FM12 Big Euro Nation: Small Club to Big Club Challenge

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 18:14

Welcome to the fifth season of the Big Euro Nation Challenge, this year sponsored by iacovone, Lower Leagues Rule & rlipscombe in place of founder JoseRR.

The challenge runs similarly to many of the other popular challenges seen in the CSE forum (see dafuge's, Gundo's, Rancer's and Razor's) in that the aim is to guide a previously unplayable club from one of the below chosen league's to the top of the domestic and European food chain.

The Possible Countries

France
Spain
Italy
Portugal
Germany
Scotland
Turkey
Russia

If you choose to manage in Scotland you should holiday for one year (as per usual) and then select the team that finished rock bottom of this league.

The League Rules
France | Spain | Italy | Portugal | Germany | Scotland | Turkey | Russia

Saved Games (holidayed):

I will add these as soon as I have some of them.

Code:

Nation     - Save Date     - Team (SCO)
__________________________________
Spain      -  8th July     - Save
Italy      - 28th June     - Save
Portugal   - 28th June     - Save
Turkey     - 18th June     - Save
Germany    - 18th June     - Save
Russia     - 18th June     - Save

France     - 18th June     - Save (Veendee, Raon-I'Etape, Cannes & Romorantin)
France     - 18th June     - Save (Plabennecois)
France     - 18th June     - Save (Dunkerque, Amneville)
France     - 18th June     - Save (Jura-Sud, Alfortville)
France     - 18th June     - Save (Carquefou)
France     - 18th June     - Save (Rodez) 
France     - 18th June     - Save (Louhans-Cuiseaux)
France     - 18th June     - Save (Yzuere, Vity-Chatillons)

Scotland   -  1st June     - Save (Queens Park)
Scotland   -  1st June     - Save (Clyde)
Scotland   -  1st June     - Save (Elgin)

Spain      -  9th July     - Save (Barakaldo, Caudal, Diter Zafra, Lanzarote, Algeciras)

Unless otherwise stated these saves have a large database with All Players from Nation, and Top Clubs from Europe

As Scotland and France's teams are already decided at the save date above, I have listed the available teams in each save. For the French ones there are four teams promoted, in the lower ones down my list if less teams listed then that means those are the new teams there.

For the other saves near the bottom I have just listed the teams I found as rare in my constant reloads, if anyone wants them they are the same set-up as the others, just have teams available.

League Reset Dates:

A list of all the league reset dates are shown below. If you have found any changes to this, please let me know.
All are now confirmed as correct in FM12.

Code:

France     -   19th June
Turkey     -   19th June
Italy      -   29th June
Portugal   -   29th June
Spain      -   9th July
Germany    -   19th June
Russia     -   19th June
Scotland   -   N/A

The Rules - Playing

1) Load One Nation Only (All Available Divisions within your nation)
2) Your choice of Database Size (Large Recommended)
3) NO Edited Databases of any kind
4) Customising Database

Players from Top Clubs (Europe or All Continents - This increases the challenge at Continental Level)
Players Based in (Your Nation only - This can add up to 50% more players to your game)
If you wish to have correct club names etc - This File allows it without a database edit.
NO other additional customising is allowed.

5) Attribute Masking should be Enabled
6) Optional Ticks

Add Key Staff (This will give you a Scout, Physio & Ass Man by generating them if your club is without)
Add Players in Playable Nations (This will ensure your club has enough players to start with)

The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference.

Steps in the Game

1) Add yourself as an unemployed manager, you will not use this man to manage your club.
2) Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation (Should take about an hour)

Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this.

3) Retire your unemployed manager.
4) Add a new manager

a) Past Experience lowest Possible (Generally Sunday League)
b) Other options are up to you

5) Choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation.

Easiest way in FM12 to see this is using Overview Screen, if the right side of graph says anything but 11/12 this team is newly promoted.

6) Manage them to National Title & European Championship
7) Celebrate Completing the Big Euro Challenge.

Other Things to Point out

1) If you are Sacked

(i) You can Restart from the beginning or;

(ii) Continue your game and pick a new club (Under Same Rules) at the end of the next season

(iii) Add another Big Euro League/Remove Current League, holiday a whole season and continue

a) You can still only have one nation running at a time

b) Once the league becomes active you MUST holiday a full season

c) The club must be one of those unplayable from the beginning

2) No Restrictions on Parent or Feeder Clubs
3) No International Management until after completion

Signing of Players
1) You must be able to scout them

You don't actually have to scout them, just be able to

2) Alternatively (If you can't scout them), you should bring them on a trial first
3) And from FM11 onwards Agents offer players, you are able to sign anyone sent to you via Agent Offer

(I suggest Screenshots of the offer)

The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited.

The Rules - Posting

1) Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this)
2) Discussion of tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this)

Expected Posting of Updates

We have minimum expectations when it comes to a first up post and also in the end of season updates. Here are some suggested ideas for screenshots, but also in bold is what is considered minimum for your updates. Please follow this as best you can.

First Post:
Personal Page (Manager)
Overview Screen (Club)
Profile (Manager)
Information (Club)
Squad (Club)

End of Season Updates:
Transfers (Club) - This is so we can see the ins & outs
League Table (Competition)
Squad (Club)
Profile (Manager)
Personal (Manager)
Information (Club)

Anything else is optional, but we love to see every little detail in your game, I will show some examples of updates down below in the next post so you can see some of the stuff previously posted. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread, we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing badly. If you title your end of season report in bold this makes it easier to identify. Everyone will be supportive, and really get into your game if you give more detail, I also provide a list of some previous star players that may have become household names in this thread.

How to Post a Screenshot

1) While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard).
2) Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image
3) Save the file as a JPEG or PNG
4) Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack
5) Post the direct Url to the image here.

Alternatively using ALT + F9 in game saves a screenshot to your user data folder. (You can also edit this in the shortcuts options)

The LLR Motivational

Finally I would like to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to managerial success!

The atmosphere and contribution in this thread has always been excellent, long may it continue. As core members for every year, LLR and rlipscombe would like to add that we are here to help for the new challengers and hope everybody that participates contributes considerably to the thread. There is nothing better than getting immersed not only in your own game but providing the encouragement to other people's attempts too. Remember we are all fighting the same battle - to defeat the AI (and uncover fabulous newgens!) - therefore it goes without saying that any form of cheating will be severely chastised. Don't do it! We have had an incident in the past, lets not see it again - it spoils the challenge for the hard workers in here.

Away we GO!!!!

Credit to TIR669 for the new Logo topping our challenge

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 18:14

The History of the Big Euro Challenge

The Origins of this Challenge were in FM2008 when JoseRR realised there was a gap between the Gundos & Dafuges challenges, the Bigger Nations of Europe were being left out.

JoseRR's FM08 Small Club to Big Club From a Big European Nation Challenge
Thread

In FM08 there was a very slow start, and it seemed to dawdle along until Rlipscombe joined and it started to pick up, then I came along (as Des Tiny) and we kept it going until we were joined by Iacovone and others. A great little thread and the beginnings of something much larger.

Completions
None

Other Notables
Des Tiny - Italy - Darfo Boario - 2012/13 - Serie C1/A
Rlipscombe - Italy - Como - 2015/16 - Serie A
Mark Snellink - Italy - Alessandria - 2016/17 - Serie B

The Facts
Completions: 0
Most Completions: 0
Most Clubs: 3 (Des Tiny)
Most Posts: 339 (Rlipscombe)
Most Used Club: Como (5 Users)

JoseRR's FM09 Big Euro Nation Challenge
Thread

FM09 was the peak of power for the Big Euro Challenge. The thread ended with an awards ceremony, there were over 6000 posts, a large number of completions and the best community spirit of any thread. It also managed to take out a few awards in the CSE awards at the end of the season.

Completions

Code:


|------------|-----------------|---------|------------|
| Challenger |  Club           |  Year   | The Update |
|------------|-----------------|---------|------------|
| Iacovone   | Savona          | 2028/29 | EoS Report |
| Ohanzee    | FC Mulhouse     | 2018/19 | EoS Report |
| El Sid     | Sachsen Leipzig | 2015/16 | EoS Report |
| Daemonic   | Real SD Alcala  | 2020/21 | EoS Report |
| PRDH       | Domegliara      | 2025/26 | EoS Report |
| Rlipscombe | Real Oviedo     | 2019/20 | EoS Report |
|------------|-----------------|---------|------------|

Other Notables

Code:

|------------|----------|---------|---------------------|
| Challenger | Club     |  Year   | Biggest Achievement |
|------------|----------|---------|---------------------|
| LLR        | Fafe     | 2028/29 | Winning Liga Sagres | The Shirt
| TanO       | Monsanto | 2032/33 | Winning Liga Sagres |
|------------|----------|---------|---------------------|

The Awards Ceremony

The Facts
Completions: 6
Most Completions: 1 (Iacovone & 5 Others)
Most Clubs: 5 (LLR)
Most Posts: 1061 (LLR)
Most Used Club: Real Oviedo (5 Users)

FM10 Small Club to Big Club Big Euro Nation Challenge
Thread

2010 saw Iacovone post the opening of the thread and another 4500 posts or so, there were twelve completions as LLR finally managed it with Lusitano de Evora in Portugal. There were some excellent stories and the challenge continued in high spirits.

Completions

Code:

|------------|-----------------|---------|------------|
| Challenger |  Club           |  Year   | The Update |
|------------|-----------------|---------|------------|
| Ohanzee    | S.D Noja        | 2019/20 | EoS Report |
| El Sid     | Preußen Munster | 2018/19 | EoS Report |
| Cookie15   | Pisa            | 2015/16 | EoS Report |
| Minisav    | Darmstadt       | 2013/14 | EoS Report |
| WillyWonka | Stuttgart K.    | 2017/18 | EoS Report |
| Daemonic   | Montevarchi     | 2018/19 | EoS Report |
| Razer82    | Fafe            | 2022/23 | Eos Report |
| PRDH       | SO Romorantin   | 2026/27 | EoS Report |
| StellaF1   | Hospitalet      | 2019/20 | EoS Report |
| LLR        | LusitanoDeEvora | 2028/29 | EoS Report |
| G-Wiz      | VfB Lubeck      | 2020/21 | EoS Report |
| Ohanzee    | Anadia          | 2021/22 | EoS Report |
|------------|-----------------|---------|------------|

Other Notables

Code:

|-------------|----------|---------|---------------------|
| Challenger  | Club     |  Year   | Biggest Achievement |
|-------------|----------|---------|---------------------|
| Gilbster    | Elgin    | 2028/29 | Scottish Champions  |
| LLR         | Evora    | 2032/33 | 10x Portugal Champs |
| Ghostwriter | Angolana | 2022/23 | 10th in Serie A     |
| Iacovone    | Castillo | 2025/26 | Escaping 2nd Div    |
| Rlipscombe  | Vebezia  | 2022/23 | Coppa Italia Win    |
| PaulHartman | Libourne | 2033/34 | French Cup Win      |
|-------------|----------|---------|---------------------|

The Facts
Completions: 12
Most Completions: 2 (Ohanzee)
Most Clubs: 4 (LLR & Yababo)
Most Posts: 681 (Rlipscombe)
Most Used Club: Elgin City (11 Users)

FM11 Big Euro Nation: Small Club to Big Club Challenge
Thread

In 2011 LLR took over the running of the challenge, with assistance as always provided by Rlipscombe. The number of challengers dropped off a little, but the spirit in the thread continued once more as the core of players was the same that it had been for a few years now.

Completions

Code:

|-------------|-----------------|---------|------------|
| Challenger  |  Club           |  Year   | The Update |
|-------------|-----------------|---------|------------|
| Ohanzee     | Albion Rovers   | 2025/26 | EoS Report |
| ToMexico!!  | Hallescher FC   | 2021/22 | EoS Report |
| Almondo     | WSV Borussia    | 2021/22 | EoS Report |
| SnakeXe     | Messina         | 2029/30 | EoS Report |
| El Sid      | RC Ferrol       | 2017/18 | EoS Report |
| Dangermouse | Mantova         | 2018/19 | EoS Report |
| Ohanzee     | Venezia         | 2022/23 | EoS Report |
| Minisav     | RB Leipzig      | 2015/16 | EoS Report |
| Anti Spiral | Angri           | 2027/28 | EoS Report |
|-------------|-----------------|---------|------------|

Other Notables

Code:

|-------------|--------------|---------|---------------------------|
| Challenger  | Club         |  Year   |   Biggest Achievements    |
|-------------|--------------|---------|---------------------------|
| Biscotti    | Oliveira BSC | 2028/29 | Liga Sagres & Europa Wins |
| Rlipscombe  | Messina      | 2017/18 | Serie A Survival          |
| LLR         | Haro         | 2022/23 | 3rd Liga BBVA             |
|-------------|--------------|---------|---------------------------|

The Facts
Completions: 8
Most Completions: 2 (Ohanzee)
Most Clubs: 5 (LLR)
Most Posts: 306 (Rlipscombe)
Most Used Club: Stuttgarter Kickers & Torpedo Moscow (4 Users)

FM12 Big Euro Challenge: Small Club to Big Club

Welcome to the challenge in the all new FM12, myself & Rlipscombe welcome back all the regulars and also any newbies as well. I hope you can all add to this history over the next twelve months and we can once again have the thread with the best atmosphere of anywhere in the SI Forums.

Completions

Code:

|--------------|--------------------|---------|------------|
| Challenger   |  Club              |  Year   | The Update |
|--------------|--------------------|---------|------------|
| Toonbalmy    | Wuppertal SV        | 2017/18 | EoS Report |
| ElSid        | TuS Kobelnz         | 2017/18 | EoS Report |
| jimbowmanUK  | Elgin City          | 2020/21 | EoS Report |
| Almondo      | Pena Sport FC       | 2023/24 | EoS Report |
| Welsh Wizard | FC Chita            | 2017/18 | EoS Report |
| StelaF1      | Seregno             | 2020/21 | EoS Report |  
| Iacovone     | Novese              | 2035/36 | EoS Report |  
| PRDH         | Lusitano Azores     | 2037/38 | EoS Report | 
| Vikeologist  | East Stirlingshire  | 2030/31 | EoS Report |   
| Andy Sava    | Holstein Kiel       | 2028/29 | EoS Report |
| Marty78      | AS Cannes           | 2023/24 | EoS Report |
| Berty1978    | Vitreenne FC        | 2029/30 | EoS Report || Minisav      | Wuppertal SV        | 2016/17 | EoS Report |
| Rlipscombe   | SV Waldhof Mannheim | 2027/28 | EoS Report |
| Aldojags     | ES Viry Essonne    | 2032/33 | EoS Report |
|--------------|--------------------|---------|------------|

Other Notables

The Facts
Completions: 15
Most Completions: Toonbalmy & 14 Others
Most Clubs: 4 (LLR)
Most Posts: 615 (PRDH)
Most Used Club: Wuppertal SV

Completions by Nation

Code:

Germany  - 12
Italy    - 9
Spain    - 6

Code:

France   - 5
Portugal - 3
Scotland - 3
Russia   - 1
Turkey   - 0

So there are currently more German completions than anywhere else. Scotland is tough, Russia and Turkey weren't cracked last year, and people haven't done a lot of time in Portugal.

Some of the Star Players from our History

Tommaso Cilona (DC/DM/MC) - Savona (FM09)
Jimmy Blixt (AMRL) - Savona (FM09)
Riccardo Rotunno (ST) - Savona (FM09)
Fabio Scognamiglio (AMC) - Mulhouse (FM09)
Artur Pestana (GK) - Domegliara (FM09)
Diego Pastore (AM/FC) - Domegliara (FM09)
Michael Dixon (AM/FC) - Real Oviedo (FM09)
Asier Galindo (DC) - Real Oviedo (FM09)
Aleksander Radakovic (ST) - Fafe (FM09)
Javier (YP4) (DLC) - Real Oviedo (FM09)
Pedro Calzado (AMC) - SD Noja (FM10)
Ignacio Gallardo (ST) - Pisa (FM10)
Pieo Ezimendi (FC) - Montevarchi (FM10)
Marko Kresic (AM/FC) - SO Romorantin (FM10)
Daniel (AM/FC) - Hospitalet (FM10)
Ernesto Vazquez (MC) - Evora (FM10)
Andrea Galliani (ST) - VfB Lubeck (FM10)
Patrick Wang (ST) - Anadia (FM10)
Gordon Hart (AMC) - Castillo (FM10)
Benjiman Orellana (GK) - Venezia (FM10)
Jerome Herbert (DR/MRL) - FC Libourne-Saint Seurin (FM10)
Marco Francesconi (ST) - Haro (FM11)
Manuel Navarro (ST) - Albion Rovers (FM11)
Gokay Kok (ST) - Hallescher (FM11)
Ousame Zongo (ST) - Mantova (FM11)
Allan Chibwe (ST) - Venezia (FM11)
Hugo De Luca (GK) - Oliveira do Bairro SC (FM11)

If I have missed anyone then I apologise, if you think your player is also deserving pop me a PM, tell me why and give me a link to their profile and I will see about adding them.

Kits & Logos

I have a mixture of packs that seem to cover most of the leagues, but I am going to attempt to update these for FM12, even if it means manually searching through the thousands of files I have and compiling them into one set of logos and kits. I currently have sets saved for lower leagues in every single season of FM, so hoping to build that into one lot that can be easily replaced/updated each season. I may actually try and put together a pack of logos and kits for each of our leagues (Or at least link to where they are able to be got from).

SS'11-12 is a work in Progress from Sortitoutsi, I will be using them as they build a set, but until then I will provide links to their old threads with the missing kits in them. Below each link is a list of the available Kits:

SS'11-12 Kits

France: Ligue 1 & 2 & National
Germany: Complete
Italy: Complete
Portugal: Liga Sagres
Russia: Prem & 1st League
Scotland: Complete
Spain: Liga BBVA & Adelante
Turkey: Complete

SS'10-11 Kits

France: CFA & Rest(You will need the relegated teams from National Pack too)
Portugal: Liga Vitalis (Also get the teams relegated from Liga Sagres)
Russia: Second Division (Also get the teams relegated from 1st League)
Scotland: Highland League (Only needed for Cups)
Spain: 2nd Div B (Also get the teams relegated from Adelante)

SS'08 Kits

Portugal: 3rd Division (These are from FM08 but should complete your sets)
Spain: Terciera Division (As Above)

You may end up with a few missing kits after taking all the above kits and putting them together, but it should be minimal, I can tamper with the Config files and make it so the extra kits can be set as one group if anyone has a problem.

Logos

I have found two packs, both seem to cover the whole range of leagues we compete in and a lot of others.

Button Logos
Metallic Logos

Hope all this helps everyone else's enjoyment of our thread this season - Jono

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 18:15

Well the countdown has begun, I can't wait for the next 6 hours to disappear, but I thought I should give you all the new thread. Welcome and I hope you all enjoy it in FM12.

**Twellman24** · 20-10-2011 18:29

Wow, SO excited. Happy to be the first user to post. Let's do this, come on midnight!!! Still thinking of which country...

**soofking** · 20-10-2011 19:15

Don't usually do these challenges, but i think i might try this one. Will be in scotland i do it, wont begin it straight away but will get round to this challenge in a couple of months time.

**Twellman24** · 20-10-2011 19:22

Two things:

1 - Very good work with those two posts. Well done, LLR.
2 - Seeing how neither Turkey nor Russia had been done, it really makes me want to try them...maybe Turkey. We'll see.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 19:24

Awesome Soofking - Will see you when you get here.

As for you Twellman, good luck wherever you decide to go, I am a little torn between Spain again, or crossing to Italy, most likely Spain given I have done all the kit organising for there already. I may do holiday games on all the leagues though first, will see how I feel and how quick the first one is.

Thanks for the compliment on the posts, I just thought of things that could be added, and were some nice touches, also thought the opening post and rules needed a refresh. It has been the same since FM08, and was pretty much a copy of dafuge's meaning there were some unrelated comments in there. I am also tempted by Turkey and Russia at some point, I think the tough thing there is the foreigner rules as neither at EU, so foreigners is pretty much anyone not of their nation. (I think there are exceptions for some form Soviet Republics, but not many).

**danger_mouse** · 20-10-2011 19:56

Fantastic threat mate and i am sooo happy to have Ousame Zongo in the Star Players section

And I am really really looking forward to starting this challenge again

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 20:01

Glad you like it danger_mouse, it was really enjoyable reading back over 4 seasons of threads and some of the stellar updates that have been posted, also following careers of players again. An amazing sense of community in this thread just makes me keep coming back for more. Looking forward to it all.

**Twellman24** · 20-10-2011 20:03

It's funny, I'm probably the user with the most seasons without achieving anything (at all) in the past two editions (in the 2020s/2030s in both 11 and 12 with Algeciras). Oh well.

**danger_mouse** · 20-10-2011 20:06

Well im in two minds whether to try again with Mantova or try my luck in a different country....hmm what to doo?!?!

**rlipscombe** · 20-10-2011 20:12

First of all, i have to take my hat off to LLR for an OUTSTANDING opening post. quite possibly the best opening post for a thread ever. sets the bar high for the others. it has been a fascinating read, one which has taken me down memory lane. a few observations:

- i need to stop posting in this thread!! 3 out of 4 years as top poster is pretty impressive!

1 completion out of 4 not so...

- LLR you don't half get through some clubs...
- good to see so many people have tasted success. hopefully many of them will be back for another crack.
- i've been a bit of a trendsetter in teams to manage, what with having lled the way with Oviedo and Venezia.

reading the opening thread has made me reminisce about my old saves and helped steer me towards the country of choice for game one. i am pretty sure i will be returning to the scene of my finest hour, Spain. i have identified the club(s) i want should they gain promotion. we will wait and see.

So that's about it. i hope that the opening post spurs on a few people to give the challenge another go and help us get back to the golden years of 2009 and 2010. i would like to welcome any players this year and i hope that you enjoy this thread as much as i have. i still think this is the best challenge on the forum and i hope you get as much enjoyment out of this thread as i continue to do so.

Who wants to play a career forum game anyway??

(before attempting this challenge anyway!!)

**TIR669** · 20-10-2011 20:24

Loving the new logo.

As many already said, those two opening posts are really a great read. Excellently done mate. I will surely play it this year, now when my PC can run several leagues smoothly.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 20:31

Thanks Rlipscombe, memory lane is good.

1) Top Poster has me in 2nd most seasons, and also only 1 completion from 4...
2) My Issue is clearly too many clubs, think I am going to try and work on that this season...
3) The range of players who have completed is great, but Big Ups to Ohanzee - 5 Completions in 3 Seasons...
4) Yes, I was tempted to call it "Manage whoever Rlipscombe does Challenge...

Good Luck finding whoever you do in Spain, I will most likely be there as well. Had a play in the Demo with Manacor, the lowest rep of all teams in the 2nd Division, so probably only see them in season one, but was a bit of a challenge to get players in and also a bit of fun too.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 20:32

Originally Posted by TIR669

Loving the new logo.

As many already said, those two opening posts are really a great read. Excellently done mate. I will surely play it this year, now when my PC can run several leagues smoothly.

Thank you for the Logo, I love it, and added to the Map it looks spectacular.

**rlipscombe** · 20-10-2011 20:47

Originally Posted by Lower Leagues Rule

Thanks Rlipscombe, memory lane is good.

1) Top Poster has me in 2nd most seasons, and also only 1 completion from 4...
2) My Issue is clearly too many clubs, think I am going to try and work on that this season...
3) The range of players who have completed is great, but Big Ups to Ohanzee - 5 Completions in 3 Seasons...
4) Yes, I was tempted to call it "Manage whoever Rlipscombe does Challenge...

Good Luck finding whoever you do in Spain, I will most likely be there as well. Had a play in the Demo with Manacor, the lowest rep of all teams in the 2nd Division, so probably only see them in season one, but was a bit of a challenge to get players in and also a bit of fun too.

cheers. the team i wanted came up on FM11 during restarts and actually had a brief dabble with them. they're my kind of club if you know what i mean!!

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 20:52

Originally Posted by rlipscombe

cheers. the team i wanted came up on FM11 during restarts and actually had a brief dabble with them. they're my kind of club if you know what i mean!!

I will probably wait and see what happens with the teams that start to come up, don't really have an idea of who I want yet. Not going to go as Haro, been there done that. LOL, maybe a 5 letter name (Worked in 2010 - Fafe (4), then Evora (5))

**Biscotti** · 20-10-2011 20:53

Incredible opening post LLR (is there an echo in here?)

I'm truly delighted to see Da Luca honoured among the BEN greats - it really was a travesty that he never made his name at international level.

As I said before, I'm not sure I'll be doing BEN again this year, as I fancy a crack at Gundo's, but that doesn't mean I wont be following along

**GreyedOutMan** · 20-10-2011 21:04

OOooooo this has thrown my FM12 plans up the creek. Was planning Dafuge then an Arsenal game, but this sounds very tempting....

**rlipscombe** · 20-10-2011 21:13

LLR - i have just come across a thread that sets a new bar on posts for any game. thought you might appreciate it:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...int-Germain-FC

has inspired me a little.....

**rlipscombe** · 20-10-2011 21:14

Originally Posted by GreyedOutMan

OOooooo this has thrown my FM12 plans up the creek. Was planning Dafuge then an Arsenal game, but this sounds very tempting....

you know it makes sense...

**Biscotti** · 20-10-2011 21:24

Originally Posted by rlipscombe

LLR - i have just come across a thread that sets a new bar on posts for any game. thought you might appreciate it:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...int-Germain-FC

has inspired me a little.....

That is indeed one epic club post. Honestly, I actually think it would put me off reading someone's updates if they were that wordy every season, but for one-offs it truly is a spectacle.

**rlipscombe** · 20-10-2011 21:27

Originally Posted by Biscotti

That is indeed one epic club post. Honestly, I actually think it would put me off reading someone's updates if they were that wordy every season, but for one-offs it truly is a spectacle.

i would probably agree with you to an extent, though the layout i like. as an opening post for a game be it a challenge or a career game it would be pretty special.

**Twellman24** · 20-10-2011 21:30

Don't you think it's just too Sortitoutsi-ish? That's my impression at least. I don't know.

**kccircle** · 20-10-2011 21:34

Pretty much the best intro to a thread on here.........................ever - nice one

Scrap that, meh. Just read the PSG one - yours is now decidedly average

**Ohanzee** · 20-10-2011 21:37

That's one huge and awesome opening posts Lower Leagues Rule! Really well done! If I had never done this challenge before I'm pretty sure I would go for it after reading that.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. There's been some amazing stories in these threads over the years. I didn't even realize I still had those old FC Mulhouse screens on my account. You made me go back and look at the 2009 thread now. Maybe it's time to go back to France *ponders* I was more or less set on Portugal though, but I'll probably spend all night pondering as usual.

As you put it yourself, I also love the atmosphere and contribution in this thread, and it's why I keep coming back. Hopefully we'll see even more people in here this season.

My game is pre-loaded and ready to go, so just twiddling my thumbs and reading some of those EoS reports you linked while I wait.

**toonbalmy87** · 20-10-2011 21:38

missed my achievement as uni oviedo

nvm i wil b bk though in a different country probs germany or scotland

gd luck evry1 roll on 12 01

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 22:12

Originally Posted by rlipscombe

LLR - i have just come across a thread that sets a new bar on posts for any game. thought you might appreciate it:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...int-Germain-FC

has inspired me a little.....

Holy...wow that just blows my reports completely out of the water, think it was a bit wordy though...maybe something at the end of a 30-40 year save game reporting the full history (I did do a twenty year report on Evora?).

Originally Posted by kccircle

Pretty much the best intro to a thread on here.........................ever - nice one

Scrap that, meh. Just read the PSG one - yours is now decidedly average

Thanks KC, haha did look good til then.

Originally Posted by toonbalmy87

missed my achievement as uni oviedo

nvm i wil b bk though in a different country probs germany or scotland

gd luck evry1 roll on 12 01

Looks like I have to go back now, I never meant to miss anyone out...only read about 15,000 posts in preparation lol

**Almondo** · 20-10-2011 22:32

Great opening post LLR. Now I just need to decide where I'm going to manage this time around after my game with WSV last time.

**rancer890** · 20-10-2011 22:41

Erm, Des, you forgot my Oviedo team in FM09 (in the other notables..I think I won La Liga once but don't quote me on it...it's been a while). But otherwise well done on the OP and including my favourite newgen of all time.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 22:49

Originally Posted by rancer890

Erm, Des, you forgot my Oviedo team in FM09 (in the other notables..I think I won La Liga once but don't quote me on it...it's been a while). But otherwise well done on the OP and including my favourite newgen of all time.

That I did...hmmm not good enough...

**Mafino** · 20-10-2011 22:50

Going to go for Portugal, my own country

**Gilbster** · 20-10-2011 23:30

Fantastic opening posts there LLR. Very happy to have been mentioned amongst the notables for my Elgin City attempt. Whatever challenge I pick to start with this season, I am hoping to have enough motivation to manage a nice long epic save!

Good luck to everyone taking part in this one this season, should be some interesting stories emerging.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 23:35

Good Luck wherever you go Gilbster, thanks for the kind words, and I am in action here - 25% done on set-up

**global1** · 20-10-2011 23:53

Fully loaded and on holiday

**Amethyst21** · 20-10-2011 23:55

Arg, can't decide if I want to do this challenge or the Small nation challenge, quite fancied a run with Eschen-Mauren in Switzerland (Lichtenstein ftw).... However I haven't managed in France or Portugal....ever I think so, this might be a nice time to get aquinted with the leagues.

Hmmmmm

**PRDH** · 20-10-2011 23:55

Great opening post there LLR, I'll be back here (as if there was any doubt) once my copy arrives in the morning.

It's just a case of whether to go to Portugal/Germany or one of Russia/Turkey. I had a go in Russia back when it was part of Gundo's - the foreigner rule was tough.

I'd just like to point out that Pajara Playas did complete the challenge too last year, though I got slack with updates, but there is a final one with a lot of the important information in, back on the old thread.

Good luck everyone. First one to complete buys everyone a beer.

Very proud to see both Diego Pastore and Marko Kresic up there - I clearly go for a certain 'type' of player.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 20-10-2011 23:56

Originally Posted by global1

Fully loaded and on holiday

I was, but then remembered I had something to do first so done now and reloading game

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 00:06

Mine is up and running as well. Still not 100% on where I'm gonna start though.

But, on the topic of adding/removing leagues (I noticed you discussing it in the old thread), I played around with it a little cause I wanted to see the foreign rules in more leagues than France (which is what I loaded first). It seems if you add a league it will only actually be added on the next possible reset date of that league.

Screen

France was loaded to begin with. I added Russia, and it seems they will only actually be activated in 2012 (next Russian reset I assume?). While Spain will be added 10.7.2011, which is their next rest. So that's something to take into consideration if using this feature becomes an option at all.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:11

Yeah I had seen that as well, so it happens on the next reset date...good to know.

If anyone gets a save game day before the resets can they please upload them for me, advising what the specs loaded are? Thanks in advance.

**global1** · 21-10-2011 00:13

Nooooooo holidayed for a year and realised i forgot to select bottom league

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:13

On holiday in Spain myself...slowly but surely...

**Tony Hawker** · 21-10-2011 00:14

Currently holidaying in Turkey, the reasons being that no one has completed Turkey yet, I've never managed in Turkey and I find the club names weird

**tommy1872** · 21-10-2011 00:17

as soon as i get the game i will be startin on this good luck to everyone

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:18

Good luck Tony, Ouch Global1 (restart?), and look forward to seeing you in here Tommy.

**global1** · 21-10-2011 00:23

Yep restart

just as well the alienware with i7 smashes through a holiday season in 15 mins lol

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 00:25

Actually, if the add/remove league dates are in fact league reset dates, then France, Turkey, Germany, and Russia have changed theirs. The first 3 with one day, and Russia with half a year, which can't be right. I guess that means the Russian leagues would be added mid-season to, wonder how that's gonna work.

Might wanna save your games on the 18th instead of 19th just in case if you're in one of Turkey or Germany though. (France don't really matter since the unplayable CFA decides who's promoted).

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:28

Thanks Ohanzee, 18th in Turkey & Germany is probably a good idea...

I think Russia is moving towards the same season as England?

**PRDH** · 21-10-2011 00:29

Feel I ought to point out Turkey and Russia probably have been completed, it was just before they gained enough reputation to make it in here. I'm sure someone in the history of Gundo's has got them done.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 00:29

I have no idea to be honest. Not really following Russian football very close.

But if starting a new game in Russia it says February as start date at least. Not sure how exactly they would manage to change it to a June start mid-season. I'm sure someone will go to Russia soon enough and find out though.

*edit* Good point PRDH, there's been lots of completions in there. Some very low reputation leagues to.

**tommy1872** · 21-10-2011 00:31

would like to see someone try the scottish leauge :P

**danger_mouse** · 21-10-2011 00:32

That sucks, i cant play this years challenge with my beloved Mantova as they are back in Serie C2/A......GUTTED!!!!!

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:35

Tommy - I believe Ohanzee completed with Scotland, biggest challenge was getting from 3rd to 1st in Scotland, and then getting into the top of the Champs League
PRDH - Yes they probably were completed over there, not sure...
Danger_Mouse - That sucks, happened to me with FM10 as AD Fafe got promoted which meant I couldn't use them anymore.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 00:40

Yes, LLR pretty much summed it up. I think keeping players after their initial contract was also a slight problem, but that's the case in any league under the really big ones tbh. Scotland was fun though. Their foreign player rules are pretty open if I remember correctly. You could probably play a team full of Brazilians if you wanted, that is if you can manage to get work permits.

**global1** · 21-10-2011 00:41

Diyarbakır Büyükşehir Belediye Spor

Diskispor is a Turkish sports club based in Diyarbakır. The football club plays in the TFF Second League. Diskispor is the football club of Diyarbakır Metropolitan Municipality. They take their name from "DISKI".

**Tony Hawker** · 21-10-2011 00:43

Originally Posted by global1

Diyarbakır Büyükşehir Belediye Spor

Diskispor is a Turkish sports club based in Diyarbakır. The football club plays in the TFF Second League. Diskispor is the football club of Diyarbakır Metropolitan Municipality. They take their name from "DISKI".

I envy you, I started holidaying 9 minutes before you and i'm only in the start of April.... good luck anyway!

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:44

I am a few days away from reset, but I am likely to reload at reset a few times to find a club I like...

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 00:49

And Spain's reset date has moved to 9th July...edited in opening post.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 01:00

I made screens of the league rules for all 8 nations in case anyone wants to see those before they decide where to go. These are just the rules for the top division though, as that's when squad registration and foreign or non-eu players can begin to become a real issue in my experience. I know at least some of you (including me) will enjoy a game less if the squad registration rules tough, so maybe some will find it useful at least.

France | Spain | Italy | Portugal | Germany | Scotland | Turkey | Russia

Keep in mind that the rules may actually change after 1 season. This was the case in Turkey last year at least, where you could register 10 foreign players the first season, but it was changed to 8 after, which at least caught me off guard. I only found out after signing 10 foreign players, resulting in banging my head against the wall for a few minutes.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 01:02

So first load actually seems to have got me one of the clubs I had thought about playing with, may do one more load. But first...If anyone wants one of these teams just ask:
Alfaro, Haro, Terrassa, Leonesa, Ferrol, Noja, Pontevedra, Merida, Alicante, Castellon, Extremadura, Portugalete, Antequera, Jerez, Marabella, Santa Brigida...

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 01:04

Originally Posted by Ohanzee

Thanks Ohanzee, I have added this to my opening post...

**Tony Hawker** · 21-10-2011 01:05

Just to clarify, the Turkish reset date is 19th June.

Manager Profile

Club Overview

Team Report

So they are a new-ish club and this is the highest they have ever been, I will now be creating their history.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 01:08

Just to clarify we need the "Club Overview" screen this season as this is the one that shows a lack of an 11/12 in the history, but for your Manager we need the Personal page, as this shows the selected Reputation...

Thanks

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 01:10

Back to Haro LLR? I see Noja, they were lots of fun, and there's only 4 letters in their name to.

Good luck global1 and Tony Hawker! Turkey is tough. I'll be cheering for both of you.

I'm on holiday in Portugal atm. It's between that and France for me I think. But Portugal most likely.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 01:18

I'm actually thinking about Alicante...
Now have saves including: Barakaldo, Caudal, Fuenlabrada, Algeciras, Diter Zafra (*), Lanzarote, Marbella, Gava & Gramenet as well.

**Amethyst21** · 21-10-2011 01:22

Going to be holidaying in Portugal, figured that having never played there in about 5 FM versions, it's time to give it a go. I also like the lack of restrictions as I tend to build a pretty international squad.

Here's the default reps for the Top Leagues in this challenge:
France - 155
Turkey - 135
Germany - 172
Italy - 170
Portugal - 145
Spain - 180
Russia - 140
Scotland - 117

Holland is the next highest rep (outside of Scotland) it has 134 rep, followed by Greece(125) and Belgium (122)

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 01:26

Good Luck Amethyst...Hmmm last season we made the changeover at 145 on agreement with Gundo, according to that we would lose Turkey & Russia once more...I think we just stick with what we have as Holland, Greece & Belgium are where they were last year.

I now have saves with: Ourense, Pena Sport, Avila, Parla & Estepona if anyone is interested...

**Adam "Le God"** · 21-10-2011 01:26

This looks pretty decent

gonna give this a whirl.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 02:05

I must be dumb, but I'm actually having a hard time figuring out exactly which teams are newly promoted from this new graph view. Am I right in assuming that if the bottom right hand numbers (on the graph) does not say 11/12, then it is a valid team?

*edit* Btw, Portugal reset the 29th for me.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 02:05

Des Tiny's
Agrupación Deportiva Parla

The Beginnings
July 10th 2012

The Future

In Brief
Predicted: 20th
Expectations: Avoid Relegation
My Aims: Avoid Relegation
Transfer Budget: €8.94k
Wage Budget: €13.5k
Current Wages: €7,047

Des Tiny has been signed by AD Pavla, another 5 letter team, they have only been in the Second Division on odd occasions in the past, but they have at least one famous name in their previous players list. A certain Rafa Benetiz played for them from 1981-1985 and is still an icon at the club.

| Manager Info | Club Overview | My Stadium |

So first up was a brief look at my Squad, it is a bit bare, but Juanma looks alright for this level. No-one's spot is guaranteed, but I think I want to try and get a few guys in on trial and see what I can do going forwards.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 02:07

Originally Posted by Ohanzee

I must be dumb, but I'm actually having a hard time figuring out exactly which teams are newly promoted from this new graph view. Am I right in assuming that if the bottom right hand numbers (on the graph) does not say 11/12, then it is a valid team?

Correct any that don't say 11/12 (There is an exception in Spain "Huracan Valencia" were a new club in 2DB in 2010/11, are not eligible)

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 02:17

Cheers!

That looks like a nice club you found. Always fun to find some sort of interesting history. Whether it's an old famous player or that they've won something a long time ago. Good luck!!

**Amethyst21** · 21-10-2011 02:35

A Canadian's Journey in Portugal
Ac. Viseu
First Look

Predicted: 6th
Expectations: Top Half Finish

Fortunate, despite an ambitious board, we have a significant amount free under the wage budget, so there will possibly be quite a few signings

Start of Season Expectations
Club Overview
Manager Profile

Hopefully I didn't miss anything, and off to Portugal I go!
Edit: Hopefully will get better at screenshots over time, lol

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 02:38

Welcome Amethyst, a nice club you have, had a play with them in the past. Good Luck in Portugal, my favourite league system.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 02:59

Good luck Amethyst21! Portugal is fun, I might be joining you soon. I just can't decide on a club, always takes me ages.

**Twellman24** · 21-10-2011 03:06

Well, everybody going to Spain is making me want to go there, too...(I'm from there, too)...I guess I'm holidaying in España!

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 03:10

Ohanzee - It was taking me ages to decide as well, until I randomly saw Rafa on Parla's Icon list.
Then went through my checklist
Name: Like it - Check
Kit: Like it - Check
Stadium: 4000 - Check (Bout avg size)
Reputation: Very Low - Check (Only Andorra CF are lower in 2DB)
Thought this club fitted my bill quite well, it is also located on the outskirts of Madrid, and has a rivalry with Getafe (Liga BBVA) = Perfect.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 03:10

Originally Posted by Twellman24

Well, everybody going to Spain is making me want to go there, too...(I'm from there, too)...I guess I'm holidaying in España!

There is a Spanish save in the first post, the day before the reset.

**Twellman24** · 21-10-2011 03:14

Originally Posted by Lower Leagues Rule

There is a Spanish save in the first post, the day before the reset.

You rock! Thanks, you just saved me an hour of waiting!!!

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 03:22

Originally Posted by Lower Leagues Rule

Reputation: Very Low - Check (Only Andorra CF are lower in 2DB)

Where do you check this? Club profile says "Local" or "Obscure" on every club for me. Is there a list-view where you can compare teams?

*edit* Nvm, I found it. That's really handy.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 03:41

Originally Posted by Ohanzee

Where do you check this? Club profile says "Local" or "Obscure" on every club for me. Is there a list-view where you can compare teams?

*edit* Nvm, I found it. That's really handy.

Yeah that list view is awesome, means we don't have to actually use the editor to check the numbers anymore...was one thing I discovered in the Demo.

**Twellman24** · 21-10-2011 03:59

So I wanted to take over Castellón, but seeing as they were predicted 4th after just being promoted, I felt as this was a huge advantage over other players. So...

...well, I don't know if this club will sound familiar to any posters in here, but here we go...

Predicted: 17th
Expectations: Avoid Relegation
Transfer Budget: €10.839
Wage Budget: €935k per season
Current Wages: €679k

After retiring from soccer, Taylor Twellman starts his managing career in Spain, of all places. The New England idol said he wanted to "start from scratch", and that he will "use his knowledge in Spanish to get this small club to success..or at the least, to hanging around the lower leagues for the next 20 to 30 years."

Haro has been a very uneventful club since 1914, but it has the honor to be the oldest club in La Rioja, Navarra.

Very little more to say. A very lengthy squad with five goalkeepers and eight strikers--we'll have to do some cleanup. We do have a good E108k in the bank.

Anyway...here we go! LLR, we'll see were I get with these guys!

T24

**global1** · 21-10-2011 04:18

A Canadian's Journey in Portugal
Ac. Viseu
First Look

Predicted: 6th
Expectations: Top Half Finish

Fortunate, despite an ambitious board, we have a significant amount free under the wage budget, so there will possibly be quite a few signings

Start of Season Expectations
Club Overview
Manager Profile

Hopefully I didn't miss anything, and off to Portugal I go!
Edit: Hopefully will get better at screenshots over time, lol

how do you take pics and post them like this thread????

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 04:19

That's the team I took to 3rd overall in the Liga BBVA last season, best of luck Twellman.

**Twellman24** · 21-10-2011 04:19

LLR, I was obviously kidding. I know you had them for decades

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 04:27

Originally Posted by global1

how do you take pics and post them like this thread????

This is described in the first post...ALT+F9 in FM will save a screenshot to your User folder under screenshots, then you upload them using a site like Imageshack or Photobucket, and post it as a link here using [URL=http://www.etc.com*]"Your text Here"[*/url] removing the *'s from that.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 04:27

Originally Posted by Twellman24

LLR, I was obviously kidding. I know you had them for decades

Shhhh been a long day (4:30pm)

**Almondo** · 21-10-2011 04:30

The Beginning July 2012

Predicted - 16th
Board Epectation - Avoid Relegation
My Expectation - Avoid Relegation
Transfer Budget - £9,140
Wage Budget - £13,042 per week
Current Wages - £4,684 per week

Peña Sport FC of the Spanish Second Division B2 today announced the Appointment of new manager James Almond. Almond who spent his playing career in England is very excited to have this opportunity and has stated his aim for the season as being to avoid relegation.

The Squad doesn't seem too bad but it could do with a bit of strengthening especially at the right back position and maybe another striker.

Peña Sport have had spent all of their time in existence in the lower leagues of Spanish football but I aim to bring them the success they so evidently want and deserve.

**global1** · 21-10-2011 04:30

thanks LLR

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 04:41

Welcome aboard Almondo, good luck with Pena Sport, looks like a good crowd in Spain already.

I have added save games in Italy & as Queens Park in Scotland so far, holidaying in Portugal as I type.

Edit: Added France & Portugal now.

I will get saves for Turkey, Russia & Germany up tomorrow, and hopefully some more for France/Scotland to provide some alternative teams. I am back to Parla now to get going.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 05:38

Casa Pia A.C.
Manager Information | Club Profile

Casa Pia was founded in 1920, but has not been in the top division since 1938 when they were relegated with 2 points in 14 games. However there is some history, as the first match the Portugal national team ever played in 1921 had four Casa Pia players. This included the captain Candido de Oliveira, who played his only ever game for Portugal in the 3-1 loss to Spain. They also had a 1 season spell in the top division back in 1938/39, that being the first season after the Portuguese football reform of 1938.

Not much of a history to be honest, but the main reason I picked this club is that it is based in Lisbon. The idea obviously to one day knock Benfica and Sporting off their throne in the capital city of Portugal. That's pretty much the only reason I picked them actually. After about 50 reloads and not finding any minor fact to interest me in other clubs.

Stadium is well below average (5k), reputation obscure, and the media predicts we'll finish 11th. That's not really saying a lot in terms of reputation though as 15 of 16 teams in this group (Central) are at the same level. Espinho being the only 1 star team. The only teams above 1 star in this division are Boavista and Varzim, and both of them are luckily in the North group. Not that it matters much as we'll have to beat them in a playoff anyways if we by some miracle should manage to win our group.

I've decided to try and avoid relegation, giving me a transfer budget of £0 and wage budget of £3.5k p/w. We have no assistant, physio or scout, so that's my first order of business.

**Biscotti** · 21-10-2011 05:44

Dear god that's a lot of posts gone up in the time I slept....

Anyways, suggestion - Allow for a database edit in order to fix the real names in Portugal >.>

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 05:57

Originally Posted by Biscotti

Dear god that's a lot of posts gone up in the time I slept....

Anyways, suggestion - Allow for a database edit in order to fix the real names in Portugal >.>

I don't have an issue with you correcting the names in Portugal...

**Biscotti** · 21-10-2011 06:01

The only reason I mention it is because it would need a database edit and the OP explicitly states no edits beyond those already disclosed

Just me being a bit of a pedant, so all is good

**global1** · 21-10-2011 06:02

Diyarbakır Büyükşehir Belediye Spor

Diskispor is a Turkish sports club based in Diyarbakır. The football club plays in the TFF Second League. Diskispor is the football club of Diyarbakır Metropolitan Municipality. They take their name from "DISKI".

Try this to see if it works

**global1** · 21-10-2011 06:03

yep will post the rest when i get up

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 06:21

Originally Posted by Biscotti

The only reason I mention it is because it would need a database edit and the OP explicitly states no edits beyond those already disclosed

Just me being a bit of a pedant, so all is good

I suspect you may be able to do it through a DDT file? Not 100% sure, but I also do prefer the real names...

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 06:23

Looks Good Global1, good luck going forward.

**Ohanzee** · 21-10-2011 06:32

Scouting seems a bit different. Signed 2 scouts and both of them came with about 30 reports of players out of the box. Both were automatically assigned to central Europe to. And when I sent one of them to scout Portugal he came back the very next day saying he was done. He had a whole of 2 reports. I like that they come with some knowledge out of the box though, found a couple of decent free transfers right away.

What I do not like one bit is that I'm not allowed to offer pro-contracts at all any more. So no pro-training schedules. Guess we'll have to get promoted at least twice before we can start training our players properly.

**Lower Leagues Rule** · 21-10-2011 06:37

Originally Posted by Ohanzee

Scouting seems a bit different.
What I do not like one bit is that I'm not allowed to offer pro-contracts at all any more..

Like the scouting, it seems to be quite a lot better.
I am torn on the contracts, kinda sucks that there is no full time contracts at Part time clubs, but it may be a bit more realistic as well.

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