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    Default From Young Men to World Beaters




    I tried to find some great background information about this club, but I really couldn't. Bourneview Young Men is a club based in Portadown, County Armagh who were recently promoted from the Northern Irish Intermediate A Division.

    Club Profile - the badge and stadium say it all, this is a tiny club.

    Squad - literally a bunch of amateurs. I'll be looking to clear them out and replace them as soon as possible.

    Finances - things look alright, but I have a tendency to ruin the finances of a club in the early years.

    Facilities - we pretty much have nothing.


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    I've only loaded the Northern Irish leagues (down to the lowest division), but I've added players from top clubs, internationals and national reputation to bump up the database without giving too much bias to any particular league/country. This has given me a database of 44000 players and I'll consider adding more leagues if I start spotting gaps in this later on during my career.

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    The last time I tried a game like this was with FM08, which didn't end too well. What I'm really hoping for is a long term game that will really test out the dynamic league reputation, but I imagine the first few years will be a struggle. Although I will be using all of the features for the first season or two, I'll be looking to cut down (press conferences and 3D match) in order to speed up my game. What I'm really hoping for is a game where I can get through the seasons quickly, so the updates will be pretty concise.

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    Sounds like a good idea.

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    Good luck dafuge!

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    Good luck bet this will be a great read.

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    good luck mate. will be following

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    Ah I remember the Sirocco Works days, hopefully the league rep system will change things this time. Out of interest, why didn't you do this as part of Gundo's challenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saab693 View Post
    Ah I remember the Sirocco Works days, hopefully the league rep system will change things this time. Out of interest, why didn't you do this as part of Gundo's challenge?
    I really wanted Sirocco Works, but I think they were in the league below.

    Two reasons really. Firstly, I wanted to bump up the database to give me more players and secondly I'm trying to cut down my forum time (due to work etc.) so I decided against duplicating the posts.

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    btw dafuge, are you bald and mean looking IRL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadfncat View Post
    btw dafuge, are you bald and mean looking IRL?
    Sort of. I have very short hair (out of choice), not that mean looking though.

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    Daf - If you really want to test DLR, surely you ought to load the top divisions of other leagues, to allow them to progress alongside you - even if they are on view-only?

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    Looks like you've got a blank canvas to do what you want with. Should be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
    Daf - If you really want to test DLR, surely you ought to load the top divisions of other leagues, to allow them to progress alongside you - even if they are on view-only?
    I may well add some later on if I need to. It's going to be a long time before I could potentially affect the reputation of NI, so for now I don't really need them.

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    Looking forward to seeing how this progresses. I love one-club careers in small countries and even more so with your tendency to develop players from your academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanista1994 View Post
    Looking forward to seeing how this progresses. I love one-club careers in small countries and even more so with your tendency to develop players from your academy.
    That's something that I may go into later on, but I have a feeling that I'm going to relying on foreign signings for many years!

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    Awesome seeing someone as successful as dafuge with FM, take on N.Ireland. Think I'll check in regularly at least just to pick up the odd tip for my own career. ;)

    Good luck.

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    Good luck! Hopefully we'll see another Knockbreda

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuge View Post
    It's going to be a long time before I could potentially affect the reputation of NI.
    I disagree,so we'll see what we'll see.....won't we.

    And what's with the question mark in the title? Having followed your escapades over the years there's not really any doubt they will become world beaters. Good luck dafuge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordan View Post
    And what's with the question mark in the title? Having followed your escapades over the years there's not really any doubt they will become world beaters. Good luck dafuge.
    I'm hoping that one day I can remove that question mark

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    I'm sure this will be a great read, as always! Looking forward to following your progress.

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    I'm sure this will be yet another monster thread. Look forward to it

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    Nice to see you made your own emblem on MS paint. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio_Biscuits View Post
    Nice to see you made your own emblem on MS paint. ;)
    Graphics aren't our strong point ;)

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    Good luck with this dafuge. After a couple of seasons of journeyman saves, I've also been twmpted back to a one-club career. I think I missed the feeling of having built up a team all by myself as well as the chance to develop a youngster right from thier youth intake beginnings to the end of their career.

    I'll do a journeyman once my challenge career is over though ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DodgeeD View Post
    Good luck with this dafuge. After a couple of seasons of journeyman saves, I've also been tempted back to a one-club career. I think I missed the feeling of having built up a team all by myself as well as the chance to develop a youngster right from thier youth intake beginnings to the end of their career.
    That's exactly what I missed with FM11, I'm looking forward to making a club my own and hopefully seeing some player careers in full.

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    I can see myself missing that on my save this year, but then there's nothing stopping me settling down at a single club for a long time if I want to, so could always do that if I like.

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    Bourneview Young Men - Championship Two - 2012/13

    The aim for this season was to start building a squad of young players who could take this club forward over the next few years.

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    It was embarrssingly easy, with just the one defeat, 3-1 to Ballyclare.

    Mid-Ulster Cup - I started rotating the squad in this local cup, but after beating Premiership Newry we found ourselves in the final, which we won.

    Intermediate Cup - another low profile cup and another cup win for us.

    Irish League Cup - this was more important, but we fell at the first hurdle.

    Irish Cup - this is the big one, with a place in Europe at stake. We were going well but got outplayed by Premiership opposition in the semi final.

    Squad - it is still a work in progress, but these players are far too good for this league. I think this squad could do well in the top flight.

    Transfers - I started off bringing in a lot of foreigners, but as my scouts got going I found some great players a bit closer to home.

    Finances - despite staying within my wage budget, I've racked up quite a debt. A £65k player sale will help, but there might need to be more sales.


    Key Player Profiles:

    Paul Muir - he started slowly but is looking like a great signing.

    Darjan Mevlja - he was ripping the league apart at the age of 15 but then suffered a bad injury. I hope he recovers.

    Johannes Westo - the creative force in my midfield.

    Nathan Baker - a new signing who could be my best player.

    Sandro Veladzic - one of my first signings who does well when picked.


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    2012/13   Championship Two         1st         League, Mid-Ulster and Intermediate Cup winners
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    This season was a bit of a surprise, so I'm looking forward to playing against some better opposition in the league next year. While the two cup wins were great, we actually made a small loss on each one due to the bonuses and the prize money, I think next season I will rest players in both of the smaller cup competitions.

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    Too easy, the question mark in the title can be taken away already. ;) Great players you have there for that level, no wonder you absolutely destroyed that league.

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    wow dafuge smashing everything in sight. Why did I expect different?

    Good job mate

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    Oh well, that didn't take long did it!

    Did the board allow you to scout Scandinavia already or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeXe View Post
    Oh well, that didn't take long did it!

    Did the board allow you to scout Scandinavia already or something?
    No, just the UK and Ireland, the foreigners were brought in on trial to get reports on them.

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    Well done on your cups and promotion.

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    Well done dafuge. That was easy for you!

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    So much for the early struggle Daf.

    Well done on a fine season! The first of many great ones, I hope!

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    It was a bit easier than I expected, which was a shame really. If I was able to pick up great players on free transfers, why aren't the other teams?

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    Other sides don't tend to look outside what their scouts and assistant directly recommend to them I don't think, so if you're manually casting your net further afield you're bound to find much better options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeXe View Post
    Other sides don't tend to look outside what their scouts and assistant directly recommend to them I don't think, so if you're manually casting your net further afield you're bound to find much better options.
    I suppose so. Although, the best players I've signed have been Scottish, where every team is able to scout.

    I shouldn't really be complaining though

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    Brilliant first season. Think I'm going to try a similar game in Northern Ireland, only really like playing with one club and I've played a Charlton game on the last couple of versions.

    What date is season update day in Northern Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoham View Post
    Brilliant first season. Think I'm going to try a similar game in Northern Ireland, only really like playing with one club and I've played a Charlton game on the last couple of versions.

    What date is season update day in Northern Ireland?
    It's the 19th June (so save on the 18th).

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    Thanks

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    Easy just pure easy. well done.

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    Jesus that was a great first season. Immediately noticing the majority of your best players don't even have high determination - something I've (obviously foolishly) always assumed was necessary in the lower levels.

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    I like the two Slovenians in your team . Good luck in the next season, placing a bet on you winning it personally.

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    Mevlja had a quality season. 32 goals in 26 appearances at 15/16 - that's crazy

    Also £1 p/w - surely that's child abuse ;)

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    That's his pocket money to buy Freddos from the corner shop at half time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeXe View Post
    That's his pocket money to buy Freddos from the corner shop at half time.
    That's not fair as he can only buy one.

    Great first season dafuge .

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    ahhhhh we start again dafuge. Looking forward to reading this

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    Season 1 total domination - check

    Impressive even if easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o JaY View Post
    Mevlja had a quality season. 32 goals in 26 appearances at 15/16 - that's crazy

    Also £1 p/w - surely that's child abuse ;)
    He's still on a youth contract, but will be getting a 10000% pay rise on his 17th birthday

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    Amazing Start. Cant wait to see how Mevlja progresses, he looks like a star in the making.

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    Mevlja has gotta be a candidate for the Danny Roberts challenge with that kind of start

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    Good luck dafuge, an inspiration to us all!

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    Amazing first season there daf

    Just out of interest, when signing your players, do you go by the assistants reports on the level they could play at, or do you just look at the attributes of the players?

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    Bourneview Young Men - Championship One - 2013/14

    After destroying the third tier of Northern Irish football, it was time for my squad to step up a level. With the nature of our win last season, I was hoping for more of the same.

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    It was a repeat of last season, we were just too good for them. Bit annoying to lose the one game though.

    Mid-Ulster Cup - I really wasn't interested in this competition, but despite rotating the team we found ourselves winning it again.

    Intermediate Cup - another meaningless competition, but it brought a shock.

    Irish League Cup - I wanted to do well in this one, but suffered another shock defeat.

    Irish Cup - the draw against Cliftonville set us on our way to a fantastic cup run, which ended in a fairly simple final. This win means we will be in the Europa League next season.

    Squad - an early injury crisis meant I had to go out and sign more players and I've ended up with a superb squad.

    Transfers - an influx of Brazilians and Eastern Europeans made a huge difference to my squad, along with a couple of great English players.

    Finances - the finances are awful, but with European football not far away we have a chance to sort it out.


    Key Player Profiles:

    Paul Muir - another great season from the striker.

    Reginaldo - a great first season from the new striker.

    Darjan Mevlja - he's starting to get left behind, but he's still doing well.

    Theophilus Ekoku - Westo suffered a bad injury, so he was brought in.

    Liam Gormley - plenty of assists from the winger.


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    2012/13   Championship Two         1st         League, Mid-Ulster and Intermediate Cup winners
    2013/14   Championship One         1st         League, Mid-Ulster and Irish Cup winners
    Next Season

    This was another stupidly easy season, I'm wondering if the Premiership will provide some better competition? Hopefully the Europa league will give us a good test and bring us back down to earth, we are a bunch of part timers after all.

    One big concern I have is that I cannot afford to renew the contracts of the players I have, I'm a victim of my own success. Unfortunately this might mean the squad will need rebuilding almost completely next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattSpurs94 View Post
    Amazing first season there daf

    Just out of interest, when signing your players, do you go by the assistants reports on the level they could play at, or do you just look at the attributes of the players?
    I always go by the scout/coach reports, I barely look at the attributes unless I've got a choice between two or more players.

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    Great work daf. I dare say you won't be challenged at all except in Europe.

    Are you still following your old approach of getting scout reports for all players that pop up in your player search screen? How many scouts do you have and how long is it taking to return all the results?

    KUTGW

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    Quote Originally Posted by saab600 View Post
    Great work daf. I dare say you won't be challenged at all except in Europe.

    Are you still following your old approach of getting scout reports for all players that pop up in your player search screen? How many scouts do you have and how long is it taking to return all the results?

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    I only have a handful of scouts, so I'm focusing them on getting reports on unattached under 21 players in the UK & Ireland. For the players outside of the UK/Ireland I tend to offer trials to the ones my assistant thinks are unrealistic signings.

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    Makes sense! Still working on the premise of finding players with (at least) 2.5 stars CA and (at least) 4.5 stars PA?

    The only issue I've found with your approach is that it can take a while to find quality players. In the meantime, my team can be suffering in the league which is why I tend to rely upon the players recommended by my Ass man, by backroom staff and the players the scouts actually find themselves. Do you have a method you use to get players in quickly, just to get a base layer of quality whilst you gather scout reports on all your other potential targets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saab600 View Post
    Makes sense! Still working on the premise of finding players with (at least) 2.5 stars CA and (at least) 4.5 stars PA?

    The only issue I've found with your approach is that it can take a while to find quality players. In the meantime, my team can be suffering in the league which is why I tend to rely upon the players recommended by my Ass man, by backroom staff and the players the scouts actually find themselves. Do you have a method you use to get players in quickly, just to get a base layer of quality whilst you gather scout reports on all your other potential targets?
    The stars really change depending on the club I'm managing, a lot of the players I've signed were 5/5 on the scout reports, but a bit lower than that once they were at the club.

    I use the trials to get players in quickly, then slowly replace them with better players found by my scouts. This might explain why my team was full of foreigners at the start but slowly became more british towards the end of the season.

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    That's interesting. How were you finding the trial players then? By attribute search?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saab693 View Post
    That's interesting. How were you finding the trial players then? By attribute search?
    I can't see most of the attributes as they are masked. Just filtering for non UK/Ireland unattached under 21s that my assistant thinks are realistic targets brings up a small list, filtering to a single position usually just gives me a handful of players to offer trials to.

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    An ok so as regards your post above, did you mean 'realistic' as opposed to 'unrealistic?'

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    I meant I tick the box to get my assistant to exclude unrealistic transfers.

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    Looks like I got what I wanted in Europe, my first European game will be against Hajduk Split

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    13-14 season. The links for league table and positions graph are wrong. When you click one, the pic is the other one. Just saying and great job btw, best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by egesagin View Post
    13-14 season. The links for league table and positions graph are wrong. When you click one, the pic is the other one. Just saying and great job btw, best of luck
    Thanks for that, I'm always getting those two the wrong way around

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    It would be great if you could give us updates about your results in Europa League, before final season report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yugo23 View Post
    It would be great if you could give us updates about your results in Europa League, before final season report.
    I certainly will this time, as I have a feeling my European adventure will be over before I've finished my pre-season

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    Europa League 2nd Qualifying Round Leg 1: Hajduk vs Bourneview

    Hajduk did to us what we had been doing to the teams in our league, they bossed us and barely let us out of our half. We were lucky to keep the scoreline down and even managed to find the net ourselves, but there's no way we are going though to the next round!

    The second leg will be hosted in our 550 capacity stadium, and the TV cameras are coming
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    Europa League 2nd Qualifying Round Leg 2: Bourneview vs Hajduk

    Hajduk were a bit more cautious in this match, which gave us a few more chances. We were never going to win the tie, but we gave it a good attempt.

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    Unlucky there dafuge, at least you scored against them

    I gave the trialist idea a go, and I didn't really get too much from it, a decent striker aside, so I went back to my scouts, who found me some NI premier league ability players.

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    Sickeningly good success there again.

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    Not a bad result at all against an established European side! Good luck in the top division - although I'm sure you'll walk that too without the need for jam.

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    I'm confident about the Premiership as my team matches up fairly evenly with the winners from last season. It won't be as easy as the last two, but I think we've got a decent chance.

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    I read your FM11 thread daf and loved it! Will be reading this one with interest as well!

    Good luck in the Premiership!

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    I've changed my mind now

    These clubs are actually quite good, it's a huge step up from the other leagues.

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    Dafuge so useless, lost in all three levels of Northern Ireland now. ;) Good luck in the step up to the Premiership, sounds like it will at the very least give you a decent challenge.

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    Got our first league win

    It seems there's a huge difference in the top and bottom teams in this league, maybe top half would be a decent result.

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    I am very interest in this as I see thread of fm2011 where you have amazing career. I only see this thread now and I read for hour. Now I follow this one from start and I get excite about career progress you have.

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    Dafuge, I've followed your careers since your T&M story, and just wanted to wish you the best of luck for this challenge, not that you'll need it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuge View Post
    I'm wondering if the Premiership will provide some better competition?
    Wow,close call there dafuge,only 23 pts ahead.

    Maybe the competition will be a bit harder but I predict you will walk the league your 2nd season in the prem and never look back.

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    Great start daf, as always with you!

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    Bourneview Young Men - Carling Premiership - 2014/15

    After dominating the lower leagues we had a chance to test ourselves against Northern Ireland's best. We also had a chance to play in Europe.

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    We didn't start too well, but with a few new signings we found ourselves climbing the table. Even with the league split playing into our favour, we couldn't catch runaway winners Cliftonville.

    Mid-Ulster Cup - our reserves suffered a shock defeat.

    Irish League Cup - we were going well but suffered an unlucky defeat.

    Irish Cup - we made the most of an easy route to the final, then blitzed that.

    Setanta Cup - the prize money for this was big, so I was really hoping for a decent performance. Despite winning 2-1 at home, we threw it away in the second leg.

    UEFA Europa League - it was brief as we lost at home and away in our first tie.

    Squad - I'm still looking to improve it, but this lot are easily capable of success.

    Transfers - I went into the season with the same squad and quickly realised that it wasn't good enough. Three new strikers were brought in, which made a huge difference.

    Finances - still not great, but I've improved since last season.


    Key Player Profiles:

    Martin Zelenka - he was the man brought in to bring us goals, he did just that.

    Eriks Punculs - another new striker that was brought in.

    Matija Cakarun - he was brought in as a striker, but did well in the AMC role.

    Ian Woodford - the star winger.

    Gheorghe Luca - another great winger.


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    2012/13   Championship Two         1st         League, Mid-Ulster and Intermediate Cup winners
    2013/14   Championship One         1st         League, Mid-Ulster and Irish Cup winners
    2014/15   Carling Premiership      2nd         Irish Cup winners
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    This season proved that we are capable of keeping up with the big teams in Northern Ireland. Next season I think the title is a realistic aim.
    Last edited by dafuge; 27-10-2011 at 21:54.

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    daf, your screenshots says you lost in the Semi-Final of the Irish Cup but yet got to the final and won? Is it just me that's got confused by this?

    Edit: Your Irish Cup link is linked to the Irish League cup and your League Cup is linked to the Mid-Ulster Cup... Someone has had a few to many too drink!

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    Two promotions and finishing 2nd in your first season in top flight,absolutely brilliant

    Good luck in your title ambitions next season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotChocolate View Post
    daf, your screenshots says you lost in the Semi-Final of the Irish Cup but yet got to the final and won? Is it just me that's got confused by this?

    Edit: Your Irish Cup link is linked to the Irish League cup and your League Cup is linked to the Mid-Ulster Cup... Someone has had a few to many too drink!
    The links should be sorted now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuge View Post
    The links should be sorted now
    Aye, ace season anyway. 'best manager going' comes to mind

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    As for losing in the Setanta Cup, I was gutted at missing out on the chance of the £1.7m prize money for winning.

    Until I saw this

    That's my finances sorted then, time to start pestering the board.

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    You'll probably do it next year

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    Are you slightly concerned at how easy it's been to establish yourselves as a top NI club? By which I mean the sheer length of the task in elevating the stature of your club and league to the point where you can challenge in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeXe View Post
    Are you slightly concerned at how easy it's been to establish yourselves as a top NI club? By which I mean the sheer length of the task in elevating the stature of your club and league to the point where you can challenge in Europe.
    Getting to the top in Northern Ireland has been easy for one huge reason, it is rubbish. Getting my club (and possibly the league) to a point to be able to challenge in Europe is the real challenge here, I'm expecting that to take quite a while. I'm hoping to be able to complete enough seasons to make that possible, although I realise that it may well be quite frustrating.

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    Looks like my second European adventure may also be a short one, I've drawn Bursaspor

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuge View Post
    Looks like my second European adventure may also be a short one, I've drawn Bursaspor
    Good luck with that dafuge,and grats on another great season.

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    One word. Awesome.

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    Great progress here - looks like Zelenka really did the business for you. How do you rate your chances of going one step better this season?

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    Wow daf! Far enough the two bottom leagues are low standard but 2nd in Prem is awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by iseemonsters1 View Post
    Great progress here - looks like Zelenka really did the business for you. How do you rate your chances of going one step better this season?
    I think it depends if Cliftonville (or anyone else) make big improvements. They finished 8th the previous season, so it was odd that they won the league so easily.

    I think we should be able to do it if we get off to a good start.

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    Europa League 2nd Qualifying Round Leg 1: Bourneview vs Bursaspor

    What a result! We didn't just sneak this result, we deserved it. I imagine the second leg may be a bit different.

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    Europa League 2nd Qualifying Round Leg 2: Bursaspor vs Bourneview

    Things were going well as we held Bursaspor off, then we scored. At 3-0 up it looked like we were through but Bursaspor came out a different team in the second half. They battered us for 45 minutes but couldn't find enough goals as we sneaked through on away goals. This means we become a seeded team for the next round where we meet Midtjylland of Denmark.

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    Amazing result. Maybe your season summaries should also include UEFA Country coefficients screen. When are you going to activate other leagues (especially those ranked near NI)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yugo23 View Post
    Amazing result. Maybe your season summaries should also include UEFA Country coefficients screen. When are you going to activate other leagues (especially those ranked near NI)?
    I was considering that, but the reputations are updated quite a while after I write my updates. Perhaps I could add them as a separate post?

    Here's where we are now:

    Northern Ireland - 74th in FIFA rankings
    Northern Ireland - 46th in UEFA coefficients
    Carling Premiership - 180th in European competitions (1 star)
    Bourneview - 491st in UEFA coefficients

    I'm not sure about activating other leagues, I've got a fairly big database so the teams I'm playing all have real players. Perhaps I'll look into it if I notice problems with the reputations.

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