Football Manager 2012 Demo *OFFICIAL* Feedback Thread

[veronese]

I've been using it for 10 minutes and I've had enough.

Player profiles are comical. The most important part about them are the attributes and it looks like they've been squeezed in, text everywhere you look. Appearance info for the season removed, replaced with a useless apps/goals section that doesn't even show assists or average ratings, so meaningless if I'm looking at a defenders profile for instance.

Assistant report ruined, not clicking every position to find the best player, what was wrong with the quick and easy report for the formation I've set up to play.

Tactics screen is a horror show. New text is horrid and harder to read.

Sorry but whoever has designed this wants sacking. Those are my thoughts, take it on board or not but I'm not happy with this.

But just 10 minutes!? I need to have a year to get into a new game and I always surprised that the new game is better than the previous. And Im like you in the beginning.

[Hoarau]

I've downloaded the demo and now Steam won't even load up for me!

I'm stuck every time with a black steam box on my desktop saying "Connecting steam account: xxxxxxx" Any help or suggestions?

[X-O-X-Tactics]

More active transfer window sounds great to me!

[chiek tiote is a legend]

mine is suspended whys this???

[tommy1872]

can anyone help just opend my stream to download the demo i click on download and nuffing happines

[SeanNUFC]

Oh Geordie...how good are leeds on it???

haven't checked, got a friendly coming up against them though.

[james3006]

like your mothers cooking, tough!!

[VonBlade]

Christ you lot whine don't you. Yes it's gonna be slow downloading. 2GB doesn't just appear. Steam is merely an install thing no different to any installer. You don't need to leave it running. You sign up to the forums, you can sign up to steam. Nobody is forcing you to leap upon the demo the moment it is announced.
*deep breaths*

Can't wait to see it. I'm gagging for the resolution aware skin

[james3006]

haven't checked, got a friendly coming up against them though.

ya want a wager on it...remember what happened in real life !!

[viiralx]

Christ you lot whine don't you. Yes it's gonna be slow downloading. 2GB doesn't just appear. Steam is merely an install thing no different to any installer. You don't need to leave it running. You sign up to the forums, you can sign up to steam. Nobody is forcing you to leap upon the demo the moment it is announced.
*deep breaths*

Can't wait to see it. I'm gagging for the resolution aware skin

People like to whine when stuff does not work with 1 click.. :\

[CLS]

is there a way to put the demo on a usb once downloaded, or does Shteam Mclaren force me to download it three times over (specially good for people with download limits)?

[Burty76]

The font is great, in fact the User Interface is great generally. Dynamic Searching is so useful! Well done SI :-)

PS So many people on here so quick to moan!

[David Kempshall]

An update. All regions bar Germany, China, Hong Kong, North Korea and South Korea should all be available on Steam now. Apologies for the delay.

[Tommy_Styles]

First impressions:

Positive:
-Looks like there is some really neat info available! Love the previous results graph.
-Team Meeting! First thing I tried, worked pretty well, wonder how it will work long term (and whether it can be exploited)
-Changing colour of stats! Works well, although a bit of a hassle to find something suitable, but once that's dialed down it makes things that much more pleasant.

Negative:
-The email headings on the left side (so I guess it can be called inbox) are too small, really difficult to read, especially with the stark contrast
-Contrast in general, it already starts to hurt my eyes - Just found out there is also a dark skin will try that next.

[Jibby123]

People like to whine when stuff does not work with 1 click.. :\

15 years after I was buying PC games, installing them, playing them with 1 click there's progress to this??

[e-fiend]

On top of that I had to re-download FM11, so in a way I'm just glad I didn't have 166 games in the library...

You don't have to reinstall all your games in your library even if you uninstall steam as it leaves all your game folders intact. They will still be there in your steam folder, Steam/Steamapps/Common/ to be exact Which is nice.

[JojoVillaHursty]

Great game guys (Y)

Have had no problems at the moment but will keep you updated

[Carmi88]

small issue, during a free kick the opposition wall lined up on the wrong side of the free kick taker, and the keeper was positioned behind them, giving my player a clean strike on goal, was the intra squad friendly tho, but still not very good

the game itself looks sexy, feels sexy, and I'm enjoying looking for players to sign

[rodonnell19]

Still not available for me in Ireland just yet unfortunately. Keeping my fingers crossed!

[Davey Boy]

this is what im getting

[Neil Brock]

mine is suspended whys this???

What's suspended? Your Steam account?

[Neil Brock]

Still not available for me in Ireland just yet unfortunately. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Try this - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7132784

[Neil Brock]

this is what im getting

Try this - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7132784

[David Kempshall]

rodonnell19 / Daveyboy. Can you please repost at 18.40 if you're still having issues and I'll investigate?

[Fancy Gaffot]

Can we have some demo impressions, not Steam problem thread?

[Neil Brock]

is there a way to put the demo on a usb once downloaded, or does Shteam Mclaren force me to download it three times over (specially good for people with download limits)?

No, it's linked to your account but I'm afraid for each new system you'll need to re-download.

[james3006]

this is what im getting

Thats just unfortunate, mines on 90%

[Proteus]

I don't know if the suggestion to increase download speeds works, Neil, because I let it run for the first 10% using the London server (I'm in Glasgow) and I was getting 500 kb per second. I then changed it to the Manchester server and it dropped to 250 kb per second, and now that I've changed back to the London server it is refusing to return to the 500 kb per second I was initially getting. Confusing.

Still, it's only going to take an hour or so. I'll crack on with my FM11 game in the meantime.

[Fancy Gaffot]

is there a way to put the demo on a usb once downloaded, or does Shteam Mclaren force me to download it three times over (specially good for people with download limits)?

Yes, copy \Steam\steamapps\common\football manager 2012 demo

[Neil Brock]

I've downloaded the demo and now Steam won't even load up for me!

I'm stuck every time with a black steam box on my desktop saying "Connecting steam account: xxxxxxx" Any help or suggestions?

Try the following as suggested here - https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...7241-EYON-2343

Let me know how you get on, thanks.

[X-O-X-Tactics]

Well done SI. The game looks fantastic so far!

[davidnolan13]

Loving all the player reactions to teamtalks now, this is good.

i agree with this, also liking the ability to give a talk to subs coming on.

[chiek tiote is a legend]

What's suspended? Your Steam account?

it suspended downloading for some reason but is working now,maybe i paused or something by accident...

[Neil Brock]

can anyone help just opend my stream to download the demo i click on download and nuffing happines

Check your 'Library' to make certain it's not downloading in the background. If not, I'd suggest signing out of Steam, signing back in and trying again.

[Rb]

it suspended downloading for some reason but is working now,maybe i paused or something by accident...

Are you playing another game on Steam at the same time?

[Slawbawn]

Initial thoughts? I planned on finishing coursework so I could hand it on Monday.... You have now screwed that up for me and I won't be going to university as I'll forget to do all my college work.

Still downloading mind... So could be jumping the gun a bit.

[davidnolan13]

i like how you can change the search options on the same screen as the player search screen, saves having to screen switch

[rodonnell19]

hey David, it's up here now. Thanks very much! now to sort out a problem with installing steam on my laptop! lol. thanks.

[Davey Boy]

rodonnell19 / Daveyboy. Can you please repost at 18.40 if you're still having issues and I'll investigate?

Will do David

[Braundjoh]

I'm really liking it so far. The new player profile confused me at first, but it's obviously going to be useful to get a good idea of how good a player is with a quick glance. The attributes are smaller, yeah, but are all available on the next page if you can't read it for whatever reason, and the positions picture and all the information on that page will be helpful. The match engine looks decent, nice change of camera angles and I liked the change for the penalties. Never really got a really good sense of how penalties were on the last one, and actually looking forward to a shootout

Once people get used to it I imagine they'll find it more useful. The tactic screen is still easy to use, as is the transfer center. I'm liking it so far

[Chicha_14]

Played a few days and gotta say I'm impressed so far.

[David Kempshall]

One more thing to confirm. The Russian demo will likely follow tomorrow afternoon.

[davidnolan13]

there really need to be a little confirmation thing to say yes i def want to walk away when dealing with contracts, i keep preesing it instead of finalise lol

[tlm_77]

F's sake....

Last 2% and download speed drops to 12kb/s - this sort of thing REALLY puts you off Steam.
Dont care what the cause is, it leaves a bad taste.

[adamstudley]

I have now created TWO steam accounts (using two emails) and am unable to log in on either. There is no support on the website to help either

[SeanNUFC]

ya want a wager on it...remember what happened in real life !!

Won 3-0 if you wanna know. Love the 'hit early crosses' option, got me two quick goals late on.

[Davey Boy]

hey David, it's up here now. Thanks very much! now to sort out a problem with installing steam on my laptop! lol. thanks.

im still not getting anthing

[Viking]

Can't get the demo to start. I get a "Error: Undable to find some essensial data". I have tried to uninstall and reinstall the demo, and the cache thing. I have a Intel i7 and some 12 GB of memory. This is why I don't like Steam.

[matty1294]

Been downloading for an hour and still another hour to go. Great.

[Tommy_Styles]

Love the new goalkeeper animations!

Really still do miss a "Manager camera" though, a fixed camera on the sideline as if watching the game through the manager's eyes.

[englandmanager]

2 friendlies in

leeds 0 motherwell 0
leeds 0 newcastle 0

12 shots on target in 2 games, zero goals, the shooting is ridiculous SI, i'm hoping it's just a coincidence but i haven't seen a single goal yet

[Carl Michael]

Same problem for me.

[David Kempshall]

Davey Boy - what region are you in?

[Indi75]

Not a new Steam account because it recognised my email account.

So I've had to set up a new email account just to satisfy Steam. That can't be acceptable, surely?

Easily fixed by contacting Steam support. No need for new account and thereby shouldn't be a drama for new users when the time comes.

[Tommy_Styles]

Also like the quick sub action when your player gets a knock and the warming up animations! =D

[DandyDon]

Damn my isp and their pesky peak time capping'!!! Have to wait 2 hours for the demo to download....only so much housework I can do you know

[The drummer from Fairuza]

I'm in Ireland and have been downloading since 18:27. 500mb down, 2.1gb to go!

[Davey Boy]

Davey Boy - what region are you in?

Cork, Rep Of Ireland

[Indi75]

F's sake....

Last 2% and download speed drops to 12kb/s - this sort of thing REALLY puts you off Steam.
Dont care what the cause is, it leaves a bad taste.

TBF that happened with the direct downloads last year. It's called demand and has nothing to do with Steam.

That said, Steam downloading at 847Kbps here so I'd be looking at your PC or router.

[SeanNUFC]

I see there's a players to watch thing for each club that keeps coming up. Like it.

[Solarstorm]

I can't get the demo to work. I've downloaded it and when I press play nothing happens. I press play again and it just says it's already running.

[Chriisy]

Am loving it, its so much easier to navigate to where you want to go

[DAK]

just to let yous all know, my girlfriend thinks we most all be really really really boring. and shed rather nail her head to the floor a play this. any messages for her?

[baresi]

common make the demo available for users in germany. this sucks

[Davey Boy]

I'm in Ireland and have been downloading since 18:27. 500mb down, 2.1gb to go!

You lucky git

[And Could He Play]

Anyone know why the demo only fills up around 3/4 of my screen (it's not on windowed mode).

[BungleFish]

ive been downloading for nearly an hour now at roughly 350-400 kb/ps and im only at 66% so id like to kindly request that everyone else stops downloading the demo just so I can get it finished quicker << safety wink
but seriously, i REALLY wanna play, come on already Steam!!!!!

[Davey Boy]

just to let yous all know, my girlfriend thinks we most all be really really really boring. and shed rather nail her head to the floor a play this. any messages for her?

No but you can give her my number

[BenjC]

just to let yous all know, my girlfriend thinks we most all be really really really boring. and shed rather nail her head to the floor a play this. any messages for her?

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9412358&fh_locat ion=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C{9372015}/categories%3C{9372043}/categories%3C{9372176}/categories%3C{9392052}/specificationsProductType=claw_hammers

[grep]

No but you can give her my number

LOL

Just in case of any failure, I have my mobile number ready too.

[scriba]

Nice job, love the new teamtalk, when I saw it on the videoblog, I was not sure about it, but now I've tested it and it's really good !

First friendly : win 5-0 (with Red Star).

[David Kempshall]

No but you can give her my number

I'm being told by users and Steam that it should be available. Have you quit Steam and restarted?

[chob]

wow, it seems great so far but it's really hurting my eyes.

[chiek tiote is a legend]

Are you playing another game on Steam at the same time?

no wasnt even i dont have any other games on steam,its downloading now.alls good

[ScottMac]

wow, it seems great so far but it's really hurting my eyes.

Yh, i have the same problem

[danieladams23]

anyone having trouble posting on facebook

[Davey Boy]

Yes!!!!
im able to download it now...

[englandmanager]

wow, it seems great so far but it's really hurting my eyes.

there's a nice dark skin that's perfect

[The drummer from Fairuza]

You lucky git

You're in Cork.. that explains a lot

[Davey Boy]

I'm being told by users and Steam that it should be available. Have you quit Steam and restarted?

Yes mate, just able to download it now, ta

[Carl Michael]

I can't get the demo to work. I've downloaded it and when I press play nothing happens. I press play again and it just says it's already running.

Exactly the same for me, I've tried deleting the cache and the entire demo but nothing helps...

[The drummer from Fairuza]

just to let yous all know, my girlfriend thinks we most all be really really really boring. and shed rather nail her head to the floor a play this. any messages for her?

We expect to see the youTube video of her nailing her head to the floor by 4pm tomorrow....

[vasilli07]

What happened to the 4-2-3-1 with AML/AMR? All the 4-2-3-1 formation don't have this anymore.

[Ant Farley]

I can't get the demo to work. I've downloaded it and when I press play nothing happens. I press play again and it just says it's already running.

Can you have a look in this thread to see if any of these solutions help:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...d-STEAM-Issues

If not please post a thread in the Technical Issues area of the FM2012 Bugs Forum and one of my colleagues will help you out:

http://community.sigames.com/forumdi...es-and-Crashes

[Davey Boy]

Ouch, kick a guy while he's down eh?

[Davey Boy]

You're in Cork.. that explains a lot

Ouch, kick a guy while he's down eh?

[danieladams23]

it wont let me post on facebook it says no inter connection but there is

[Solarstorm]

Have you tried restarting Steam to see if that helps? What are the specs of the machine you're using please?

Yeah I've restarted steam but it didn't work that time either.
I'm no good at specs and that stuff but it's a 2.13 ghz dual core 2 gb ram with Vista as OS.

[The drummer from Fairuza]

Ouch, kick a guy while he's down eh?

Surely you mean while he's downloading? Enjoy the game!

[kris0710]

Well so far so good. First time using stream, no problems at all.

Now to the game:

The Good Stuff:

Loving team meetings and team talk options
Cant wait to be a Lge 2 or BSP team and using the trial day option
Use the attributes button on team list in helping me pop a couple of u-18 on the bench

Not so good stuff:

No really liking the font and scren, seems very busy and a lot going on although not checked through preferences yet


I really think that given a week or two will forget all about FM11 and the new navigation will be a breeze.

Finally just wondering what impact you would expect from the game speed if you turn off 'player history after retirement' that comes up if you right click players name then go to interaction.

Many thanks SI, as its my birthday tomorrow i feel this demo is my best present lol.

[Ant Farley]

Yeah I've restarted steam but it didn't work that time either.
I'm no good at specs and that stuff but it's a 2.13 ghz dual core 2 gb ram with Vista as OS.

Can you have a look in this thread to see if any of these solutions help:

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...d-STEAM-Issues

If not please post a thread in the Technical Issues area of the FM2012 Bugs Forum and one of my colleagues will help you out:

http://community.sigames.com/forumdi...es-and-Crashes

[SCIAG]

I can't get the demo to work. I've downloaded it and when I press play nothing happens. I press play again and it just says it's already running.

Try terminating the process (ctrl-alt-delete, click on "processes", look for "fm.exe" and press terminate) and then press play again.

[Svenc]

I'm really liking it so far. The new player profile confused me at first, but it's obviously going to be useful to get a good idea of how good a player is with a quick glance.

I dunno, but I find it a bit cluttered so far. That could be my 19" TFT screen (1280x1024 resolution), seeing as how FM is meant to adapt now. Plus the attribute polygon, previously useful to get a quick glance at a player's basic strengths and weaknesses is nowhere to be seen until you click the attributes tag. Speaking about screens that are now bloody PACKED with information (player screen, tactics screen), I hope that the community will still be able to do skins with font sizes a little more friendly (bigger) to the eye. The first thing I always did when trying another skin for FM11 was pasting&copying some lines of config tags from a skin called "tiredeyes", and some used bigger fonts than SI's default skins out of the box as they were.

Thinking about FM's audience, which consists of many people older than me, I'm wondering why there have never been requests for "Tired eye" skins anyway. It's ok, but it can still be tiring, especially when you're spending the entire day at the office as is. Playing FM involves reading and scanning for information and text a lot more than just normal web browsing and most office work anyway. You're not reading lines of text, you're scanning the screen for little numbers and buttons almost non-stop.

[kingjericho]

Steam sucks.

1) FM is the only game I play in my laptop so having to install Steam is ridiculous.
2) It took me almost ten minutes (and I'm not a big noob) to find the button to download the demo.
3) I won't have the cute icon in the games folder because it's installed via Steam...
4) I'd like a game where in order to play I just had to click the icon and the game starts. You know, like all previous FMs until now...

You realize people will still illegally download the game. If your Steam strategy doesn't work the most likely result is you have the same amount of sells as last year but you'll have a lot more disappointed customers. Like me.

And I haven't played the demo yet!

[Carl Michael]

I've done that several times, with the same effect as before. Nothing happens.

[Coffe]

I just have a quick question. If you want to remove an injured player from the pitch, where do you do that? I didn't know how so I had to replace my injured striker with my back-up keeper :P

[Solarstorm]

Try terminating the process (ctrl-alt-delete, click on "processes", look for "fm.exe" and press terminate) and then press play again.

Done that too but again when I press play game nothing happens.

[Krondor]

One more thing to confirm. The Russian demo will likely follow tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks, David!

Downloadable via Steam only?

[BenjC]

Steam sucks.

1) FM is the only game I play in my laptop so having to install Steam is ridiculous.
2) It took me almost ten minutes (and I'm not a big noob) to find the button to download the demo.
3) I won't have the cute icon in the games folder because it's installed via Steam...
4) I'd like a game where in order to play I just had to click the icon and the game starts. You know, like all previous FMs until now...

You realize people will still illegally download the game. If your Steam strategy doesn't work the most likely result is you have the same amount of sells as last year but you'll have a lot more disappointed customers. Like me.

And I haven't played the demo yet!

1 - It has a small footprint, how is having it there a problem?
2 - sorry but how???????
3 - yes it will
4 - That's all you do. My FM11 is installed via steam. I double click the FM11 icon on my desktop and FM11 opens, it's NO DIFFERENT AT ALL.

Seriously, try it before you whinge!

[viiralx]

Steam sucks.

1) FM is the only game I play in my laptop so having to install Steam is ridiculous.
2) It took me almost ten minutes (and I'm not a big noob) to find the button to download the demo.
3) I won't have the cute icon in the games folder because it's installed via Steam...
4) I'd like a game where in order to play I just had to click the icon and the game starts. You know, like all previous FMs until now...

You realize people will still illegally download the game. If your Steam strategy doesn't work the most likely result is you have the same amount of sells as last year but you'll have a lot more disappointed customers. Like me.

And I haven't played the demo yet!

FM10 and FM11 uses steamworks.