIFA Club World Cup winners - 2020, 2023
Carling Cup winners - 2021, 2022, 2023
Barclays Premier League winners - 2022, 2024

Vancouver Whitecaps

MLS Cup winners - 2025
Nutrilite Canadian Championship winners - 2027

SC Corinthians

Campeonato Paulista Série A1 winners - 2029
Copa Santander Libertadores winners - 2029

Bloemfontein Celtic

MTN 8 Cup winners - 2030

Teams Managed:

EC Santo André 2011 - 2014 Resigned
Bristol City 2014 - 2015 Resigned
Sampdoria 2015 - 2016 Sacked
Beijing Guo'an 2016 - 2019 Resigned
Manchester City 2019 - 2024 Resigned
China 2020 - 2021 Resigned
Brazil 2021 - 2022 Sacked
England 2022 - 2024 Sacked
Vancouver Whitecaps 2024 - 2028 Resigned
England 2026 - Current
SC Corinthians 2028 - 2029 Resigned
Bloemfontein Celtic 2029 - Current

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 01:34

Job Offers:

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 01:40

Job Offers:

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 01:45

Job Offers:

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 01:49

Job accepted:

Background Information on Santo André:

**iseemonsters1** · 24-10-2011 02:33

Interesting idea for a thread.

Good luck in Brazil - you should compare Santo Andre notes with Rancer!

**rancer890** · 24-10-2011 02:41

Good luck with Santo André mate. For tips to succeed with that club, you can always look at my thread.

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 03:32

Originally Posted by rancer890

Good luck with Santo André mate. For tips to succeed with that club, you can always look at my thread.

I'll have a read thanks rancer

**Jason the Yank** · 24-10-2011 03:38

How did you got offered U23 jobs straight away?

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 03:45

July 2011:

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 03:48

Originally Posted by Jason the Yank

How did you got offered U23 jobs straight away?

Not 100% sure, I was never going to take them anyway.

I got offered, Brunei U23s

as well.

**danielgear** · 24-10-2011 12:14

Good Luck with this, I'll be bookmarking it

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 17:11

August 2011

Still undefeated but we need to start killing off the opposition.

**Barney Butterball** · 24-10-2011 22:15

September 2011

The final two group games in the first stage of the Campeonato Brasileiro Série C we had already qualified for the next stage.

2nd Round draw

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 00:34

I haven't laughed so much at Football Manager before

UNTIL NOW

Real Headline

The man himself

**iseemonsters1** · 25-10-2011 00:34

Good luck in the next stage!

I think I might have been unable to resist the temptation of managing Brunei U-23s - just to be able to say that I had.

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 01:01

Originally Posted by iseemonsters1

Good luck in the next stage!

I think I might have been unable to resist the temptation of managing Brunei U-23s - just to be able to say that I had.

One day maybe

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 01:12

Campeonato Brasileiro Série C 2nd Stage:

**rancer890** · 25-10-2011 01:27

Congratz mate on getting promotion.

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 02:46

Originally Posted by rancer890

Congratz mate on getting promotion.

Thanks rancer

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 02:53

Campeonato Brasileiro Série C Final

1st Leg

2nd Leg

**iseemonsters1** · 25-10-2011 03:31

Nice work! Congrats!!

Might be a bit early to ask this, but what do you think your chances are of staying up next season?

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 03:56

Originally Posted by iseemonsters1

Nice work! Congrats!!

Might be a bit early to ask this, but what do you think your chances are of staying up next season?

The squads made up of quite a few loan players, I've sent a few back hoping to replace them with free transfers, but with debts of 750k it's going to be a tough ask.
If we can get off to a good start and and stay injury free we might just have a chance.

**psychonaut** · 25-10-2011 04:24

Well done on promotion. As for that manager's name - i just spat coffee all over my desk. I tried typing his name into Google, and all I got was search results about repairmen, tight bodies, etc.

Good luck for the new season!

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 05:10

Season Review 2011

Transfers:

Squad:

Best 11:

Fans player of the year:

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 05:16

Brazilian Season Review 2011:

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 05:45

Start of season expectations 2012

Contract extension:

Club Information:

EC Santo André

Nation: Brazil
Year Founded: 1967
Status: Professional
Reputation: National
Nickname: Ramalháo
Chairman Status: Loves the club
Legends: None
Icons: Sandro Gaúcho, Jorginho
Favoured Personnel: Luiz Carlos Ferreira, Sérgio Soares
Fierce Rivals: None
Other Rivals: Sáo Caetano, Bragantino, Ituano, Marilia, Paulista
Finances: Okay
Average Ticket Price: £6.40
Average Season Ticket Price: £0.00
Season Ticket Holders: 0
Estimated Value: £950K (Loan Debt: £130K)
Continental Competition: None
Media Prediction: 12th
Squad Personality: Determined
Captain: Chiquinho
Vice-Captain: William Martins

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 15:08

Pre season 2012:

Season Odds:

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 15:09

Major signing:

**Barney Butterball** · 25-10-2011 15:48

First game of the season:

What a start, lets hope we can build on this

**danielgear** · 26-10-2011 00:28

Nice Signing!

**Barney Butterball** · 26-10-2011 00:42

11 games into the Campeonato Paulista Série A1

Good start to the season, but it's now taking it's toll. Games are coming thick and fast, my players don't seem to have the energy.

**Barney Butterball** · 26-10-2011 00:43

Originally Posted by danielgear

Nice Signing!

Thanks, has been a rock for me so far, but his old legs give up very easily.

**Barney Butterball** · 26-10-2011 23:38

Campeonato Paulista Série A1 run in

The tried legs came back to haunt us, we were shocking but the big worry is zero goals in five games.
With the start of Serie B after this comp I'm hoping the break will do us good.

**Jason the Yank** · 27-10-2011 06:21

Originally Posted by Barney Butterball

Thanks, has been a rock for me so far, but his old legs give up very easily.

Hopefully you're making a mint off of shirt sales.

**Barney Butterball** · 27-10-2011 23:10

Originally Posted by Jason the Yank

Hopefully you're making a mint off of shirt sales.

Far from it, I'm in more debt than the Eurozone

**Barney Butterball** · 27-10-2011 23:21

Campeonato Brasileiro Série B halfway point 2012

It wasn't the best of starts for us, as stated earlier the tired legs were hunting us, after some wheeling and dealing in the transfer market, things have started to pick up.
Our media prediction was 12th, so I'm happy so far. He comes another long 19 games.

More updates to follow....

**Barney Butterball** · 27-10-2011 23:30

Campeonato Brasileiro Série B halfway point 2012

Finances:

Star Player:

If it wasn't for my goalkeeper we would be in a whole heap of trouble

Stadium news:

Something to look forward to, if I'm still around that is.

Transfers:

**rancer890** · 28-10-2011 00:53

Barney, you're trying to build your squad a lot lot different than the way I'm building Santo André. And your players seem to be better than mine...

BTW, how much money did it take you to buy the stadium?

**Barney Butterball** · 28-10-2011 02:02

Originally Posted by rancer890

Barney, you're trying to build your squad a lot lot different than the way I'm building Santo André. And your players seem to be better than mine...

BTW, how much money did it take you to buy the stadium?

Rancer trust me there not.

, I'm in meltdown, 1.5m in debt, with regards to the stadium no figure has been quoted yet. Where the post states "Assuming everything goes to plan" I have no money so I can see this falling through.

I'm finding it really difficult to score. Rivaldo has scored 8 in 31, I signed Nando from Mogi Mirim [Rivaldo told me to

] he has been plan awful.
My main goal now is to slash the wage bill and try and re-build with youth.

**iseemonsters1** · 28-10-2011 02:56

I'm a little behind but congrats on the Corinthians result. Shame you tailed off towards the end. Looks like you're on the road to survival in Serie B which isn't bad for your first season in the division!

Rivaldo looks like he still has the skills, even if he doesn't have the legs any more.

**rancer890** · 28-10-2011 03:08

Originally Posted by Barney Butterball

Rancer trust me there not.

, I'm in meltdown, 1.5m in debt, with regards to the stadium no figure has been quoted yet. Where the post states "Assuming everything goes to plan" I have no money so I can see this falling through.

I'm finding it really difficult to score. Rivaldo has scored 8 in 31, I signed Nando from Mogi Mirim [Rivaldo told me to

] he has been plan awful.
My main goal now is to slash the wage bill and try and re-build with youth.

I tried the buying stadium and the board agreed for me too (for now

)

I had trouble scoring initially in Serie B but I've seemed to have gotten the hang of things at this level. You just need a lot of players for the long season.

Don't worry about debt too much during the season. You're bound to lose money. Just keep winning and the rest will take care of itself....

**Barney Butterball** · 28-10-2011 03:56

Originally Posted by rancer890

I tried the buying stadium and the board agreed for me too (for now

)

I had trouble scoring initially in Serie B but I've seemed to have gotten the hang of things at this level. You just need a lot of players for the long season.

Don't worry about debt too much during the season. You're bound to lose money. Just keep winning and the rest will take care of itself....

Winning

The sack beckons for me.

**danielgear** · 28-10-2011 04:07

Originally Posted by Barney Butterball

Winning

The sack beckons for me.

You had the dreaded vote of confidence?

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 00:18

Campeonato Brasileiro Série B 2012

The Pain is finally over, we didn't do as well as I would of hoped but there's always next season. Time for a mass over hall quite a few players are leaving / retiring.

More to Follow....

**rancer890** · 29-10-2011 00:30

Barney how reliant are you on loans?

At least you survived mate. Once you find that scoring touch you will certainly move up the table.

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 00:35

2012 Team and Squad news:

Stadium News:

Player News:

A sad day for us all.

The re-build starts now, I've only 16 squad players and a few of them are waiting to be sold.

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 00:37

Originally Posted by rancer890

Barney how reliant are you on loans?

At least you survived mate. Once you find that scoring touch you will certainly move up the table.

I signed quite a few on loan, but the ones that wanted to come wasn't any better than the squad I already had. I've worked out where we were failing and after a few tactic tweeks next season will be one to remember

**iseemonsters1** · 29-10-2011 00:40

Oh well, survival is survival. Time to unearth some hidden Brazilian gems!

**rancer890** · 29-10-2011 00:54

I just resigned Alemao on my team....

Now good luck with the rebuild..mind you don't have so much time because the State Championships are right around the corner!

**B.W.G** · 29-10-2011 00:57

You've done well so far and you survived relegation which is the most important thing.Good luck with the rebuilding and hope you can push on in the next season

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 01:13

Originally Posted by iseemonsters1

Oh well, survival is survival. Time to unearth some hidden Brazilian gems!

I've got a really good looking kid [15] that has just come through. He's going to get some play time next season.

**danielgear** · 29-10-2011 01:17

Originally Posted by Barney Butterball

I've got a really good looking kid [15] that has just come through. He's going to get some play time next season.

Good looking eh

brazil is a hotbed for young talent

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 01:20

Originally Posted by danielgear

Good looking eh

brazil is a hotbed for young talent

It sounded so wrong when I was typing it.

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 01:28

Start of season expectations 2013

Title odds:

100/1 I'll have some of that

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 15:27

Campeonato Paulista Série A1

10 games in:

A great start after 10 games, even with the club in tatters.

**Barney Butterball** · 29-10-2011 15:41

Copa Kia do Brasil 2013

1st Rnd 1st Leg

1st Rnd 2nd Leg

Better luck next season

**danielgear** · 29-10-2011 17:15

not a bad start to season barney considering you lost alot of players

**Barney Butterball** · 30-10-2011 14:33

Campeonato Paulista Série A1

Notable Result:

What an achievement, I've only got 15 first team players, and a few youth. With no money I'm unable to re-build. Many games I've played this season has
resulted in playing players out of position.

**Barney Butterball** · 30-10-2011 14:39

Campeonato Paulista Série A1

In other news:

**deltablue** · 30-10-2011 15:06

Solid results there.

**danielgear** · 30-10-2011 21:47

Wow top performance to finish in that postion

**Barney Butterball** · 31-10-2011 15:15

Campeonato Brasileiro Série B 2013

Transfers so far:

**Barney Butterball** · 31-10-2011 15:17

Other News:

**AK22** · 31-10-2011 21:20

Looking good for a promotion push

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 00:14

Campeonato Brasileiro Série B 2013

11 games to go.

**rancer890** · 01-11-2011 00:43

Keep it up Barney! 20 wins and you're in the top flight!

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 03:51

BREAKING NEWS

More to follow....

**deltablue** · 01-11-2011 08:37

Great promotion

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 10:12

Campeonato Brasileiro Série B 2013

Full season review to follow

**danielgear** · 01-11-2011 11:15

well done barney

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 12:46

Season Review 2013

Manager of the year

Best 11

More to follow...

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 13:11

Season Review 2013

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 13:16

Season Review 2013

**rancer890** · 01-11-2011 14:36

Great work Barney on promotion and good luck in the top flight. The $10 million+ (USD) tv revenue means you won't be losing money for the upcoming season at least.

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 20:08

Start of season expectations 2014

Title Odds:

Other news for 2014

**Barney Butterball** · 01-11-2011 23:12

Campeonato Paulista Série A1 2014

Not the best of starts but still in a strong position to make the 1/4 finals.

Other News:

**Barney Butterball** · 02-11-2011 15:03

Copa Kia do Brasil 2014

1st Rnd 1st Leg

1st Rnd 2nd Leg

Must be a glitch, there wasn't one.

2nd Rnd 1st Leg

2nd Rnd 2nd Leg

Terrible, knocked out by a side that's 2 leagues below us.

**Barney Butterball** · 02-11-2011 20:30

Campeonato Paulista Série A1 2014

**Barney Butterball** · 02-11-2011 21:13

Campeonato Paulista Série A1 2014

1/4 finals

Once again we fall at the 1/4 finals, I feel we will struggle this season, unless I can work wonders in the transfer market.

**rancer890** · 02-11-2011 22:05

Hope you can do as good as I'm doing in Serie A atm, if not better...

**Barney Butterball** · 02-11-2011 22:53

Originally Posted by rancer890

Hope you can do as good as I'm doing in Serie A atm, if not better...

Does that mean your doing well

**rancer890** · 03-11-2011 00:11

Originally Posted by Barney Butterball

Does that mean your doing well

Quite the opposite mate! I never yelled at a computer screen this much before!

**Barney Butterball** · 03-11-2011 00:17

Originally Posted by rancer890

Quite the opposite mate! I never yelled at a computer screen this much before!

Can I quit now. Played 1 Won 1

**Barney Butterball** · 04-11-2011 22:40

Campeonato Petrobras Brasileiro da Série A 2014

**Barney Butterball** · 04-11-2011 22:42

Campeonato Petrobras Brasileiro da Série A 2014

Bad Times:

No words can describe how I feel.

**Barney Butterball** · 04-11-2011 23:37

Santo André

More to follow on this major news.

**iseemonsters1** · 04-11-2011 23:45

Oh dear...

You did a great job to get them into the top division though and I'm sure you'll bounce back with a new job somewhere exciting!

Looking forward to seeing where you end up.

**Barney Butterball** · 04-11-2011 23:48

BREAKING NEWS

Job Offer

After 3 great years in Brazil, I thought it was time for a change, but I must stress that my work is not finished out there.

England here I come.

**rancer890** · 05-11-2011 00:03

Unfortunate Barney that you had to leave Brazil but good luck with Bristol City. You are certainly in a more familiar country and league structure.

**Barney Butterball** · 05-11-2011 00:43

Bristol City

A key factor for leaving Brazil was that Bristol City are in the Prem

**danielgear** · 05-11-2011 10:09

yes barney!! look after my team

**abulezz** · 05-11-2011 10:13

Good luck! In my save Bristol City have just hired the first computer generated manager

**Barney Butterball** · 05-11-2011 12:49

Carling Cup 2014/15

2nd Round

**Barney Butterball** · 05-11-2011 15:44

Job offer

Thanks, but no thanks

**Barney Butterball** · 06-11-2011 09:54

Barclays Premier League 2014/15

Notable Result

**Barney Butterball** · 06-11-2011 09:56

Manager of the month

**Barney Butterball** · 06-11-2011 14:04

Chelsea

Is this a sick joke

Glenn Roeder the bookies favourite

**Barney Butterball** · 06-11-2011 16:06

FA Cup 2014/15

Both cups knocked out of at the first stage, not happy but staying in this division is a must.

**Barney Butterball** · 06-11-2011 16:18

January Transfer window 2015

2 major signings have been brought in on loan in an attempt to push us up the table.

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